6: Everything You Need To Know About Prayer
This episode dives into the transformative power of prayer as the lifeline to one's relationship with Jesus, and practical steps to integrate prayer into daily life. It explores various prayer methods such as contemplative prayer and Ignatian meditation, highlighting the importance of sincerity and consistency in prayer. Practical tips are provided for building a daily prayer life, emphasizing the need to prioritize time with God, establish a routine, and seek guidance from the Holy Spirit. By addressing challenges like distractions and sins, this episode offers encouragement and advice to strengthening one's faith through prayer.
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Hey, I'm your host, Mari Wagner,
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Hey, hey, everybody.
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:Welcome back.
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:I hope your Wednesday is going great, or
maybe you're listening to this first thing
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:in the morning, and I hope that you have
an amazing day today, it's the middle of
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:the week, you're almost at the weekend,
and I hope that this makes your week a
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:little bit sweeter, a little bit better.
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:We are going to talk about prayer today.
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:This is one of my favorite
topics to talk about.
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:It is going to be such
a jam packed episode.
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:I have so many resources
to share with you.
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:I literally have My stack
of books right here.
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:I've got the catechism
of the Catholic church.
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:I have the Holy Bible, obviously.
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:And then I have my notes from my mass
journal from a homily that the priest
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:literally gave this past weekend on
prayer that I was like, wow, this is so
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:Holy Spirit led, um, that the priest is
talking about this because I was already
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:planning on this episode to be on prayer.
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:Um, so that's great.
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:We're really going to get into it.
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:And I hope that you learn so much from it.
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:I think this is a really
important conversation to have.
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:I think there's a lot of
misconceptions around prayer.
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:I think there's a lot of questions
in general around prayer.
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:Like what is prayer?
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:Why is it important?
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:How do I do it?
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:all those kinds of things.
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:We're going to get into all
that today, but the baseline.
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:Like truth that I want us to work off
of today that I want you to know in
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:your heart and walk away like living,
breathing, knowing is that prayer is the
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:lifeline to your relationship with Jesus.
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:Let me say that again.
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:Prayer is the lifeline to
your relationship with Jesus.
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:I didn't know this for a long time.
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:And so when I used to hear, Oh,
I have a relationship with Jesus.
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:Or when I used to get asked, do
you have a relationship with Jesus?
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:I would think, well, yeah, of course.
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:I mean, it's.
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:Like I, I love him.
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:I, I quote unquote know him, although I
didn't really know the person of Jesus.
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:I just knew who he was
kind of like as a figure.
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:, and I came to learn that prayer
is the form of communication.
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:It's the, the route and the vehicle
that allows us to know God, to know
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:who he is and therefore to have
a relationship with him, because
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:relationship is a deep two sided thing.
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:It's not just a one sided thing.
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:I think for so long, I kind of had,
maybe had a one sided relationship
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:with the Lord, which I don't
really even know what side it was.
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:Maybe it was like him loving
me probably, and me not really
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:like putting anything back.
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:Um, but relationship
takes two, it's two sided.
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:So today we're going to get into that.
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:Why prayers are lifeline to Jesus.
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:Why is what's going to help you build
your relationship with the Lord?
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:, so come Holy spirit, please allow
these to be your words that are spoken.
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:Not mine.
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:And I pray that this, uh,
just touches your heart.
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:So let's start off with
the basic question.
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:What is prayer?
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:Okay.
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:That's where we need to start.
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:Um, and first I want to ask
you, what do you think of
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:when you hear the word prayer?
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:Take a second to think about that.
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:I just want you to think kind of
like first instinct, first thoughts.
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:What do you think of when
you hear the word prayer?
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:Because I know for the longest time
when I heard that I jumped to what
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:I now know is called rote prayers.
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:Um, the basically these
like beautiful, like.
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:Pre written prayers that the church
has given us that have been passed
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:down for generations and, you know,
through the whole tradition of the
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:church, or given to us by Jesus
himself, like the, our father, right?
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:That is a written prayer that we memorize
that we can just pray that we can take
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:out of our little, like, you know,
pocket when we need it, a rote prayer
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:that is like pre written for us, , words
that are given to us to pray to the
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:father or to ask him or to praise him,
whatever it is, that is a rote prayer.
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:Versus something like free form prayer.
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:That's a different kind of prayer.
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:But when I used to hear the word
prayer, I kind of always jumped
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:to those prewritten prayers, those
rote prayers, the hail Mary, the our
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:father glory be maybe the rosary.
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:, but free form prayer is the Also
prayer and free form prayer.
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:There's a lot of different
ways to describe it.
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:We're going to get into it.
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:But right now I just want to
call it like free form prayer.
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:Cause I think it's the easiest way
to understand what that is when you
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:compare it to kind of like a pre written
prayer or like a prayer that's been,
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:you know, passed down in the tradition
of the church, like the rosary.
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:Like I said, , free form prayer
is mental prayer from the heart.
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:It's really what it sounds like.
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:It's freedom in how you pray in what you
pray and how you communicate to the Lord.
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:There is no right or wrong
way to speak to the Lord.
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:And it's just a speaking from the heart.
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:St.
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:Therese of Lisieux, I know you love
her because who doesn't, right?
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:There's a quote by her that
I love that says, for me,
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:prayer is a surge of the heart.
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:It is a simple look towards heaven.
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:It is a cry of recognition and
love embracing both trial and joy.
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:St.
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:Therese bless you.
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:And what I love most about this quote
is the beginning where it says, for
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:me, prayer is a surge of the heart.
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:And if we look in our
catechism, let me get that up.
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:Um, the catechism of the Catholic
church is the big book of everything.
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:It's the big book that breaks
down all of the teachings of the
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:church, the traditions of the
church, why we do what we do.
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:, so it's a great resource
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:So we are going to open up to
the catechism, paragraph, , 2
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:And I'm just going to read this.
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:So the title says prayer as a covenant.
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:Um, so this whole section of the
catechism is, is huge on prayer.
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:So just highly recommend starting there in
general, but we're going to start at this,
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:this paragraph prayer as a covenant.
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:, it says, where does prayer come from?
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:Whether prayer is expressed in words
or gestures, is the whole man who
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:but in naming the source of prayer.
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:Scripture speaks sometimes of the
soul or the spirit, but most often of
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:the heart more than a thousand times.
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:According to scripture, it
is the heart that praise.
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:If our heart is far from God,
the words of prayer are in vain.
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:So it is the heart that praise.
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:And we see that in scripture and
it is said over a thousand times.
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:And like this said, like sometimes the
soul is mentioned or the spirit, but
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:in the end prayer is from the heart.
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:Prayer is a conversation with God from
our heart So I just want to start with
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:that first because I know that when
we hear the word prayer or you know
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:Prayer routine or whatever it can sound
really intimidating It could sound like
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:there's a right way or a wrong way to
do it And I'm glad that you're here
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:and you are gonna learn a lot from this
episode There's definitely something to
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:learn and to take away but I do I want
you to walk away knowing essentially,
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:like I said, prayer is your lifeline to
your relationship with Jesus and prayer
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:is nothing but a surge of your heart.
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:It's nothing but a
conversation from the heart.
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:I want you to walk away knowing
that prayer is your lifeline in
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:your relationship with Jesus.
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:And that prayer is nothing but a surge
of the heart, a movement of the heart,
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:a conversation from your heart with God.
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:Essentially, it's just a conversation
with our father in heaven, right?
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:Our creator.
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:And it's a vehicle, a gift that really,
that he's given us to be able to connect
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:with him, to know him, to speak to him.
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:And a lot of the times to hear him as
well, maybe not physically like audibly,
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:but to hear him in our hearts and to hear
him speak to us and speak into our lives.
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:And again, in the catechism, it literally
says prayer is the living relationship
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:of the children of God with their father.
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:Okay.
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:We need to understand this to understand
something about prayer that we are
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:children of the father, God the father.
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:Is our father, our heavenly
father, and we are his children.
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:So
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:if you've never heard this before, you
know, let me be the first to tell you
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:like, this is your truest identity.
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:You are a son or daughter of God.
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:It is said in scripture a million times.
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:The Lord said it himself.
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:Um, let's look at scripture really quick.
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:So open your Bibles up to first John.
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:, three verse one.
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:Okay.
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:It says, see what love the father
has bestowed upon us that we may
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:be called the children of God.
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:Yet.
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:So we are.
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:That was in this past Sunday's reading.
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:, I believe it was the second
reading and I love, love that verse
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:Because it doesn't just state that we are
children of God, but it also says that it
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:comes from a love of the father, right?
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:It says, see what love the father has for
us, the love that he's bestowed upon us.
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:That we may be called
children, children of God yet.
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:So we are, , and the priest in his homily
this past Sunday at mass brought this
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:verse up in his homily about prayer and
asked this question, what impact does that
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:fact, does that truth have on our life?
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:Okay.
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:So we are children of God.
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:We are sons and daughters of God.
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:What is the impact that
that truth has on our life?
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:Why does that even matter
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:And friends, it matters because
this is our deepest and truest
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:identity without prayer.
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:We cannot connect with he who created us.
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:He who our identity is rooted in
our father in heaven without prayer.
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:We are dead.
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:We can't connect with the source
of our life because prayer, like
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:I said, is our communion with God.
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:In John 15, Jesus says, you can
do nothing apart from me, right?
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:And so who are we to think that we can
do our life, that we can do everything
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:he's called us to do apart from him.
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:Sure.
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:The Lord is with us.
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:He never abandons us, but prayer is
this avenue that we can be in union with
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:him and invite him in an intentional,
deep, intimate way into our life so
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:that he can speak life, breathe life,
give us grace so that we can fulfill
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:this life that he has called us to live.
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:Okay, so I hope that we have
established some, some really good
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:basic principles as to like why prayer
is important, and what prayer is?
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:So let's talk a little bit about the
importance of a daily routine because
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:it is beautiful to say prayers from the
heart, you know, when you feel prompted
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:to do so, But I would say that it's
more important to build a consistent
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:daily routine, even if you don't feel
like praying, or even if prayer isn't
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:coming easy to you, it's more important
to build that daily routine and to
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:make time for Jesus every single day
than to just pray when you feel like it.
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:Because otherwise you can't really get to
know God and I always use this analogy.
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:I call it the best friend analogy
Okay, so think of your best friend
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:and think of how you got to the place
that you are in your relationship with
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:them How did you get to know them?
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:So well, how did you get so close?
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:How did you get to trust them?
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:You probably spent a lot
of time with them them.
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:You probably shared some really
deep moments together or celebrated
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:some big wins in your life or,, went
through difficult times whatever it
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:was, you shared life with this person
and you shared enough life with this
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:person that they became significant
to you and you developed a deep
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:personal relationship with them.
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:And like I said, this all happened
through time that was spent and things
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:that were shared between you guys,
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:things from your heart and
your life, , et cetera.
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:And so just like you needed to spend a
lot of time with this person to develop
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:a relationship, the same goes for Jesus.
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:You need to put that same kind
of time and energy and commitment
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:into your relationship with Jesus,
because he is a real person.
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:You can't have a real like living
relationship with him, but without
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:the time, without the commitment,
without, The time invested in him,
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:you're not going to get there.
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:And the reason I say this is because
I hear this a lot from women, , you
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:know, who say like, Mari, I do pray.
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:I do spend time in prayer.
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:I listen to worship music when I'm driving
to work or, I say a little prayer on
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:my way to class in the morning or, , my
prayer right now is doing the dishes.
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:Like that's how I'm praying
and don't get me wrong.
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:These are all good and beautiful things.
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:And I hope that if you do this,
that you continue to do this.
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:It is prayer, but it isn't
the true substance of prayer.
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:That's going to really deepen and, and
develop your relationship with Jesus.
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:Because if we go back to this best
friend analogy, if the only time that
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:you spent with this friend was in the
car while you're playing music, on your
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:way to work and all the time you spent
with them in the car was, you know,
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:kind of trying to talk over the music
or talking between songs, you wouldn't
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:really get a lot in there and your
relationship wouldn't really deepen.
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:Right.
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:Or if the only time you
spent with them was.
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:Walking to class, and you might have
some of these friends, some of these
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:friends that like, you're in class and
the only real connection that you have
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:is, having this class together and
walking to and from this class together.
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:, but you don't really go deep with
them in that time that's allotted
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:walking from building to building.
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:So if you look at that in your
relationship with Jesus, if the only
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:time you spend with Jesus is in those
short increments of time where you're
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:either distracted or multitasking,
you're doing something else, um, it's
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:a beautiful way to, you know, bring
Jesus into your everyday life, but
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:still he deserves all of your attention.
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:He deserves undivided attention
and times to decide for you
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:to know him and love him.
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:And this kind of brings me to
the very first commandment.
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:You shall have no other gods before me.
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:Now that wording is particular
and just hearing that we might
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:not think, , that we are outwardly
worshiping other gods, right?
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:It says, you shall not have
any other gods before me.
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:Essentially you shall not worship
anyone else, any other God or thing
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:or being other than me, the Lord.
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:And we might think that we don't have
other gods and that we don't worship
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:other things except for God himself.
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:In the way that we think, I will challenge
you to think about this and reflect
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:about this in your life because there's
been moments in my life where I have
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:realized, oh crap, I do have other idols.
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:Oh shoot.
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:I might actually find other things
more important, might, you know,
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:underlyingly be worshiping other things
more than the Lord or over the Lord.
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:And ultimately we can see that
when we look at what do we love?
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:And usually what we love, is what
we spend time on, what we deem
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:to be important in our lives.
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:That's worthy of our time and attention.
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:And if we only give our time to,
maybe work our careers, social
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:media, friends, family, our kids, our
spouse, our schoolwork our home, our
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:investments, whatever it is, um, those
all aren't inherently bad things.
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:A lot of them are really good things, but
if we only give our time there, then where
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:does God stand against all those things?
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:Where does God stand in the
midst of those priorities?
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:If the first thing we do when we get out
of bed is roll over and start scrolling,
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:where does God stand next to Instagram?
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:Or maybe we're drowning in work and it's
a busy season maybe you're traveling
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:a lot, maybe you're have a list full
of to do's that you know that you
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:need to get to all the time and that's
all you feel like you have time for.
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:So where does God stand in
the midst of all those things?
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:He has provided for us a job, a home, a
family, the means to travel, to be busy.
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:The health to be able to do
these things with our bodies
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:to not have any other gods Above
God is to love God above all
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:things It's to place God as number
one on our list of priorities
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:And to love God above all things to
make him the very first priority in
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:our lives is to give him our first and
last moments of the day at the very
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:least, at the very least you guys.
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:Minimum, we should be giving him our
first and last moments of the day.
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:When we first open our eyes, maybe
a quick, , prayer of gratitude.
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:And before we close our eyes and go to
bed, a prayer of Thanksgiving, a praise
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:of intercession for our lives or for the
people in our lives, at the very least,
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:you know, and some of this might
be kind of a humility check for us.
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:I know that it has been for me many times
before to kind of look at my life and
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:realize like, wow, there are a lot of
other things in my life that I actually
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:am placing above the Lord that are
actually taking priority above the Lord.
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:And it may not sit right in my
heart when I say that you may
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:feel like, no, but I do love God.
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:And I get that.
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:I bet you that you do.
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:So many times I felt the same thing.
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:And yet I say, but I don't
have time for him right now.
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:I love him, but I don't have time.
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:I love him, but this work is so important.
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:I love him, but I have so many things
on my calendar that I have to get to.
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:I can't, don't really have time for mass
or time for prayer or whatever it is.
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:And so it takes a moment of humility
for us to recognize that first of all.
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:And actually, if we go back to
the catechism, it says humility
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:is a foundation of prayer.
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:We're opening up the catechism again.
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:Okay.
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:And we're going to paragraph
two, five, five, nine.
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:It's called prayer as God's gift.
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:And it says prayer is the raising of
one's mind and heart to God, or the
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:requesting of good things from God.
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:That's a really simple way to put prayer.
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:But when we pray, do we speak from
the height of our pride and our
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:will, or out of the depths of a
humble and contrite heart, he who
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:humbles himself will be exalted.
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:Humility is the foundation of prayer.
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:Only when we humbly acknowledge
that we do not know how to pray
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:as we ought, are we ready to
receive freely the gift of prayer.
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:Man is a beggar before God.
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:Wow.
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:That is so good.
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:Humility is the foundation of prayer.
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:That just brings me back to
John at 15, five apart from me.
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:You can do nothing.
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:Think believe the lie that the evil
one tells us all the time that we don't
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:need God, especially in our world today.
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:We're so obsessed with.
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:productivity and success and making
it and whatever it is that we're
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:doing, that we feel like we can do
everything ourselves, that all of
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:our success, all of our goodness, all
of our good fortune comes from us.
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:And this is just a reminder.
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:Man is a beggar before God.
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:Humility is a foundation of prayer.
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:We need Lord.
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:We can't do anything apart from the Lord.
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:And prayer is this vehicle for us to
beg him to, to give us his grace, his
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:mercy, his blessings upon our life.
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:And so when we approach prayer, we want
to come to him with a humble heart,
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:with a contrite heart, and an open
heart to receive whatever he has for us.
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:Okay, so I hope that establishes,
, again, a little bit of context
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:as to why a prayer is important.
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:, why taking the time to speak to
him daily is important to allow
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:silence and space for him to be
a character in our lives, right?
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:To allow him to have authority and say
in our lives, or to just comfort us and
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:bring us love and peace and understanding.
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:And to just be with him, to be
with our father, to be with our
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:creator, whom is love himself, to
experience love and peace himself.
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:He wants all of it.
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:You guys, he wants to be
with you in all of it.
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:And so before we get into the
practicals of how to pray, I want
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:to say this, I want to say that
you don't have to come to the Lord.
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:, in a polished way, you don't have
to have the most beautiful, most
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:perfect words to say when you come
to him in prayer, you just have to
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:be yourself and it can be messy.
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:It can be raw.
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:It can be confusing.
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:You can be honest.
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:He wants all of you.
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:He wants to be so intimately invested
in your life as your father, because
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:you are his child and he loves you and
that's it because he loves you because
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:he loves you because he loves you.
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:That's the only reason he wants to
be so intimately a part of your life.
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:The reason he leaves the 99
for the one for you, right?
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:It's just because he loves you.
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:So how do we pray?
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:How do we receive this love from God?
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:How do we give him our love?
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:It's important to recognize that
prayer in itself is a response to God.
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:Okay.
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:So like we just said, The Lord wants
to be a part of your life and it is
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:he who initiates the conversation.
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:Now, this doesn't mean that you have to
wait to hear God's voice to begin to pray.
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:No, him by his very being, love itself.
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:And through that love
created you, he loves you.
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:And he is always reaching for you
and taking that step towards you.
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:inviting you and asking
you to draw near to him.
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:I can't seem to put this catechism down.
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:Okay.
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:So I'm going to read one
more paragraph from here.
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:That is so, so, so good.
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:Paragraph two, five, six, seven.
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:God calls man first man may forget his
creator or hide far from his face.
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:He may run after idols or accuse
the deity of having abandoned
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:him Yet, the living and true God
tirelessly calls each person to that
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:mysterious encounter known as prayer.
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:In prayer, the faithful God's
initiative of love always comes first.
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:Our own first step is always a response.
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:Okay?
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:So prayer is a response to his initial
step towards us, his initial love for us.
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:As God gradually reveals himself
and reveals man to himself.
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:Prayer appears as a reciprocal call, a
covenant drama through words and actions.
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:This drama engages the heart.
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:It unfolds throughout the
whole history of salvation.
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:Mm.
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:There's so much to unpack here.
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:So much to unpack here.
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:Okay.
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:What can we take from this?
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:God calls man first.
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:. Again, we just talked about this, but I
think it's so important to remember this.
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:You are not abandoned by the Lord.
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:If you feel like you are alone,
if you feel like the Lord has
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:never reached out to you, doesn't
love you, doesn't know you.
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:I'm here to tell you that that's not true.
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:He knows you.
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:He knows every fiber of your being.
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:We see this in the good shepherd, right?
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:He leaves the 99 to go after
the one God calls man first.
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:He goes after you.
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:He calls you to him and waits and
invites you to respond because he
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:desires a personal relationship with us.
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:He's not a distant figure that
doesn't want anything to do with you.
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:He wants to meet you in a personal
and intimate way and walk with
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:you intimately in your life.
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:And so through prayer.
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:God reveals himself.
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:We saw that in this last paragraph,
God reveals himself through prayer and
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:this living relationship with God, we
can learn about him, about who he is
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:and who he wants to be in our lives.
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:And furthermore, God reveals
man to himself through prayer.
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:God being our creator and knowing us
more than we know ourselves, knowing our
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:humanity more than we know it ourselves.
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:He reveals our own selves to us.
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:He reveals to us who we truly
are, who we are made in his image
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:and what our truest identity is.
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:And you guys, we can find all
of those answers through prayer.
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:This is the craziest thing.
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:Like prayer isn't just this like
boring thing that you just like repeat
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:out of a book and you know, be done.
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:It's this living, breathing relationship.
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:Okay.
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:Okay.
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:Now we're really, really, really
going to get into how to pray.
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:I want to talk about the
different types of prayer.
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:Because there's a lot of them.
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:Like I said, there's no
right or wrong way to pray.
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:There's a lot of types of prayer.
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:And I love the church, the Catholic
church, especially because she gives us
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:so many different options and teaches
us so many different avenues to pray.
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:And it's great because
we're all different people.
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:We all have different personalities,
different temperaments, different ways
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:that we can each connect with God.
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:And so you're not limited to just one.
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:Okay.
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:There's contemplative prayer, Ignatian
prayer, scripture study, lexio divina,
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:prayer journaling, meditative prayer,
like all these different types of prayers.
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:So we're going to get into contemplative
prayer first because I think this one can
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:kind of carry us through the other ones.
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:And if you've never prayed anything,
but like a Hail Mary or Our Father,
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:this is definitely the place to start.
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:So St.
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:Teresa of Avila, she is a
doctor of prayer in the church.
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:And she says that contemplative
prayer is nothing but a close
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:sharing between friends.
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:It means taking time frequently
to be alone with him who loves us.
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:I also call this mental prayer.
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:You hear this a lot, you know,
contemplative prayer, mental prayer.
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:I think it's like kind
of used interchangeably.
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:But really it's nothing else than
just sharing what's on your heart,
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:you know, plainly, simply in your
own words, what is on your heart?
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:What are you feeling?
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:What are you asking of the Lord?
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:And the important thing is not to think
much about it, not to overthink how
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:you're saying things or what you're
saying, but just to do it out of love
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:and just to offer it all to the Lord.
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:I was listening to Sadie
Robertson's podcast the other day.
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:And the guest that she was interviewing
was talking about how somebody
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:said something about prayer to her
in college that stuck with her.
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:And I think that it's really good advice.
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:She was told that, Good prayer
is like unfiltered prayer.
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:Like you don't have a prayer voice.
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:You don't have like a, nice
polished way of coming to the Lord.
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:It's just using your real voice, your
real thoughts, your real feelings
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:in an unfiltered way, obviously with
respect, but like just coming to the
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:Lord as you are not worrying about
how you're wording things, but just
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:saying it and just coming to the Lord
as you are, as honestly as you can.
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:And so contemplative prayer or mental
prayer, can be you sitting down, in
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:a chair, in a pew, and just sitting
there looking at the Lord and being
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:like, Hey Lord, It's me, you know,
um, I don't really know you very well,
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:uh, but I'd like to, or maybe you're
like, Hey Lord, um, it's been a long
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:time, you know, but I'm finally here
and, and this is what's on my heart
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:and this is what I'm struggling with.
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:And can you help me, can you show
me the way, you know, that that's
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:just an example of what you can say.
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:It doesn't have to be fancy or anything.
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:Contemplative prayer can also be silent in
a way, like you don't have to use words.
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:It can be as simple as.
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:allowing your gaze to be fixed
on Jesus, to contemplate his love
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:for you his mercy, his face, his
heart, whatever you're drawn to.
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:It's time spent in silence, allowing
the Lord to clear your mind of
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:distractions and open your heart to him.
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:Okay.
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:So now we're going to get
into Ignatian meditation.
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:It is one of my favorite types of prayer.
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:Essentially it's a, is
purely imaginative prayer.
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:Where you visualize your
prayer instead of speaking it.
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:The style of prayer was taught by St.
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:Ignatius, St.
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:Ignatius of Loyola, and he uses
it in his spiritual exercises.
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:Basically you can create a
scene out of nothing, right?
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:Just using your imagination,
painting a picture of, maybe it's
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:from scripture or maybe it's just
your own scene that you paint.
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:In time of prayer with the Lord.
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:There's really no right
or wrong way again.
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:It's all led by the Holy Spirit.
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:You just ask the Holy Spirit, come
Holy Spirit, enter into this prayer.
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:Help me to see what the Lord
wants me to see right now.
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:And the reason I love this prayer
so much is because in my experience,
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:it has brought the person of
Jesus to life in a whole new way
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:in my life and in my prayer life.
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:Because I can engage my imagination,
along with the truth of what I know of
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:who he is and what he says about me to
imagine what he's speaking to me, what he
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:would say to me in a time in a time of
suffering or a time of need, how he would
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:bring me comfort, , how he would bring me
peace where it allows me to bring a scene
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:of the Bible to life, to be engaged with
it more and learn more about what Jesus
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:was trying to communicate through it.
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:You know, scripture is a really,
really beautiful tool that we can use.
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:And so now I want to get into
Lectio Divina, which is essentially,
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:you know, scripture study.
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:I think a lot of the times we don't know
we're praying Lectio when we're reading
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:scripture, but it's, it's just a fancy
way of saying reflecting on scripture.
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:Lectio Divina essentially is when you
read a piece of scripture multiple times,
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:you allow the Lord to show you what
he wants to speak to you through it.
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:Maybe you have a verse or a word that's
really standing out to you from that
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:passage that you're praying with.
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:You meditate on it.
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:You let it simmer.
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:You ask the Lord, what
does this mean in my life?
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:How can I apply this to my life?
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:, maybe you use a little bit of
Ignatian and you imagine the
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:scene that you're praying with.
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:It's all based off of scripture, but
basically it's just diving into scripture
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:into really a reflective way and applying
it seeing how the Lord is speaking
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:to us and applying it to our lives.
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:And I would say if you have a hard
time with either like mental prayer,
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:contemplative prayer, or imaginative
prayer, , this is a really good place
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:to start because it's a little bit more
structured because you're using a passage
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:from the Bible to really dive into it
and have it be kind of like a platform
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:that kind of kickstarts your prayer.
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:And I think another thing that helps if
you feel a little bit like this is really
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:new to me, I'm kind of uncomfortable,
I don't really know what to do in my
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:prayer, or like I'm trying, but I don't
know what to say, is prayer journaling.
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:Journaling your prayer is something
that we can all do because at
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:one point or another, we all
have journaled before, okay?
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:Whether it was an assignment in school,
we've all like, written accounts
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:of our life and know how to process
or kind of know where to start with
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:writing down like how we're doing
or what's going on in our life.
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:So prayer journaling is a great way, how
I like to say it, , to kind of like loosen
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:your tongue and learn this new language
of prayer and help open the door to the
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:freedom that you can have in prayer.
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:And to show you that,
like, you don't have to.
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:Be a specific person or say
things in a specific way.
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:You can just journal your prayer as
you would journal any journal entry,
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:but just dedicate it to the Lord
and speak to the Lord through it.
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:You know, dear Jesus,
here's how my heart is.
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:Here's where I'm at.
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:This is what happened today.
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:What do you think about this?
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:What are you asking me to
do in this place in my life?
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:You know, things like that.
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:And the more that you do that, the more
you'll be comfortable with With speaking
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:to the Lord and the more casual your words
will be and the more real and more honest
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:your conversations can be with the Lord.
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:Another resource you can use if you are
looking for a more guided prayer guide,
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:would be a Bible study that I wrote.
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:It's called the heart of Christ and
it's basically a short Bible study
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:to help, you know, the compassionate,
merciful, all loving heart of Christ.
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:You can find it at westcoastcatholic.
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:co.
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:, and essentially I created it to help
you come to know the compassionate,
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:merciful, all loving heart of Jesus.
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:And it walks you through accounts of St.
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:Margaret Mary Aliquo as well as
scripture passages and personal
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:reflections that I've written.
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:Um, I hope basically is that you'll come
to see that Jesus's heart yearns for you,
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:loves you and is always reaching for you.
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:Okay.
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:That was a lot.
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:That was a lot of different ways to pray.
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:I hope that that was helpful
and know that you can do this
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:in your home or in a church.
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:I highly, highly recommend that
you go to Eucharistic adoration.
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:This is a gift in our Catholic
church and our Catholic faith.
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:Eucharistic adoration is
basically the exposition of
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:Jesus and the blessed sacrament
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:and the host.
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:So like the communion that we
receive at mass, it is exposed
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:in what's called a monstrance.
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:And you can go and spend
time with him in the chapel.
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:In front of him in prayer, as
Catholics, you believe that the
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:Eucharist is the true body and blood
of Christ, the true presence of Christ.
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:And so to have the true presence of
Christ exposed at your church or in the
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:chapel, and to have the gift to be able
to go and just spend time in front of
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:him and pray with him and be with him and
gaze at him and give him your life and
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:everything is so, so, so transformational.
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:So let's now move into what I think
is one of our biggest obstacles to
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:prayer, something that I hear all the
time that I experience all the time.
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:and it's basically how to make time
for prayer in the midst of a busy life.
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:How do I build a daily routine in
the midst of a crazy, busy life?
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:The reality is we're all busy.
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:You guys, I know that you think
you're the busiest person.
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:I think I'm the busiest
person, but we're not.
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:There is always, always way
to incorporate prayer into our
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:lives and to make time for God.
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:As St.
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:Mother Teresa once said, she said, if you
are too busy to pray, you are too busy.
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:Period.
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:I remember hearing this story about
her and the missionaries of charity
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:and how the missionaries of charity.
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:All with good intention, right?
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:These are really holy, beautiful
sisters would go to mother Teresa
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:and tell her mother, there's
so much need in our community.
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:We need to maybe shorten our prayer
time so that we can go out and help
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:more and to serve the poor more.
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:And mother Teresa said, Oh, Okay.
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:If you feel this way, it seems like we
need to add a second holy hour to our day.
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:And so she added not just one, but now
had two hours dedicated to praying in
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:front of Jesus in the Eucharist to the
missionaries of charities schedule.
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:Because in the end, prayer
is what's most important.
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:Prayers are lifeline to Jesus.
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:And if we like we are too busy to
pray, then we are just too busy period.
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:and there's priorities in our
life that need to be rearranged.
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:Like I said earlier, the priest that
gave the homily at mass this past
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:Sunday was talking about prayer.
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:And one of the things he said
that stuck with me is we have to
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:stop thinking about ourselves as
CEOs of fortune 500 companies.
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:Okay.
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:And even if you are a CEO of a fortune 500
company, it's not like this advice doesn't
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:apply to you because the Lord is still the
Lord and you are still his son or daughter
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:and prayer is still just as powerful
in your life as it is to anybody else.
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:But basically what he was trying to say
is that you think that you don't have
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:time, but you do, and you at least have
the time for the things that you like
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:and the things that you find important.
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:And so the question really is,
What am I dedicating time to?
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:And do I dedicate the
time to prayer or not?
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:Do I make that a priority?
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:And if you just look at your schedule
and just look at your life and you
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:look at what are the things that
I spend the most time on, that'll
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:reveal to you, what do you love?
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:What do you worship?
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:What do you find important?
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:And if God isn't on the top
priority of that list, you guys.
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:Or on that list at all, then like
mother Teresa said, you are too busy
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:and things need to be rearranged.
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:Something needs to change.
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:And I just want to say, I'm
talking to myself here too.
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:I have gone through so many seasons of
life where I have had a humility check,
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:a reality check where I feel like I
need to look at my life and rearrange
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:my priorities and realize that like
I am putting things above the Lord.
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:And.
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:I want to say that I love the Lord above
all things, but if I'm never making time
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:for him, then that statement is empty.
669
:And so know that I'm talking
to myself here as well.
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:And this applies really to all of us.
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:So check yourself, but also give yourself
grace to start again, to start small
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:because we all need to start somewhere.
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:And maybe you were in a place
where you had a really good prayer
674
:life and you're coming back.
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:Give yourself grace, you know, and,
and start small and build that back up.
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:My most practical.
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:tips that I have for you.
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:The most practical advice that I
have to build a successful daily
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:prayer life is number one to do
it first thing in the morning.
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:Start your day with prayer.
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:I know for myself, I also feel like I'm
super busy and I know that if I don't
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:pray first thing in the morning, then
I'm probably not going to pray at all.
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:Even if I tell myself like, Oh, I'll just
go to the chapel later or, Oh, I'll pray
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:before bed or, you know, I'll take time,
you know, maybe in the middle of the day
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:to, to rest and pray and be with the Lord.
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:It just.
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:It just doesn't happen.
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:The day goes by so quick.
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:And if I don't pray first thing in
the morning, I don't pray at all.
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:And really for my morning prayer
time to be successful, I have had to
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:create kind of like a, like a prayer
corner in my room or kind of like a
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:ritual, kind of like a routine that
kind of tells my body, my mind, my
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:soul, like, okay, we are settling in.
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:We are being with the Lord, you
know, create a environment and a
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:spirit of silence to be able to
allow the into that moment of prayer.
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:So you can do this by, you know, maybe
lighting a prayer candle at home, putting
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:up a crucifix, or, um, I like to do
like a little gallery wall of different,
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:Catholic images or saints, or, you know,
statues of Mary or images of Jesus,
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:um, different prayers, stuff like that,
that will inspire my prayer and guide my
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:prayer and kind of direct my attention
towards the Lord and towards heaven.
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:Now you can pray at home or
you can pray in a church.
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:And if you feel like praying at home is
really hard for you, like it's really
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:distracting or maybe you have roommates
or maybe you don't really have a space
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:that you could create a quiet prayer
corner, then I really, really recommend
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:that you go to the church or a chapel.
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:Most Catholic churches should be open.
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:Almost all day.
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:A lot of them do offer
Eucharistic adoration.
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:Check with your parish and see
what schedule you have and see if,
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:adoration is offered at any time.
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:, and I highly recommend that you go there
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:because church is the house of God.
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:Church is a space of prayer already
in itself . a place of worship.
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:So it allows us to physically
put in ourselves in a space
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:that's going to direct our mind,
our heart and our soul to God.
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:My last piece of advice is to habit stack.
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:This is something that I did
to kind of get into a routine
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:of praying the rosary daily.
719
:If that's a prayer that you want
to incorporate into your life.
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:And basically as you pick a habit or
a routine that you already have in
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:your life daily that you do pretty
much every day, or as often as you
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:want to introduce this new habit,
and then you stack this new habit.
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:onto that habit.
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:So you piggyback it on so that
whenever you do the habit that you
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:normally do, you're now adding the
new habit and it becomes a new habit.
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:Essentially.
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:Part of your routine.
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:So an example of this is I wanted
to pray the rosary every day.
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:And so when I was missionary, I would
drive to work and my drive to work
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:would be about 15 to 16 minutes a day.
731
:And that was something that
I was doing every single day.
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:And so I got into the habit of getting
in my car and And putting the rosary on,
733
:I use the hallow app to pray the rosary.
734
:They have different times, like
links that you can pray the rosary.
735
:And so I would set like, I think
like the 16 minute one or something,
736
:and then I would pray the rosary
while I drove to work every day.
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:And that just became a daily habit.
738
:You can do this with other things.
739
:You can do this while you're getting
ready in the morning, doing your makeup
740
:or while you're making breakfast or,
maybe if you already have a cup of
741
:coffee in the morning, you can stack
that with some scripture reading
742
:things that you already do in your day.
743
:You can just add a new prayer
habit that you want to incorporate
744
:into your life on top of that.
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:Woo.
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:Okay.
747
:This is so good.
748
:You guys, we are really getting into it.
749
:I also just feel like
we could go on and on.
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:I know that this is going to be a
little bit of a lengthy podcast,
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:but it's going to be a good one.
752
:And at this point I feel like
we need to start splitting
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:it into different sections.
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:I feel like we've covered
a lot of really good stuff,
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:but there's always more that
we could go into, right?
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:So before we close out, I do want
to address some questions that
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:came in on Instagram just a few
days ago when I asked you, what are
758
:your biggest struggles in prayer?
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:Or what are your biggest
questions about prayer?
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:So I want to answer these questions right
here, right now on the show, because
761
:these are the real questions and struggles
that you feel like you have right now.
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:So I'm going to pull them up.
763
:And if you want to put your input
in on future episodes, input future
764
:questions, make sure that you're following
along on the Instagrams at ever be
765
:podcast or at Mari dot C dot Wagner.
766
:This is where I'm going to be asking
for feedback and you are able to input
767
:and tell me what you want to hear or
your questions that I'll be addressing
768
:on the podcast here and there.
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:Okay.
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:Question one, how to pray
politely as to not offend God,
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:rambling thoughts everywhere.
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:I get distracted easily.
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:This is a good one.
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:I think this is something
that a lot of people fear.
775
:And we did touch on it a little bit
earlier in the episode of the way
776
:that you word things or what you're
saying, or this fear of like not coming
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:off in a polished way to the Lord is
something that a lot of us struggle with.
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:So pretty much, Don't worry
about not praying politely, or
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:not saying things the right way.
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:Obviously give the Lord the due
respect that he deserves, but
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:don't worry about being perfect.
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:Um, don't worry about not being able to
even be mad at the Lord or be angry or
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:bring him your, your anger and your hurt.
784
:You know, there's times when, you
know, I go to the Lord and I, and I
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:bring him all ugly stuff and that's
okay because the Lord isn't just.
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:there for you in good.
787
:He's there for you in
the thick of all of it.
788
:So you don't have to worry about
being perfect in front of the Lord.
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:rambling thoughts are okay.
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:If you get distracted easily, try and
take those thoughts that are distracting
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:you and write it down on a notebook.
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:You know, maybe while you're praying,
have a notebook next to you, write
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:it down, to get it out of your head.
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:A lot of the times our brain just needs
to get those thoughts out of our head,
795
:write it down, set it aside and ask, the
Holy Spirit to come to help you focus.
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:, the evil one is going to try and distract
you in your prayer because His ultimate
797
:goal is to pull you away from God.
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:And if prayer is the ultimate way
that we are in union with God, aside
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:from the mass and receiving him in
the Eucharist, he's going to do
800
:that and he's going to distract you.
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:So try and beware of that.
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:Next question.
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:I don't have a consistent prayer
life anymore and in battling with
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:habitual sins, where do I start?
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:Thank you for your honesty
and your vulnerability.
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:I know that this is hard.
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:And what I would say to this
is you are always welcome back.
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:You know, welcome back.
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:I'm glad you're here.
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:I'm glad you're starting
over and you want to build
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:your prayer life back up again.
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:My number one recommendation, especially
if you feel like you're battling with
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:habitual sin is to go to confession.
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:The sacrament of reconciliation is truly
Jesus present, through the priest, right?
815
:It's called in persona Christi where
he is absolving us of our sins, giving
816
:us his mercy, giving us his love
and welcoming us back into his arms.
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:So go to confession and
then just start small.
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:It's okay if you took a break from
your prayer time, if you've been
819
:gone from the church, you're always
welcome back and just have grace
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:with yourself and start small.
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:Start with 15 minutes a day in
the morning and maybe build up.
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:Maybe you then.
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:Do 20 minutes the next week and
then 30 minutes the next week.
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:This goes for everyone.
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:I would highly, highly recommend that you
have about 30 minutes of prayer a day.
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:And when you're just starting, start
with a few minutes and build up,
827
:but if you can have 30 solid minutes
of prayer a day, That is gold.
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:That is the sweet spot.
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:If you can do one hour, I personally love
to do 30 to 60 minutes because I feel
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:like that's when I'm really, really able
to be in union with the Lord and to get
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:into everything that I want to get into.
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:Sometimes it takes me even like
15, 20 minutes just to focus.
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:so 30 to 60 minutes, but if
you can shoot for 30, do that.
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:Okay.
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:Next question.
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:How do you know what to pray?
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:When do you pray all kinds
of prayer every single day?
838
:And then how do you keep a prayer
routine, but still spice up your
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:prayers with different methods?
840
:So basically I think this person is
asking, like, how do you know which
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:type of prayer to pray when, and Do
you do things on certain days or how
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:do you make sure that your prayer
life is being, you know, switched up
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:and how do you change up your
different methods of prayer?
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:Um, ultimately it's up to you,
whatever works for you, whatever
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:you feel like is helping you focus
in prayer, connect with the Lord.
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:There is no right or wrong way to do it.
847
:And so listen to those
movements of your heart.
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:Listen to where you find peace, to where
you find comfort, to where you feel
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:like you're connecting with the Lord.
850
:And maybe in some seasons, prayer
journaling is going to be where it's at.
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:Maybe you just have so much on
your heart and you just have to
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:spill it all out to the Lord.
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:Maybe sometimes you
don't have a lot to say.
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:And so you go to scripture and you
do Lectio Divina because you use.
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:The word of God to guide your prayer.
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:Or maybe you, you bring in like
spiritual reading, a spiritual book,
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:to form your prayer and to learn
from the saints and to, bring their
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:teachings into your life and reflect
on what God is trying to tell you
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:about your life through those readings.
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:So really it's just a day to day
discernment or a season to season
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:discernment of what it is that is
helping you be in union with the Lord.
862
:Um, but I wouldn't say that
there's one specific answer or
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:one specific way or day that you
should do a specific type of prayer.
864
:If you want a little bit more
of a concrete answer, uh, this
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:is an example of like a prayer
timeline of what you could do.
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:If you were going to pray a holy hour
in Eucharistic adoration, you could do
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:the first 15 minutes of quieting your
heart, opening your hands and inviting
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:the Holy Spirit and just asking the
Lord to, rid your mind of distractions
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:and just use that time to focus on him.
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:And then the next, you know, 20
minutes could maybe be prayer
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:journaling or mental prayer where
you're just conversing with the Lord.
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:Telling him what's on your heart.
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:I'm asking for me, Mary's intercession or
a saint's intercession, and just telling
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:the Lord what's going on in your life.
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:Maybe the next 20 minutes can be a
scripture study or reading a spiritual
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:book to help kind of guide your prayer,
inform your heart and soul a little
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:bit more, and then the last 15 minutes.
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:I hope this is all adding up.
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:Right.
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:Can be prior journaling and you, you
know, recount what happened in your prayer
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:time, offer it all up to the Lord, or
maybe you end with a rosary, or maybe
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:you just end with 15 minutes of silence.
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:And maybe you just want to gaze at the
Lord and just be with him and, just
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:pray in the silence sometimes the
Lord speaks the loudest in the silence.
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:So I hope that helps.
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:Next question.
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:How to work through apathy towards prayer.
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:This is a big one.
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:Like I said at the beginning of the
podcast, you're not always going to feel
890
:like you want to pray and that's okay.
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:And I think a lot of people say sometimes
like, well, if I don't feel like praying,
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:then it's not going to be good prayer.
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:So I should probably just pray when I
feel like it because that's a better
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:offering to the Lord than just praying.
895
:For the sake of praying or because
I want to stick to a routine, you
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:know, um, and what I would say to
that is that if we only prayed when
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:we felt like praying, we probably
wouldn't be praying very much in those
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:moments when we do feel like praying,
that's actually a grace and a gift.
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:The Lord has given us to desire
him and to draw near to him.
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:So take advantage of those times
when you feel like praying.
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:Yes.
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:And when you don't feel like praying,
lean into it because it is that much more
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:of a gift to the Lord of the time and
effort that you're offering him in those
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:times when you don't really feel like it.
905
:And you know what?
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:It's okay to ask the Lord
to give you that desire.
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:If you are working through apathy
towards prayer, it's okay to pray,
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:Lord, I don't really feel like praying.
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:I don't really desire prayer.
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:Help me to desire it.
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:Help me to want to be with you.
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:Help me to want to pray.
913
:Pray that every day and I promise you
the Lord will fulfill that prayer.
914
:Okay.
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:And the last question I'm going to
answer is does prayer actually work?
916
:Oh my gosh.
917
:I feel like this could be
a whole episode in itself.
918
:Um, yes it does.
919
:And I'm just going to cite
one scripture verse here.
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:There are so many verses in
scripture that we can pull
921
:that reveals Jesus
teaching us about prayer.
922
:And even that reveals Jesus
praying to the father but I just
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:want to go to one right now.
924
:It's Luke chapter 11,
verse nine through 10.
925
:Let me pull it up on my Bible
because I don't have it memorized.
926
:Okay.
927
:I am a Catholic, so that
shouldn't come as a surprise.
928
:The passage is called
the answer to prayer.
929
:And it's Jesus speaking and he says,
and I tell you, ask and you shall
930
:receive, seek and you will find,
knock and the door will be open to
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:you for everyone who asks receives and
the one who seeks finds and the one
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:who knocks the door will be opened.
933
:What father among you would hand his son
a snake when he asks for a fish or hand
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:him a scorpion when he asks for an egg.
935
:If you then, who are wicked, know how
to give good gifts to your children, how
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:much more will the Father in heaven give
the Holy Spirit to those who ask him?
937
:Jesus, right here in scripture, says,
Ask the Lord, pray to the Lord, tell
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:him your needs, and you shall receive.
939
:So yes, prayer works, expressing
your needs to the Lord.
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:works.
941
:He wants to provide for you.
942
:He wants to bless you.
943
:He wants to answer your prayers.
944
:And it just takes you stepping
out in humility and boldness and
945
:courage and saying, Lord, I'm here.
946
:I love you.
947
:I need you.
948
:I don't know you.
949
:You know, I want to know you,
whatever it is that you're feeling.
950
:And the Lord will hear you.
951
:All right.
952
:So it's time that we wrap up this episode.
953
:One thing I want to say before we go is
that my hope for you is that whenever
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:you hear this episode, anything on
the show or encounter any of my faith
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:based content on Instagram, my hope
for you is that you would get off the
956
:app, that it would encourage you to go
seek the Lord and spend time with him.
957
:like don't just absorb all this advice.
958
:Although it's good.
959
:I hope it was helpful to you.
960
:Don't just absorb it and let it sit
there, but truly let it inspire you.
961
:Let it transform you.
962
:Let it motivate you to make
a change in your life and
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:actually implement this advice.
964
:Start building a daily prayer
life and draw closer to Jesus.
965
:When I started building
a daily prayer life.
966
:It changed my whole view of God.
967
:It changed my whole life.
968
:It changed my whole outlook, and it
brought me so much more peace and joy
969
:and allowed me to truly surrender my
entire life to God and to know that no
970
:matter what happens in my life, it's okay
because the Lord's will will be done.
971
:And the only way you can get to that
kind of peace in your life is by
972
:giving him time every single day and
coming to know he who is love himself.
973
:And if you still after hearing
this whole episode are like I feel
974
:like I'm not capable of doing this.
975
:I feel so unprepared.
976
:So it feels so unnatural.
977
:I'll leave you with one last thing.
978
:Ask the Holy Spirit to bless
you, ask the Holy Spirit to come
979
:and to teach you how to pray.
980
:Friends.
981
:Thank you for sticking with
me through this long episode.
982
:Thank you for asking these questions
and allowing me to speak these
983
:beautiful truths into your life.
984
:I hope that this blessed you.
985
:And if it did, please reach
out to me and let me know.
986
:I can't wait to have more of these
conversations with you in my DMS.