Episode 8

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8th May 2024

8: How To Reach Your Full God Given Potential | Leah Darrow

Listen in to Host Mari Wagner and guest Leah Darrow, discussing the integration of faith into everyday life, especially for women aiming to live Christ-centered lives amidst modern-day challenges. Leah Darrow, a former America's Next Top Model contestant, shares her journey from pursuing a secular modeling career to rediscovering her faith and purpose. She speaks candidly about the struggles and revelations that led her back to a life with Christ, emphasizing the message 'I made you for more' that she believes came from God. The conversation also delves into overcoming limiting beliefs, the importance of aligning actions with God's will, and achieving a balance between motherhood and personal dreams. Leah advocates for a life that is open to God's direction, suggesting that true fulfillment comes from surrendering to and actively pursuing God's plans.

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Transcript
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Hey friends, it's important that I share some context

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before we jump into this episode.

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Leah and I recorded this amazing episode

together about a month ago, and if you

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follow her on Instagram, you may have seen

the updates that her husband and friends

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have been sharing on her page since then.

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Leah underwent an emergency C section

about halfway through her pregnancy,

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and her baby and her are in critical

condition in the hospital right now.

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They are in dire need of

our prayers and support.

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To read the full update on her health,

please visit her Instagram at Leah.

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Darrow, please join me in praying

for Lyra and her baby's health

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and that the Lord would heal them

and restore them to full health.

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And if you feel called to help

them financially, the family

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is needing donations right now.

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You can help by Venmoing Leah's

husband, Ricky, at Ricky Paul.

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That's Ricky with a Y, Ricky Paul.

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Thank you, and I hope

you enjoy this episode.

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Leah is such a powerhouse woman,

full of wisdom and encouragement.

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Speaker 9: Hey, I'm your host, Mari

Wagner, and you're listening to the ever

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be podcast where faith meets lifestyle.

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I'm so excited you're here, whether you're

a new listener or a longtime follower,

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I know there's something here for you.

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Pull up a chair and listen in for

insightful real life conversations

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and actionable steps on how to claim

the full life God created you for.

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If you're a woman desiring to live

a Christ centered life in today's

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modern world, then this is for you.

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Welcome to Ever Be.

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Mari Wagner: Welcome back

everybody and happy Wednesday.

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I have an incredible

guest joining me today.

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Someone who I've learned so

much from over the years.

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I'm sure you've heard of her as well.

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She is a speaker and author

and entrepreneur host of the

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power made perfect program.

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I know she's a proud wife and if you

don't already know who this is, we

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have Leah Darrow on the show today.

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So Leah, welcome to ever be.

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Yeah, thanks for having me.

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I'm excited for us to

chat and get into it.

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Let's do it.

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Yeah, this is gonna be

a great conversation.

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, I just think your story is so

inspiring and speak so much to the

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mercy of Jesus and the beauty of

a life lived with Christ, which is

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something I just love to talk about.

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A lot of what I talk about is Christ

centered living and how a life lived

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with Christ is so much more full, so much

more joyful, so much more dream filled

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and exciting than a life lived without.

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Um, so we're going to get

into that a little bit today.

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Talk about how to reach that kind of like.

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Full god given potential.

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, but before we dive into all those good

questions for the audience that might

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not have heard of you before, can you

just share maybe a little bit of your

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background, who you are, so those

new listeners can learn about you.

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Yep.

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Absolutely.

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So, um, many moons ago I was on

America's Next Top Model and I did

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that whole reality TV thing and I

was on season or cycle three, that's

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what they call it, uh, of that show.

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And at this point in my life,

I was a good almost 10 years

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into living away from my faith.

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I was born and raised Catholic, um,

grew up in the church, grew up with

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all the things that you're told.

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But about, you know, high school ish

time, uh, I just made some mistakes

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that I thought were unredeemable

and I thought, well, that's it.

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That's it's it for me, man.

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I missed the boat.

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Like there's nothing good for me left.

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Uh, no, no good.

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Like there's not going to be some great

dream guy waiting for me saying, yeah,

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I want you because of what I had done.

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And I just thought,

well, that's it, I guess.

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I guess, you know, because I was raised

in the church, because I was raised

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with knowing right from wrong, even if

I didn't understand anything behind it,

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I was, I was raised in the faith and

I was raised with really good parents.

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Like I'm really blessed.

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I have a great upbringing.

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Um, you know, two parents, In the same

home who loved each other, stuck it out.

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You know, I mean, took us to

church every single Sunday.

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We had like the reserved pew in church.

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We were that family, you

know, like that was just it.

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So when I made all these mistakes,

it was, it just felt like, Oh yeah.

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You see, mercy is for the

people who just didn't know.

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And mercies for the people who, um,

are just not like you, like you were

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given everything and you screwed up.

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So that was the voice of the

enemy and I listened to that.

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So that kind of led me on a path

that just is that just, I just

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thought like, okay, I guess this

just isn't the place for me anymore.

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Like, Church isn't home for me.

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So you, we all want to belong.

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We desperately want to belong.

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You look at social media,

look at the comment sections

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on anybody's post anywhere.

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Like so many people who are creating

division because they're wanting to belong

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to a certain group or a thought group

or, uh, uh, any type of social group,

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whatever it is, but we want belonging.

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And so when Uh, you feel

like you don't belong.

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You're going to find people.

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You're going to find a group.

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You're going to find a way of life.

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You're going to find something

that helps you belong.

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And so that's kind of what I did.

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And that just put me on a path,

which led many years later to

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me thinking, Hey, let's audition

for America's next top model.

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This seems like a great idea.

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Like what a great way to live my life.

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Yeah.

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To be objectified in front

of millions of people.

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Maybe even billions of people,

you know, around the world.

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Like this is great.

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So I did.

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I was on cycle three and it

was everything that you would

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probably expect reality TV to be.

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It's dramatic.

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It's ridiculous.

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It's most of the things that they

present to you on TV are complete.

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Um, It's like there's like a little

element of truth of what they show, but

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the way that they show it, it's just,

it's not the way it actually went down.

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And uh, you know, that's

probably another episode, but

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it was just a really wild time.

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So I was on the show, I was eliminated

from America's Next Top Model.

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I decide, okay, well

what am I going to do?

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Like I didn't win.

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Um, and knowing me and my personality,

it's just like, then try again.

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Just keep going.

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Like, it's going to work

for you at some point.

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Like, don't give up.

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I've always had that mentality.

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Don't give up no matter who

tells you, no, don't give up.

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Um, it doesn't matter

what other people say.

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And for better or for worse, I have

this, this part of my personality.

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So I was like, I'm going to keep going.

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I know I relate all the way.

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Yeah.

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You either go forward or you go home.

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Right.

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And I mean, I wasn't going to go home,

so we're going to keep going big.

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No.

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So I stayed in New York and I found

myself a place to live and I decided

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I am going to keep doing this.

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If I went on this stupid TV show and said

I was going to be some fashion model,

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I'm going to be some fashion model.

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And I, and I did that.

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So I, I did that.

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I got jobs.

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I was, I was working, I did New York

fashion week and I was doing all

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the things that I was climbing the

ladder, so to speak in that space.

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And, um, uh, you know, getting a

paycheck, my paycheck had a comma in it.

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My picture was on the billboards in

times square is on the side of taxi cabs.

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So I'm walking around New York

city at this point, you know?

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Um, and.

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And this is in the early 2000s.

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I know this is like a long, like just,

just so long ago at this point, it's

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crazy to think about, but you're walking

around and, you know, social media

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hadn't hit yet, you have to remember

this, like social media wasn't there.

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Like.

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AOL chat was going on.

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So like, I don't even know if you

have a listener who can even relate

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to what I just the words I just said.

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I don't think I had one.

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Yeah.

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So I mean, I didn't either, but

like, like there were forums and

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chat boards where people would go

online to comment about other people.

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And it was kind of like in

this secluded place on the

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internet, but it was still there.

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And, um, Okay.

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I mean, you know, just going through

that show and I remember going to one of

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those forums and seeing what strangers

all around the world had to say about me

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was just There's nothing like a punch to

the gut than reading about strangers who

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have Such hateful things to say about

you and they don't know you they I mean

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and the things that they would say um

I mean, there were people telling me to

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kill myself because of how I look and I

said, no, like, like it's, it's intense.

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I mean, I say that, so it's not just

like, you're not pretty, like who cares

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about that stuff, but it's other things.

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There's people talking about your

character and your integrity and if

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you should even exist on the planet.

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And that was this, Window into,

you know, I guess the experience

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that unfortunately, a lot of

people have today on social media.

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So, I, I just, you

know, kept my head down.

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I was going to keep going, um, living

in New York and I, it looked like

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everything was good because if you

saw the billboards and you saw the

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taxi cabs and all right, you made it.

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And you saw me on TV, um, and then

you'd have some people recognize

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you like, weren't you on that show?

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That's on right now.

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You know, um, it makes you feel like

it makes you feel like you're somebody

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and it makes you feel like you belong.

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But then you're like, but like

where, like who do I belong to?

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Like, what's that group?

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I mean, and there's a lot of longing

and a lot of loneliness going on, but I

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had to pretend that everything was fine.

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So anyway, a lot of

that was stirring in me.

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Again, I'm not practicing my

faith whatsoever at this point.

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Right.

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Whatsoever.

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Um, I had abandoned it.

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This is about 10 years in now.

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Um, I've abandoned my faith completely.

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It's not that I did not believe in God.

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I was not an atheist.

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I was not agnostic.

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It

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Leah Darrow: was just on the back burner.

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Mari Wagner: If yeah, if it even was

there, you know, it was just, it was

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just like, it was a blip of my past.

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It was like if somebody said something

and it was religious or spiritually based.

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I'm like, Oh yeah, I think I

know what you're talking about.

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I was raised Catholic.

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Leah Darrow: Like

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Mari Wagner: it was this thing that

happened to me in the past and you

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know, I didn't go into it, but it

was just like, yeah, it's just,

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it's, it didn't carry through.

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And I think that's really, it's where

a lot of people find themselves in

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is, um, no, don't know how to quite

identify with that old group because

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of clearly you have a conscience and

you have enough intellect to know that.

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You don't practice that anymore,

but you, but you were raised that.

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So it's just a quick thing to say

like, Oh yeah, I was raised this way.

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So I under, I can, I can, I can

pick up on the conversation.

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Well, anyway, so all this kind

of culminates into this photo

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shoot that I was asked to do.

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So I was asked to do this photo shoot

for this international magazine.

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It was supposed to really help my career.

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And so I agreed to do it, of course.

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And, um, it was, you know, in the photo

shoot where, um, We were changing sets.

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And so they were changing the

set and getting everything ready.

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And there's just a lot of people in

this big warehouse, you know, and,

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um, Upper East side of New York.

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And, uh, we're getting everything

ready and, and they do hair and

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makeup and everything else on me.

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And so they're, they're priming me and I'm

changing outfits and I'm coming back in.

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And I remember the, okay, Leah stands

here and we just need to take a picture

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really quick, just to check like

lightning, to see what it looks like.

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And they took a Polaroid.

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So they have like these spots where

you're supposed to stand and get

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into your pose and do your work.

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And so I did that.

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They took a Polaroid and they

showed me so that I would remember,

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like, I need to make sure that my

feet are right here at this spot.

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I said, yeah, okay, I got it.

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And I gave the Polaroid back to them.

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Um, and we started up with the shoot.

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And then the first, the first shot that

the photographer took for me in that

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pose, um, I just made the rookie move

and I looked straight into the flash

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instead of the lens, which is like,

this is a really bad rookie move because

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there's a lot of flashes going on here

at this time of, of, um, uh, experience.

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And I had to hold up my handles like,

hold on a second, hold on a second.

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Um, and they knew what was going on.

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Like, I clearly like, you know.

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Head stars in my eyes.

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And I was just blinking as fast

as I could to regain my focus.

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And it was in that moment of regaining

my focus where I saw myself inside

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my head, like a little movie was

playing and it wasn't like a big deal.

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Like I just saw myself and it was just

like the picture that they had just

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shown me, like the Polaroid pictures.

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I was like, it's, I

mean, that was just it.

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Um, but I did notice that my

hands were cupped together

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like this, like at my waist.

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And then I was raising them up to.

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Give them to somebody.

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And then I saw Alton up above me,

the shadowy profile of a man's face.

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And this is all my head.

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It's like a little movie

is playing once again.

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Um, so it's like the shadowy

profile of a man's face.

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And I raised my hands and I give them

to him and he just looked at them and

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bowed in his head and disappointment.

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And I pulled my hands right back down to

my waist to see what was so disappointing.

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Um, and they were just completely empty.

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Like they were just empty.

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And there were five words I

heard in my heart at that point.

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And.

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And again, all of this is happening

within a matter of 60 seconds.

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Keep that in mind.

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This is all very, very fast.

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Um, it's just all in my head.

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Leah Darrow: I heard,

but I heard five words.

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these seem to be even more real

than what I saw in my head.

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And it just, the five words that

I heard were, I made you for more.

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Even when I say it, like, it just, I like

start crying immediately when I say it.

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And I've told this story, I've been

on stages for 15 plus years now.

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I know.

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Thousands of times.

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Thousands.

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I don't even know.

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I don't even, I couldn't even count

how many times I've shared this.

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It's so many and it still gets me.

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I've even heard these words.

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I've even heard you share this story live

like maybe three times and every time

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it pierces my heart too, because it just

shows the heart of the father, like what

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you said earlier about how you thought,

you know, mercy was just for the people

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who were, who didn't know, like, that

just proves like, that's so not true.

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Like, the father has a heart for every

single one of his children and here he

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was, you know, reaching out for you.

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Yeah, yeah, and I heard it five times.

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I made you for more.

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Mari Wagner: I made you

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Leah Darrow: for more.

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Mari Wagner: And then the last two times,

the emphasis to me, I heard it more on the

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first part, which was I made you for more.

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And it just kind of, to

me, it reminded me of

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Leah Darrow: You didn't do this.

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You didn't make yourself.

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I know you think you're making your life,

but I'm, I made you, and I have a plan

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for you, and this is not the plan I had

for you, and then that's just like, a

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fact, it's just the truth, it's just a

statement, and it's just, we have, we

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have to react, respond to that, we have

to respond with an action to that truth.

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And I just stood there.

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I remember I kind of came out of it cause

I heard snapping from the photographer.

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And he's like, Leah, come on, let's focus.

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Let's let, let's get back into it.

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And I remember just being like,

looking around being like, I

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think I want to do this anymore.

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And they were like, what?

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And I'm like, um,

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I got to go.

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And they're like, Oh,

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no, no, you see, you

don't get to choose that.

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Like, I know you think you're special

being the model, but you're not.

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And you have to stay and finish the job.

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Like you have the

contract, we've signed it.

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There's legal things.

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You're already here in makeup.

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We've already finished half of it.

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You're going to finish it.

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And I was like, no, I'm not,

I'm not going, I'm not going to.

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And I just, I just knew, I just

knew the right thing to do.

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And when you know the right

thing to do in a moment.

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It's, you know, you can offer whatever

you want to somebody, but they're,

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you know, if they're, if they're

stuck on the right thing, they're

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not gonna, they're not gonna falter.

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So I just threw off their

clothes, put on mine.

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They were talking, they

had people coming up to me.

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They sent like the hair and makeup ladies

over to me like, Hey, come on, it's okay.

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Everybody feels like

this in the beginning.

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You're going to get more used

to it because they didn't

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know what was going on.

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They didn't know why I was

picking up and leaving obviously.

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Um, I just grabbed all my stuff.

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I remember just grabbing things and, um,

clutching on myself and just like going to

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this big, big warehouse, warehouse door.

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It just felt like this big block

of cement, but it's like this big

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metal door and I was opening it and I

remember the photographer was standing

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in the back and he was just pissed.

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I mean, like not happy, not

happy at all that I ruined his,

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his

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day.

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And now he's got to go back and tell

other people like, Hey, our model

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just just walked out on the shoot.

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Um, But he just said, if you leave,

I remember turning around at the door

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because his, his voice is so piercing.

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He goes, if you leave, you'll be a nobody.

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I'll make sure of it.

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If you leave, you'll be a nobody.

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And I looked at him and I

just said, do you promise?

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And, um, he just like, Like what?

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Yeah.

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So do you

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promise?

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And then he, I mean, they didn't respond.

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Everyone just stood there like, what?

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And I just walked out.

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So I walked out and I walked out that

door, got into the open air of New York

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as open air as it could be in that city.

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But you go, and I just remember just

walking down fifth Avenue, crying

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like crazy, you know, mascaras

just dripping down my face cause

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all the makeup they put on you.

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Um, And I remember just

thinking, what am I going to do?

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I think I just left my whole career.

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I think I just walked out.

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I think that was like a symbolic

walking out of everything I'm doing.

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I think that's, I think that's

what's happening right now.

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Um, and you know, um, so I got, I got

home, I got to my apartment and, um, I

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did the only, anything, the only thing

that a girl could do, you know, I mean,

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I, um, I called my dad and, uh, I called

home and I called my dad and my dad

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answered and I said, um, if you don't come

and get me, I'm going to lose my soul.

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And that's all that I said.

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I didn't even say hello.

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And there was this long pause.

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Um, You After I said that to

my dad, I mean, it was long.

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I don't, I don't know what it

was, but it felt so uncomfortable.

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It was, I just thought, I

don't know, I don't know what

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he's going to say, you know.

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At this point, they knew that I had

been very away from the faith for

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quite a while, and that I wasn't

practicing, and I wasn't living

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a life at all close to anything

resembling somebody with morality.

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Like, it, it, It was so obvious.

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Like they, I was the talk of the

Thanksgiving dinners of praying

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for like, how many novenas are

you going to start for that girl?

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Because like I was the one that

they said all their novenas for,

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um, well, praise God for that.

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When he, yeah.

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I mean, you know, I mean, I

guess if gossip helps somebody

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pray, I mean, go for it, I guess.

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But, um, I don't know what you're walking

a fine line there, but yeah, but, but,

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but, but there, but there were, there

were very, sincere people praying for me.

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Yeah.

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And, and that was definitely needed.

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Um, cause I couldn't pray for myself.

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I couldn't pray for anything.

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And, but when my dad finally, you

know, spoke, he just said, um, okay.

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All right, baby, I'm coming to get you.

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And then my dad drove 2000 miles

and he came and he picked me up.

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I mean, he literally drove, um, yeah,

right around like:

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and get me and he got me and he got to

my doorstep, he knocked on the door.

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And at this point I'm like a,

I am like a stupid hot mess.

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Like we're talking, it was bad.

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Um, and I know that we've all had moments

like this, but this was definitely like

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the low, one of the lowest of the lows.

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I'm still to this day, I've ever

experienced before and I get to the door

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and I'm, I mean, I'm just done and he sees

me and I open up the door and he's got his

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hands out, like totally stretched out and

he like leans in, he kind of jumps at me

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and he's like, I am so happy to see you.

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And he's like, before we leave New

York, I'm going to go to central park

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and I want to go to Carnegie deli

and eat this big Reuben sandwich and

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blah, and I'm like, uh, what, what?

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What?

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What?

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I'm like, do you know why you're here?

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I am the screw up.

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I failed.

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I didn't make it.

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I have been a horrible example

to my five younger brothers and

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sisters most of my entire life.

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I have been the reason why you

have been in tears and praying and

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on your knees for the past year.

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10 years.

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I have made every horrible decision.

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To be honest with you, I can't believe

I haven't died from my whole lifestyle

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that I've been living lately and that

you're not picking me up at a morgue.

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So why would you be happy?

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Like, I'm almost angry.

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Like, right.

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You can't be happy to see me.

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Like I'm such a mess up.

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Like you don't get to be happy.

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You know, you don't get

to be happy about me.

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Like, no one should be happy about me.

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No one, like, I'm not happy about me.

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I haven't been happy about me for years.

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I'm an angry, bitter, cynical,

sarcastic, vain girl who is stuck in

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a rut and doesn't know how to get out.

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Like, how would you, why

would you want to be happy to

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see me?

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And I can't get any of that out.

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Cause I was like, what?

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And he's like, yeah, I'm like, okay.

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So you want to go get

a sandwich at a park?

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And he's like, yeah.

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So I grabbed my keys

and I'm like, um, okay.

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I mean, my dad's a hungry guy, but.

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I'm just thinking this is a really

awkward time to be hungry, but okay, fine.

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We'll go get this sandwich.

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So I'm trying to leave and he is not

leaving the doorframe of my apartment.

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He's like, he never

entered into my apartment.

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All of this conversation is

taking place at the doorframe.

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And so he, um, he just doesn't move.

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And I said, dad, let's go,

let's go get that sandwich

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that you really want to have.

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And he's like, yes, but first, first.

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We go to confession.

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Oh, and that's when I melted

into a puddle on the floor.

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I was like, oh Okay That won't

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work for me, right?

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I mean, you know back in

ten years more, right?

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That's crazy Yeah, yeah.

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Mari Wagner: Um, I remember passing

by churches in New York on a

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Sunday and smelling incense and

I would stop for a quick second,

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you know, and look at the door and

just be like, I had good memories.

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I just didn't think I

belonged anymore there.

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So I never went back in and uh, yeah.

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Yeah, and that's all, I

mean, it's so many things.

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It's pride, it's shame, it's, um,

fear, um, it's change, you know?

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I mean, we're, we, we either

look for change or we run

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away from change in our life.

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And that's kind of how you can tell

the difference between somebody

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who's growth mindseted or not,

has a growth mindset or not.

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It's like, do you, do you,

do you look for change?

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Or do you run away from it?

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Because we're, we like being

comfortable, you know, we, we do.

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And that's not always a bad

thing, but we're not meant to

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stay in any state or place.

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We're not even, this isn't even

our home, where we are right now.

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Right.

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Um, we're meant for something greater.

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So, there's gonna be a very big change

happening in all of our lives at death

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and, Every little change we experience

here on earth prepares us a little

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bit for those bigger changes And I

think it was just so much of that

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fear because when you accept truth

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Leah Darrow: and you accept

mercy It asks you to change

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It's kind of like the assumption that

like okay, so we're starting over but

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not to go back You start over to move

beyond to try something different Right.

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Um, so my dad said confession.

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Yeah.

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I mean, um, it was really scary, but,

uh, And again, he wouldn't let me

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talk before I could even say anything.

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He knows me well enough.

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He was just like, look, you

were the one that called and you

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said you wanted to come home.

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I'm, I'm, I'm here to take you home.

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And Jesus is home.

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And if you want to go anywhere else,

you can call Southwest Airlines.

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So, um, That was it.

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That was it.

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Like that, that was the beginning

of me coming back to faith.

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It was the beginning of

me, uh, restarting my life.

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It was the beginning of

me having a new life.

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Um, there's, you know, we all have

these demarcations in our life of

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different moments where it's like

you, like life was never the same

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after that one thing happened.

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And this is one of them for me.

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Life was never the same

after this happened.

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It was like, okay.

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This is really hitting that reset button.

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This is like, okay, like,

let's look at our life.

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Let's see what we're doing.

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Let's see what we're not doing.

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What do I need to change?

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What thinking do I need to change?

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What thoughts do I need to change?

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Which actions, all of it.

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And so that became that moment.

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And then from there, um, what a lot

of people now know me for in public

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speaking in my work and what I'm

currently doing now is all after that

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moment of that demarcation, right?

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So it's from there, it was, you know, um,

I spent about three years just working on

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myself, like what I call spiritual rehab.

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Like I was just in deep spiritual

rehab and, um, trying to untangle all

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of this stuff that got tangled up, um,

over those 10 years of what I thought

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about myself, what I thought about

God, what I thought about faith, what

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I thought about the church, um, what

I thought about men, um, sin, shame.

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Learning how to forgive, learning

how to let go, learning how

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to appreciate my future enough

to make it affect my present.

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And that just kind of led from all of

that after about three years, which I

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had no intention of this whole life that

I'm doing right now of ever happening.

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Um, but there was an opportunity for

me that I did not create, um, where

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I, it was for me to share my story.

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And then that opportunity

rolled into another one

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and

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then another one and then I

was like, okay, I think I'm, I

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guess this is what I'm doing.

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This is what I'm doing.

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Is this what I'm doing?

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I don't know.

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What's this what I'm doing?

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So, so I just started public speaking.

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I started sharing my story and then

that kind of started developing

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into the work that I'm doing now.

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And then, um, and here

I am now and I've got a.

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Now I do personal development and

I actually do business coaching.

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So it's just moved.

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It's kind of evolved

all throughout the time.

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And so here I am.

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That was a really long intro, but

hopefully you can edit that to make

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it background info that we needed,

but no, your story is so beautiful.

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Thank you for sharing that.

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I think that it's so

relatable on so many levels.

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Um, Whether, you know, you too,

you know, listening are the New

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York model, which I feel like

that's not most listeners, right?

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But I think that there's something

that like every woman can relate to,

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you know, I've heard it being called

like the God sized hole in you and

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especially like, we talked about the

beginning, like our personalities,

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like dreamer, go getter, like, there's

just this like innate desire, I think,

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in women to like, To be great, right?

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To be seen as beautiful to like live

up to this, like gift that the Lord has

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given them to live up to this potential.

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And it feels like your story, like

that's what you were trying to do.

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Like wherever you were placed,

you were trying to reach that

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call, reach that given potential

that the Lord placed upon you.

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And because of where.

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Your maybe values were or your eyes

were set on it was being misplaced and

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I think that's something that a lot

of us can relate to at some point in

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our life of just like I'm Trying to

make it or I'm trying to do it, right?

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Or I'm trying to like be the best that

I can or maybe maybe you're not trying

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but you even want to and you wish You

could and you just don't quite know

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Where to place it or you just don't

quite know where exactly it is that the

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Lord is it's calling you to reach that

so Let's, let's start, like, real simple

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here, like, what does it even mean,

right, to reach your God given potential?

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I think, like, this sounds kind of

intimidating, and some people might

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be like, Oh, I don't know, like,

God maybe doesn't have that big, you

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know, a big plan, like, that for me.

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But everybody has a God given potential

and a plan, so what does that really mean?

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Yeah.

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I mean, so it's going to be

completely unique and, you know, and

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unrepeatable for every single person.

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So like, like just calm down when

you ask yourself this question

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because you inevitably will want to

naturally compare something about

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somebody else and what they're doing.

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And then you, and listen, maybe

somebody, somebody's inspired you.

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Maybe they're, maybe they're,

they're living out their God given

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potential and you're like, yeah.

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Yeah.

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:

Yeah.

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What's mine?

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Is mine just like that?

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Probably not.

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:

Even if it's the same thing, you're going

to do it in a different way, you know?

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:

So your God given potential is you

being fully you with God and it's

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allowing God to fully work in you

and being very comfortable in that

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and doing that from a place of

sincerity and humility and service.

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:

So any, I, it's so common.

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It's such a common.

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One of my biggest pet peeves is this very

common phrase that I'm going to share with

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you now, and what you, you kind of touched

on it, which is when somebody talks

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about this, like, what is your potential?

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Like, what is God?

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:

Um, like what, what, what do

you think God wants from you?

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:

Or are you, um, his plan for your life?

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:

Uh, the common phrase,

like, Oh, I don't know.

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:

Like there, there's no plan for me.

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I'm just like, stop one.

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You are completely, you're

completely negating scripture,

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which is the word of God.

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So you're wrong.

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You're just so wrong.

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:

It's not funny.

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:

And you have to stop lying to yourself

to make yourself comfortable because for

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you to step out and become who you are

is going to make you so uncomfortable.

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:

And you're scared of what may people

may think or say of you deal with

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:

that, but don't deal with this crap

that God doesn't have a plan for you.

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Like it's nonsense.

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And it is a, it's a, it's a

crutch of faith that people use.

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:

To not fully be all that they can be.

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:

And when we talk about be all that you

can be and be all that you can be with

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God, it does not mean that you have to

go and abandon all of the people God's

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:

given you to go out into the world

and do something completely secular.

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:

That's also something else.

627

:

Like when you think about like

achieving your dreams or your plans

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:

or the plans, God has God given, given

each one of us that are unique to us.

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It doesn't necessarily mean that you have

to go and like be an entrepreneur or go

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:

be a missionary like no Actually that that

might not be it But there is a plan and

631

:

there are these things that we are called

to do and so much of our plans that God

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:

gives Us to do are hidden And there, no

one sees them except for a few people.

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:

Definitely God.

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:

I mean, the most interesting thing

about me has nothing to do with

635

:

my public persona, has nothing to

do with my Instagram, has nothing

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:

to do with the programs I run.

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:

It's the least interesting thing about me.

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:

Like I've got so many more interesting

things that I do that God's given me

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:

plans for that I'm doing right now, but

you don't know them and you don't see

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:

them because their plans for me and my

life and my children, my husband and our

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:

farm, you It's, we're, we're multifaceted.

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:

So I think we need to, again,

calm down about this whole

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like dream and plan thing.

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:

Cause we get so overworked, like if I

don't know what the whole plan is, then

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:

I don't, then I don't know what to do.

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:

Then I'll, then I'll never know.

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:

And a lot of times what God gives

us is little bits of breadcrumbs.

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:

He sometimes doesn't reveal the whole

thing right away, but what, what do

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:

you think is your next best step?

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:

What do you think is your next

best step in your life to really

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:

becoming fully you as God?

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:

Amen.

653

:

For you to engage in his divine

energy and power and work in your

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:

life with him What do you think is

like your next best step like today?

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What could you do today?

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:

And if you start there it will begin to

the plan will be revealed to you and a lot

657

:

of times that plan is something where it's

going to be very similar to What we read

658

:

in the gospels of peter calling out to

or jesus calling out to peter in the boat

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:

saying, you know Step out of the boat.

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:

Um You Peter had no idea

what was the next move.

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:

He had no idea.

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:

He's like, he's just calling me out

of this boat and it doesn't seem like

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I should be walking on the water.

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I mean, it does.

665

:

I mean, I see him doing it, but I

don't see, this doesn't make sense.

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:

And if Peter would stick, if, if,

if we were Peter, we would never

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:

would have gotten out of the boat.

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:

Right, but when you start keeping your

focus on Christ and know that you know

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what I'm gonna step out of this boat I'm

gonna do the thing that's uncomfortable.

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I'm gonna do the thing

that's a little scary.

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I'm gonna start when I'm not ready I'm

gonna start and it's gonna be messy and I

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:

might I might fall God's there picking you

up and he's gonna redirect you and I think

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:

we kind of forget that God's a part of

this plan and When we forget that God's a

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:

part of the plan, we put too much control

and responsibility on our shoulders.

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:

But Christ says, take my yoke upon you.

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And when he talks about that,

if you just remember what a

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:

yoke is, it's for two people.

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It's not for one.

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So he's not saying, Hey, take my yoke.

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I'm going to, I'm going

to get out of here.

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:

I think you can handle on your

own like he's not doing that.

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:

He's saying no be under the yoke with me

So if this is the plan for our life, then

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:

we have to trust that god will redirect

us and recalibrate us when we take a

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:

step That's not quite right or didn't

seem like it was the right way to go.

685

:

Like god's god.

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:

Just let him be him You be

you And just take some action.

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:

Absolutely.

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:

No, I agree with that so much.

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:

And I think where people might get stuck

with that is sometimes we feel like we

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:

hear that call or we kind of feel that

call and it's not super clear, you know?

691

:

It's kind of like a Holy Spirit

nudge of like, this is the way, or

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:

like, take that leap, or, you know?

693

:

And I think even though

we feel that, we doubt it.

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:

And we're like, Lord, is this really you?

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:

Or like, how do I know for sure?

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:

Like, God, can you give me a

sign that this is actually you?

697

:

Like, I actually need to know.

698

:

So what are maybe some of those,

like, concrete or practical things

699

:

people can do if they feel that nudge

or if they're ready to take a step?

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:

Like, what do they really do to go for it?

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:

Yep.

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:

Yep.

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:

Absolutely.

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:

So I'll take you through a few steps.

705

:

Actually go through this in

detail inside of power me.

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:

Perfect.

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:

We have like a whole session on this

and it's, it's the, the, the title of

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:

that session actually is, is how, um,

uh, our decisions determine our success.

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:

And.

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What type of decisions we make will

determine obviously what, where

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:

we're going and what we're doing.

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:

It sounds obvious, but we get really

stuck of like, is this God's will?

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:

Should I do this?

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Should I not do this?

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:

And then you like get into like this

thought loop and you never get out of it.

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:

That's a.

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:

Tactic of the enemy, number

one, is just to sit there.

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:

So kind of keep in mind like

you're in spiritual warfare

719

:

when you're in that space.

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So it doesn't mean necessarily to go

and do that thing, but you're in the

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:

middle of spiritual warfare, whether you

do that thing or you not do that thing.

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:

So one, you have to figure out, like,

to be honest with you, a lot of these

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:

decisions that we have to make are

usually amoral, meaning they're not like

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these grave moments of like, should I?

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:

Should I hurt this person and stab

him with the pencil or should I not?

726

:

Like, okay.

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:

But I think you have a problem if you

don't know the answer to that right away.

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:

Right.

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:

But a lot of the questions

that we have are amoral.

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:

So they don't have a huge

weight to them morally speaking.

731

:

And that might relieve people just

to know that, you know, just be

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:

like, okay, I can make a decision.

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:

And if it doesn't work

out, it'll be all right.

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:

You know, um, so you have to

figure out like one, does this

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:

follow God's commandments?

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:

Or does it not so literally you'll

pull up your ten commandments and

737

:

you're going to go through This

idea that I have to do this thing.

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:

Is it an alignment with

god's law and love for me?

739

:

Let's just say that it is now you're

going to move on to Is this an alignment?

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:

With my state or vocation in life

So, you know if one of my it's

741

:

not but if one of my dreams was I

want to be Delta Airlines pilot.

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:

I that's that's it.

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:

It's all I want to do right now.

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:

I would say is this does this follow

God's, you know, Ten Commandments,

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:

you know, I might get away

with saying, yeah, okay, it is.

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:

And then I go to that second one and

be like, does it align with your state?

747

:

And vocation and life.

748

:

And I'm like, well, let's see.

749

:

I'm a wife.

750

:

I got a lot of kids at home.

751

:

Don't think me leaving for pilot

school and then taking a job or

752

:

I'm a full time pilot is going

to be the best for that vocation.

753

:

So then it stops me right there.

754

:

That's an extreme example, but you have

to see like, what does, how does this

755

:

affect my vocation and state in life?

756

:

What are the positives?

757

:

What are the benefits, pros and cons?

758

:

And then from there, it's,

it's, is this bringing me peace?

759

:

Is there, is there peace about it when

I can put away what other people think

760

:

about it, when I can put away the fears

I have of failing in front of others?

761

:

Does it bring me peace?

762

:

Does it bring me joy?

763

:

Like, is there something deep within

there that I can say yes to or no to?

764

:

And then from there, like sometimes

like those three easy steps are just

765

:

a quick way to like check yourself and

then decide, okay, what would be the

766

:

smallest first step I could make in the

direction of this dream or goal or plan?

767

:

Then you take that and you just

need to get more information.

768

:

A lot of times we just stay up in our

head with our ideas and we don't do

769

:

enough practical applied knowledge.

770

:

So, okay.

771

:

Um, you, you, maybe you want to change

careers or you want to change schools.

772

:

Like, okay, have, have you

interned at this new job that

773

:

you're thinking About doing?

774

:

Have you visited that school?

775

:

Have you, um, whatever it might be.

776

:

Blake, have you done anything?

777

:

Have you taken any action that

doesn't require a permanent

778

:

step in that direction, but get

you more information about it?

779

:

And those are the things that you can

do practically to kind of start to

780

:

see, um, how much more you understand

that this new dream of yours, and

781

:

if it's still something that you're

very excited about, even after you

782

:

start taking these steps through it.

783

:

Yeah, no, that's beautiful.

784

:

Thank you for sharing all that.

785

:

It makes me excited.

786

:

I want to take a look at that whole

section of your, of your course.

787

:

I think Those are such good questions.

788

:

I've never thought about before

but like you said like basics, but

789

:

like they help you make decisions

And I think so many people struggle

790

:

with decision making these days.

791

:

It's like Especially big decisions.

792

:

They're like paralyzing, you know,

and it's just like, Oh my gosh, like

793

:

what if I make the right decision

or what I hear a lot is like,

794

:

what if I make the wrong decision?

795

:

Like, is that going to

screw up God's plan for me?

796

:

Or like, am I not going to find the person

for me if I choose this instead of this?

797

:

And in the end, you know what

you're seeing is like discernment

798

:

takes action and you like taking a

step in whatever direction, right?

799

:

With prayer, like you said, like with

discernment, um, not just like randomly.

800

:

But, like, the Lord works with us and,

like, has given us that will and intellect

801

:

and, like, we can't mess up God's plan.

802

:

That's just impossible, you know, and he

works with our life and even, like, your

803

:

story, you're saying that, like, the, for

all those years, like, you were away and,

804

:

like, you know, you can say, like, oh, my

gosh, I messed up the life God had for me.

805

:

But.

806

:

But look at you now, like the Lord

works with everything that we give

807

:

him and all those small yeses that

lead to bigger yeses that we give him

808

:

to craft this amazing story for our

lives, um, that will sanctify us and

809

:

hopefully those around us as well.

810

:

So that was really beautiful.

811

:

Um, sometimes, you know, we put

limitations on ourselves, even when

812

:

we're taking these steps, or we

start to hear these voices in our

813

:

head and we start to believe, you

know, things that might hold us back.

814

:

Um, what is your advice?

815

:

To how to overcome these

things, these voices or these

816

:

limiting beliefs that we have.

817

:

Yeah.

818

:

Oh boy.

819

:

I love this.

820

:

I love talking about limiting beliefs.

821

:

I have, um, I'm actually gonna be

putting it out again really soon.

822

:

I have a free masterclass on limiting

beliefs and it is It is so good.

823

:

It is so good because I'm just like,

man, how many limiting beliefs do we

824

:

hold on to that are running our lives?

825

:

It's very possible that your life

is not being run by you, but it's

826

:

being run by your limiting beliefs.

827

:

And that's why you're so

darn unhappy in your life.

828

:

It's not because you've necessarily

chosen it, but you've let your limiting

829

:

beliefs run amok and they're on autopilot.

830

:

Transcribed And you just, we have to

stop that those voices of limitation and

831

:

really see like, what is God calling?

832

:

God is calling to us in scripture.

833

:

He calls us to renew our mind.

834

:

He calls us to not listen to the lies.

835

:

He calls us to keep

our minds set on truth.

836

:

This I mean, okay.

837

:

If you call yourself a Christian, you've

entered into the greatest personal

838

:

development program in the world, by

the way, so don't tell me you don't

839

:

like personal development because if

you call yourself a Christian, you

840

:

like, you are a, you're a member,

you've got the jacket, you're wearing

841

:

the pen, like, it's done, okay?

842

:

Christ shows us the way.

843

:

I mean, I kind of joke

around in my in my program.

844

:

My Paul is like one of the

first personal development

845

:

coaches, life coaches out there.

846

:

I mean, he's constantly talking to the

people right of Corinth and everything

847

:

else saying, what are you doing?

848

:

Do this.

849

:

You were doing that.

850

:

Like he is.

851

:

Coaching us in this space and Christ

gives us the entire plan in the whole way.

852

:

So limiting beliefs.

853

:

Let's let's go back to that one

Okay, there is there's a lot

854

:

of talk around limiting beliefs

and around personal development.

855

:

That's really unhelpful.

856

:

That's not very helpful So there's

all this toxic positivity of like,

857

:

you know what you can do anything

you can accomplish anything talk

858

:

to the universe Where's your mom?

859

:

I'm like, okay.

860

:

Well, okay Talk to the creator of the

universe that might be more beneficial

861

:

for you than the thing he created, right?

862

:

Um, and then two, we have to use truth.

863

:

So when it comes to eliminating

belief, you have to acknowledge it.

864

:

You cannot pretend it doesn't exist.

865

:

You can't, um, just shoo it away.

866

:

You have to say, Oh, okay.

867

:

This is a limiting belief like

where is the truth in this belief?

868

:

And then you really try to find the

truth and like what's gonna happen is

869

:

that possibly in these limiting beliefs

you're gonna want to support it because

870

:

Subconsciously if you do that it keeps

you from from this taking massive

871

:

action in your life And our brains are

meant to are meant for survival So it

872

:

wants you to just survive, but Christ

calls us to elevate our minds to him.

873

:

So we have to be able to say,

okay, where's the truth in this?

874

:

Is this statement, would this

statement literally come out of

875

:

the mouth of Christ or would it

come out of the mouth of Satan?

876

:

And that's usually a

really big help, right?

877

:

It'd be like, would Christ say this to me?

878

:

In truth, would he say it to me

with his lips, with his words, where

879

:

nothing out of his mouth could ever

be anything but perfectly true?

880

:

Would he say this?

881

:

Would he say it like that?

882

:

Would he say it with that tone?

883

:

Would he say it with that emphasis?

884

:

Would he say it like that?

885

:

And you have to be really honest

with yourself with that one limiting

886

:

belief that you're working on in

this moment of like, is that really

887

:

something that Christ would say to me?

888

:

Now, would, is this something that

the enemy would say, say to me?

889

:

And then where does that belief,

what does that belief turn into?

890

:

If that luminum belief turns into

something where it puts you into a

891

:

pit of despair, where it puts you into

the point of like, ugh, I'm the worst.

892

:

I'm like, the, I'm like, I'm not smart.

893

:

I'm not, I'm like, you

know, whatever it is.

894

:

If that leads you down a path of

depression or despair or anxiety or

895

:

fear, We know right away that the, the,

the root of that is not from Christ.

896

:

And so it's just taking that

time to be able to discern like,

897

:

what are these limiting beliefs?

898

:

So I talk about limiting beliefs in my

program and I call them muddy puddles.

899

:

So they're like muddy puddles, right?

900

:

And you have to learn to

walk around the muddy puddle.

901

:

You have to like, see

it like, Oh, I see you.

902

:

I see you.

903

:

I see that you want to tell me that,

Oh, this always happens to me, right?

904

:

But it doesn't.

905

:

It doesn't.

906

:

And I'm going to choose not to get

into your mess and you walk around

907

:

it, you choose a different path.

908

:

So you choose to replace that limiting

belief with an empowering belief,

909

:

one that's also based in truth,

but it leads you to positivity.

910

:

It leads you to an empower belief of

that is hopeful and full of truth.

911

:

And so that's, you just have

to start changing them out.

912

:

I didn't encourage you for anybody

listening to to take some time

913

:

and either on your phone and your

notes or something, but create

914

:

like a locked note for yourself.

915

:

And anytime you have a

limiting belief, write that.

916

:

Piece of junk in there and then

later go back and be like I need to

917

:

reword this I have to reword this

918

:

and

919

:

Mari Wagner: you know I think any

anybody who's a mom knows this when

920

:

you have little kids and They start

talking and they start having ideas

921

:

about themselves and the first time

you hear them say something that's like

922

:

a limiting belief You're like what?

923

:

Like what?

924

:

Yes, you can do this Of

course you can do this.

925

:

You know, and then you hear these little

kids, and they say these things like, Oh,

926

:

I'm never ever going to be good at this.

927

:

I always screw up.

928

:

I am the worst.

929

:

Nobody likes me.

930

:

I'm never going to have friends.

931

:

And they say these different phrases,

and it's a really good reminder.

932

:

I know as me as a mom, it's

taught me that limiting beliefs

933

:

don't just start in adulthood.

934

:

They start when we're really young.

935

:

And there was probably a trigger

to those limiting beliefs.

936

:

And if you can figure out those triggers,

you might, you might start engaging in

937

:

some really amazing and deep healing

where you can let go and you can forgive.

938

:

And even if it's forgiving yourself

for holding onto that limiting belief

939

:

for so long, even, even if sometimes

those limiting beliefs are given to us.

940

:

Like we didn't create it.

941

:

And so that's like a really hard thing,

especially when we might've be raised,

942

:

we might've been raised in an environment

where limiting beliefs were just the norm.

943

:

Sarcasm was the norm.

944

:

And if that's the case, there could

be a lot of limiting beliefs that

945

:

are actually holding you back.

946

:

And setting out your future in

front of you in a place where you

947

:

really don't want to go anymore.

948

:

So doing a little bit of work,

and it's, it's not a, it's

949

:

not easy and it's not quick.

950

:

That's one thing I will say,

like personal development work is

951

:

something where it's a constant thing.

952

:

You can learn the tools and the skills.

953

:

relatively quickly, you

have to apply them daily.

954

:

So what happens inside the brain,

this is like the neuropsychology

955

:

part of it, um, of limiting beliefs

is that these, these beliefs become,

956

:

they become grooves in your brain.

957

:

And those grooves, the more that you

say it, the more that you think it, and

958

:

then the more that you act on it, they

become deeper and deeper in your brain.

959

:

And then they get triggered quite

easily with any type of experience.

960

:

And then you start, you just, it just

drives like right into that groove.

961

:

Like, you know, you say that one

thing and you feel that thing and

962

:

then you do that thing, right?

963

:

So to change it up, you have to layer

those grooves with that empowering

964

:

belief over and over and over.

965

:

And it's a habit you have to create, but

once you start creating it, something will

966

:

trigger you and you'll start, Oh, going

up to that new level of that new groove.

967

:

And you'll start doing that.

968

:

But they show this, um, In

neuropsychology, research, and

969

:

science, it's really amazing.

970

:

So it's true, God's made our brains

to work with Him and not against Him.

971

:

That is amazing.

972

:

That reminds me, I've, I've been doing

this Bible study with my friends,

973

:

and one of the things of the Bible

study, one of the things that they,

974

:

like, ask you to do is to start

doing, like, Biblical declarations.

975

:

And that was something I had never

really done in my life before.

976

:

And actually, It was something that I kind

of like, kind of laughed at a little bit.

977

:

I was like, Oh, wow, that

really works for people.

978

:

Like seeing all those like positive

thoughts, like, does that really work?

979

:

And you know, and like girls would

like put the scripture verse on their

980

:

mirror and like say it in the morning

and be like, I'm empowering myself.

981

:

And I was always kind of like, Hmm, that

might work for them, but I don't know

982

:

if that would be powerful enough for me.

983

:

And I, I just never really tried it.

984

:

And just recently in this Bible

study, it came up and we all did it.

985

:

All the girls in the group, we like,

we wrote it down and put it on our

986

:

mirror or on our phone or whatever.

987

:

And I just really underestimated

like the power of the word.

988

:

Okay.

989

:

Like this wasn't just like

a Pinterest, like, you know,

990

:

happy quote that I found online.

991

:

It's like, no, we're using like

the Lord's word in scripture, which

992

:

like, is like a sword in battle.

993

:

And in those moments where I was

experiencing like fear or nervousness

994

:

or anxiety, and like, I would start to

say this scripture verse that I, that I

995

:

memorized, that was like my declaration.

996

:

It was like, Physically different,

you know, like a piece wash over me

997

:

a strength, like a confidence, like

all of a sudden I'm like, no, like

998

:

I can do all things through Christ.

999

:

You strengthen to me like it's him.

:

00:50:45,327 --> 00:50:45,947

It's not me.

:

00:50:45,967 --> 00:50:49,927

So that just reminded me of that because

I love how you're, you're phrasing

:

00:50:49,927 --> 00:50:51,777

like, okay, take that limiting belief.

:

00:50:52,237 --> 00:50:56,197

Let's rephrase that what is the truth

that the Lord would say to that and

:

00:50:56,197 --> 00:50:58,397

like you called it the grooves, right?

:

00:50:58,397 --> 00:51:02,657

Like you get into a new groove a

new standard, but it takes practice

:

00:51:02,677 --> 00:51:06,927

and it takes Repetitiveness of like

actually seeing that and believing

:

00:51:06,927 --> 00:51:08,777

that because I was listening.

:

00:51:08,777 --> 00:51:12,172

Maybe it was a Recent podcast of yours

or something like 80 percent of the

:

00:51:12,172 --> 00:51:17,522

thoughts we hear in our head or yeah

are negative What negative it does take

:

00:51:17,562 --> 00:51:21,762

and we have practice and like repeating

those positive ones over and over again

:

00:51:21,762 --> 00:51:28,657

to retrain our brain To know what the

truth is Yeah, we have, we about, we

:

00:51:28,657 --> 00:51:34,267

have around average 60, 000 thoughts

a day and 80 percent are negative.

:

00:51:34,327 --> 00:51:36,077

This is in general for most people.

:

00:51:36,957 --> 00:51:37,927

You want to know why?

:

00:51:37,957 --> 00:51:40,557

Like, I don't say you want to know why,

like this is the only answer, but like,

:

00:51:40,607 --> 00:51:44,757

uh, if you find trouble in your life,

it could just be your thought light.

:

00:51:44,767 --> 00:51:49,437

Like our, the quality of our life is

determined by the quality of our thoughts.

:

00:51:50,817 --> 00:51:53,487

Bottom line, the quality of

your life is determined by

:

00:51:53,497 --> 00:51:54,637

the quality of your thoughts.

:

00:51:55,157 --> 00:52:00,337

And if our thoughts are not on truth, if

they're not on the things that are above,

:

00:52:00,347 --> 00:52:06,817

the things that are good, true, and holy,

then your life will be affected by that.

:

00:52:07,267 --> 00:52:11,442

And the language you use, the language,

oh my gosh, I have, uh, Mari, I have

:

00:52:11,442 --> 00:52:15,022

a whole, like, section on language

and I love that session so much

:

00:52:15,022 --> 00:52:18,942

in Power Made Perfect because it's

like, people, your language matters.

:

00:52:18,972 --> 00:52:21,972

If you walk around, when

everybody asks you, how are you?

:

00:52:21,972 --> 00:52:22,862

You're like, I'm fine.

:

00:52:23,282 --> 00:52:24,012

Um, I'm good.

:

00:52:24,012 --> 00:52:24,502

I'm fine.

:

00:52:24,522 --> 00:52:27,272

If you use fine for everything,

like, you'll have a fine life.

:

00:52:27,442 --> 00:52:28,622

Who wants a fine life?

:

00:52:28,662 --> 00:52:29,992

I want a magnificent life.

:

00:52:30,042 --> 00:52:32,437

I want like a, Extraordinary life.

:

00:52:32,777 --> 00:52:36,657

I want a life where I can just

give all of this joy and energy

:

00:52:36,657 --> 00:52:38,417

to my children and my family.

:

00:52:38,427 --> 00:52:39,987

Like, that's the life that I want.

:

00:52:41,147 --> 00:52:42,597

Then I have to change my words.

:

00:52:42,627 --> 00:52:48,477

If I'm using fine all the time, or if I'm,

if I describe all of my feelings as fine,

:

00:52:48,717 --> 00:52:50,617

or if my husband says, Hey, what's wrong?

:

00:52:50,787 --> 00:52:51,317

I'm fine.

:

00:52:51,737 --> 00:52:52,187

I'm fine.

:

00:52:53,187 --> 00:52:54,547

Oh, you're not fine.

:

00:52:55,307 --> 00:52:56,447

You're not fine at all.

:

00:52:56,507 --> 00:52:57,337

And we all know that.

:

00:52:57,337 --> 00:52:58,647

Like, it's a funny little thing.

:

00:52:58,657 --> 00:52:59,407

Like, oh, no, I'm fine.

:

00:52:59,447 --> 00:52:59,697

I'm fine.

:

00:52:59,707 --> 00:53:00,327

It's fine.

:

00:53:00,467 --> 00:53:01,137

Everything's fine.

:

00:53:02,617 --> 00:53:05,327

I know for humor, it's funny to laugh at.

:

00:53:05,327 --> 00:53:08,747

But the reality is, is that

your life is not a comedy show.

:

00:53:09,437 --> 00:53:12,827

You've got one life to live and you

don't know when you are going out.

:

00:53:13,357 --> 00:53:14,667

We don't know the last day.

:

00:53:15,642 --> 00:53:16,792

We don't know the last minute.

:

00:53:17,012 --> 00:53:18,262

We don't know the last breath.

:

00:53:18,902 --> 00:53:21,562

Every thought, every

word is accounted for.

:

00:53:22,102 --> 00:53:26,302

And like you said, like these

declarations, yes, spiritual affirmations

:

00:53:26,542 --> 00:53:29,222

are so beneficial, so beneficial.

:

00:53:29,222 --> 00:53:32,232

And, um, I'll give you the link

if you want to give it to people,

:

00:53:32,232 --> 00:53:35,202

but on my website, I have a whole

free download of script, scripture

:

00:53:35,202 --> 00:53:38,492

affirmations that you can take.

:

00:53:38,967 --> 00:53:42,627

These are so wonderful and it shows

you the scripture right next to it.

:

00:53:42,997 --> 00:53:46,687

And these are just affirmations you

can say because they're based in truth.

:

00:53:46,717 --> 00:53:50,842

I mean, if the word of God

literally created Our world,

:

00:53:51,212 --> 00:53:52,912

what could it create in you?

:

00:53:53,242 --> 00:53:58,832

If you took on the word of God and

began to say this, um, one of my

:

00:53:58,832 --> 00:54:03,622

deck, my declarations or spiritual

affirmations is, um, everything

:

00:54:03,622 --> 00:54:04,722

is always working out for us.

:

00:54:04,832 --> 00:54:05,192

That is.

:

00:54:05,702 --> 00:54:06,322

That's what I say.

:

00:54:06,932 --> 00:54:08,142

It's from Romans 8 28.

:

00:54:08,892 --> 00:54:10,222

Everything is always working out for us.

:

00:54:10,442 --> 00:54:14,212

I have said this at the best of

moments of my life when I'm like, Oh,

:

00:54:14,812 --> 00:54:16,262

everything is always working out for us.

:

00:54:16,262 --> 00:54:17,082

Like, it's so clear.

:

00:54:17,082 --> 00:54:17,812

Like, look at this.

:

00:54:18,262 --> 00:54:18,412

It's happening.

:

00:54:18,752 --> 00:54:19,942

You know, everything is

always working out for us.

:

00:54:20,512 --> 00:54:24,802

Um, I've said this during

days when I'm exhausted.

:

00:54:25,312 --> 00:54:27,642

I have no more energy

for anything or anybody.

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00:54:28,787 --> 00:54:30,047

And then I have to go do something else.

:

00:54:30,047 --> 00:54:32,297

You know, like everything is

always working out for us.

:

00:54:32,317 --> 00:54:35,347

I've said this at the graveside

of my daughters that I've buried.

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00:54:35,757 --> 00:54:37,017

Everything is always working out for us.

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00:54:37,647 --> 00:54:43,397

It's when you, when God will lead

you to something that he wants

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00:54:43,397 --> 00:54:45,097

you to hold on to with his word.

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00:54:45,237 --> 00:54:49,297

And when you, when you do, when you hold

onto it, it's not become like the, you

:

00:54:49,297 --> 00:54:53,127

know, mantra or declaration, whatever you

want to call it, of our entire family.

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00:54:53,477 --> 00:54:58,847

Our entire family says this, I mean,

um, dozens a time a day, honest to God.

:

00:54:58,867 --> 00:55:02,797

Like it's something that mindset

work is so big for me and my family

:

00:55:02,797 --> 00:55:04,657

with my kids and my husband too.

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00:55:04,687 --> 00:55:08,877

Like we all work on it because

the enemy is here to attack us.

:

00:55:09,392 --> 00:55:11,612

Um, and mind, spirit, and body.

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00:55:11,902 --> 00:55:16,622

And we have to begin to do the

work to protect ourselves so

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00:55:16,622 --> 00:55:19,552

that we can do God's work and be

a part of that mission for him.

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00:55:19,972 --> 00:55:24,652

So yeah, I love all the things with

script like scripture affirmation.

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00:55:24,652 --> 00:55:25,332

It's so good.

:

00:55:25,382 --> 00:55:25,782

I love it.

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00:55:25,782 --> 00:55:28,772

I'm definitely going to go check out

that download and we'll make sure to put

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00:55:28,772 --> 00:55:32,172

the link in the show notes too so people

can check that out because it has been

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00:55:32,172 --> 00:55:33,872

transformational in my life as well.

:

00:55:34,652 --> 00:55:38,492

Um, so good before we wrap up, I

want to touch on one last thing.

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00:55:38,812 --> 00:55:44,032

Your message of babies and dreams, I think

is one that our world needs to hear today.

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And women, especially, um, I

was a focus missionary for a

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00:55:47,902 --> 00:55:49,372

few years on the college campus.

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00:55:49,382 --> 00:55:53,792

And so I walked with women for a few years

and they were trying to live their faith.

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00:55:53,792 --> 00:55:56,752

And they also, a lot of them

were very career driven as well.

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00:55:56,752 --> 00:55:59,982

And they also had these dreams

of being wives and mothers.

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And it is.

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00:56:00,882 --> 00:56:04,642

So beautiful to see women with dreams

and like I said in the beginning like I

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00:56:04,642 --> 00:56:08,432

feel like the lord has just placed This

beauty on our hearts as women to like

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00:56:09,182 --> 00:56:13,062

like fulfill, you know, like fulfill

this call and to be great and to be

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00:56:13,062 --> 00:56:18,382

beautiful Um, and I think women are

getting conflicting messages and we know

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00:56:18,382 --> 00:56:21,422

this is true It's not even I think like

I know women are getting conflicting

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00:56:21,422 --> 00:56:26,042

messages both from secular sides and

even From some circles in the catholic

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00:56:26,042 --> 00:56:30,937

world, you know In the secular side you

see like Oh, like you have to climb the

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00:56:30,937 --> 00:56:35,077

corporate ladder to be successful or

like motherhood is unimportant and like,

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00:56:35,087 --> 00:56:36,777

that's not what your focus should be.

:

00:56:37,087 --> 00:56:39,947

And then sometimes even in some

Catholic circles, it's like, you

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00:56:39,947 --> 00:56:41,397

should just be a stay at home mom.

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00:56:41,397 --> 00:56:43,157

And like, you don't need a career.

:

00:56:43,157 --> 00:56:46,437

And like, you know, those dreams that

you have for your job, like are not good.

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00:56:46,467 --> 00:56:48,107

Like you just need to be

at home with the kids.

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00:56:48,107 --> 00:56:52,057

So, um, what advice or like what

words of wisdom would you have to

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00:56:52,057 --> 00:56:56,427

say with women who kind of like feel

this pull of both and just are lost

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00:56:56,437 --> 00:56:58,077

in the midst of all these messages?

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00:56:59,187 --> 00:56:59,657

Yeah.

:

00:56:59,727 --> 00:57:04,687

So this is, it's, it's slightly,

it's a slightly nuanced conversation,

:

00:57:04,687 --> 00:57:07,867

so it's not, um, it's not so easy.

:

00:57:07,987 --> 00:57:14,897

It's not going to be a 15 second clip on

social that's going to solve this debate

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00:57:15,007 --> 00:57:16,827

as much as some would like it to be.

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00:57:17,387 --> 00:57:21,837

Um, but yeah, I, I, what, as you know,

I 100 percent stand behind babies and

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00:57:21,837 --> 00:57:25,447

dreams and I will to the end, to the,

to the day I die, God love me, God

:

00:57:25,447 --> 00:57:26,817

forgive me for it, but that's what I do.

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00:57:27,167 --> 00:57:30,697

Um, so one.

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00:57:31,167 --> 00:57:35,357

What can women do when they're hearing

these conflicting messages, especially if

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00:57:35,357 --> 00:57:39,667

you are in a position where you haven't

entered into either one of these things?

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00:57:40,377 --> 00:57:40,927

Um,

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00:57:41,917 --> 00:57:43,247

Leah Darrow: Stop

listening to other people.

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00:57:44,467 --> 00:57:46,267

Stop listening to other people.

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00:57:47,697 --> 00:57:50,707

Listen to your heart and to

what God's calling you to.

:

00:57:50,717 --> 00:57:55,877

Like, if it's so, even if it's

so scary to submit to what God's

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00:57:55,937 --> 00:57:58,447

asking of you, listen to Him.

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00:57:58,657 --> 00:57:59,737

What is He calling you to?

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00:58:01,207 --> 00:58:06,477

I will say of, of the two,

you'll never regret motherhood.

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00:58:06,477 --> 00:58:07,970

You could regret the career.

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00:58:07,970 --> 00:58:08,567

Mm hmm.

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00:58:11,727 --> 00:58:13,317

But you'll never regret that one.

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00:58:14,627 --> 00:58:19,757

It's one that you want to

prioritize above all and go for.

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00:58:20,247 --> 00:58:21,937

You don't want to put off thinking, ah,

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00:58:22,197 --> 00:58:22,997

I'll do it later.

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00:58:24,477 --> 00:58:26,397

Mari Wagner: Yeah, you

don't know if you can.

:

00:58:27,417 --> 00:58:30,707

Or, or what you're doing,

because it's not just you.

:

00:58:30,707 --> 00:58:35,337

I mean, marriage and children

don't just involve you.

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00:58:35,347 --> 00:58:35,557

They

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00:58:35,557 --> 00:58:42,467

Leah Darrow: involve a lot of other people

and that's why I would prioritize that,

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00:58:43,287 --> 00:58:48,237

for sure, for somebody who is not

sure if they should go, like, should

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00:58:48,237 --> 00:58:50,777

I start a family now, or should

I, should I, like, make that the

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00:58:50,777 --> 00:58:52,507

priority now is to get married?

:

00:58:53,047 --> 00:58:57,057

I mean, if, generally speaking, I'd

say, yeah, yeah, I think you should.

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00:58:57,462 --> 00:58:58,062

I think you should.

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00:58:58,822 --> 00:58:59,212

I do.

:

00:59:00,352 --> 00:59:07,632

If God calls you into space, we're

also, he's asking and presenting you

:

00:59:07,632 --> 00:59:11,442

opportunities that again, don't conflict

with his 10 commandments and don't

:

00:59:11,472 --> 00:59:16,242

conflict with your vocation, but could

even potentially help it or support it.

:

00:59:16,657 --> 00:59:22,277

In a way, that's when you're like,

okay, maybe, maybe this could

:

00:59:22,277 --> 00:59:24,087

work out and can it work out?

:

00:59:24,117 --> 00:59:24,617

Yes.

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00:59:25,217 --> 00:59:26,517

Is it balanced perfectly?

:

00:59:26,927 --> 00:59:28,997

No, not at all.

:

00:59:29,387 --> 00:59:31,257

You don't do a hundred percent of both.

:

00:59:31,757 --> 00:59:35,217

Um, there have been moments of my

business where I've given more time

:

00:59:35,217 --> 00:59:39,027

to the business in these short moments

and these short sprints that are

:

00:59:39,107 --> 00:59:40,797

carefully planned out with my spouse.

:

00:59:41,732 --> 00:59:47,022

Um, most of the time my business gets a

lot less of me than I give to my family.

:

00:59:47,462 --> 00:59:49,762

Rightly so, because

that's the right order.

:

00:59:49,762 --> 00:59:50,052

Yeah.

:

00:59:50,432 --> 00:59:53,692

But I'm still able to do the things that

I do and I've learned a lot of things.

:

00:59:54,122 --> 00:59:58,682

And this is what I do in my business

coaching is I help other women save time,

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00:59:58,872 --> 01:00:03,752

effort and money to do them effectively,

but not take forever to do them.

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01:00:05,332 --> 01:00:11,422

And you know, it's just, Mari, it's

one of those things where, You never

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01:00:11,422 --> 01:00:13,762

want to put a baby over a dream, right?

:

01:00:13,772 --> 01:00:14,592

That's not everywhere.

:

01:00:14,912 --> 01:00:15,922

That's not what I talk about.

:

01:00:15,922 --> 01:00:20,012

That's not what I do

whatsoever, but to say that.

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01:00:21,722 --> 01:00:25,912

to say that the baby is the only thing

that the only dream you can have and

:

01:00:25,912 --> 01:00:31,022

the only thing that you can do just

like whoever saying that is somebody

:

01:00:31,022 --> 01:00:35,992

else it's not god like keep in mind you

need to be talking to god you need to be

:

01:00:35,992 --> 01:00:40,692

praying and having good spiritual counsel

i think there's also something here we

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01:00:40,692 --> 01:00:44,282

have to talk about or at least mention

and i think it's really important to

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01:00:44,282 --> 01:00:49,422

mention this because this gets overlooked

a lot there are a lot of women that i

:

01:00:49,422 --> 01:00:55,737

work with In the business coaching side

of my business that have to have kids.

:

01:00:56,207 --> 01:01:00,027

Um, some of them are married,

some of them are not.

:

01:01:01,637 --> 01:01:05,087

And they would give their right

arm to stay at home with their

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01:01:05,087 --> 01:01:06,147

kids and be a full time mom.

:

01:01:06,157 --> 01:01:06,537

Yeah.

:

01:01:07,162 --> 01:01:09,412

They would do anything,

anything in the world.

:

01:01:09,412 --> 01:01:14,042

Like it makes me tear up because they

would do anything in the world to do

:

01:01:14,042 --> 01:01:20,332

that full time job of those stay at

home moms that want to bring their pitch

:

01:01:20,342 --> 01:01:25,192

forks and their fire and to burn down

everybody who says babies and dreams.

:

01:01:25,642 --> 01:01:29,522

They would love your life as life has it.

:

01:01:29,862 --> 01:01:30,692

Their husband died.

:

01:01:31,242 --> 01:01:34,782

Or they're divorced or they're

separated or they never got

:

01:01:34,782 --> 01:01:37,002

married and it didn't work out.

:

01:01:37,032 --> 01:01:39,692

And now they're in a position

where they're like, I have

:

01:01:39,782 --> 01:01:41,702

these babies or a baby.

:

01:01:41,792 --> 01:01:45,122

And I have now, I have

to work to support them.

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01:01:45,562 --> 01:01:48,102

And they'll come to me like, Leah, can

you help me so I can make more money in

:

01:01:48,102 --> 01:01:52,512

my business to create more leverage so

that I can provide a little bit more.

:

01:01:52,902 --> 01:01:53,572

And you know what?

:

01:01:53,632 --> 01:01:55,957

I'm like, I'm your coach.

:

01:01:55,977 --> 01:01:56,667

Let's go.

:

01:01:56,707 --> 01:01:57,407

Let's do it.

:

01:01:57,417 --> 01:01:57,597

Right.

:

01:01:57,827 --> 01:02:00,887

I'd be happy to help you

because we don't know.

:

01:02:01,407 --> 01:02:05,447

We don't know the backstory to all of

these other moms who are working like

:

01:02:05,727 --> 01:02:10,797

to say that just because a mom works

that she's neglecting family or her

:

01:02:10,797 --> 01:02:14,407

vocation or God's call is just asinine.

:

01:02:14,427 --> 01:02:16,857

Yeah, it's just completely unfair.

:

01:02:16,857 --> 01:02:18,277

You don't know the background.

:

01:02:18,587 --> 01:02:19,987

You don't know the bank accounts.

:

01:02:20,257 --> 01:02:24,007

You don't know the desperation that

some of them are Are facing and

:

01:02:24,007 --> 01:02:26,857

wall and some of them are working

to get out of the workforce.

:

01:02:26,877 --> 01:02:29,177

They're like, I'm doing this

so I can actually leave.

:

01:02:29,577 --> 01:02:31,917

But for the next five years,

I have to be in the space.

:

01:02:32,247 --> 01:02:33,447

I don't know another way.

:

01:02:33,857 --> 01:02:36,047

I can't see another way out

other than I have to stay in

:

01:02:36,047 --> 01:02:39,577

this job and work or do have this

business or run my online course.

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01:02:39,887 --> 01:02:40,217

So.

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01:02:41,562 --> 01:02:44,252

I just think that that needs to be said

when we talk about babies and dreams,

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01:02:44,252 --> 01:02:47,322

and I haven't actually ever had the

chance to even say this, even on my own

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01:02:47,332 --> 01:02:51,612

podcast yet, so thank you for giving me

time to say it here, because there's a

:

01:02:51,612 --> 01:02:57,072

lot of ladies out there who are trying

to keep it together, and we don't need

:

01:02:57,072 --> 01:03:01,732

to be beating them down because we think

that our dream should be their dream, or

:

01:03:01,762 --> 01:03:06,602

our life should be their life, because

you don't know the cross people carry.

:

01:03:07,197 --> 01:03:13,597

You just don't and God's made

us amazing and good And he wants

:

01:03:13,597 --> 01:03:17,047

to accomplish so much more in

us than we even will allow him.

:

01:03:17,057 --> 01:03:21,037

Yeah So it's just kind of letting him

allow allowing God to fulfill all the

:

01:03:21,037 --> 01:03:24,627

dreams He has for you in your life

because there's more than just one friends

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01:03:25,037 --> 01:03:26,167

I promise you there's more than one.

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01:03:26,277 --> 01:03:27,347

No, I love that.

:

01:03:27,697 --> 01:03:28,487

Absolutely.

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01:03:28,487 --> 01:03:32,647

And I think, yeah, if you've, if you're

listening and you feel yourself at a

:

01:03:32,647 --> 01:03:36,957

crossroads of, you know, I have to pick

one or, you know, I don't know yet what

:

01:03:36,957 --> 01:03:40,407

the Lord is calling me to obviously apply

all the amazing tips we've heard today.

:

01:03:40,407 --> 01:03:43,867

But I think what I've learned in my

life is that it really comes down to

:

01:03:43,867 --> 01:03:50,267

surrender and it really comes down

to the Lord's plan over mine and how

:

01:03:50,267 --> 01:03:51,877

his plan is always better than mine.

:

01:03:51,887 --> 01:03:56,292

Even Even if I thought mine was great

and I had my life perfectly planned

:

01:03:56,292 --> 01:03:59,892

out and at this age, I would do this

and this and this and then you get

:

01:03:59,892 --> 01:04:03,062

there and the Lord shows you like,

yeah, that was, that was a good idea,

:

01:04:03,142 --> 01:04:05,572

but I have a better one, actually.

:

01:04:05,922 --> 01:04:09,682

Um, and those things will

come to fruition with a full.

:

01:04:09,932 --> 01:04:13,722

Full heart of surrender, whether that's,

you know, stay at home motherhood or

:

01:04:13,732 --> 01:04:18,292

being a mother at all or achieving this

big dream or getting your business out

:

01:04:18,292 --> 01:04:20,471

or whatever it is that is on your heart.

:

01:04:20,471 --> 01:04:24,442

I think ultimately I want people to

walk away knowing like, yes, like you

:

01:04:24,442 --> 01:04:26,012

can reach your God given potential.

:

01:04:26,012 --> 01:04:27,562

You can reach all these dreams.

:

01:04:27,952 --> 01:04:29,087

But with that.

:

01:04:29,377 --> 01:04:34,217

Always keep a spirit of surrender and

like, like a hands open posture, you know,

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01:04:34,217 --> 01:04:38,647

of like, Lord, like whatever it is, like I

give you my life and I'm ready to receive

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01:04:38,677 --> 01:04:40,257

like whatever it is that you have for me.

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01:04:42,717 --> 01:04:43,167

I love that.

:

01:04:43,167 --> 01:04:44,027

That's so good.

:

01:04:44,037 --> 01:04:45,737

Yes, yes, absolutely.

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01:04:45,857 --> 01:04:47,757

I mean, I, I can't say anything to that.

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01:04:47,917 --> 01:04:48,487

It's so perfect.

:

01:04:48,557 --> 01:04:49,377

Well, thank you, Leah.

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01:04:49,377 --> 01:04:52,267

This has been such a beautiful

and inspiring conversation.

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01:04:52,267 --> 01:04:54,277

I know so many women are

going to be blessed by it.

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01:04:54,687 --> 01:04:58,117

Uh, where can people find

you and learn more about you?

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01:04:59,917 --> 01:05:02,167

Yeah, you can just find me

on my website leahdarrow.

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01:05:02,187 --> 01:05:02,607

com.

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01:05:02,647 --> 01:05:06,397

I'm on all the social things So if you

need a DM me or whatever feel free to

:

01:05:06,397 --> 01:05:09,387

shoot me a DM if there's something in

particular that I've said that you want

:

01:05:09,387 --> 01:05:13,327

more information on just feel free again

to look at my podcast my website or shoot

:

01:05:13,327 --> 01:05:17,777

me a DM because I will be happy to guide

you in a direction that can give you

:

01:05:17,777 --> 01:05:24,007

more information and If anything just

you know Stop listening to the clowns

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01:05:24,137 --> 01:05:27,827

like, you know, like there's always gonna

be clowns in this world who are just

:

01:05:27,827 --> 01:05:32,567

going to be Spitting out clown energy

and to stay away from those people,

:

01:05:32,997 --> 01:05:39,187

like start, start creating a group

of winners around you, like a players

:

01:05:39,217 --> 01:05:44,707

around you who want God at the center of

their life and they want to go for it.

:

01:05:44,747 --> 01:05:46,247

They want to take massive action.

:

01:05:46,257 --> 01:05:49,527

They want to do good things and

they want to accomplish greatness.

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01:05:49,527 --> 01:05:51,727

Like that's what, that's

where you need to be friends.

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01:05:52,187 --> 01:05:53,717

Yeah, absolutely.

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01:05:54,107 --> 01:05:56,677

I'm like clapping, snapping

everything over here.

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01:05:57,557 --> 01:05:58,037

Okay.

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01:05:58,037 --> 01:05:59,907

That is all we have for you guys today.

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01:05:59,917 --> 01:06:00,917

Thanks so much, Leah.

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01:06:01,117 --> 01:06:01,547

You're welcome.

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01:06:01,547 --> 01:06:02,267

Thanks for having me.

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The Ever Be Podcast is a faith and lifestyle podcast filled with meaningful conversations and practical tips that will inspire and empower you to live a Christ centered life in today’s modern world. Through her own experience of surrendering completely to God and finding true fullness of life, your host Mari Wagner, has committed to having God’s praise “ever be” on her lips and sharing that message with the world. Listen in for insightful, real life conversations and actionable steps on how to claim the full life God created you for.

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Finally! Answers to questions you’ve been asking like:
How do I infuse prayer into my daily life? How do I live out my Catholic faith? What is the best dating and marriage advice? What does a good Catholic marriage look like? How do I grow in homemaking skills and build a domestic church? How do I create a beautiful and welcoming home? What does a healthy and balanced lifestyle look like? Is it possible to find a solid community of like minded women?

Host Mari Wagner covers topics that you actually care about from faith life, to relationships and marriage, to homemaking, to healthy living. Each episode is crafted to resonate with your challenges and aspirations as a modern Christian woman seeking purpose, balance, and joy.

Tune into the Ever Be Podcast for valuable advice, relatable stories, expert insights and just some fun girl chats with someone who really gets you. Hit play to get out of the rut you constantly feel yourself in, and subscribe to join the community and experience the fullness of life Jesus has in store for you.

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Mari Wagner