Episode 85

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4th Feb 2026

85: Planning a Wedding | Avery from Cana Wedding Co

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Join host Mari on as she delves into the world of wedding planning with guest Avery from Cana Wedding Co. They discuss the unique aspects of planning a Catholic wedding, balancing faith and celebration, and practical advice for brides-to-be. Avery shares her personal journey, tips on managing family expectations, and the importance of focusing on the sacrament of marriage. Tune in for insightful conversations, Ever Be moments, and valuable wedding planning tips for a stress-free and faith-centered big day.

00:00 Welcome to The Ever Be Podcast

01:23 Ever Be Moments

05:44 Diving into Wedding Planning

09:36 Balancing Wedding Planning and Faith

17:20 Engagement Realities: Managing Stress and Expectations

21:56 Early Wedding Planning Tips

26:36 Setting Wedding Priorities

29:35 Common Planning Mistakes

35:24 Navigating Family Opinions

40:57 Importance of a Well-Built Timeline

45:56 The Value of a Wedding Planner

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Transcript
Speaker:

Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,

and you're listening to The Ever Be

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Podcast where Faith Meets Lifestyle.

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I'm so excited you're here.

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Whether you're a new listener

or a longtime follower, I know

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there's something here for you.

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Pull up a chair and listen in for

insightful, real life conversations and

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actionable steps on how to claim the.

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Full life God created you for.

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If you're a woman desiring to live

a Christ-centered life in today's

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modern world, then this is for you.

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Welcome to ever be.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204:

Welcome back to Ever Be Everybody.

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Today we have Avery on the podcast

and we're gonna get into all things

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wedding planning, specifically

planning a Catholic wedding.

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'cause I know a lot of you gals, um,

really are excited about bringing the

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faith into your big day in some way.

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And so we're gonna get

into all the things.

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Um, Avery, you can , go ahead

and say hi to our listeners.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: am Avery.

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I'm the owner and lead

planner at Cana Wedding Co.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Amazing.

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Which by the way, if you don't follow

her on Instagram, she has a gorgeous

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feed and it's just everything she posts

is so aesthetic and so beautiful to see.

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So definitely a follow

that you should go do.

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Um, but let's get into our ever be

moments first before we dive into

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the discussion of wedding planning.

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And everything so ever Be Moments is

a segment where we get to glorify God.

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It comes from this song called

Ever Be Where it says, may the

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Lord's Praise Ever be on my lips.

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And so this is a time for us to just

share how God's working in our life.

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So do you have an ever be moment lately

in your life that you wanna share?

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: would love to.

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I guess it was like two weeks ago now.

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We, um, we were getting a big

snowstorm here on the East coast.

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There's still ice outside from it.

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Um, but we ended up

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: to

a Saturday night vigil mass,

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um, that we don't typically do.

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We have two little kids, my husband

and I, and so the evening slot is not.

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Typically our best time slot, but

we were supposed to be getting like

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a foot of snow between, you know,

Saturday night and Sunday morning.

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Um, and so we ended up going to a

different church than we typically go to.

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Um, we were a little

flustered getting in the door.

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We're in the newborn days with

my daughter, so, um, we're,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: we're in it.

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It's great.

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But, you know, we pulled up and

realized she like needed a diaper

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change and she had to eat that

instant and, you know, the joys.

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Um, but we got in the

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: and.

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I thought it was so funny.

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I was like very flustered getting

in, like I was just saying.

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But we got in the door and I felt such a

like, peace and a joy and it was so funny.

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I'm like, you know, waiting in line

for the, for the restroom stall to like

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change her diaper and all these things.

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Um, and I realized that the last

time I'd been at that church was

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actually for a client's wedding.

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Um, and I was like seven weeks

pregnant with our daughter.

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Um, and at the time I was

having a really rough pregnancy.

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I had like.

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A lot of health issues going on.

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No one could really

figure out what it was.

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Um, and it was a lot of just

like, okay, well you're only

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like seven weeks pregnant, so we

just have to like wait and see.

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And they were throwing around lots

of scary terms and crazy things.

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And we were just in like a deep

season of like surrendering our family

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to whatever the Lord's plan was.

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Um, and so.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Like last

time I was there, it was literally,

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you know, I was at the doctor that

morning of their church rehearsal, um,

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and then went up and had their wedding.

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It was lovely and beautiful, but there

was so much chaos going on in our lives.

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Um, and then we were like.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: with her

and like she's happy and healthy and

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it was just like such a beautiful, like

full circle moment, especially because

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we don't go to this church often.

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Um, and yeah, it was just like so lovely

and such a, like testament to like the

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Lord's faithfulness for our family too.

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So it was, it was lovely.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204:

That is so beautiful.

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I bet.

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Yeah.

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Having that realization when you

were back in that church was just

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like such a gift to be like, wow.

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Yeah.

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Like I'm in the throes of it, but like,

she's here, she's healthy, we're good.

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Like we made it like, thank you, Jesus.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: so lovely.

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Yeah.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: So good.

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Okay.

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Well, my ever be moment, I last

weekend, spent the weekend at a girl's

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like weekend up in the mountains.

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We did a cabin crafting weekend,

so we just like all brought a craft

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and um, hung out and had girl time.

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But everybody is Catholic,

uh, or Christian.

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And we prayed a rosary together and

um, one of the gals recommended that

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we pray a rosary without distractions,

which I had never heard of.

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It's like a specific type of rosary,

and basically it walks you through the.

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Whole mystery, like line by line so

that you can actually meditate with the

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mystery throughout the entire decade

instead of just say it at the beginning.

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And I mean, I experienced this so much I

feel like a lot of us do, where we just

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kind of like forget to keep meditating

on the mystery or like it's hard.

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To do that while you're in the

middle of all the Hail Marys.

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So you would say Hail Mary in the decade.

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And she would say like, one

line, and there's like a written,

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it's all written like online.

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So she would say like one line, um,

that like builds upon each other,

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um, and builds upon the story of

that mystery, which was so beautiful.

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And I definitely wanna pray it again.

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So,

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: so funny

you mention that because I saw you post

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that on Instagram and literally opened

the link and texted it to my husband

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and I was like, we need to do this.

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Like this is something I

need for my faith life.

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Especially like I was saying, I'm in

like newborn days, so my brain is like

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barely functioning half the time and it's

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: You

like mentioned it again and I'm

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like, yes, I need to do that too.

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I definitely need to need to do it.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204:

Yeah, do it.

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And then after you do it, DM me,

tell me what your experience was.

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'cause I, I definitely

wanna like do it again.

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So Good.

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Alright, let's dive into our questions.

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So you mentioned that you're

the owner of Cana Wedding Co,

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which is a wedding planning.

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Business.

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Tell us a little bit just

how did that even come to be?

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How did you get started?

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Where did this desire to

serve in this way come.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: um, I actually

started when I was a freshman in college.

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Um, I went to Catholic University and was

in DC wedding world, which was so fun.

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Um, but I was definitely, you know,

I started interning like as a fun.

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Weekend college job.

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Um, but I was in secular wedding world,

so I saw a lot of the like, okay, we

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want to have a five minute ceremony

and then just like party really hard

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with our friends, which so fair.

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We love a good party.

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but at the time I had just met my now

husband, um, and was thinking about

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like, okay, well, like if we were

to get married one day, like I would

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love to have somebody who understands

like, you know, a wedding as a

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sacrament at a deeper level and, and

was thinking about just kind of like.

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What I would want, um, out of

a wedding planner, coordinator,

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whatever that might be.

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, And that didn't really exist at

the time, so this was in like:

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, And so there were like, I think

two gals who were doing it.

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, And it just wasn't a big thing.

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And so I kind of like kept it

in the back of my mind, kept

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working in secular wedding world.

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, And then going into my senior

year of college, I had one

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semester left, um, and I was like.

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just gonna try and like do this and

like, worst case scenario, like I

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spent a couple hours doing it as like

a fun little senior project and like

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: if

the Lord is, you know, wants

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this to be a thing, then it will.

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Um, and so I spent a lot of my.

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Senior year of college, just doing like

the hard groundwork, like getting all

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of the business logistics together.

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, And in the back of my mind I was

always hoping, you know, I could like

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graduate and start a full-time job

and then, you know, in the years to

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come, like get married and have kids

and this could be like my mom job.

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Um, and so I put in a lot of that like.

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work and here we are now, and like, that's

actually what I do and it's so crazy.

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Um, I spend, you know, a lot of

my, a lot of my days with my kids.

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And then, um, our clients are

also, you know, like young working

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adults who have nine to five jobs.

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So I meet with most of them

like after five o'clock anyways.

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Um, so my husband gets home and he gets

time with the kids and I pop upstairs

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and do my zoom calls and all the things.

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Um, but yeah, that's kind of where.

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Everything started, um, we're, I

realized we're almost five years

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in, in July, which seems crazy.

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Um, but yeah,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: like, you

know, myself, I have another lead

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planner, um, that works with me as well.

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Her name's Bernadette.

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She's like salt of the

earth, best human ever.

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Um, and we adore her.

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And then we have a couple, you know,

Catholic women who are like assistants

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and, and help us out on day of.

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Um, and really our goal is just

to like help Catholic couples.

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Have their wedding without all of the

extra stress of having like a large event.

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So a lot of times we talk about that, you

know, obviously the sacrament's the most

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important part, but that can get skewed so

quickly when you see like, oh my gosh, I

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need vendors and I have all these to-dos

and like all these things coming up.

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So our, our goal, especially if we're

doing like a more involved planning

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process, is to really take that off

your hands and then, you know, for our.

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Our gals and our couples who are, um,

coordination clients for us, we step

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in like two months before the wedding

and we get all of the information

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from them, um, so that they can

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

it, especially like the last

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month before they get married.

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But like wedding

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Right?

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: like,

you don't need to think about

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yes.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Go

have fun, enjoy, be present, and

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like we will handle the behind

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: that's

kind of who we are and what we do.

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Yeah.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Amazing.

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Thank you for that.

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And I love how you, I mean, you already

touched on what I wanna jump in next about

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how like there's so much that happens

around wedding planning and as Catholic

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couples, we can easily overlook the mass

and even just overlook the sacrament.

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That this like mass is right, the

sacrament that marriage, um, brings when

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you are up there on the altar saying yes.

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, Because there's so many details in the

wedding planning process for the party

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afterwards, the reception that like,

take up so much of your time and, and

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you work in this every single day.

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So how do you, um, help keep

that focus on marriage as a.

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Sacrament and keep that focus on the

mass as well, um, and not just as an

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event or focus on just the reception.

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think really my goal is to like.

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Worry about the reception

for any given couple.

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So like, I wanna take all of the, the

to-do list and all the little things

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and like the signage and all, all

of the fun stuff, but like required

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things, um, and make sure that they're

taken care of and it's not something

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that they, you know, are thinking

about while they're up on the altar.

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Like, oh, I wonder if Aunt Sally

is like setting up the reception.

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Like I asked her to like.

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I don't want

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

thinking about that.

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I don't want your family members

to be thinking about that.

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Like they should be able to

be present with you guys too.

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Um, and I think something that comes

up a lot in my work is like, I'm also

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able to help couples remember that

that's the focus as much as like.

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You know, subconsciously we

know that that's the focus.

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We know that that's like what the wedding

is all about, but there's so many other

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things going on, like you were saying,

that you can get distracted so easily.

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Um, and really like not even realize that

you've kind of like shifted your focus.

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And so I'm able to like, you know, be

another, another voice being like, okay,

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like let's, you know, get back to get

back to what everything's really about

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and like stay rooted in the sacrament.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: really.

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Encourage couples to do as well.

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I know a lot of them, um, have, you

know, some sort of like pre-K i or

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marriage prep with their priest or

their diocese or whatever that might be.

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, But I try and intentionally remind

them to like pursue a spiritually

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like enriching engagement period.

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Um, my husband and

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: we live

in a diocese of Wilmington, Delaware.

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She's a tiny little thing.

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Not it, it's its own, its own thing.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: but

we didn't have like an in-depth

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marriage prep experience.

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We met with our priest three

times and did like an online like.

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are the seven sacraments

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: just not, we,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: went to

Catholic school our whole lives.

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We were like, I, I knew

all of this when I was 12.

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Like, this is a little ridiculous.

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But that's something that a lot of couples

do, like, have a similar experience and

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they aren't, you know, in like the diocese

Arlington, which is so built out in

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beautiful and amazing and, and we like.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Totally.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: here.

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I love that for our, our couples

who are, are living there.

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But um, it's something that if

it's not being provided to you

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already, I really try and like.

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Push them to pursue that on their own.

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Um, and know that like, you know,

just reading some Fulton Sheen will

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get you far, um, will help you so

much in, in your marriage prep.

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Um, and really like as much as this

is, you know, planning a, a big event,

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this is also like your practice for the

rest of your lives as husband and wife.

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Um, and a lot of times I work.

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Really closely with brides and not as much

grooms, but I try to really encourage them

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to do everything together, um, and just to

like continually come back to each other.

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Like there's so many voices, so many,

you know, people who wanna support you.

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And it's lovely and it's

amazing, but like, this is your

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sacrament, this is your wedding.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: sure

that, you know, you're maid of honor

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doesn't know more about it than your

groom does that kind of a thing.

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Um, which is, you know,

probably a hot take.

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But, but I, you know, I've

seen grooms walk in and be

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like, oh wow, this looks great.

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And I'm like, you had no idea

like any of this, this is like

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hundreds of hours of work, honey.

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Like this didn't just like

magically appear like this is what

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: A popup.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: So just

doing everything like as a couple, um.

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Really just like helping to practice

for being married too, I think

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is really important in all of,

in all of the fun that it is too.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: yeah, just

keeping, keeping your faith as at the

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forefront of like each part of the wedding

day too, I think is really helpful.

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Like we have a lot of, um, couples

who will like, say a rosary

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in the morning, whether that's

like the two of them together

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: or if

it's like the bride and all of

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her bridesmaids, like just kind of

keeping yourself rooted in that, even

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on the actual day, like obviously.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: but

like continually kind of like

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keeping that at the forefront of

your minds and all of your guest

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minds makes such a big difference.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think when it comes to planning

too, I just remember, like I didn't

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realize that you could really be so

intentional about planning your mass

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because the church already gives us

options for what readings to pick from

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and you know what Psalms like all that.

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Like you just kind of pick

from a set number of options.

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So I thought it was just

gonna be like quick and easy.

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Open it, open up the little book.

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See what's there, pick it and go.

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And then Trina was like, no, I really

wanna like, like, let's, like pray

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Lexi Davina with like each one of these

and like, see like which one comes up.

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Like, let's like use this actually

to be like, what does the Lord

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wanna say through our wedding mass?

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Um, and so we actually dove super

deep into like the reasons why we

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picked every single reading and

we prayed with every single one.

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Picked the ones that we thought

would represent our marriage and what

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we wanted our marriage to be like.

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Um, and then with the songs and the

music too, I was very specific about

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what songs I wanted, uh, wanted

and what style and everything.

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And, um, people.

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I mean, everybody probably thinks

this about their wedding, but

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like people were just like, that

is like one of the most beautiful

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wedding masses like we have been to.

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So my encouragement is like, really

dive into that wedding mass planning.

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Don't leave it as like the last minute

thing and take time to truly like

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pray with the different parts of the

mass and engage in those different

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reading options that you have.

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'cause it, it can make a big difference.

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And the mass ended up being like

one of my favorite parts of the day.

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And I remember even after my own

wedding, we like had our priest add in

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some incense and we like said the St.

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Michael Prayer at the end of mass.

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And like a couple little things that you

like can technically add into a mass.

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you have to like ask about.

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Like that's one of the things

that I tell couples a lot too, is

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like, don't be afraid to just ask.

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The worst thing could happen

is they will tell you no.

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Ask and see, you know, this is

like the one time you get to really

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like, create how a mass is going

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: and

like reflect your relationship

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and your brand new marriage.

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Like go for it.

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Worst thing that happens is father says

no and you're like, okay, that's fine.

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Yeah, totally.

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Another thing too, I was gonna say,

'cause I totally agree with you

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on the marriage prep thing, like I

think a lot of diocese are really

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lacking in really solid marriage prep.

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Um, we also did not have a

good marriage prep experience.

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I think we met with our priest twice

and then COVID hit and he was like.

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Go ahead.

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And we were like, okay.

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Um, and so I really

recommend Better Together.

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It's a marriage prep program that

I think it's dynamic Catholic.

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And they had all these different Catholic

couples, um, just like kind of in the

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Catholic speaking world come together and

help build this marriage prep program.

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And I thought it was.

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It was really good.

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Fostered some really good

conversations, good formation.

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So that, I think, and then there's one

on formed, which is called Beloved maybe.

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Um, that one was good too.

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Had good questions.

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Yeah.

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So let's talk about engagement, because I

know when I was engaged, I had a picture,

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perfect picture in my mind of what I

thought engagement was going to be like.

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Um, and I think yes, at its core it

should be joyful and good and beautiful.

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But I, myself and a lot of other couples

I've talked to, have experienced.

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The hardship in that as well.

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And a lot of them have described it as

stressful or overwhelming, um, just not

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what they thought it would look like.

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Why do you think that is and how

can engaged couples protect their

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peace and their unity when planning

starts to really feel intense?

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there's a couple pieces.

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So I think one is, like I was kind of

mentioning earlier, you're practicing

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being a couple and making decisions

together for the first time, which

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can be a little uncomfortable.

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I know that that.

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Might sound crazy because

you're so excited to like, spend

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your life with this person.

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But especially like myself and

my husband, as we were making

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our decisions, we're both very

like type A, wanna know the plan.

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Um, and so learning to make

decisions together was definitely

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a little bit of a learning curve.

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Um, and you're, you're balancing.

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you're talking about money, , a lot.

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And you're, you know, dealing with family

expectations and opinions and like trying

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to do things together for the first time.

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And it, it does take some practice.

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And I think that that's something that's

really beautiful and it, as much as

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it's like stressful in the moment, it.

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Helps you in the long run.

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, So don't be like too afraid of those, you

know, more uncomfortable situations, like

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work through them together as a team.

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, There is definitely like a piece of, a

lot of couples experience little spiritual

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warfare in their engagement process.

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And I know that's like, you

know, a hot topic among a lot of

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Catholic, uh, circles and things.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Sure.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

of times just like.

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encourage couples just to like zoom

out and just like take a second, take

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a break from whatever is causing you

all this stress and just like breathe.

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Have a conversation with your soon to

be spouse and like, you know, take it.

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Take it a step back and, you know, kind

of have a reset for a minute because we

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can get so like deep into especially,

you know, the extra reception things and

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all of that and, and looking back and

being like, okay, our mass is like set

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and it's gonna be beautiful and the rest

of the wedding it's like kind of extra.

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And as much as we want it to be

beautiful, like once you're married,

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you're married and, you know, my

husband and I joked like we, it ended

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up raining like a monsoon on our wedding

day and we were like ultimately like.

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Once we're married, I don't really care.

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Whatever.

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Like we could just cancel the reception.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

Like you get to that point.

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Um, but yeah, I think that's,

that's a big piece of it.

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And you know, ultimately there is just

like an extra, I feel like, added pressure

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to perform, um, in our society where

we have, you know, like a bazillion.

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Pieces on TikTok and Instagram about your

bridal era and like all of the things.

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And I feel like that can really just

like fuzzy our view and focus of the

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day and add additional stress in places

that we don't necessarily need it.

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Like it's really gonna be okay.

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Um, and that's something that

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yep.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: That I

encourage couples to really, again,

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like zoom out, focus on the mass, focus

on, you know, what your priorities are.

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Um, that's something we work

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: a lot

of times too, is like, let's pick

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a couple areas that you really care

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

you wanna spend your money.

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If photography is incredibly

important to you, let's allocate

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your budget accordingly.

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The rest of the things like you can

play with and, and make it work.

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So,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: that's

just another, like, more practical

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piece is just to list out those

priorities and kind of like assign your

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: accordingly.

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But ultimately it is supposed to be fun.

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And if it's feeling like it's not

fun, that's when I say like, take

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a step back, take a breath, get

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: My goodness.

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Get off your phone, put it in like

another room and just kind of like take

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: a reset.

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Yeah.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: I

love that, and I loved your advice

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about like zoom out and come back

to each other and remember like,

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why are we even doing this, right?

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Like, we want to get married at the end of

the day, we just care about our marriage.

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And yes, we want all the wedding

day things to be absolutely

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spectacular and they will, right?

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But if we lose sight

of why we're doing it.

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It's going to get harder.

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So I think that while we were engaged,

we planned a few date nights where like

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we told each other like, we are not

allowed to talk about wedding planning.

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Like, we're gonna invest in

our relationship and just

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talk about different things.

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Um, and kind of just repark that love

that we have for each other, aside from

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being like wedding planners together.

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So, so for a bride who's just gotten

engaged, what do you want her to know

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before she even starts planning anything?

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

I kind of mentioned

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Um.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: but I.

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from the rooftops that your fiance

is supposed to be your biggest

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supporter in this season of life.

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Um, and as much as there's lots of

decisions to be made and it's so exciting

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and it's really fun, and a lot of other

people in your life want to support you

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in the season, you need to have your

fiance at top of mind all the time.

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Um, you need to have conversations with.

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Him or her first.

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Um, you know, I remember being

engaged and people like 24 hours

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after we got engaged being like,

okay, so when are you getting married?

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And we were like, ha ha.

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Like, I haven't even had

time to call the priest yet.

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Like, what do you.

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Do you expect that I just like

magically make this happen?

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You know?

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And as much as,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: are like,

so supportive and so lovely and, and

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want the best for you in that way,

um, you know, I think it's really

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important that you and your fiance have

conversations together first and foremost.

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If like questions keep coming up

and you're like, Hmm, you know what?

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I don't.

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Really know what he

thinks about this topic.

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Like know that it's okay to say like,

oh, we're still trying to figure that

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out, and take it back to your, you

know, soon to be spouse and really

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discuss it together first, because

it can get a little difficult if you

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guys have a difference of opinion.

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And then you have like parents involved

who are trying to give their opinion and

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then it turns into like, oh, well this

team wants this and this team wants that.

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And it's like.

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Not, you don't wanna at least start things

there too, especially in the early days.

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Um, and then the other piece of

it is, you know, a lot of times

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the beginning is the hardest part.

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I don't know about how your, you know,

wedding planning process was, but we have

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lovely church ladies who like to, you

know, keep the wedding calendar and you

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may need to meet with a priest first.

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You may need to come and do a,

a bazillion to-do list items

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before you can reserve a date.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204:

Yes, so true.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: within

that, I know a lot of times

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you're also trying to find a

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: can accommodate

the same date, um, which is hard.

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I, I remember literally being in tears

over it because I was like, this is

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so hard, and why is it this hard?

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Like,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

that lasts for like.

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A week or two.

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And once you get the calendars and

you see when people are open, like

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it really gets better, I promise.

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Um, I think it discourages a lot of

couples early on being like, oh my

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gosh, why is this so hard so early on?

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But once you get that date set with

both, you're in a much better place.

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And then you can really start to do like

the fun vendor process and all of that.

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But,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah,

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: you know,

stay strong in the first couple weeks.

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Know that it's a process.

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Um.

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you'll get there.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: I

feel like I would agree with that.

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I think like it.

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Was frustrating a little bit at first to

go back and forth for a couple weeks for

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us, like I think it took us like about

a month to finalize our actual date.

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'cause we were going back and forth

with like families and schedules

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and like, this is what we want,

this is what works for family.

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We also were in, I had just graduated

from college and Trey was a year below me,

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so he would've, he was graduating early,

but all his friends were still in college

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and so half of our bridal party was.

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Still in college.

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And so we had to like line it up with

like some like spring break or whatever.

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And yeah, then the churches and the

venue and making sure everything

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we wanted was on the same day.

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So yeah, that, that scheduling period is a

little bit stressful, but once that's done

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it's like you can get into the fun stuff.

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So for somebody who is just getting

started in, in your opinion, what

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are the most important parts of the

wedding planning process that you feel

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like brides should focus on early on?

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

I think there's a couple

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: that

goes into those like early days.

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So the most important information, like

people are gonna wanna know if we're

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talking about venue or church or, or

whatever that might be, they're gonna

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wanna know, like your guest count,

how many people you're envisioning.

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Um, with that, I always say

to like, actually go through

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and write down a list of like.

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The actual names because you

might in your head think, oh,

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we only have a hundred people.

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And then you write them all out and it's

like 180 and you're like, Ooh, wait,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Okay.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

different than what I thought.

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So go ahead and write out all

of your, like, must have people

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even, um, and go through that.

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Think about what your overall budget

is gonna look like and if you have had

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family make any like, you know, indication

that they might be wanting to, you know.

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with your budget, um, in any way.

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Try and

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: early.

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I know it's uncomfortable and

it's like kind of a weird place

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to be like, hi, so you said you

wanna gimme money, how much money?

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But it is,

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: really

helpful, , to try and get a good

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idea of that on the front end.

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, And then also just trying

to think about like.

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A general like month or time of year that

you wanna get married I think is really

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helpful on the front end, like we were

just saying, like sometimes you don't have

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the exact options that you want at the

church and they, you know, this beautiful

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: is booked on

the exact weekend that you are wanting.

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And that

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: and it's okay.

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And, and you'll end up loving

wherever you get married.

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But, , trying to think through those

pieces ahead of time is really helpful.

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And then from there, you know, looking

at your church and venue, um, if you have

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: like really

specific overall like design that

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you have in mind, , it's a great time

to like start thinking about that

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and what can kind of align there.

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, And then.

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there, just looking at what

your personal priorities are.

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So like my now husband and

I, and I encourage all of

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our couples to do it as well.

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We like sat down and literally looked

at like the different categories of

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vendors and we literally listed them

from like one to 10 or whatever it was.

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Um, and.

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Outlines like what mattered to us.

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Even, you know, beyond the mass.

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Like there are some, some gals who

like live and breathe the florals

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and they wanna spend $10,000 on

their florals, and they're fine

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with that and they're happy with

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: rather

do that than get a videographer.

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You know what fair, like

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

so allowed to do that.

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Um, and that's something that I think

is helpful to have that conversation

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early on and just make sure like you guys

are envisioning the same kind of thing.

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Um, again, always just bringing it back

to like, okay, this is our, our wedding.

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What do we wanna, you

know, what do we wanna do?

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How do we wanna purchase as a couple?

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, and you know, especially for brides

like myself who were, you know, have

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had a Pinterest board for their wedding

since they were like 12 years old.

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Taking a step back and like giving your,

you know, future husband places to add

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his opinion as well is really important.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: And I

know it can be hard when he, you

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: my example I

tell brides all the time is like, I really

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wanted the mismatch bridesmaid dresses.

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That was like starting to be

a thing when we got married.

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My husband was like,

no, I don't like that.

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:

It looks distracting to me.

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And like, I wanna look back at

our pictures and like, have ev

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And I was like, you know what?

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Okay.

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Fair.

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Like I can, I can accept that.

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Okay.

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And so that's what we did.

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And everybody wore their beautiful,

you know, dusty blue dresses and

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: and whatever.

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But like that's, you know, those are

the kind of things that are helpful to

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discuss the two of you together first,

again, before you like, you know,

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broadcast to all of your best friends.

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Like, okay, go start looking for a dress.

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It can be whatever you want.

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Like those

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Yeah.

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mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Totally.

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Totally.

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And I, I love that you share

that particular example because

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that shows just like love, right?

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And docility and like reminding

that, like reminding yourself that

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it's your husband's day as well.

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And he also gets a say, um, and that it

is like loving of us to, to make those

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little sacrifices and find the common.

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Um, what do you feel like are

some of the most common planning

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mistakes that you see brides make?

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avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Yeah,

I think generally the whole DIY

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concept is a troublesome spot.

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Um, myself and Bernadette, who works with

me, we both got married like very soon out

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of college, didn't have a ton of money.

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We so get it.

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Um, but there are certain areas of DIY.

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Works well and others that don't.

682

:

So we always say like, if you want

to do anything, DIY, try and do it.

683

:

Something that is like you can do

a month-ish before your wedding.

684

:

We don't want something like time

sensitive that's coming up with.

685

:

With the DIY things.

686

:

Um, so like, you

687

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Hmm.

688

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: of those

mistakes being, I've had some seen first

689

:

and you know, first and foremost some

gals who like wanna do their own florals.

690

:

And then I come in on wedding

691

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Oh yeah.

692

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

yeah, so I was up until 4:00 AM

693

:

making bridesmaid bouquets and

694

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Okay.

695

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: I'm

696

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

697

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: and I like,

can't see straight and I have a headache

698

:

and like all these things and you're like.

699

:

Okay.

700

:

So when we look at all of that's now

happened, like looking back, even just

701

:

for me, like as I, you know, advise other

couples, I'm like, okay, looking back

702

:

at this, my girl now has a headache.

703

:

She had, you know, three hours

of sleep before she had to

704

:

wake up and do hair and makeup.

705

:

She has to be up all day, like,

you know, on her, her princess

706

:

mode everyone being the happiest G

707

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah,

708

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: which

I'm sure you know, she still

709

:

is, but you're looking at all of

710

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204:

but you're exhausted.

711

:

Okay, let's just talk about that.

712

:

That is something no

one ever told me before.

713

:

My wedding day, nobody

talks about it enough.

714

:

I was exhausted on my wedding

day and like, I'm like definitely

715

:

out extrovert, like social

butterfly, life of the party girl.

716

:

I was so excited to just dance all night.

717

:

But literally like at the reception, I

think at like 7:00 PM I went up to train.

718

:

I'm like, how much longer do we have?

719

:

And he like.

720

:

We've got a while, girl, like,

you gotta take, you know, get

721

:

another drink, get some food in

you, like get on the dance floor.

722

:

And I was like, wow.

723

:

I'm like exhausted

724

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: And that's

one of the things that I like tell

725

:

brides all the time is like in the

morning, I will be bothering you

726

:

to drink water and to eat food.

727

:

And if I'm not physically there,

I need you to assign a bridesmaid,

728

:

uh, someone who's in the room

with you to literally be like,

729

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: to do so.

730

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: you food

because I know it's exciting and you have

731

:

butterflies and you're like, no, I'm good.

732

:

I don't need to eat.

733

:

But then like.

734

:

lot of brides have a two o'clock

mass time, which is already

735

:

like, do I have lunch before?

736

:

Like, what do I do with this?

737

:

Then by the time it's done, you

take photos, it's like 4:00 PM

738

:

and you're going to start at your

739

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204:

For your starving.

740

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: starving, and

you then have a migraine and like don't

741

:

wanna drink and like, oh, you know it.

742

:

It

743

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

744

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: into so

many other things and it's a long day.

745

:

Like so

746

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Else?

747

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: girls get

up at 6:00 AM to start hair and makeup

748

:

and then wanna go to their after

party until 1:00 AM or whatever time.

749

:

And I'm like, you've been

up for hours my dear.

750

:

Like at least go sit for a

second and like take a breather.

751

:

And that's something I tell couples a

752

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

753

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: like build

in some spots for yourself throughout

754

:

the wedding day to like just escape.

755

:

Whether it's by yourself or if it's,

you know, with your, with your new

756

:

spouse, I tend to recommend it with

757

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

758

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

your new husband.

759

:

But like, go sit for a second

760

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

761

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

some water and like breathe.

762

:

And that really

763

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

764

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

one, kind of like reset, but

765

:

also just like, remember your

766

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

767

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: instead

of just like going from one

768

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Hmm.

769

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: another

to another and you like never

770

:

really have a time to like stop

and just like, enjoy the day.

771

:

in some

772

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

773

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: time and,

you know, making some intentional

774

:

places for you to like take a break

775

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

776

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: a difference.

777

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

778

:

Totally.

779

:

So back to the DIY, besides florals, is

there anything else that you feel like

780

:

is a popular one that you're like, ah,

this one's always kind of troublesome?

781

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: I, as

much as we love it, um, having

782

:

family members contribute to

kind of like vendor categories.

783

:

to be a little

784

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Sure.

785

:

, avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: A lot of

times we see that with florals as well,

786

:

but like sometimes we'll have, like

Aunt Sally wants to make the cake and

787

:

then, you know, like you, some uncle is

like, yeah, you can just hop in my car

788

:

and I'll be your chauffeur for the day.

789

:

And like those kind of things.

790

:

Sometimes they work out.

791

:

A lot of other

792

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

793

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: don't work out.

794

:

So you have to think about like

kind of who you're dealing with in

795

:

that, you know your loved ones best.

796

:

But that's something that, you

know, we tell couples a lot is

797

:

like, you don't have a contract

with this person as much as you can

798

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

799

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: to

them like, I want X, Y, and Z.

800

:

Like, they kind of get

to do whatever they want.

801

:

Like there's nothing.

802

:

and, and as much as I'm sure

they want to do what you want,

803

:

they want the best for you.

804

:

Sometimes you

805

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

806

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Aunt Sally

that you want white and green flowers

807

:

turns into like, you know, like white and

808

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204:

than what you thought.

809

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: when

you mend it the other way around.

810

:

So just.

811

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

812

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: cautious of it.

813

:

We love all of

814

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

815

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: ones and all

of your guests, but that's the other main

816

:

piece is like, you know, not doing DIYs

that are time sensitive and gonna keep

817

:

you up till 3:00 AM the night before.

818

:

Um, but then also just happily cautious

with family members and loved ones guests,

819

:

whoever it might be that want to help.

820

:

I necessarily like contractually,

you know, supported or it's

821

:

something that they don't

822

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Totally

823

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

do for like a living.

824

:

Like, you know, anybody

825

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: right.

826

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: a cake.

827

:

Like, I can technically make a cake.

828

:

Do you want me to make your wedding cake?

829

:

Heck no.

830

:

But I could, you know what I mean?

831

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Totally.

832

:

No, yeah, that makes sense.

833

:

And put very lovingly, but also

very like, look like I have seen

834

:

this all through multiple times.

835

:

So just like your professional

advice, I would take it.

836

:

Absolutely.

837

:

Um, and this kind of leads into the

next question I had when it comes

838

:

to like navigating family opinions.

839

:

, especially when parents are

helping to pay for the wedding

840

:

or maybe have strong preferences.

841

:

I know it can get hard there because

you feel an obligation to do everything

842

:

your parents want since they're

paying for it or helping in some way.

843

:

Um, but it's at the end

of the day, your day.

844

:

Right?

845

:

Like what advice do you have for

brides who are experiencing this?

846

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: think one big

thing we say in Wedding World is that

847

:

money equals decision making ability.

848

:

So basically if you want, you know

if, if your mom wants 10 of her best

849

:

friends invited to the wedding, but

she's giving you a couple thousand

850

:

dollars, kind of offsets that

and you're like, you know what?

851

:

Well that's not the craziest request then.

852

:

So trying to just like take

that perspective, a lot

853

:

of times it is also hard.

854

:

People aren't giving you money,

but they still wanna give opinions.

855

:

And you're like, okay, well you want 10

friends, but that's an extra, like, you

856

:

have no idea how much more money that is.

857

:

That's $150 a head just for food plus

858

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

859

:

Mm-hmm.

860

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Like all,

you're like, honey, this is thousands of

861

:

dollars now to have your 10 besties here.

862

:

Um, so just trying

863

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

864

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: that and, and

I think illustrating that to parents or

865

:

family members is helpful too, just to

kind of outline like, okay, I totally get.

866

:

know where you're coming from, what your

opinion is, you're trying to lovingly

867

:

give me advice, whatever it might be.

868

:

But like, this is how we're seeing it and

this is like either the cost associated

869

:

with that or like, this is kind of like

sharing your, your point of view with it.

870

:

, I think to kind of offset that

and welcome family help, but and

871

:

keep a little bit of a line there.

872

:

, We were talking about like

making priorities earlier on.

873

:

And I think that that's somewhere

where you go to the bottom of

874

:

the list of priorities and you

see like, okay, what things do I

875

:

not really care that much about?

876

:

If you don't really care about your

table numbers, that's a great place for

877

:

you to bring in grandma and have her

help you like DIY, your table numbers.

878

:

If she doesn't, you

879

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

880

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: that's

something that she's able to give a little

881

:

opinion on, help you out in doing, like

882

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

883

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: together.

884

:

for it.

885

:

Like let people be involved.

886

:

I think it's a hard

balance between the two.

887

:

Um, and that's something we

talk about a lot as well, is

888

:

like you want to naturally, you

know, have your family involved.

889

:

You want their opinions, but then

like it crosses into like a little

890

:

bit too much and, okay, hold on.

891

:

We gotta gotta reel it in here.

892

:

Gotta backtrack.

893

:

And ultimately, like we were talking

about earlier too, this is practice

894

:

for you guys starting your own family

and like having to kind of like.

895

:

know, make a, make a line and be

like, okay, well we're willing to

896

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Yeah.

897

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: but

like this is where the line

898

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Great.

899

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Um,

and it's good practice in that.

900

:

It's uncomfortable, but

it's good practice in that.

901

:

Um.

902

:

And then also, you know, just trying

to keep in mind that they, most of the

903

:

times, I can't say always, but most of

the time they're just trying to help and

904

:

they really do like love you and want the

best for you and they're just trying to

905

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

906

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201:

know, be a part of this really

907

:

exciting experience for you.

908

:

So another, it's another one where like

helpful to just kind of zoom out for

909

:

a second reset and be like, okay, what

are we really like aiming for here?

910

:

What are.

911

:

If

912

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

913

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: to be

involved in help, like find a place

914

:

for them to be involved in help.

915

:

So, um, those are

916

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

917

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: you know,

the base, the base thoughts there.

918

:

But yeah, it is a really,

it's a challenging topic and

919

:

it's a challenge for everyone.

920

:

So if you're in the midst of that,

like know that it's not just you,

921

:

it's not just your mom or future

mother-in-law or whoever it might be.

922

:

Yeah.

923

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Totally,

uh, bringing it back to priorities.

924

:

I remember it totally just like

brought me back to wedding planning.

925

:

And, um, I remember like we made a

list of our, I think like top three

926

:

things that most important to us.

927

:

And then we asked our parents what,

'cause they both, they split our

928

:

wedding costs, which was such a gift.

929

:

And so then we asked our parents

like, what are the top three things

930

:

that you would want to prioritize?

931

:

And then we kind of put those together

and we got to make the ultimate decision.

932

:

But we were able to see like, okay, like

for example like us, like right out of

933

:

college, like we did not care about the

food, which is hilarious because if I were

934

:

to get married now, I would absolutely

care about having like an exquisite meal.

935

:

I care so much more about like food

now than I did as a 22-year-old.

936

:

But we were like, we could have pasta.

937

:

From Olive Garden for all I care.

938

:

You know, Trey was like, I'd

be happy with tacos, and our

939

:

parents were like, absolutely not.

940

:

Like food is like the number

one priority that we have.

941

:

And so we were able to kind of like

work with our budget and be like,

942

:

okay, our top priority is video and.

943

:

Photo and having a great dance party.

944

:

And then mine was florals, but then it

was like also food was really important.

945

:

And so we're like, okay, we're

going to try and save money in

946

:

different areas on florals so

that we can have a nicer dinner.

947

:

And so I made my bridesmaids

bouquets a little bit smaller.

948

:

And that saved some money.

949

:

And we put that towards

the food department.

950

:

So it was about like honoring both

priorities, especially if they're

951

:

helping you, um, pay for the wedding,

but then also just kind of reworking the

952

:

budget together and both sides, knowing

each other's priorities so you can

953

:

kind of make those decisions together.

954

:

And there's like a mutual compromise

of like how we're spending the money

955

:

and like where everything's gonna go.

956

:

So

957

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Yeah.

958

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204:

it just reminded me of that,

959

:

if that's helpful to anybody.

960

:

Um, one of the last questions I wanna ask

is, what's one detail that you feel like

961

:

makes a noticeable difference in how the

wedding day actually feels for the couple?

962

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: I think

having a really well-built timeline

963

:

is like lifesaver of the day.

964

:

Um, whether it's that you have an

outside coordinator like myself

965

:

come in and, and help you with that.

966

:

Um, and is the one kind of.

967

:

Directing it, or even if you just like

build out a good timeline yourselves.

968

:

Um, I think it's really helpful to

just have everything written down

969

:

and share that with people so that

they know like where to be when.

970

:

One of the things that we talk a lot

about, um, with our, our couples and

971

:

like with bridesmaids and groomsmen.

972

:

They need to know what time they're

expected to be getting dressed because the

973

:

photographer's coming over and like, if

the girls are still in their PJs, they're

974

:

gonna feel uncomfortable or whatever.

975

:

That might be like just

articulating that well.

976

:

, And then within that timeline, if

you don't have a professional that's

977

:

like helping you in that process,

um, my, you know, word to word to

978

:

everyone is just to make sure that

you have buffer time in there.

979

:

Um, my lead example is like,

yes, at home it might take you

980

:

five minutes to hop into a dress.

981

:

If you're putting on a wedding dress, we

need a good 20 minutes, like at least,

982

:

because you're gonna realize, oh, I need

to go to the bathroom before I get in.

983

:

Oh, I have.

984

:

400 buttons that I need to put on with

a crochet hook thing that is gonna take

985

:

mari-wagner_1_02-04-2026_104204: Mm-hmm.

986

:

avery_1_02-04-2026_124201: Like

there's a lot more pieces there.

987

:

Everyone wants your attention, they're

so excited for you, but like you need to

988

:

make sure that you have time to do these

things and not be like, incredibly rushed.

989

:

That's something that is actually

another one of those like mistakes

990

:

that we see a lot, um, from couples

who DIY, their weddings or don't have

991

:

coordinators or, or whoever that might be.

992

:

Um.

993

:

they, you know, feel like their morning

got off track and they're like running

994

:

really behind, it's hard to catch up

and like and, and be relaxed again.

995

:

, So that's something that, you know, we,

we do little like consult calls with

996

:

couples a lot, , for people who might

not have the budget to have a full

997

:

service like planner or coordinator.

998

:

Um, and so I, I work with women all the

time to like make their full timeline

999

:

and that's one of the things I always

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I'm putting extra time in here

because I want you to have a nice

:

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morning and I don't want you to be

:

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-:

:

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-:

want you to have to feel like

:

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you're trying to like play catch up.

:

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And then especially you know, in

the morning if you're getting ready,

:

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getting out the door, getting to mass.

:

00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,510

Like you think about the days where you

are running a little late to mass on like

:

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a Sunday and then you get in your pew and

your brain is still like fuzzy and zooming

:

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takes you half of mass to like really.

:

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Reign it in and be present.

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We really

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happening on your wedding day.

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Like I want you to be able to like.

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a really deep breath and like soak it all

in and you know, really appreciate those

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moments before you walk down the aisle

and like be fully present for all of that.

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, And again, just like helping to

remember your wedding day, it does go

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really fast, but those are the, the

things that we can implement so that

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you remember your wedding day betters.

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You know, , taking your time and having

that buffer room, um, is something that's

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just like incredibly, incredibly helpful.

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And then, I know you said one, but my.

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Other thing I have to add is we see

couples a lot of time at the reception

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pulled in different directions, talking to

family or loved ones or whoever that might

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-:

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the dance floor, something like that.

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really, really, really emphasize

to all of our couples that you need

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to stay together at your reception.

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it can be hard, and I know me saying it

sounds like, oh well we just got married.

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We're of course gonna stay together.

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But like when, you know a loved one from

this table eight all the way in the other

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corner of the room wants to pull your new

husband away because they have to tell

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-:

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-:

thought of from when they were four years

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old, whatever might be, it happens all

the time and you don't realize it in the

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moment, but you're trying to be respectful

and, and you know, you are like, oh yeah,

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-:

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-:

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Try your very, very

hardest to stay together.

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And if you realize that you got separated,

make it a top priority to make your way

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back to your brand new spouse so that

you can experience the day together,

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because it does make a huge difference.

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So those are my, my two.

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My two pieces.

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Yeah.

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I love that.

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I saw a creator on Instagram

post something similar recently

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about her, um, the, what's it

called, the rehearsal dinner.

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Maybe it was actually the

day of or the wedding too.

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Either one of those.

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Yeah, she posted a reel where it was

like, when they said, stay together,

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we took it really seriously and they

told each other, I think it was their

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rehearsal dinner, that they were gonna

hold hands like the whole night so that

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they would make sure that they like.

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Don't like get pulled away.

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And so when they weren't like sitting

down or eating, like if they were standing

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00:45:37,550 --> 00:45:41,030

up, even if they were talking to a guest

or something, they were holding hands.

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And it was just like this

beautiful physical reminder

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of just like, we are together.

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This is our day.

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Like you feel that affection

towards each other.

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And also like a, we literally

can't get pulled away without

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the other one coming with me.

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So like we're not being separated.

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And it was really beautiful.

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-:

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-:

why do you feel like having a wedding

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planner really makes a difference?

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-:

obviously I am a, I'm a big fan.

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00:46:03,178 --> 00:46:06,538

I like to tell people too that

I'm a wedding planner who had

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my own wedding coordinator.

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00:46:07,888 --> 00:46:11,143

Like I believe in it so deeply that

even planning my own wedding, I had.

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00:46:11,873 --> 00:46:14,173

Another gal come in

and do all of the stuff

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-:

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00:46:15,193 --> 00:46:16,223

-:

um, and in, even in

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-:

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-:

weeks leading up, because you wanna

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be able to be fully present and

not have to think about anything.

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00:46:22,583 --> 00:46:25,613

Like there are so many things

that come up on a wedding day.

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00:46:25,823 --> 00:46:31,583

I like the list is monumental of all

the things that come up that you don't

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00:46:31,583 --> 00:46:33,413

wanna have to be like troubleshooting.

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00:46:33,443 --> 00:46:33,808

And so that's what.

:

00:46:34,843 --> 00:46:37,963

job is what any wedding planner

or coordinator should be doing, at

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00:46:37,963 --> 00:46:41,803

least is they should be trying to

handle these problems before you

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00:46:41,803 --> 00:46:43,183

even realize that they come up.

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00:46:43,393 --> 00:46:47,083

So like, if a bridesmaid's button

just broke off the back of her dress,

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00:46:47,293 --> 00:46:50,503

like we're in there with a needle

and thread fixing it before she can

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00:46:50,503 --> 00:46:53,893

have a tear streamed out her face

like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna do?

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00:46:54,193 --> 00:46:57,853

Or, you know, there's, there's so

much we try really hard to make.

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00:46:58,743 --> 00:47:01,413

Exact timelines, but regardless, you know,

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00:47:01,563 --> 00:47:01,893

-:

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00:47:02,463 --> 00:47:04,833

-:

about like five friends trying to get

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00:47:04,833 --> 00:47:05,738

out the door to go to dinner together.

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00:47:07,258 --> 00:47:11,158

Something happens every time and

you end up a little off track, like

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00:47:11,158 --> 00:47:14,578

somebody forgot their phone inside

or you know, they have to go grab

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00:47:14,578 --> 00:47:17,488

this or that, or, you know, there's

always something that comes up.

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00:47:17,488 --> 00:47:20,998

So if you're, you know, trying to

wrangle a hundred guests who've been

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00:47:20,998 --> 00:47:23,728

enjoying themselves, a lot of times

have been drinking and like the

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00:47:23,728 --> 00:47:27,958

slightest alcohol gets adults, like

paying attention is, oh my goodness,

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00:47:27,958 --> 00:47:29,668

it's like, you know, herding cats.

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00:47:29,878 --> 00:47:34,468

Um, but that's something that, you

know, I want to be able to do and focus

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00:47:34,468 --> 00:47:36,238

on for you so that you can just like.

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00:47:36,478 --> 00:47:38,968

Go from point A to point B and

not have to think about it.

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00:47:38,968 --> 00:47:41,848

And you can be really fully

present with your new spouse.

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00:47:41,848 --> 00:47:48,058

And also a lot of times the coordination

role or like the decor setup role gets

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00:47:48,058 --> 00:47:50,668

passed off to family members or friends.

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00:47:50,668 --> 00:47:52,856

And that's something that I totally.

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Understand and can support

from, you know, from a distance.

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If you have friends who like aren't

in your wedding party and wanna

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00:48:01,473 --> 00:48:03,603

help you, by all means go for it.

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00:48:03,993 --> 00:48:08,013

But we don't wanna see your parents

helping you like set up your.

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00:48:08,408 --> 00:48:10,743

Your card card box at your reception.

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-:

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-:

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-:

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-:

see that happen for them.

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Like, please find anyone else to do

that task, but they should be able to be

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-:

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00:48:18,318 --> 00:48:19,778

-:

enjoy your wedding day too.

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And I think that that's something

that, you know, we alleviate a

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00:48:22,838 --> 00:48:25,598

lot of that responsibility and

that stress for couples, for

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their families, for their guests.

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00:48:26,858 --> 00:48:31,268

Like having a point person who's in

charge of everything and knows everything

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00:48:31,268 --> 00:48:33,428

that's going on is so valuable.

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00:48:33,668 --> 00:48:35,168

Even just to have like a lead.

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00:48:35,483 --> 00:48:40,373

Person if a question comes up, if

something like goes awry when your bustle

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00:48:40,373 --> 00:48:46,193

breaks and I have, you know, 97 safety

pins in my bag and can come bring you.

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00:48:46,343 --> 00:48:49,548

Like, those are the kind of things

that we are happy to take care

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-:

You're ready to go.

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-:

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Yeah, exactly.

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00:48:52,313 --> 00:48:55,283

You're not like trying to find

a bandaid because you're blister

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00:48:55,283 --> 00:48:57,713

from your heels that you've

never worn is like killing you.

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00:48:57,743 --> 00:48:58,523

Those kind of things.

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00:48:58,523 --> 00:49:02,153

So making it so that, you know,

brides and grooms can just like.

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00:49:02,483 --> 00:49:07,283

Be present and enjoy the day and truly not

have to think is like my number one goal.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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00:49:08,996 --> 00:49:10,046

That is so helpful.

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00:49:10,046 --> 00:49:13,046

You've been so helpful

today in this conversation.

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00:49:13,046 --> 00:49:13,976

Thank you for giving us just.

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00:49:14,501 --> 00:49:20,081

The insider opinion and the inside

scoop on how the wedding world really

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00:49:20,081 --> 00:49:23,081

works and all the advice that you

gave brides to be, I'm sure they're

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00:49:23,081 --> 00:49:24,761

walking away with a lot of notes.

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00:49:25,121 --> 00:49:28,481

Um, where can they find more

of you or work with you?

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00:49:28,871 --> 00:49:29,766

How can we get in touch?

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-:

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Yeah.

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00:49:30,906 --> 00:49:37,326

So all things for, for Cana Wedding Co are

literally all like, Instagram is at cana

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00:49:37,326 --> 00:49:40,896

wedding co website is cana wedding co.com.

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00:49:41,106 --> 00:49:42,456

Um, all that good stuff.

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00:49:42,456 --> 00:49:47,286

So feel free to send us inquiry

messages through our website.

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00:49:47,496 --> 00:49:48,996

Um, like I was saying, we do like.

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00:49:49,336 --> 00:49:53,086

Full planning, partial planning,

coordination, and we do consults as well

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00:49:53,086 --> 00:49:56,506

for anybody, um, who like isn't local.

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00:49:56,686 --> 00:49:59,836

Um, we do travel weddings

occasionally as well.

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00:49:59,966 --> 00:50:04,016

, So feel free to send like any thoughts,

questions my way and I'm always happy

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00:50:04,016 --> 00:50:07,376

to direct you to the right place

and, and be of any help that we can.

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00:50:07,566 --> 00:50:09,996

, And feel free to send, send

dms and all the things.

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00:50:09,996 --> 00:50:12,166

But , yeah, , that's, where we are.

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-:

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00:50:13,183 --> 00:50:13,903

Well, thank you so much.

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00:50:13,903 --> 00:50:16,513

We'll make sure to drop all that

information down in the show notes

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00:50:16,813 --> 00:50:20,263

so you guys can get in touch with

Avery or just learn more as you're

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00:50:20,383 --> 00:50:22,603

getting ready to plan your wedding

and know that we'll be praying for

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00:50:22,603 --> 00:50:24,403

you and cheering you on from afar.

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00:50:24,403 --> 00:50:28,933

Marriage is just so beautiful and this

time is so, so special, so praying

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00:50:28,933 --> 00:50:30,463

for all you brides to be out there.

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00:50:30,823 --> 00:50:32,563

Thank you, Avery, for joining us today.

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00:50:32,563 --> 00:50:33,703

Such a fun conversation.

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So good having you on the podcast.

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-:

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Thank you so much.

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