53: Car Chats: Latin Dance Party, The Chosen, Girls Trips & God as Creative Director

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Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,

and you're listening to The Ever Be

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Podcast where Faith Meets Lifestyle.

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I'm so excited you're here.

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Whether you're a new listener

or a longtime follower, I know

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there's something here for you.

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Pull up a chair and listen in for

insightful, real life conversations and

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actionable steps on how to claim the.

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Full life God created you for.

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If you're a woman desiring to live

a Christ-centered life in today's

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modern world, then this is for you.

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Welcome to ever be.

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These little mics stress

me out a little bit.

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Why?

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They're so light in my hand.

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I feel like I'm gonna drop it,

or like you're gonna like talk

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with your hands and fling it.

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I feel like I'm just gonna fling it.

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Just let it fly.

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Also, you know, when girls

just have like a bad hair day?

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Yeah.

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I just feel like no matter

what I do to my hair today, it

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just like does not look good.

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You know, we're keeping

this in the podcast.

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I'm not gonna edit this out.

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Okay.

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We're showing and going.

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Do you think my hair looks good?

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I think your hair looks beautiful.

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Thanks.

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We're just gonna leave it,

we're just gonna leave it as

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is because it looks great.

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It looks great, right?

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It looks, it literally looks like

you spent 20 minutes doing your hair.

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Uh, it looks great for

all those listening.

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It was up in a slick back high

bun, and it just like was hurting

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my head and I had to take it down.

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But like, you know, you've got the

hair product in your hair and then

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it looks Gracie, and then matted,

and then floppy, and then we're

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just, we're just rolling with it.

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It looks great.

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Okay.

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Looks great.

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Well, we're back in the car.

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We're back in the car.

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You guys this time in Mari's.

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Dad's truck.

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Yes, we're in Washington, which is where

I grew up, which is where my family's.

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Like lives and we're here for

the week and um, you know, we're

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just like not as on top of the

podcast as you might think we are.

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And so it's a Tuesday and this

episode will be out tomorrow.

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By the time you're listening

it'll be Wednesday.

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Um, but I'm kind of excited

for today's episode because.

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We had talked about like recording

this one, maybe last week or so,

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and it was, it's just gonna be fun.

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It's just a casual car chat, super casual

and basically just like life updates,

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like what's going on in our life.

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March.

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A little peek behind the curtain.

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Yeah, which is fun.

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Okay.

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Before we get into the, I guess

this is the episode, but back

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to your hair conversation.

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Oh, we're going back there.

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I know the, I know the experience

'cause I'm trying out a new haircut.

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Oh yes.

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And I've had the same haircut

since what, eighth grade?

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Yeah.

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Seventh grade.

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Yeah.

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For as long as I ever, like sixth

grade had hair to care about.

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Yeah.

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Like once I moved on from my

like mom cutting my hair, I've

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just had the same haircut.

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Mm-hmm.

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My entire life.

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Your classic like clean shortcut.

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Yeah.

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It was just like your clean short.

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Yeah.

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You know, fade on the side.

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Yeah.

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A little bit longer on top and side part.

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And now you're growing it out.

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Mari has convinced me that

it's a more mature hair.

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No, no, no.

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Didn't say that.

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The real said that.

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I did not say that.

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I just said, Hey, I wonder what your

hair would look like if you grew it out.

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And then we saw all these reels.

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That said like mature men, mature

men don't longer hair don't

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mature men don't get skin fades.

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Skin fades.

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Yeah.

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And and I think that S cuts

and think that's what convinced

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you need to get a sci cut hair.

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So I've been growing my

hair out since December.

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And it's not long.

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Like, it's not like I'm not trying

to have it be like a man bun or

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like, oh no, going down to like

my shoulders or like, no, no, no.

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Even past my years, it's just like enough

that you can style it a little bit.

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It's literally just like

a mid length cut that I.

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The hair is being pulled back and just to

give it like, it's a little more style.

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Some texture.

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Yeah, some movement.

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Yeah.

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So I don't know.

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I, I feel like it's kind

of in right now too.

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It's definitely in, but I

don't know how to do it yet.

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And so every day I am like, so Trey's

also having a bad hair day, trying,

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trying to figure out how to style my hair.

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This is also not even what

we meant to talk about today.

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So, so that's enough on our hair, but.

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What Washington we're doing in Washington.

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We're in Washington.

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Right now.

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We're in Washington because we're

visiting my parents for their birthday.

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My parents sure the

same birthday actually.

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And they're two years apart.

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So they were born on the

same day, two years apart.

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My dad's older and he's

turning 50 on Thursday.

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Boop.

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Woo-hoo.

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Happy birthday dad.

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And so we're here doing a.

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Huge 50th birthday party for him.

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The whole crew is coming.

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Uh, all of our friends have some family.

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There's literally gonna be like 65 people.

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Yeah.

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Well what's the guest list of time?

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I'll count.

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Or 70 people.

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It's like 60 something.

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I think it was like 69 or something.

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But we had three cancellations this week.

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So like it's full blown like party.

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Party.

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It's like small wedding,

like a mini wedding.

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Like we're talking small wedding

level, like at a country club,

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catered dinner, cater past hor

d'oeuvres, bar dj, and a dj.

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And the literal dj.

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And what is the special

thing about this dj?

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The special thing about this

DJ is that he's Colombian.

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And so obviously my family being

Colombian is very excited about that

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'cause we feel like he's gonna like

totally get the like Latino dance

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party vibes that we're going for here.

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So we were at the venue two

days ago on Sunday, I think.

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Right?

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Saturday?

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Saturday.

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And we were doing like the final

walkthrough, making sure that schedule

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was set up, that how the room was

gonna be set up was all right.

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And the, I don't know, the coordinator,

event coordinator, the event coordinator

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was like, had set the room up, but

it was minimizing the dance floor.

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Yeah.

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Like the dance floor was not.

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Focal point or like what the event was

planned around was not the dance floor,

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the event was the event and the seating

was all planned around the dinner.

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The dinner and people eating and how

to like, you know, have all the, all

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65 people comfortably sat in the room.

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Right?

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But, but it left a tiny dance floor.

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It left a small dance floor.

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And I was like trying to tell him like.

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Dude, I, I get it, but

like, you don't know us.

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He's like, he's like, oh, and

we need room on the dance floor.

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He's like, oh, well, he's like,

not everybody's gonna be dancing

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and like, not everybody's gonna

be dancing at the same time.

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Like, you don't need a bigger dance floor.

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And I was like, no, we do.

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And I, and he was literally, and

then he was like, kind of fighting

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on fighting me on it too, dude.

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Like, he is like, no, trust me,

not everybody's gonna be dancing.

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Yeah.

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He was like, no, no, no, trust me.

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And I was like.

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Okay.

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No, trust me.

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Like I know the group of people

that are coming, my parents and

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all of their friends are Latino

and they all love to dance.

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And that's what they do at their

parties like this, like the, the

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dinner, like salsa dancing, like

the dinner is just salsa dancing.

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Like the dinner is just like,

let's get the dinner outta the way.

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Like, we're here to dance.

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Yes.

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And.

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Even the DJ that we hired on is like

teaching a salsa lesson as like part

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of the activity of the night, like

kinda like part of the main activity

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of the night, which is good for me,

which is great for Trey because he

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needs to learn how to salsa dance.

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And so anyways, I like literally

had to stop the event coordinator

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guy and I was like, I.

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I, oh no.

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'cause he said, he said, I know

that ideally in the ideal world you

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think everybody would be dancing.

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And I know you think that, but really

they're gonna be eating and chatting

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and like sitting in the corner.

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You know, like not everybody, like people

aren't gonna really get up and dance

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or they're not all gonna be dancing.

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They're not all gonna be

dancing at the same time.

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And I was like, with all due

respect, Anthony Sir, sir.

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Thank you for your service at the country

club, but we're gonna need a bigger

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dance floor because yes, everybody's

gonna be dancing at the same time and I

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can't wait for him to witness this party.

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So then Mari had to rearrange, so

then I was like, would you please

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just let me rearrange the tables?

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And I think at that point he

was like, all right, yeah, fine.

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Go ahead.

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I mean, he ran into, won

that, I won that battle.

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He ran into two Latino women, determined

Colombian women that were like, not go.

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We have a plan.

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Thank you very much.

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Yeah.

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He was not ready for the two,

you and your mom to show up.

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Yeah.

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So I'm super excited.

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I feel like my parents are not

huge, like celebratory people.

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No.

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It's just like, not

what their families did.

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And I don't know, like I, I just feel

like they deserve this celebration.

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Absolutely.

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And my dad especially turning 50 like

dads do so much and I just feel like.

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That's when awesome.

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Been celebrated enough, you know?

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And so I'm really excited for

him to have this big party.

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And so it'll be super fun.

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It's gonna be super fun.

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And your friends are coming

and my friends are coming.

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My two best friends from college are

coming and they're basically like

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family, so I'm excited to see them too.

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Yep.

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So that party is this Saturday, but we'll

be in Washington for like 10 days total.

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Yeah.

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Like the whole week leading up.

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Yeah.

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And we are living at

Mari's parents' house.

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Mm-hmm.

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With her grandma and her two aunts.

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Oh yeah.

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From Columbia.

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They came to visit to Surprise

my dad day, which is an

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awesome surprise for first day.

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But that means all of the extra

rooms are taken in the house and

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Trey and I are on the pullout couch.

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Well, yeah, I mean there's

literally, I think 11 or 12 people.

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Well, by the time my friends get here

and my sister gets here from college,

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yeah, there'll be a lot of people.

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Yeah, maybe like 10 or something.

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Packed house, but wouldn't

have it any other way.

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It'll be fun.

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Yeah, it'll be fun.

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All right.

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And then what else did we do recently?

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We flew from Dallas to Washington.

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, March has been a packed month.

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I was about to say so far because I

feel like it feels like it's over.

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Well, it almost is.

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Yeah.

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Like it will literally be

over by the end of the week.

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But in my head, I thought we were

like literally mid-March, but

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it's just like moving so fast.

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Um, March has been a packed.

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Packed month.

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So yeah.

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So let's just backtrack basically.

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Okay.

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Because this is the end of our march.

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Mm-hmm.

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So we can backtrack and share

everything that has happened this month.

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Okay, great.

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So we got to Washington on.

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Friday and we flew from Dallas

because we were at a really fun

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event, which if you follow me closely

on Instagram, you probably already

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know 'cause I posted all about it.

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Where were we tricked?

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We were in Dallas at the Chosen

season five red carpet premiere.

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Yeah.

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I honestly can't believe

we got invited to this.

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Yes, it was so fun and

such an honor to be there.

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But basically like the literal premier

party for the chosen season five.

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Was happening and they were

like, Hey, y'all wanna come?

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They like contacted me

like a two weeks, I think.

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Two weeks?

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Yeah.

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Like before the event.

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And they're like, it's in two weeks.

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Do you wanna come, come down to Dallas?

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And I was like, yes.

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Like we will get our life together.

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We will make it work.

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But like we were not gonna

miss this opportunity.

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We love the chosen love, the

chosen, like love the chosen.

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We put off watching it for a really

long time because we weren't sure.

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If it was gonna be good or

not, despite what people said.

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We were just skeptical and we were

like, oh, it's a Christian show.

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Like those are usually so cheesy.

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Yeah.

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And we like didn't want it

to impact our prayer lives.

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We didn't want to, like every time we

read scripture to just see the chosen

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scene and we were just like worried

about, basically, yeah, we were just

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putting it off and yeah, I don't know.

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Honestly, there were stupid

reasons looking back.

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It's awesome.

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We absolutely love it.

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Yeah.

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But we started watching it like

a year and a half ago and we,

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we just like couldn't stop.

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We just basically binge

watched it in a couple months.

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So the party was super fun, of course,

but we were like really most excited

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to like watch the, so they showed

us season or episode one in episode

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two of season five of season five.

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And if you guys haven't seen the

chosen, get caught up quick because.

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That season comes out, I

think this week, right?

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I think it comes out this week, this

Friday and yeah, or this Saturday.

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Yeah, this, I don't remember.

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I think it, yeah, end of this week.

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There you go.

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End this week.

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But it's so good, and I mean, obviously

we haven't seen the whole season, but

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what everybody says about the season is

that it just is very heart wrenching and

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just like heavy and emotional, which,

I mean, it's about the last supper and.

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Leading up to the crucifixion, so, so

I, yeah, I mean, it's gonna be intense.

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Yeah.

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So that was super fun.

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and then before we were in Dallas,

another fun thing happened in March.

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Your friends?

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Oh yeah.

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March is a huge friends month for me.

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I feel like I'm seeing all my closest

friends in one month, which is very true.

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Um, and so let's see, the very

first weekend of March was when

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my Instagram girls came to visit.

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Yes.

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So Megan Wells, Melissa Blada,

and Claire Kie are some of

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my close friends that I met.

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Through Instagram and have been friends

with them basically since we all started

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blogging on Instagram, like back in 2018.

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Yeah.

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Um, and we basically just became

friends because we were all doing it

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at the same time, and over time we

would just chat more and like slowly

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we developed relationships and then we

started calling and we started doing

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like monthly, like mentorship call,

not mentorship calls, like mastermind

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: 00:13:50

calls, like basically just like.

345

: 00:13:53

Monthly calls where we would help

each other in our like career or

346

: 00:13:58

business or whatever you wanna call it.

347

: 00:14:00

Basically like being a content creator.

348

: 00:14:01

You don't have a team, you don't have

colleagues, you don't have coworkers.

349

: 00:14:05

Mm-hmm.

350

: 00:14:06

You don't have a boss.

351

: 00:14:07

And sometimes it's kind

of lonely out here.

352

: 00:14:10

And so we basically did monthly

calls to talk about like how our

353

: 00:14:14

work was going and how content was

going and supporting each other and

354

: 00:14:18

sharing anything that we had learned.

355

: 00:14:19

Um, yeah, any like.

356

: 00:14:21

Tips or, uh, practices or anything

that could help each other in our work.

357

: 00:14:26

We started helping each other

and doing calls like that.

358

: 00:14:28

And basically that just naturally led to

a deeper friendship because we're spending

359

: 00:14:33

two hours on the phone once a month.

360

: 00:14:36

Mm-hmm.

361

: 00:14:36

And we're women and so we just talk.

362

: 00:14:40

Um, and so then besides work,

we would just start talking

363

: 00:14:44

about our lives and catching up.

364

: 00:14:46

And now our calls are

basically like the first.

365

: 00:14:49

Gosh, like 45 minutes is us just like

talking about life and that's if we

366

: 00:14:53

like, try and keep it brief, like, yeah,

no, it's like an hour and a half if

367

: 00:14:56

you, no, it's not an hour and a half.

368

: 00:14:57

If you don't have, if

we all talk for 20 wait.

369

: 00:15:02

2, 4, 6.

370

: 00:15:03

Yeah.

371

: 00:15:03

If we all talk for 20

minutes, then it's an hour.

372

: 00:15:05

Right.

373

: 00:15:06

So it's like basically an hour

of us catching up on life.

374

: 00:15:09

But like you have to share about

your life and they have to share

375

: 00:15:11

their comments about your life.

376

: 00:15:12

Then you have to share your

comments about their comments.

377

: 00:15:14

And so yeah, it just takes,

you know how it goes.

378

: 00:15:15

Yeah.

379

: 00:15:16

You know how it goes.

380

: 00:15:17

And then the next hour we talk about like

whatever our topic was for the night.

381

: 00:15:20

But yeah, so it's been really formative,

this group, and we've been wanting

382

: 00:15:24

to get the girls trip going because

like you guys have been friends.

383

: 00:15:29

Funny, pretty close friends

for the last like two years.

384

: 00:15:33

Oh, like super close?

385

: 00:15:34

Yeah.

386

: 00:15:34

The last like two or three.

387

: 00:15:36

And like, we started these calls

like before we moved to Colorado,

388

: 00:15:39

and that was two years ago.

389

: 00:15:40

Besides these once a month calls,

you guys are texting in the group

390

: 00:15:44

chat literally every single day.

391

: 00:15:46

All day, every day.

392

: 00:15:46

Yeah.

393

: 00:15:47

My, my group chat is blowing up all day

and so, but you've seen like some of them.

394

: 00:15:54

Individually, but you guys have

never exactly done or you've never

395

: 00:15:58

hung out in a group altogether?

396

: 00:15:59

Yes.

397

: 00:15:59

Yeah.

398

: 00:16:00

We've all met or done stuff together

separately, like with different girls in

399

: 00:16:05

the group, but altogether that's never

happened, and that's what we wanted

400

: 00:16:08

to make happen, and we almost did in

: 2024

401

: 00:16:13

and visit Melissa in Florida and then.

402

: 00:16:17

It wasn't super last minute, but basically

after we had set that date, Megan and I

403

: 00:16:20

both had something come up and couldn't

go, and so we wrecked the group plans

404

: 00:16:25

and poor Claire had already purchased

her flight and couldn't refund it.

405

: 00:16:28

So she went and visited Melissa, and

then we were like, okay, we have to

406

: 00:16:32

get a date on the calendar for 2025.

407

: 00:16:35

Make sure it's set.

408

: 00:16:36

And so then we, that's when we

planned for this first week of March.

409

: 00:16:39

First weekend of March.

410

: 00:16:41

And it was so much fun because you

did so many fun, exciting things.

411

: 00:16:47

Right?

412

: 00:16:47

We, I mean, we did fun things.

413

: 00:16:50

We really did.

414

: 00:16:51

It was like a packed weekend,

but we also just Yes.

415

: 00:16:54

Hung out and talked.

416

: 00:16:55

Yes.

417

: 00:16:55

I just, I'm laughing because they didn't.

418

: 00:16:58

Really have anything planned?

419

: 00:17:00

It was like, no, I did.

420

: 00:17:02

I had the whole weekend planned.

421

: 00:17:03

We, I picked them up from the airport

and I took them home and we had dinner,

422

: 00:17:07

and then we went straight to get our

nails done, and then we went straight to

423

: 00:17:10

my favorite bar and then the next day.

424

: 00:17:13

We had breakfast and then we, then we

just like chatted for a couple hours.

425

: 00:17:17

Right.

426

: 00:17:17

Then we recorded a podcast, then

we made content, then we went

427

: 00:17:20

on a walk, then we came home.

428

: 00:17:21

Then we made pizza night.

429

: 00:17:23

No, it was a super fun,

had massive brunch.

430

: 00:17:25

Yeah.

431

: 00:17:25

Super fun weekend.

432

: 00:17:27

I think you're just, I think laughing

because we did not stop talking the

433

: 00:17:30

entire time because like the event,

like the activity was Let's talk.

434

: 00:17:35

Yeah.

435

: 00:17:35

Basic.

436

: 00:17:35

And that's just so different

than like guys trips.

437

: 00:17:37

Yeah.

438

: 00:17:38

We could have been doing anything.

439

: 00:17:39

It's like I was, were

just there to talk there.

440

: 00:17:42

For most of the time I was there.

441

: 00:17:45

You were there?

442

: 00:17:45

Yeah.

443

: 00:17:46

You were at home and it

was just a spectacle.

444

: 00:17:49

Witnessing how many words, like the

words per minute coming out of all of

445

: 00:17:54

your guys' mouths for not even joking.

446

: 00:17:56

72 hours straight.

447

: 00:17:57

Yeah, basically like go to bed at 11:30

PM I could hear 'em still chatting.

448

: 00:18:01

I would wake up at 7:00 AM seven 30

and you could him in the bathroom.

449

: 00:18:05

So women need that.

450

: 00:18:07

No, it's good.

451

: 00:18:08

It was just a confirmation and

we all felt this, that like.

452

: 00:18:11

Women need women friendships.

453

: 00:18:13

Yes.

454

: 00:18:13

And like we, I will not be able to

replace those women friendships.

455

: 00:18:17

Yeah.

456

: 00:18:17

Like we all love our husbands

and have such like healthy,

457

: 00:18:21

beautiful, wonderful marriages.

458

: 00:18:23

But our husbands can't do that for us.

459

: 00:18:27

No.

460

: 00:18:27

Like our husband, like love them and

our husbands like, you know, you do such

461

: 00:18:30

an amazing job of just like chatting

with me when I like need to talk

462

: 00:18:33

something out, but they don't respond

and engage in conversation the same

463

: 00:18:38

way your girlfriends do you know this?

464

: 00:18:41

Mm-hmm.

465

: 00:18:41

And so it's such a like filling

cup, filling thing to like

466

: 00:18:44

sit there with a group of.

467

: 00:18:46

Your best girlfriends just like

chatting about anything under the sun.

468

: 00:18:50

And that's basically what we did

for like three days straight.

469

: 00:18:52

Yeah, and it was super fun.

470

: 00:18:53

And something that I love that we

reflected on later, something that I loved

471

: 00:18:57

about this group too, is that we realized

it was so fulfilling to be with each other

472

: 00:19:04

and that these relationships are so cup

filling because we all build each other up

473

: 00:19:12

and we all like play a role in the group.

474

: 00:19:15

To build each other up.

475

: 00:19:17

And that's very unique, I feel like,

in a friend group, because a lot of

476

: 00:19:22

the times there's somebody that's more

of like a leader or somebody that's

477

: 00:19:25

more of just like, you know, the

person that's like the Energizer bunny.

478

: 00:19:29

Mm-hmm.

479

: 00:19:30

Like let's do this, you know?

480

: 00:19:31

And like.

481

: 00:19:32

We all kind of play that leadership

role in a lot of the different friend

482

: 00:19:36

groups that we have and like we serve our

communities as leaders and, and pour into

483

: 00:19:41

the people around us naturally in our

lives and in our work and in this group.

484

: 00:19:48

It's like we naturally do it for

each other and we don't have a lot of

485

: 00:19:52

people in our life that do that for us.

486

: 00:19:53

Yeah.

487

: 00:19:54

And so to be able to get that all

from each other is such a gift.

488

: 00:19:57

Yeah.

489

: 00:19:57

I remember like when you were talking

to me after the weekend to like.

490

: 00:20:02

Debrief, debrief the weekend, the

weekend after talking for 72 hours.

491

: 00:20:05

Yes.

492

: 00:20:06

That was like, that's what you

had communicated was each of you

493

: 00:20:10

individually are doing so much

like pouring into other women.

494

: 00:20:14

Yeah, and it's like not super common for.

495

: 00:20:21

There to be people like in each of your

individual lives that are pointed to you.

496

: 00:20:25

Mm-hmm.

497

: 00:20:25

And so that's what you were saying was

like so beautiful about your group.

498

: 00:20:28

Mm-hmm.

499

: 00:20:29

And like your friendship was that

you were all being able to pour

500

: 00:20:31

into each other and it wasn't just

like one person in all the mm-hmm.

501

: 00:20:34

Giving.

502

: 00:20:35

Mm-hmm.

503

: 00:20:35

And then two, the second part is that

there wasn't, there isn't any like.

504

: 00:20:41

Jealousy or like comparison competition

or competition between like, oh,

505

: 00:20:45

who's better, who's like leading more,

who has like the bigger platform?

506

: 00:20:49

It was just like, yeah.

507

: 00:20:51

It was just pure friendship and like Yeah.

508

: 00:20:52

Wanting, like you, you all are wanting

to help each other grow and like

509

: 00:20:57

genuinely, like genuinely willing.

510

: 00:20:59

The good of the other.

511

: 00:20:59

Yes.

512

: 00:20:59

You genuinely will.

513

: 00:21:00

The good for each one of us and we

all, our faith is our, the central most

514

: 00:21:07

important thing in all of our lives.

515

: 00:21:09

Mm-hmm.

516

: 00:21:09

Which makes.

517

: 00:21:10

Such a difference in a friendship, and

we all personally just have such high

518

: 00:21:15

standards of excellence for ourselves,

for our work, for our family life, our

519

: 00:21:19

marriages, like we're all so growth minded

that when you put all of us together.

520

: 00:21:26

I don't know.

521

: 00:21:27

You would think that maybe it would

be like almost clashing, but it

522

: 00:21:30

actually is like such a beautiful like

dynamic of everybody being like, oh

523

: 00:21:34

wait, like we went through that too.

524

: 00:21:35

Like here's what we did

to like help our marriage.

525

: 00:21:37

Mm-hmm.

526

: 00:21:38

Or like, oh guys, I'm struggling

with this thing on Instagram.

527

: 00:21:40

And it's like, oh wait, like try this.

528

: 00:21:42

And yeah.

529

: 00:21:43

And in our faith, like this has been

my, you know, my prayer routine for

530

: 00:21:46

the last few months that's working.

531

: 00:21:47

And yeah.

532

: 00:21:48

And for me, I think in my life.

533

: 00:21:49

I'm the oldest daughter in my family.

534

: 00:21:52

I was the first grandchild

in my friend groups.

535

: 00:21:55

I was always the oldest.

536

: 00:21:57

I was the first of my friends to like go

to college and get married and you know,

537

: 00:22:02

or get a boyfriend and then get married

and then get a job and buy a house and

538

: 00:22:05

like the first to do a lot of things.

539

: 00:22:08

And so I'm just used to being the

one that like knows more, has to Well

540

: 00:22:13

one has to figure it out on your own.

541

: 00:22:14

Yes.

542

: 00:22:14

And then two, like you're

a step in front of Yeah.

543

: 00:22:19

A lot of your peers in a way.

544

: 00:22:20

In a sense.

545

: 00:22:20

Exactly.

546

: 00:22:21

And these girls are all older than me.

547

: 00:22:23

They've all been married longer than me.

548

: 00:22:25

And they're all moms.

549

: 00:22:26

Yeah.

550

: 00:22:27

And so they're like a step ahead

of me in my, which is nice.

551

: 00:22:29

Which I honestly love.

552

: 00:22:31

Yeah.

553

: 00:22:31

I'm like, please tell

me everything you know.

554

: 00:22:33

'cause I for once am not like leading.

555

: 00:22:37

Yeah.

556

: 00:22:37

Which is really nice.

557

: 00:22:38

And I think that's, I mean, just hearing

you share about your friendships with

558

: 00:22:42

these girls, it sounds like that's.

559

: 00:22:45

Like, I would venture to guess that a

lot of women don't feel like they have

560

: 00:22:49

like groups that are like so mm-hmm.

561

: 00:22:52

Life giving.

562

: 00:22:53

Yeah.

563

: 00:22:54

And I think it's cool that one, like, I

mean, have the expectation, this isn't

564

: 00:22:59

something that just happens overnight.

565

: 00:23:00

This is years and years of, this

is literally putting, I think, six

566

: 00:23:03

years or seven years of friendship

right forward to get to this place.

567

: 00:23:06

But it also, I don't know, like

do you wanna speak to some of the

568

: 00:23:11

things that you guys did to like.

569

: 00:23:13

Get to where you are now so that

you guys are having this super

570

: 00:23:17

fun trip and this experience of

such a life-giving friend group.

571

: 00:23:21

Yeah.

572

: 00:23:21

I feel like number one thing,

I mean two things come to mind.

573

: 00:23:25

One, again, it's that shared Catholicism

in our life, like shared vision for life.

574

: 00:23:30

Yes.

575

: 00:23:31

That's a good way to put it.

576

: 00:23:32

Like we have a similar vision

for our life and our family.

577

: 00:23:38

So we're able to bond over that

and it's all rooted in our Catholic

578

: 00:23:42

faith and it's all rooted in

living Christ-centered lives.

579

: 00:23:45

And so because we have that clear

path for our own lives and we share

580

: 00:23:49

those, that vision, we share those

values, we share those morals, we're

581

: 00:23:54

able to connect so much more deeply.

582

: 00:23:58

How do you So much deeply?

583

: 00:23:59

Yeah.

584

: 00:23:59

So, so you said it right more deeply.

585

: 00:24:02

So much more deeply.

586

: 00:24:02

Then friendships said,

don't share those things.

587

: 00:24:05

Yes.

588

: 00:24:05

And so like, you just immediately

get to the deep stuff.

589

: 00:24:07

Yeah.

590

: 00:24:07

You know, like it, it didn't

take very long for us to open up

591

: 00:24:10

and like get to the deep stuff.

592

: 00:24:11

And there was just this like mutual

respect and understanding and like

593

: 00:24:16

openness to be vulnerable because we

trusted the other person was gonna receive

594

: 00:24:21

us with love and with a faith lens.

595

: 00:24:25

Mm-hmm.

596

: 00:24:25

You know, and like encourage

us in a faith lens.

597

: 00:24:28

And then the other thing that

came to mind too was commitment.

598

: 00:24:30

Yeah.

599

: 00:24:31

And the fact that like.

600

: 00:24:32

A deep friendship when you're an adult.

601

: 00:24:35

Takes serious commitment,

like time commitment.

602

: 00:24:39

Seriously.

603

: 00:24:39

Yeah, because we've talked about

this a lot before, but it's like

604

: 00:24:42

in college or in school, like you

have like a best friend, you know?

605

: 00:24:46

Or a lot of people do have close

friends, and a lot of times it's because

606

: 00:24:48

you spend so much time with them.

607

: 00:24:50

Whether you're roommates, you're

living together, you have class

608

: 00:24:52

together, or you grew up together,

or you played sports together.

609

: 00:24:55

You spent so much time with this person.

610

: 00:24:57

And then as an adult, I have found

that it takes so much longer to build.

611

: 00:25:03

Deeper relationships like you might have

friends, maybe a lot of acquaintances,

612

: 00:25:08

but if you really think about the people

in your life, or at least for me, and I'm

613

: 00:25:10

like friends that I have made in the past

three years, since three or four years

614

: 00:25:16

since getting married and like moving

away and like starting in a new place.

615

: 00:25:20

Deep, deep, deep friendships

are very, very few.

616

: 00:25:23

'cause it's hard to get there unless

you share a lot of life together.

617

: 00:25:27

Yeah.

618

: 00:25:27

And for us girls, this group I'm talking

about, we all live in different states

619

: 00:25:32

and so we don't have the ability to

just like hang out every Friday night.

620

: 00:25:35

Um, but we text each other often

sharing about our lives, asking

621

: 00:25:40

for prayers, asking for advice,

um, celebrating each other.

622

: 00:25:44

Mm-hmm.

623

: 00:25:45

And then we have that commitment of.

624

: 00:25:47

Two hours on the phone

once a month all together.

625

: 00:25:50

Yeah.

626

: 00:25:50

And you're like scheduling the

next call before you hang up?

627

: 00:25:55

Most of the time it's the

first Monday of the month.

628

: 00:25:56

Yeah.

629

: 00:25:57

Or it's just the same.

630

: 00:25:57

It's on the calendar.

631

: 00:25:58

It's like a standing call the

first Monday of the month.

632

: 00:26:00

Yeah.

633

: 00:26:00

Every single month.

634

: 00:26:02

And it takes, and we know it's two hours.

635

: 00:26:03

Yeah.

636

: 00:26:03

And it takes sacrifice to say no to the

other things that are gonna come up.

637

: 00:26:08

Yeah.

638

: 00:26:08

To make that phone call or.

639

: 00:26:12

Yeah, like if you're, you know,

busy with work, you could easily

640

: 00:26:15

just say, no, I can't make it

tonight 'cause I'm busy with work.

641

: 00:26:17

Or, or it's happened before where like

we have an event going on or there's like

642

: 00:26:22

stuff that people wanna do that night

with like friends or family that I'm

643

: 00:26:25

like, uh, I'll be there, you know, right

after, you know, like, I have this call

644

: 00:26:30

or like, can we move it to the next day?

645

: 00:26:31

'cause I have this call.

646

: 00:26:32

And I think we all do that.

647

: 00:26:33

Like everybody in the group really tries

to prioritize like that sacred call time.

648

: 00:26:37

Yeah.

649

: 00:26:38

And.

650

: 00:26:39

Schedule things around it.

651

: 00:26:40

And also we have the support of

our amazing husbands that are

652

: 00:26:43

totally fine with us being on the

phone for two hours that night.

653

: 00:26:46

Yes.

654

: 00:26:47

And then I think too, just

the group chat, because Yeah.

655

: 00:26:50

When you're not living, like

spending daily life together mm-hmm.

656

: 00:26:55

Especially when you're

not in close proximity.

657

: 00:26:57

Mm-hmm.

658

: 00:26:58

Then being able to share

the little moments of every

659

: 00:27:01

single day with each other.

660

: 00:27:02

Yeah.

661

: 00:27:02

In real time.

662

: 00:27:03

I think plays a big part in that.

663

: 00:27:05

So yeah, so that was really fun.

664

: 00:27:07

Super fun.

665

: 00:27:08

So that was the first week of March,

first week into March, and that

666

: 00:27:11

was probably, yeah, big highlight.

667

: 00:27:14

Of the year, honestly, seriously.

668

: 00:27:17

Um, and then, and what else?

669

: 00:27:19

A few weeks later, my best friend

from Nebraska came to visit.

670

: 00:27:23

She was visiting another friend who

just had a baby who, okay, so this

671

: 00:27:27

other friend lived in Nebraska as

well and then moved to Colorado.

672

: 00:27:30

So I was also friends with her in

Nebraska, and she's also super close

673

: 00:27:33

to my best friend from Nebraska.

674

: 00:27:35

So it's just all these

great friends from Nebraska.

675

: 00:27:38

Um, if you don't know if.

676

: 00:27:39

You dunno.

677

: 00:27:40

A lot of our backstory, we were focus

missionaries in Lincoln, Nebraska for a

678

: 00:27:44

couple years, so that's how we lived in

Nebraska and know people from Nebraska.

679

: 00:27:48

Um, anyways, and she came to visit

and I hadn't seen her in a while

680

: 00:27:50

and she's also such a treasured

friendship and I love her so much.

681

: 00:27:54

Um, and it was super fun to just be able

to just hang out with her and catch up.

682

: 00:27:59

And.

683

: 00:28:00

I wish she lived in Colorado,

but she'll never leave Nebraska.

684

: 00:28:03

So, and it was her and it

was her birthday, so you

685

: 00:28:05

always gotta celebrate her.

686

: 00:28:06

Yes.

687

: 00:28:07

It was her birthday too.

688

: 00:28:08

So that's another thing, as an adult,

I feel like you just like, don't always

689

: 00:28:11

get to celebrate with your friends

or like maybe even your best friends,

690

: 00:28:14

'cause they might not live near you.

691

: 00:28:15

Yeah.

692

: 00:28:16

So that's, that's really special

too, that we got to do that.

693

: 00:28:18

Yeah,

694

: 00:28:20

and then it was a blur after that.

695

: 00:28:22

It was like Instagram girls

and then Nebraska friends.

696

: 00:28:25

And then I think we had a week in

between and I dunno what we did

697

: 00:28:28

that weekend, probably just prep

for, just try to get everything

698

: 00:28:31

done before we left this coming up.

699

: 00:28:32

Yeah.

700

: 00:28:32

And then we had the chosen and then we had

Washington and now we're freaking here.

701

: 00:28:36

Yeah.

702

: 00:28:38

So it's been a wild

month, but it's been fun.

703

: 00:28:40

It's been so fun.

704

: 00:28:42

Okay.

705

: 00:28:42

Besides like the activities

that we've been doing, they're.

706

: 00:28:47

Let's see a few other, well,

our house just got done being

707

: 00:28:51

like remodeled downstairs.

708

: 00:28:52

So last, okay, so last time we were

in the car, we were in the car.

709

: 00:28:55

We had just started because we had

just started our little home projects.

710

: 00:29:00

Yeah.

711

: 00:29:00

And we were living at my parents'

house because we couldn't live in our

712

: 00:29:05

house for like the first week while

were, um, doing all those projects.

713

: 00:29:08

Yeah.

714

: 00:29:09

So it is.

715

: 00:29:11

Pretty much officially done.

716

: 00:29:13

Yeah.

717

: 00:29:13

Like, oh, it looks gorgeous.

718

: 00:29:15

It, it's amazing.

719

: 00:29:16

New floors are in stone up the fireplace

cabinets, shelving on the walls.

720

: 00:29:23

Yes.

721

: 00:29:23

Like we literally just.

722

: 00:29:25

Want to sit on our couch and

do nothing except sta at and

723

: 00:29:28

just sta at the beautiful work.

724

: 00:29:29

Beautiful work.

725

: 00:29:30

And then, you know, we talked about

it last time, but we like cut a a hole

726

: 00:29:34

into our garage and built out a pantry.

727

: 00:29:37

Basically extended the kitchen into the

garage and built out a walk-in pantry.

728

: 00:29:40

And that basically kickstarted

the kitchen project We didn't

729

: 00:29:45

know we were about to dive into.

730

: 00:29:46

Yeah, unknowingly because the pantry

is large enough for there to be

731

: 00:29:50

cabinets like base and countertops

like base cabinets with countertops

732

: 00:29:54

on top and shelves on top.

733

: 00:29:55

And so then we ran into the issue of like,

oh crap, what color are we gonna choose?

734

: 00:30:02

The cabinets to be in the pantry?

735

: 00:30:03

Yes.

736

: 00:30:04

Okay, let me explain that.

737

: 00:30:05

What is the countertop that

we're gonna put in the pantry?

738

: 00:30:07

Yes.

739

: 00:30:08

And then we're like, well, crap.

740

: 00:30:09

We wanted to match our kitchen

and we don't really like the

741

: 00:30:13

cabinet color of our kitchen.

742

: 00:30:15

Yeah.

743

: 00:30:15

And so whatever we choose for our

pantry, like it's a big decision

744

: 00:30:18

because now we're gonna need to match.

745

: 00:30:21

Like that's gonna start whatever we choose

for the color, for the cabinets and the

746

: 00:30:24

pantry, we're gonna match in the kitchen.

747

: 00:30:26

Exactly.

748

: 00:30:26

So now we're choosing what do we want

our kitchen to look like for the the

749

: 00:30:31

foreseeable future and Yes, exactly.

750

: 00:30:34

And that's a big decision.

751

: 00:30:35

And we weren't really

planning on doing that.

752

: 00:30:37

I mean like after like the living room

project and everything, we were kind of

753

: 00:30:40

like, okay, that's all we're gonna do.

754

: 00:30:43

And.

755

: 00:30:44

The pantry was a last minute project

we weren't really expecting to do.

756

: 00:30:48

It was just kind of

like a vision, a dream.

757

: 00:30:50

And on the last, on the final

walkthrough, before we started the

758

: 00:30:54

whole living room project, I pitched

it to our contractor and I was

759

: 00:30:57

like, Hey, this is my like vision.

760

: 00:30:59

I wanna like cut into the garage, extend

the kitchen a little bit, add this pantry.

761

: 00:31:02

Is that even structurally possible?

762

: 00:31:04

Like, 'cause I'm pretty sure it's a

load bearing wall that we cut into.

763

: 00:31:07

And so he had to like.

764

: 00:31:08

Check with an engineer and all this stuff.

765

: 00:31:10

And literally that day he

was like, yep, it's possible.

766

: 00:31:13

Let's just do it.

767

: 00:31:13

I'm here.

768

: 00:31:14

You have my people, I'm gonna

start cutting a hole on Monday.

769

: 00:31:17

And we were like, what?

770

: 00:31:21

Okay.

771

: 00:31:22

Yeah.

772

: 00:31:22

Like it was gonna save a lot of money to

just add it on to the existing project and

773

: 00:31:26

do it now versus waiting a year or two.

774

: 00:31:27

Like all people, 'cause

like all the people were.

775

: 00:31:29

Coming out and it's just, okay, well the

floor guy's just gonna add a little bit

776

: 00:31:33

more floor and the paint guy is just gonna

paint a little bit more and the, yeah.

777

: 00:31:36

And our shelf guy's gonna just do

a little bit more shelving anyway.

778

: 00:31:38

And our original kitchen layout, sorry,

the network in our original kitchen

779

: 00:31:43

layout had literally no storage.

780

: 00:31:45

Zero.

781

: 00:31:45

Like it literally has four cabinets.

782

: 00:31:48

And I mean, that might sound like a lot.

783

: 00:31:50

It's not, you have pans in one spices

and oils in the other drink wear in one.

784

: 00:31:55

And then we have like cutting boards and.

785

: 00:31:58

Mixing bowls, bakey, bakeware

and bakeware and the other.

786

: 00:32:00

But like where does all

of our literal food go?

787

: 00:32:03

Yeah, like pantry food

and dishes and dishes.

788

: 00:32:06

We don't have anywhere to put our

dishes, so it was a whole thing.

789

: 00:32:08

So that's why we needed this pantry.

790

: 00:32:10

Like we needed pantry space desperately.

791

: 00:32:13

And so we were like, okay, willing to

make a little bit of like a stretch

792

: 00:32:16

here in the budget to get this

pantry going as soon as possible.

793

: 00:32:20

So we have space to put our food

and our dishes and all this stuff.

794

: 00:32:24

And that's where we run into the cabinet.

795

: 00:32:27

Countertop situation we're in

right now, because then we were

796

: 00:32:30

like, okay, we're just gonna do the

pantry and then we'll come back to

797

: 00:32:32

the kitchen like in a year or two.

798

: 00:32:35

And then as we're, you know, doing the

cabinets and picking the countertops,

799

: 00:32:39

that's what Trey was saying, where

he was like, well now we don't want

800

: 00:32:42

it to be different than the kitchen,

so we want it to match the kitchen.

801

: 00:32:45

So it all looks continuous.

802

: 00:32:47

So now we're having to sit down and

basically be like, what do we want our

803

: 00:32:49

kitchen to look like in a year or two?

804

: 00:32:51

Yep.

805

: 00:32:51

And as we're doing this.

806

: 00:32:53

We love home design.

807

: 00:32:54

Okay.

808

: 00:32:55

So we like go the extra mile.

809

: 00:32:56

So we literally went down, like picking

countertops was like my favorite thing

810

: 00:33:00

so far I feel like that we've done, we

literally went down to Denver to like

811

: 00:33:04

the supplier of, it's like this whole

area stone, like manufacturing district

812

: 00:33:09

of Denver, where they had like six

different stone and granite suppliers.

813

: 00:33:16

Yeah.

814

: 00:33:16

That we could Huge warehouses, walk

the floors of these huge warehouses.

815

: 00:33:21

And literally just like, and see there are

like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

816

: 00:33:24

of slabs, of different types of quartz,

quartzite, uh, marble, granite, dolemite,

817

: 00:33:30

like all the stones you could think of.

818

: 00:33:31

Yeah.

819

: 00:33:32

And so because the, the options we

were seeing at like our local small

820

: 00:33:38

thing, not what I was going for, it's

just your classic standard stuff.

821

: 00:33:42

It's just the fabricator that Yeah.

822

: 00:33:44

They just buy a few extra stock

stuff and I think they like realized

823

: 00:33:47

what kind of clients we were.

824

: 00:33:48

They were just like.

825

: 00:33:49

Okay, I'm gonna send you down

to the supplier so you can pick

826

: 00:33:52

out exactly what stone you want.

827

: 00:33:54

You can look at all the options

under the sun, and we can talk

828

: 00:33:59

about that experience in a second.

829

: 00:34:00

But basically what that made

us realize is whatever stone we

830

: 00:34:03

pick, because it's natural stone,

there's variation in the slabs.

831

: 00:34:07

And so whatever slab we pick for

the pantry, like in two years.

832

: 00:34:11

The slabs they have are not going to a

hundred percent match the pantry slab.

833

: 00:34:15

Like it'll be the same type of stone.

834

: 00:34:17

There's vari, they're gonna

look vastly different.

835

: 00:34:19

There's very like color variations like.

836

: 00:34:22

Veining and, and I really like symmetry

and things to match and Yeah, unity.

837

: 00:34:29

And I was like, Dre, I feel like we're

gonna need to do the countertops in

838

: 00:34:33

the kitchen now because we need to

buy the slabs together so they match.

839

: 00:34:36

Yeah.

840

: 00:34:37

So, so that, so that's where we're

at, y'all like, and you know.

841

: 00:34:42

Total.

842

: 00:34:42

Like these are first world problems.

843

: 00:34:44

Like it's not a problem,

it's just like, it's amazing.

844

: 00:34:46

It's amazing.

845

: 00:34:47

Just like, and we love the process.

846

: 00:34:49

We love the process of interior design.

847

: 00:34:50

It's truly like a dream

and a hobby of ours.

848

: 00:34:53

Um, so it's really fun, but it is

just hilarious the amount of time

849

: 00:34:58

we spent staring at different,

like whites, off whites, creams.

850

: 00:35:02

Oh my gosh, yes.

851

: 00:35:03

For the cabinets.

852

: 00:35:03

So the, yeah, the cabinet

color, we want it to be.

853

: 00:35:06

Creamy off white.

854

: 00:35:08

Yeah, like a creamy, like a,

but with the neutral undertones.

855

: 00:35:11

Yes.

856

: 00:35:11

Not, yes.

857

: 00:35:12

Yellow, not orange.

858

: 00:35:14

Not too white.

859

: 00:35:14

Pink.

860

: 00:35:15

Not, not peach pink.

861

: 00:35:16

Not purple.

862

: 00:35:17

Not peach.

863

: 00:35:17

And you'd think, you'd think it

wouldn't be hard to find that.

864

: 00:35:21

So we went through like all the colors

that Sherwin Williams had, Sherwin

865

: 00:35:24

William had, we went through all the

colors that Benjamin Moore, Benjamin

866

: 00:35:27

Moore, Benjamin Moore had Benjamin I,

we like kind of narrowed it down to one.

867

: 00:35:31

Yeah.

868

: 00:35:32

And then we would.

869

: 00:35:33

See it in a different light and we crap.

870

: 00:35:35

And then we would just go back

to the paint store and get more.

871

: 00:35:37

And so then eventually we ended up

getting like these basically like

872

: 00:35:41

white poster boards that we could Yeah.

873

: 00:35:43

Buy like a sample of the color

and paint it so it's like a

874

: 00:35:46

two foot tall poster board.

875

: 00:35:48

Mm-hmm.

876

: 00:35:48

That we can mm-hmm.

877

: 00:35:49

So just like a bigger slab that could show

us what the color would color be like,

878

: 00:35:51

we'd like, we would just have that taped

to our cabinets for like days at a time.

879

: 00:35:56

Yeah.

880

: 00:35:56

So there was one point where we

were like between two different

881

: 00:36:02

whites, pretty much, pretty much.

882

: 00:36:05

And we were like, okay, well we want,

this one is a little bit too dark,

883

: 00:36:09

this one's a little bit too light.

884

: 00:36:10

So I'm like talking to Chachi

BT asking Chacha Bt to gimme to

885

: 00:36:15

find the perfect middle ground.

886

: 00:36:17

The perfect middle between

this Benjamin Moore color and

887

: 00:36:21

this Sherwin William's color.

888

: 00:36:22

I think we were choosing between.

889

: 00:36:24

Dover White from Sherwin Sherman.

890

: 00:36:30

Sherwin.

891

: 00:36:31

Sherwin Williams.

892

: 00:36:32

Yeah.

893

: 00:36:32

It's not Sherman Williams?

894

: 00:36:35

No, I don't think so.

895

: 00:36:35

But now you have me second guessing,

or was it, or was it Swiss Coffee?

896

: 00:36:40

It was Swiss coffee at, at the very end.

897

: 00:36:41

You're right.

898

: 00:36:42

It was Swiss Swiss coffee at the very end.

899

: 00:36:43

It was Swiss Coffee.

900

: 00:36:43

Swiss coffee from Benjamin Moore.

901

: 00:36:44

Yep.

902

: 00:36:45

And Oggi White.

903

: 00:36:47

And from Sherwin Williams.

904

: 00:36:51

And then Creamy White.

905

: 00:36:53

Oh, and Creamy White, which no natural

white, creamy White Natural cream.

906

: 00:36:58

Natural cream from Benjamin Moore.

907

: 00:37:01

Those were our last three.

908

: 00:37:01

No, that's the one we landed on.

909

: 00:37:03

Right?

910

: 00:37:03

So those last, that's

the one Chate gave us.

911

: 00:37:06

Anyways, we basically, I'm asking Chachi

BT Hey, these are the two colors we, it's

912

: 00:37:11

deciding between, help me find one, give

us middle ground that's in between, that

913

: 00:37:15

doesn't have any yellow, that doesn't

have any pink, that doesn't have any

914

: 00:37:18

mom, that doesn't have any, whatever.

915

: 00:37:19

It has neutral undertones.

916

: 00:37:21

And so that I, we were in the weeds.

917

: 00:37:24

Yeah.

918

: 00:37:24

And it gave us pink colors

and it gave us natural cream.

919

: 00:37:28

That's what it gave us.

920

: 00:37:29

And so we went to the store.

921

: 00:37:31

We got the big sample, we put it up.

922

: 00:37:35

And that was the one that we liked for

the longest amount of time, which at

923

: 00:37:38

that point was the win that we needed.

924

: 00:37:40

We're like, we have liked

this one for a full week.

925

: 00:37:43

Okay, yeah, great.

926

: 00:37:44

That's a win.

927

: 00:37:45

So we submitted it to the cabinet people,

'cause once you submit the color of the

928

: 00:37:48

cabinet people, then it takes like eight

weeks for them to make it and stuff.

929

: 00:37:53

So it's a process.

930

: 00:37:55

It's a process.

931

: 00:37:56

So we rush to do that, but we, we

got that done and then once we picked

932

: 00:37:58

that, we could then pick our stone.

933

: 00:38:01

And Ah, okay.

934

: 00:38:03

So Mari had the stone.

935

: 00:38:05

The stone.

936

: 00:38:05

You guys I love, I did not know

you could love countertops so much.

937

: 00:38:12

Mari had this, I'm obsessed out

of body transcendental experience.

938

: 00:38:17

I did as we were walking through these,

had a warehouses of the manufacturing

939

: 00:38:22

district in Denver for stone.

940

: 00:38:25

So why don't you share the gorgeous

how the stone spoke to you?

941

: 00:38:29

Yeah, I mean, so we went to this

warehouses, there's like a hundred plus

942

: 00:38:33

slabs of stone and I mean we didn't

even walk into the court section 'cause

943

: 00:38:37

the courts is like the manmade and

I just like love natural materials.

944

: 00:38:41

And I was like, no.

945

: 00:38:42

Like if we're going this more custom

route, like I want a natural material,

946

: 00:38:47

I can tell when it looks fake.

947

: 00:38:48

And I just personally,

I'm like, I don't want it.

948

: 00:38:51

So we looked through all

the natural stones and.

949

: 00:38:54

I did not expect you guys to

literally get emotional, okay.

950

: 00:38:59

Walking through these aisles.

951

: 00:39:01

And honestly, I just feel

like nobody will understand.

952

: 00:39:03

Like, I just feel like they,

nobody will understand me.

953

: 00:39:05

I have one friend, they'll

all be like, you're crazy.

954

: 00:39:08

Nobody will understand me.

955

: 00:39:09

I know that and I'm ready for that.

956

: 00:39:11

I have maybe one friend in my life that I

feel like is on my level when it comes to

957

: 00:39:16

like feeling like design in their bones.

958

: 00:39:22

Yeah.

959

: 00:39:22

You know what I mean?

960

: 00:39:23

That I feel like she would maybe get it.

961

: 00:39:24

It's, it's two things for you.

962

: 00:39:25

It's one you just feel things

in general very deeply.

963

: 00:39:30

You experience the world

very in a very deep way.

964

: 00:39:34

I.

965

: 00:39:35

And then I guess you're right.

966

: 00:39:36

Two, it's, well, it's three things.

967

: 00:39:38

Then two, you're a love for design and

then it like goes into your bones, like

968

: 00:39:43

you were saying, and then I feel it.

969

: 00:39:45

And then three color God.

970

: 00:39:48

Oh, well, and God, yes, color.

971

: 00:39:53

I guess you could put color under

design because like Yeah, I love color.

972

: 00:39:57

Yeah.

973

: 00:39:58

So much.

974

: 00:39:58

Which might be hilarious for y'all to hear

because if you know me, you probably know

975

: 00:40:01

me as like the neutral queen, but like.

976

: 00:40:04

I love color and that'll

be a whole nother podcast.

977

: 00:40:06

Yeah, podcast episode.

978

: 00:40:07

But you're right, God, I also love God.

979

: 00:40:08

And then God.

980

: 00:40:08

Like how?

981

: 00:40:09

How God is like the designer

and creator of all thing.

982

: 00:40:14

And creator of all things.

983

: 00:40:14

And he's the ultimate designer.

984

: 00:40:16

He's the ultimate designer.

985

: 00:40:17

He is literally creative

director of the world.

986

: 00:40:20

Of the universe.

987

: 00:40:21

Of the universe, yeah.

988

: 00:40:23

Of everything.

989

: 00:40:24

God, what is bigger than the universe?

990

: 00:40:26

Everything.

991

: 00:40:26

The creator, creative director,

and like he is creator.

992

: 00:40:31

And an artist.

993

: 00:40:33

An artist.

994

: 00:40:34

And if like we are made in his

image and likeness, like we are

995

: 00:40:37

able to share in that creation,

like in his creative nature.

996

: 00:40:43

And I just think that is like

one of the greatest gifts

997

: 00:40:46

that he could have given us.

998

: 00:40:48

It is so wonderful and beautiful

to be able to participate in that.

999

: 00:40:51

And I feel like when I encounter

his creation, it just speaks to

: 1000

00:40:57,859 --> 00:41:01,759

me in such a deep way because

I am such a creative and like.

: 1001

00:41:02,494 --> 00:41:04,444

That's just like a gift

that he's given me.

: 1002

00:41:05,044 --> 00:41:09,244

And I mean, I did not expect this

to happen at the stone place.

: 1003

00:41:09,244 --> 00:41:11,119

And so we're walking down

these aisles of stone.

: 1004

00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:13,534

Yeah, we're walking down the

aisle and I'm just seeing these

: 1005

00:41:14,074 --> 00:41:16,264

gorgeous slabs of stone now.

: 1006

00:41:16,264 --> 00:41:18,094

Like I'm not talking like granite.

: 1007

00:41:18,154 --> 00:41:18,574

Okay.

: 1008

00:41:19,294 --> 00:41:20,254

Granite is ugly.

: 1009

00:41:20,284 --> 00:41:20,824

You guys.

: 1010

00:41:21,244 --> 00:41:23,764

Maybe there's a beautiful granite

out there, but I don't even know

: 1011

00:41:23,764 --> 00:41:25,564

the names of these stones like.

: 1012

00:41:26,104 --> 00:41:28,774

They're intricate, they're gorgeous.

: 1013

00:41:28,774 --> 00:41:33,184

I think one of the first ones I saw was

like these light blues and creams, and

: 1014

00:41:33,184 --> 00:41:37,024

there's these swirls and these like,

like shapes in it, and it literally

: 1015

00:41:37,024 --> 00:41:42,874

looks like a manmade painting of the

sky and of like clouds and like light

: 1016

00:41:43,144 --> 00:41:46,594

going through like the blue sky.

: 1017

00:41:46,654 --> 00:41:50,974

And I'm standing here like,

Trey, like this is not manmade.

: 1018

00:41:51,214 --> 00:41:52,654

This is, this is.

: 1019

00:41:53,584 --> 00:41:55,864

Uh, like God created thing.

: 1020

00:41:55,864 --> 00:41:57,394

This is the inside of a rock.

: 1021

00:41:57,514 --> 00:41:58,984

The inside of a giant mountain.

: 1022

00:41:59,049 --> 00:42:00,004

Cut outta a mountain.

: 1023

00:42:00,424 --> 00:42:01,174

Yeah.

: 1024

00:42:01,174 --> 00:42:03,064

And put it in this warehouse.

: 1025

00:42:03,124 --> 00:42:05,764

And I just like, I'm like,

this is just the mystery and

: 1026

00:42:05,764 --> 00:42:07,444

the beauty of God's creation.

: 1027

00:42:07,444 --> 00:42:10,534

It's like on the outside you see this

mountain, which is probably gorgeous

: 1028

00:42:10,534 --> 00:42:15,214

in itself, but like who knew cutting

into that mountain would bring forth

: 1029

00:42:15,214 --> 00:42:17,704

this like gorgeous piece of art.

: 1030

00:42:17,704 --> 00:42:17,764

Yeah.

: 1031

00:42:18,214 --> 00:42:19,504

That is so unique.

: 1032

00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:24,484

Unrepeatable and literally made

by God himself not made by a man.

: 1033

00:42:24,484 --> 00:42:26,854

Like I think if I saw a painting of

that, I'd be like, oh, that's pretty.

: 1034

00:42:26,854 --> 00:42:30,964

And then I'd move on because I

fully expect that from a person,

: 1035

00:42:31,294 --> 00:42:33,784

which is hilarious that we wouldn't

fully expect that from God.

: 1036

00:42:33,784 --> 00:42:37,654

But I think like the moment I had

was just like an awe and like a

: 1037

00:42:37,654 --> 00:42:40,804

reverence for God's creative nature.

: 1038

00:42:40,804 --> 00:42:40,864

Yeah.

: 1039

00:42:40,909 --> 00:42:45,724

I like what you said there about

like the mountain that this rock

: 1040

00:42:45,724 --> 00:42:47,704

was inside of was beautiful.

: 1041

00:42:48,214 --> 00:42:48,694

The rock.

: 1042

00:42:48,694 --> 00:42:49,984

This mountain was inside of No.

: 1043

00:42:49,984 --> 00:42:51,394

The mountain that this rock was inside of.

: 1044

00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:52,206

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

: 1045

00:42:52,294 --> 00:42:54,964

Like the mountain was probably

this gorgeous mountain

: 1046

00:42:55,084 --> 00:42:56,044

mountain in this landscape.

: 1047

00:42:56,224 --> 00:42:56,554

Yeah.

: 1048

00:42:56,674 --> 00:42:59,884

And like obviously you,

you can see God and beauty.

: 1049

00:42:59,884 --> 00:43:06,184

I think that's a very, uh, recognizable

thing that people see is like, they see,

: 1050

00:43:06,334 --> 00:43:08,254

they can see God and creation and beauty.

: 1051

00:43:09,004 --> 00:43:09,094

Mm-hmm.

: 1052

00:43:09,095 --> 00:43:11,164

But then the fact that God goes

even a step further where it's

: 1053

00:43:11,164 --> 00:43:12,724

like, it's not, I mean, just rock.

: 1054

00:43:12,729 --> 00:43:16,474

It's, it's below like what you

see, like you can't even see it.

: 1055

00:43:16,819 --> 00:43:19,969

You cut into it and it's

literally just this most simple,

: 1056

00:43:19,969 --> 00:43:21,499

mundane, like it's just rock.

: 1057

00:43:21,529 --> 00:43:21,829

Mm-hmm.

: 1058

00:43:22,129 --> 00:43:25,519

But then you cut into it and you

can like find these just beautiful,

: 1059

00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:27,889

stunning tapestries of rock.

: 1060

00:43:27,919 --> 00:43:28,699

Yes.

: 1061

00:43:29,269 --> 00:43:31,399

And, and so many different types.

: 1062

00:43:31,399 --> 00:43:35,629

And I mean, even so many colors,

so many colors, so many intricate

: 1063

00:43:35,629 --> 00:43:38,389

like designs that you don't expect,

that I had never seen on it.

: 1064

00:43:38,654 --> 00:43:43,394

Countertops lab and not necessarily

ones that we would maybe like

: 1065

00:43:43,394 --> 00:43:44,714

put in our house right now.

: 1066

00:43:44,714 --> 00:43:44,804

Mm-hmm.

: 1067

00:43:45,044 --> 00:43:48,194

Maybe it made me, it made me want to like

find a way to use them in the future.

: 1068

00:43:48,194 --> 00:43:48,254

Yeah.

: 1069

00:43:48,884 --> 00:43:49,754

But they're very intricate.

: 1070

00:43:49,844 --> 00:43:55,574

Um, but then even stuff that's

more commonly seen like marble.

: 1071

00:43:56,179 --> 00:43:57,109

Oh my gosh.

: 1072

00:43:57,169 --> 00:43:58,909

I mean like stunning.

: 1073

00:43:58,914 --> 00:43:59,194

Mm-hmm.

: 1074

00:43:59,279 --> 00:44:00,709

Stunning, stunning, stunning.

: 1075

00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:05,269

And even down to like the texture of

the stones, like how the different

: 1076

00:44:05,269 --> 00:44:10,249

types of stones feel and how they're

finished and everything is just like I.

: 1077

00:44:10,594 --> 00:44:11,614

It's a work of art.

: 1078

00:44:11,734 --> 00:44:13,174

It's truly a work of art.

: 1079

00:44:13,179 --> 00:44:13,249

Yeah.

: 1080

00:44:14,374 --> 00:44:17,644

And I just feel like people are probably

thinking I'm literally so nuts right now.

: 1081

00:44:17,644 --> 00:44:17,734

Yes.

: 1082

00:44:17,734 --> 00:44:19,294

Because it's like, it's a kitchen counter.

: 1083

00:44:19,294 --> 00:44:19,684

Mari.

: 1084

00:44:20,134 --> 00:44:23,704

Yes, it's a kitchen counter, but I

spend a lot of time in the kitchen

: 1085

00:44:24,094 --> 00:44:29,434

and design and beauty is like so

inspiring to me and work from home.

: 1086

00:44:29,434 --> 00:44:30,184

Like working from home.

: 1087

00:44:30,184 --> 00:44:33,214

Like we spend so much time at home

that I like, not even just because we

: 1088

00:44:33,214 --> 00:44:38,194

work from home, but like home is such a

beautiful sacred space for us that we.

: 1089

00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,349

Like, want to make it the most beautiful.

: 1090

00:44:42,919 --> 00:44:46,849

And so even putting this much

energy and thought into like a

: 1091

00:44:46,849 --> 00:44:51,589

kitchen counter is bringing us

just like joy in life right now.

: 1092

00:44:51,979 --> 00:44:52,879

Um, yeah.

: 1093

00:44:52,879 --> 00:44:54,769

But basically we had a really

hard decision in the end.

: 1094

00:44:54,769 --> 00:45:00,469

We were choosing between a really

gorgeous marble and then, um,

: 1095

00:45:00,739 --> 00:45:03,319

a dolomite called Taj Mahal.

: 1096

00:45:03,934 --> 00:45:04,474

Court site.

: 1097

00:45:05,074 --> 00:45:05,254

Oh, quartzite.

: 1098

00:45:06,004 --> 00:45:06,124

Mm-hmm.

: 1099

00:45:06,234 --> 00:45:06,869

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

: 1100

00:45:06,869 --> 00:45:09,214

A quartzite called Taj Mahal.

: 1101

00:45:09,694 --> 00:45:12,694

And we went back and forth for a little

bit because, um, I mean the marble

: 1102

00:45:12,694 --> 00:45:17,464

was definitely out of our, our our,

it was definitely out of our budget

: 1103

00:45:17,464 --> 00:45:18,934

after we learned what the price was.

: 1104

00:45:19,594 --> 00:45:21,064

So RIP to that.

: 1105

00:45:21,334 --> 00:45:21,454

Mm-hmm.

: 1106

00:45:21,814 --> 00:45:28,924

But then also there's a lot of nuances

and just things you have to be aware

: 1107

00:45:28,924 --> 00:45:32,074

of if you get marble in your kitchen

and just like really high maintenance.

: 1108

00:45:32,074 --> 00:45:32,584

And so.

: 1109

00:45:33,169 --> 00:45:36,109

Sadly, I don't think we're gonna go

with the marble, but the one that we are

: 1110

00:45:36,109 --> 00:45:38,179

probably gonna go with is still gorgeous.

: 1111

00:45:38,209 --> 00:45:39,889

Is still really gorgeous.

: 1112

00:45:39,889 --> 00:45:39,979

Mm-hmm.

: 1113

00:45:40,219 --> 00:45:42,979

And it's a very, very unique Taj Mahal.

: 1114

00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:48,739

Um, so when it's all in and ready, I can't

wait to show you guys, but that's been

: 1115

00:45:48,739 --> 00:45:50,029

a fun thing we've been working on too.

: 1116

00:45:50,089 --> 00:45:50,329

Yeah.

: 1117

00:45:50,419 --> 00:45:53,989

So that's been, I mean, not just

March, but Yeah, February and March.

: 1118

00:45:55,249 --> 00:45:55,549

Yeah.

: 1119

00:45:56,149 --> 00:45:58,789

I mean, that's been life.

: 1120

00:45:59,479 --> 00:46:00,289

It has been life.

: 1121

00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:01,339

How's your life going?

: 1122

00:46:01,789 --> 00:46:02,239

Oh yeah.

: 1123

00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:02,659

Lent.

: 1124

00:46:03,169 --> 00:46:05,839

It's also been, lent,

lent has been happening.

: 1125

00:46:06,259 --> 00:46:07,429

Uh, it's going pretty good.

: 1126

00:46:07,879 --> 00:46:12,949

Um, I gave up alcohol for Lent

and so that has challenges.

: 1127

00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:13,579

Yeah.

: 1128

00:46:13,759 --> 00:46:16,489

Um, especially since we've been

seeing like friends and traveling.

: 1129

00:46:16,549 --> 00:46:16,639

Mm-hmm.

: 1130

00:46:16,879 --> 00:46:17,779

Like I feel like that's harder.

: 1131

00:46:18,289 --> 00:46:18,709

Yeah.

: 1132

00:46:19,129 --> 00:46:21,409

But it's been going good, like.

: 1133

00:46:23,329 --> 00:46:24,109

I've been doing well.

: 1134

00:46:24,169 --> 00:46:24,379

Yeah.

: 1135

00:46:24,379 --> 00:46:27,499

So I, I've enjoyed the soberness of it.

: 1136

00:46:27,709 --> 00:46:27,829

Mm-hmm.

: 1137

00:46:28,189 --> 00:46:38,029

Um, and then ma, you're doing, I'm doing,

um, no screens after 8:00 PM um, and that

: 1138

00:46:38,029 --> 00:46:41,599

just basically like means all no screens,

like, not just like not watching TV or

: 1139

00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:46,039

not scrolling, but basically I'm just like

putting away screens and trying to mm-hmm.

: 1140

00:46:46,399 --> 00:46:47,449

Sanctify my evenings.

: 1141

00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:51,739

Um, and then I am doing

like what I'm adding.

: 1142

00:46:52,474 --> 00:46:55,354

'cause I like to like fast from something

and then add something in that's

: 1143

00:46:55,564 --> 00:46:58,444

prayerful and I'm adding in daily mass.

: 1144

00:46:58,534 --> 00:46:59,764

Monday through Friday.

: 1145

00:47:00,424 --> 00:47:00,784

Every day.

: 1146

00:47:00,784 --> 00:47:00,844

Yeah.

: 1147

00:47:01,624 --> 00:47:01,834

Yeah.

: 1148

00:47:02,914 --> 00:47:03,334

Every day.

: 1149

00:47:03,334 --> 00:47:04,354

Monday through Friday.

: 1150

00:47:04,414 --> 00:47:04,564

Yeah.

: 1151

00:47:04,564 --> 00:47:07,294

And so, and then I'm going Sunday, so

I'm basically going six times a week now.

: 1152

00:47:07,654 --> 00:47:10,354

And that's just a practice that I've

wanted to have for a really long time.

: 1153

00:47:10,414 --> 00:47:12,964

And I was kind of like,

okay, I'm gonna give this.

: 1154

00:47:13,444 --> 00:47:16,594

This little sacrifice to the Lord

of like choosing him over me and

: 1155

00:47:16,594 --> 00:47:19,414

rearranging my schedule so I can

make it to mass in the mornings.

: 1156

00:47:19,414 --> 00:47:19,415

Yep.

: 1157

00:47:20,374 --> 00:47:23,074

And because we do pretty much

everything together, that means

: 1158

00:47:23,074 --> 00:47:25,834

that you've basically, I'm

going to mass almost every day.

: 1159

00:47:25,924 --> 00:47:26,194

Yeah.

: 1160

00:47:26,224 --> 00:47:28,444

Now there's a few times where

you go without me, but Yeah.

: 1161

00:47:28,444 --> 00:47:32,644

So in addition to no alcohol,

I've also been doing mass Yeah.

: 1162

00:47:33,004 --> 00:47:33,904

Most days.

: 1163

00:47:33,904 --> 00:47:36,064

And I've really enjoyed it like it's been.

: 1164

00:47:36,634 --> 00:47:37,114

Amazing.

: 1165

00:47:37,114 --> 00:47:37,924

It's been nice.

: 1166

00:47:37,984 --> 00:47:39,034

It's been really nice.

: 1167

00:47:39,184 --> 00:47:43,024

It definitely is helping me

with my lented fast, I think.

: 1168

00:47:43,054 --> 00:47:43,984

Yeah, totally.

: 1169

00:47:43,989 --> 00:47:48,334

Like receiving sacraments and Yeah,

like the graces of mass is just like

: 1170

00:47:48,964 --> 00:47:50,434

leading into the other areas of my life.

: 1171

00:47:50,794 --> 00:47:55,204

I think it's making me more

reverent of the Eucharist.

: 1172

00:47:55,234 --> 00:47:55,264

Mm.

: 1173

00:47:55,594 --> 00:48:00,154

And it's making me more desirous of mass.

: 1174

00:48:00,964 --> 00:48:01,204

Okay.

: 1175

00:48:02,164 --> 00:48:05,974

Like the more I receive Jesus and the more

I go to mass, the more I'm just like, I.

: 1176

00:48:06,259 --> 00:48:07,699

I can't wait to go to Mass the next day.

: 1177

00:48:08,029 --> 00:48:08,329

Yes.

: 1178

00:48:08,329 --> 00:48:10,489

And I'm just like excited

to be there again.

: 1179

00:48:10,699 --> 00:48:10,789

Mm-hmm.

: 1180

00:48:10,789 --> 00:48:13,969

And more reverent in the sense that

like we have a bad habit of being, I

: 1181

00:48:13,969 --> 00:48:17,089

mean, I have a bad habit of being a few

minutes late everywhere I go, honestly.

: 1182

00:48:17,569 --> 00:48:19,129

But then that leads into mass as well.

: 1183

00:48:19,129 --> 00:48:22,759

And so for Sundays, we're like

honestly walking in with the other

: 1184

00:48:22,759 --> 00:48:26,029

families that have like five kids

a couple minutes late into mass.

: 1185

00:48:26,029 --> 00:48:28,009

And we have literally no

excuse for being late.

: 1186

00:48:28,759 --> 00:48:29,659

And so.

: 1187

00:48:30,694 --> 00:48:35,374

I'll be late to daily mass a couple

minutes and it'll, I've just like become

: 1188

00:48:35,374 --> 00:48:40,444

so much more aware of me being late to

mass and being late anywhere and just

: 1189

00:48:40,444 --> 00:48:43,534

like giving the Lord his due reverence.

: 1190

00:48:44,194 --> 00:48:47,404

And then also the mass fast has

been hard for me because I think

: 1191

00:48:47,404 --> 00:48:48,994

on Sundays it's normally like.

: 1192

00:48:49,339 --> 00:48:54,439

You're used to that, but I think on

a daily basis, I am not usually like

: 1193

00:48:54,439 --> 00:48:58,129

trying to eat breakfast by a certain

time so that I can get to mass by a

: 1194

00:48:58,129 --> 00:49:00,289

certain time so then I can receive Jesus.

: 1195

00:49:00,349 --> 00:49:04,129

And there's the whole like element

of daily mass is a lot quicker.

: 1196

00:49:04,129 --> 00:49:06,169

And so you need to start

your fast a lot sooner.

: 1197

00:49:06,229 --> 00:49:06,979

A lot sooner.

: 1198

00:49:06,979 --> 00:49:12,169

And I think that there's been a couple

times where, there's been several times

: 1199

00:49:12,169 --> 00:49:17,719

where I'm eating breakfast and it's,

it ends up being 50 minutes before.

: 1200

00:49:18,844 --> 00:49:19,564

The Eucharist.

: 1201

00:49:19,594 --> 00:49:19,654

Yeah.

: 1202

00:49:20,224 --> 00:49:20,944

En mass.

: 1203

00:49:20,944 --> 00:49:23,194

And there's been times where I'm

like, you know, I'm mulling it over.

: 1204

00:49:23,194 --> 00:49:27,004

I'm like, uh, 50 minutes

or like 53 minutes.

: 1205

00:49:27,009 --> 00:49:27,069

Yeah.

: 1206

00:49:27,304 --> 00:49:30,424

Like, you know, does it matter

if it's not a full hour?

: 1207

00:49:30,424 --> 00:49:33,064

Like, like it's all about

intention of heart, right?

: 1208

00:49:33,064 --> 00:49:36,754

Like I really like tried, but I

was just off by a few minutes and,

: 1209

00:49:37,444 --> 00:49:39,844

um, I went to confession about it.

: 1210

00:49:40,324 --> 00:49:44,044

Because it was weighing on me and

I felt bad and I received Jesus

: 1211

00:49:44,044 --> 00:49:45,934

like 55 minutes after I ate.

: 1212

00:49:45,934 --> 00:49:48,214

And I was trying to talk

myself out of feeling bad of it

: 1213

00:49:48,274 --> 00:49:49,474

about it, but I was like, no.

: 1214

00:49:49,474 --> 00:49:55,384

Like there is intention behind just

like the things that the church

: 1215

00:49:55,384 --> 00:49:58,114

asks us to do, and it's just small.

: 1216

00:49:58,129 --> 00:49:59,164

It's a sacrifices.

: 1217

00:49:59,224 --> 00:50:00,874

Yeah, it's like a small sacrifice.

: 1218

00:50:00,874 --> 00:50:03,514

And I remember when I first

learned about the mass fast.

: 1219

00:50:04,099 --> 00:50:06,769

I was kind of like, okay, well what's,

I still don't, what's the reason?

: 1220

00:50:06,949 --> 00:50:09,409

Like I kind of know, okay,

let me say what I think it is.

: 1221

00:50:09,409 --> 00:50:09,499

Okay.

: 1222

00:50:09,499 --> 00:50:10,969

And you can tell me if I'm right or wrong.

: 1223

00:50:11,899 --> 00:50:18,289

It's because it's a way for our body

to naturally like hunger for Jesus.

: 1224

00:50:18,469 --> 00:50:18,829

Yeah.

: 1225

00:50:19,459 --> 00:50:20,689

Is there an added layer to that?

: 1226

00:50:20,689 --> 00:50:21,709

'cause that's all I know.

: 1227

00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:24,019

I, that was the biggest

thing that stuck out to me.

: 1228

00:50:24,019 --> 00:50:24,109

Mm-hmm.

: 1229

00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:28,729

I think one like fasting just strengthens

our soul and is again, kind of a sign of

: 1230

00:50:28,954 --> 00:50:31,729

reverence and it's just a good practice.

: 1231

00:50:31,939 --> 00:50:32,449

Yeah.

: 1232

00:50:32,479 --> 00:50:33,199

Spiritual practice.

: 1233

00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:40,609

Um, but then also, yes, this concept

of hungering for Jesus, kind of

: 1234

00:50:40,609 --> 00:50:43,189

emulating the way he thirsts for us.

: 1235

00:50:43,189 --> 00:50:49,939

Um, and just basically like as a sign

of like, you are all we need, Lord.

: 1236

00:50:50,059 --> 00:50:52,939

You know, like, I just

need your Eucharist.

: 1237

00:50:53,374 --> 00:50:57,724

I can do with being hungry

for an hour and let's be real.

: 1238

00:50:57,724 --> 00:51:01,564

Most times, like we're so fortunate, we

probably ate the hour before, so most

: 1239

00:51:01,564 --> 00:51:03,274

times we're not even starving by mass.

: 1240

00:51:03,424 --> 00:51:03,694

I like that.

: 1241

00:51:04,504 --> 00:51:08,104

Perspective where it's not just

thinking, oh, like I'm hungry,

: 1242

00:51:08,104 --> 00:51:11,309

or this is inconvenient, so

I'm fasting this for you, God.

: 1243

00:51:11,309 --> 00:51:11,709

Mm-hmm.

: 1244

00:51:12,369 --> 00:51:16,564

And you know, maybe you take it

the next step where, oh, this, my

: 1245

00:51:16,564 --> 00:51:18,814

hunger for food right now mm-hmm.

: 1246

00:51:19,084 --> 00:51:21,844

Is like, I should have

that hunger towards God.

: 1247

00:51:21,849 --> 00:51:21,949

Mm-hmm.

: 1248

00:51:22,249 --> 00:51:25,684

But I like what you just said of

taking it to that even further level

: 1249

00:51:25,684 --> 00:51:31,864

where it's, oh, this is like how God

is hungry and for us, and it's like.

: 1250

00:51:32,614 --> 00:51:35,524

It's like a peak into

how God is hungry for us.

: 1251

00:51:35,524 --> 00:51:35,584

Yeah.

: 1252

00:51:35,614 --> 00:51:36,269

Right, right.

: 1253

00:51:36,574 --> 00:51:40,894

Like it's like a little small, a little

sliver that we get to experience of

: 1254

00:51:40,894 --> 00:51:44,074

his love for us and his thirst for us.

: 1255

00:51:44,524 --> 00:51:48,154

And so that's kind of what I've been

reflecting on as we've been going to

: 1256

00:51:48,154 --> 00:51:52,384

daily mass and I've been trying to like

keep an eye on the time and be like,

: 1257

00:51:52,384 --> 00:51:53,794

oh my gosh, I gotta get up earlier.

: 1258

00:51:53,794 --> 00:51:56,704

So I got, I can eat breakfast

earlier so I can do my mass fast.

: 1259

00:51:56,764 --> 00:51:59,854

And then basically talking it out

with a friend too, and like coming

: 1260

00:51:59,854 --> 00:52:01,324

to the conclusion of just like.

: 1261

00:52:01,909 --> 00:52:05,749

I almost asked the priest in confession, I

almost asked him like, Hey look, I'm gonna

: 1262

00:52:05,749 --> 00:52:09,709

bring this up, but like, does it really

matter if it was like seven minutes off?

: 1263

00:52:09,769 --> 00:52:13,729

You know, like, could Jesus understand,

you know, because like he knows my

: 1264

00:52:13,729 --> 00:52:18,379

heart, but then I didn't because

I thought of like just the other

: 1265

00:52:18,379 --> 00:52:22,849

things that the Lord asks of us to

keep the Sabbath day holy right.

: 1266

00:52:22,849 --> 00:52:27,559

To keep to, to go to mass on Sundays

is an obligation as Catholics.

: 1267

00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:27,829

Mm-hmm.

: 1268

00:52:28,324 --> 00:52:32,884

The church doesn't say, yeah, that's

an obligation, but if you miss

: 1269

00:52:32,884 --> 00:52:34,684

a Sunday, don't worry about it.

: 1270

00:52:34,684 --> 00:52:37,234

Like as long as your heart's in

the right place, as long as you

: 1271

00:52:37,234 --> 00:52:39,904

wanted to go, don't worry about it.

: 1272

00:52:39,904 --> 00:52:43,384

Now there is a difference if you tried

your best to go and you couldn't make it.

: 1273

00:52:43,384 --> 00:52:48,184

For example, you're in Guam and you

tried to find a Catholic church.

: 1274

00:52:48,244 --> 00:52:48,334

Cool.

: 1275

00:52:49,054 --> 00:52:50,374

No, I mean that's like a legit thing.

: 1276

00:52:50,374 --> 00:52:53,194

I'm like, if you're in a place and you

try and find a Catholic church and there

: 1277

00:52:53,194 --> 00:52:54,994

aren't a, there isn't a Catholic church.

: 1278

00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:56,749

Then you tried your best.

: 1279

00:52:56,749 --> 00:52:57,769

That's not a sin.

: 1280

00:52:58,129 --> 00:53:03,229

However, if you're in Mexico, I bet

you, I know there's a million Catholic

: 1281

00:53:03,229 --> 00:53:07,429

churches, if you're in Europe, if

you're in Jamaica, if you're in

: 1282

00:53:07,459 --> 00:53:11,449

wherever, like I think people use

traveling a lot as an excuse not to go.

: 1283

00:53:11,449 --> 00:53:14,299

But it's like there are even Catholic

churches all around the world.

: 1284

00:53:14,299 --> 00:53:18,289

So like the excuses to not go to mass

on a Sunday would really be if you're in

: 1285

00:53:18,289 --> 00:53:21,229

the middle of nowhere where there's no

Catholic churches or you're ill, right?

: 1286

00:53:21,229 --> 00:53:24,109

Like you're sick and you like it's

bad for you to leave the house.

: 1287

00:53:24,499 --> 00:53:24,949

So.

: 1288

00:53:26,149 --> 00:53:28,759

The church doesn't say like, oh

yeah, if you miss a couple masses

: 1289

00:53:28,759 --> 00:53:32,509

here and there for whatever

reasons, like, then you're good.

: 1290

00:53:33,139 --> 00:53:34,274

No, no.

: 1291

00:53:34,729 --> 00:53:37,159

You know, or like when it talks

about, I don't know, like sex before

: 1292

00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:40,369

marriage, like, oh, you're, you're

fine if you have sex before marriage

: 1293

00:53:40,369 --> 00:53:45,319

once, you know, but like if you, if it

was just one time, it doesn't count.

: 1294

00:53:45,799 --> 00:53:46,159

Yeah.

: 1295

00:53:46,219 --> 00:53:48,049

Like, it's just not like that.

: 1296

00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:48,409

Right.

: 1297

00:53:48,409 --> 00:53:49,639

And so if the Lord.

: 1298

00:53:50,194 --> 00:53:55,024

Asks and if the, the church asks of us

to fast for an hour for 60 minutes before

: 1299

00:53:55,024 --> 00:53:57,934

we receive him, then it's 60 minutes.

: 1300

00:53:57,964 --> 00:53:58,054

Yep.

: 1301

00:53:59,224 --> 00:54:03,184

And I'm open to being changed

to, to my mind being changed.

: 1302

00:54:03,184 --> 00:54:06,514

But I feel like that's really where

my heart settled and where I was

: 1303

00:54:06,514 --> 00:54:08,494

like, that's the sacrifice I can make.

: 1304

00:54:08,494 --> 00:54:12,424

And that's the Lord is more important

than like, and it's such a small

: 1305

00:54:13,024 --> 00:54:14,194

sacrifice, me eating seven minutes later.

: 1306

00:54:14,674 --> 00:54:14,764

Yeah.

: 1307

00:54:14,764 --> 00:54:15,814

It's such a small sacrifice.

: 1308

00:54:15,814 --> 00:54:16,924

It's a small sacrifice.

: 1309

00:54:17,524 --> 00:54:17,854

So, so.

: 1310

00:54:18,724 --> 00:54:19,204

That's that.

: 1311

00:54:19,564 --> 00:54:20,134

That's that.

: 1312

00:54:21,094 --> 00:54:22,954

Well, that's it.

: 1313

00:54:22,954 --> 00:54:24,874

That's kind of in our life recently.

: 1314

00:54:24,874 --> 00:54:25,864

Some of our updates.

: 1315

00:54:25,864 --> 00:54:26,254

Yeah.

: 1316

00:54:26,824 --> 00:54:27,424

This was fun.

: 1317

00:54:27,484 --> 00:54:30,424

I hope you enjoyed the

casual life updates.

: 1318

00:54:30,754 --> 00:54:31,564

Yes, definitely.

: 1319

00:54:31,564 --> 00:54:32,734

Let us know if you enjoyed this.

: 1320

00:54:32,734 --> 00:54:35,164

We haven't really done

this kind of podcast.

: 1321

00:54:35,164 --> 00:54:39,244

We usually kind of do more

like topic focused and like.

: 1322

00:54:39,664 --> 00:54:40,984

Kinda a teaching moment.

: 1323

00:54:41,164 --> 00:54:45,604

You know, educational, educational, like

really pouring value, which I love to do.

: 1324

00:54:45,604 --> 00:54:47,944

And those are honestly a lot of

the podcasts that I listen to.

: 1325

00:54:47,944 --> 00:54:49,354

So that's kinda what I gravitate towards.

: 1326

00:54:50,074 --> 00:54:52,564

But this has been really fun

for me to record with you.

: 1327

00:54:52,594 --> 00:54:53,554

Yeah, I've enjoyed this.

: 1328

00:54:53,644 --> 00:54:57,364

So if you like this style of

podcast and wanna see this more

: 1329

00:54:57,364 --> 00:54:59,854

from Trey and I, let us know.

: 1330

00:55:00,124 --> 00:55:03,964

DM us on at Ever Be podcast

or at Mari c Wagner.

: 1331

00:55:04,444 --> 00:55:05,434

Either one will see it.

: 1332

00:55:05,434 --> 00:55:08,854

And yeah, let me know if you want

more, 'cause we'd be happy to do more.

: 1333

00:55:09,964 --> 00:55:10,294

All right.

: 1334

00:55:10,444 --> 00:55:10,984

See you next week.

: 1335

00:55:11,674 --> 00:55:11,824

See ya.