Re-Run: The Truth About Food Freedom & Femininity | Flo Catholic Nutritionist

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Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,

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Welcome to ever be.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Welcome back to Ever Be everybody.

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Today's podcast is gonna be

one that I am so pumped about.

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'cause if you've been listening for

a while, you know I have just been

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getting into all things like holistic

living, holistic nutrition, clean

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living, all the things we are here

to optimize our health and wellness.

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And Flo is gonna help us do this today.

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So Flo, welcome to ever Beat.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Thanks for having me.

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I'm so excited.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: I would

love for you to just kind of start out by

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telling us who you are and what do you do.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes, so I'm Florencia.

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I'm the founder of the Catholic

Nutritionist and we are a Catholic women's

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health practice, specifically for Catholic

women who want to optimize their health

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through a holistic lens and without

destroying their relationship with food.

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So we care a lot, a lot about really

seeing food as a gift and as a blessing.

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And how do you, how do you use it

strategically while also having

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a lot of peace and freedom.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Yeah, that sounds amazing.

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Can you just kind of dive a little

bit about into your journey,

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like how did you even start this?

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What was the journey that led you

from, I know we talked about you

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being a missionary and I read a little

bit about this on your website, you

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know, what journey, what was the

journey that took you from being

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an exhausted missionary, which.

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I can relate, anybody in, in, in ministry

can relate, um, to becoming a holistic

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nutritionist and a fem instructor.

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I know that you also do stuff in

kind of the fertility realm, so share

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about what that journey was like.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

I wish it was a cute story, but it's

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a lot of rock bottoms over and over,

which is really like most people that

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you will meet in the health industry.

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It's a very similar, and that's why

if if you, someone like really cares,

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all of a sudden it's typically because

they've gone through a lot, a lot, a lot.

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So for me, I call it this

like terrible trifecta.

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It was like my Bermuda triangle of

my life was really horrible Periods.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Devastating, long, excruciating,

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like, and just being told to get on

birth control from the time I was

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like 14 on that was my only option.

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Then really, really bad gut

issues where it was like,

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well then just stop eating me.

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Wait, you can just take me and like

going back and forth and like just

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a lot of pain every single day.

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So really struggling with food.

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From a symptomatic sense, but then

also struggling with food, with, um,

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a very long history of disordered

eating and very disordered body image.

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And so this little Bermuda triangle, my

little, my little battleship finally sank

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actually my first year as a missionary.

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Um, because I just like spiraled a few

different factors, which if you've ever.

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Struggled with disordered eating

and you think that it's, you'll

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be like, oh, it's like done.

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Like that's the kind of the mindset that

I had that I was like, oh, it's over.

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Like God healed that.

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That was something I

struggled with in high school.

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We're past it and it took me a

really, really long time and it took

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me hitting kind of rock bottom again

to realize that this is like a scar

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that's always gonna be on my heart.

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And sometimes scar tissue, it gets

a little, like, if it gets moved the

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wrong way, the pain opens back up.

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And that's kind of how I

describe what happened there.

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So I kind of like.

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Plummeted into the worst things

that I had ever done in terms of

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like how I was treating myself.

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And it wasn't until my second year I,

oh, well, I got engaged in the middle

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of that, which is like a very bizarre,

bizarre season to be living when

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you're already like, um, surviving.

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And then it was through, like I started

tracking my cycle and my Creighton

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instructor, I remember her being like, oh.

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Yeah, you need to go see a doctor and

that like my stomach dropped because it

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was like always something that I had like

been confused and worried about and I was

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so excited to track my cycle, but then

to be told like, oh, there's obviously

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things that are wrong with your hormones,

but then not be told what to do about it.

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I found it like really distressing

and that was kind of the way.

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Call that I needed where the Lord was

like, Hey, like what you're doing,

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like literally goes against the way

I designed your body to function.

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So I got like super into everything and

really realized what the Lord's plan was.

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And then I was like, man, Catholic, women

of all women are the ones that should

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be like the, the heralds of this truth.

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The ones that are able to like

scream this off the mountaintops.

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So then quit, went back to

school, and then here we're.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Oh my goodness.

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That is amazing.

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Sounds like a rocky road you were

on, but you're so right when you talk

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about how like the people that know

so much or the people that really

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care, or the people that are really

in the wellness industry, I think

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especially there to like help with.

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All of this kind of stuff is because

they went through it themselves.

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They experienced life

before and life after.

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It's kind of like your own

little testimony, you know,

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like pre Jesus, post Jesus.

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Not that this is Jesus, but you know,

like you've experienced what life

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was like before and then you, I.

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Actually work towards finding healing

and now you're experiencing the freedom

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afterwards, which is so amazing.

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So first of all, thank you

for the work that you do.

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I bet that you're just helping so

many women and I think just the

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story you just shared, probably so

many listeners can relate to one

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or several parts of that journey.

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Um, none of these are like one-off

situations that, you know, you're

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weird for experiencing that.

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Um, I think it's very

unfortunately very common.

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So.

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Thank you for sharing that.

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curious, when was the turning point that

you feel like you had where you realized,

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oh, my body's not just broken or bad.

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You know, there's actually just

something deeper that's going on

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that I just haven't found out yet.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It was a, I like that you, thank

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you for asking it that way because

like, it truly was this battle

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and this war against my body

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

being like, oh, it is just, I guess it's

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broken, and like, why does it always

feel like it's working against me?

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Um, and there was a very distinct turning

point, um, at Leanne Bowens Ranch.

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Know Leanne.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yes.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Okay.

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She's an artist.

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We love her.

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And she like was so gracious and

had a bunch of the women missionary

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over to her ranch for a little

retreat, which we needed desperately.

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And that's the good thing about a

retreat is that it like pulls you

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out of your environment where you can

like start to think and breathe again.

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And I was living in like.

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Long Beach, California, which

is very tight city, very

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busy, and it was like COVID.

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So it was a very unpleasant

time to live in a city.

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So we go out to like this beautiful

green rolling hills, and at one point she

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shared her testimony, like right in the

beginning when we got there, she shares

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her testimony and part of it is like that,

that one saying of like, what will you

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do with this one wild and precious life.

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And it was that reflecting on that,

that then led her into her art business

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and like really giving her heart to

the Lord in many, many other ways.

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And I remember hearing that question

and like being sad and hearing

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the question and being like, oh.

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Like I'm, why does it feel

like I'm like not living right?

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Like I'm, I just got married.

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I am like doing the job that

I wanted to do for years.

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I'm living in a city that I thought

that I wanted to live in really bad.

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Like all these things are like, good,

but why does it feel like I'm like,

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totally, my life is like passing

me by, or I am just like not living

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it the way that God wants me to.

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And so I was just like

immediately thrown into.

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Despair almost and being like, you

know when something hits you and then

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you're just like in your own world.

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And so I remember like walking through

the fields, she like took us on a

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walk to look at, it's a cattle ranch

that they live on and she took us on

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a walk through the fields and I'm like

staring down at the grass and I'm like,

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: no.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

like if little me met me, if

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like 7-year-old me met me, she'd

be like, what are we doing?

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Like.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

like lost girl.

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I,

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

And like on the outside, everything's

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going great, but I feel like

only she would know because she'd

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be like, why are you so sad?

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Like, why do you cry every day?

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And like, why, why are you

like destroying your body?

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And like all of these different things.

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And so it really was this huge gut

check of being like, man, Lord,

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like I feel like if 7-year-old me

met me, she would be disappointed.

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And like, how did you even make

my heart, like that heart that

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I had as like a little girl?

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Like what's, what's even in it?

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Because now I feel like I just like

layered all these other things of like

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other people's expectations or things

that I thought might be cool, but maybe

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didn't like actually align with who I am.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

so then I was like.

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I literally don't know how to pray

through this, but they had adoration

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in her living room that night and so

I was like, I'm gonna open Genesis.

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I was like, where?

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Where else do you go?

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But the very beginning when

you have no idea what to do.

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So I opened Genesis two and I

like reread the creation account

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and I swear it was like I had

never read it in my entire life.

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I like read it and it was like jumping

off the page where I was like, oh my gosh.

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Like everything we

needed was in the garden.

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Like when we say, and this was like when

that one song, I think it's Stephanie

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Retinger, about like This is the Garden.

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That one was like.

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Really popular and I

would listen to it a lot.

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And so I would like pray with

this idea of the garden a lot.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

go into the garden in Genesis

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and I'm like, everything's there.

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Our vocation, like all I ever wanted

was to get married and now I have like

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the love of my life right next to me.

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And then he gives us like the

animal stick care of, all I ever

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wanted was like a bunch of cows and

horses and like every little girl.

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Um, and then he's like the land

to take care of and like all of

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the fruit off of the trees to eat.

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And I was like, oh my gosh.

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He gave us like.

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That's, that's what a good life is.

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And I don't know if you remember

this, but you were at that training,

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but at my first year summer training

father, or sorry, Monsignor Shea gave

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a talk on the Art of Living Well,

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

and it changed my brain

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because he was like.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: whole,

that whole summer that I was there with

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you, that whole summer changed my brain.

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So I'm like, I do remember that talk.

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I don't know if I specifically

remember like the main points of that.

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'cause I was also like, I don't

know, 20, like soaking everything up.

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It was just game changing for me.

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But anyways, keep going.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

But he just kept talking about how

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he was like, you guys of all people

should know how to live well and

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you should be an example of that.

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And like, I remember one of the examples

he gave, he was like, do you know

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why I have like Rombauer Zinfandel

at Chesterton's at the bar on campus?

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Like, do you know why we sell that there?

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Because I think it's one of the best

wines in the world, and I need you

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to know what good wine tastes like.

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Before you go out onto a college

campus and around people that

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are just like drinking to drink

and to like drown themselves, you

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know, all these kinds of things.

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And I just like that year I thought

a lot about like, what does it

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mean to like rediscover the art of

living well and to like live a life

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that's worthy of imitation and.

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Just going through that again and

being like, wow, like in the garden,

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that's like what living well is.

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And so then I was like, wait, I

cannot be like at odds with my

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body and at odds with food if this

is like a gift that he's given.

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It was like a very, very clear

moment of being like, and then

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really being him, being like, do

you believe that you're made good?

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Like when I said that to you in the

garden, like, do you believe that?

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And at that point, no, I couldn't say

that I did, you know, but it was a

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journey that he was like trying to take

me on and that's I think why he led it.

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Like kind of crash and burn the way that

it needed to in order that I would be

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like, Lord, I have to ask you again.

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Like I feel like I just

wasn't asking anymore

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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That is incredible.

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I love that you had that moment like.

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I know you weren't like in the jungle or

in a garden, but like in, in, in nature,

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

the fields.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: like

in creation, in god's like beautiful

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creation where he like brought you back

to the garden and like his intention

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for you and your body and how good you

are and how good his creation is and how

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he gave us everything that we needed.

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Um, sometimes we need to be like

taken out of our day to day and our

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daily routine and our environment to.

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Actually feel like we hear God speak into

our lives, so I'm not surprised that's

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when you had your like big aha moment.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Truly, truly, I think it's like, he's

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like, girl, we gotta get you moving.

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We, we gotta change the scenery so that

your brain can be opened in your heart.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Totally.

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Totally.

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So for those who might be unfamiliar

with the term like holistic

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nutrition, how would you describe it?

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How is it different from

maybe conventional approaches

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that people are more used to?

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And if you wanna answer within

that, who might benefit from

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this type of nutrition approach?

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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I think one of the like

starkest contrasts.

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Between holistic and or functional

care and conventional care

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is that we are really working

to see the person as a whole.

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And whereas like the common

experience of a woman is like,

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oh, you have really bad periods.

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Okay, go ahead and go talk to your ob.

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And then when you're at

the ob, you're like, yeah.

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And when my period starts,

my skin freaks out.

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And they're like, oh, good.

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Then you should go talk to your derm.

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And then you're with the derm and you're

like, Hey, and I started this medication

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and it's like my stomach is like.

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Torn up and they're like, Hmm,

maybe we should get you with the gi.

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Like we're just like used to being

split up in a ton of like tiny pieces.

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And I feel like as women, it's so

rare that we actually go to get

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care and have everything be tied

together, which everything is like

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no system in the body works alone.

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Your cycle is not completely separate.

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Separate from your skin and it's not

completely separate from your gut

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and it's not completely separate from

like your mood and your mental health.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

single thing works as one

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and it influences each other.

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And so I feel like it's the

only way that makes sense.

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And then in a particular sense, like

as Catholics, I think it's the only way

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that makes sense and can really help

to like honor creation when we see the

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whole, of course we need conventional

medicine and western medicine for a lot of

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things, but I do think having a holistic

perspective just in our own lives.

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Really can help us, um, kind of wash

away a lot of the frustration of

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thinking that your body is broken and

that it just doesn't make any sense.

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Whereas it's like, well, yeah,

like we have to sum up the parts.

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We have to put it all together

for everything to start to click.

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So holistic, I would really

think is just like whole person.

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Putting together all the systems

of the body and we're looking for

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optimal health rather than only ever

treating things when we're sick.

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Um, and like how much, how much of

our sickness in our world and in

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our country right now is because

of our nutrition and our lifestyle.

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Like how much of it is just because

of the way that, that the daily habits

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that we have completely go against the

way God created our bodies to function.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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Absolutely.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's brutal.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: like

your Catholic faith informs this approach?

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Like, how does your Catholic

faith influence the way you

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approach nutrition and wellness?

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Hmm.

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I love that.

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Well, one, we're all big.

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Uh, my whole team is all Catholic and

actually all preview former missionaries.

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So like we all have very similar

formation, which is really fun.

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Um, we're all big TOB girlies.

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So really technology of the body and

the, the, the meaning, the spousal

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meaning of the body and beginning

to see that a lot of people do walk

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around like they're just, um, wearing

skin suits, soles with skin suits.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

That is like completely anti-Catholic.

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Like that is, that is not

how we see the body at all.

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But it's kind of this idea that it's

like, oh, this is just a container.

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My soul is what's really, really holy

and good and that's worth taking care of.

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Um, and it is honorable for me to

like pray and go to confession and

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participate in sacraments, but we

go to the opposite extreme and then

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it's like, well then it would be.

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Sinful or selfish or self-centered

if I actually cared about the body

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as well, when really we have to like

reintegrate the mind, the body, and the

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soul to like live a good human life.

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So that's a big thing about

like reintegrating it.

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That's one of the the biggest things

that we work on with women is being

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like, Hey, like you are totally

allowed to care about this and you

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are so right to care about this.

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And that's actually one of the most

generous things you can do as a Catholic

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woman, especially if you dream of like.

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Being a mom one day, or maybe you

work in ministry and you serve so

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many people or whatever it may be

like your body's gonna go with you,

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so you have to start paying attention.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Totally.

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And I just, I love the whole concept

of like integrating all together,

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and I think that's part of why I.

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Feel like the holistic and functional

integrative approach is so in line with

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Mm-hmm.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: a

Christian worldview because we do

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believe that it is all integrated,

like God didn't create all these

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parts to be separate from each other.

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They all inform each other,

they all affect each other.

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And while we're going through physical

healing with whatever it might be like.

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God is also working in our

heart and in our soul to

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

have there be emotional

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healing and spiritual healing.

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And I mean, I've

experienced that firsthand.

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Like we've shared our fertility journey

online and it has been a health journey,

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a a long journey that we are like

constantly like appointments, learning

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new things, testing, like learning

new things about my body, my nutrition

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hormones, how it all affects each other.

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And along the way, like.

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I don't know how that could ever be

separate from my emotional health and my

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spiritual health, because I'm inviting

God into every step of the journey and

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every time we find something and you

offering it back to him and asking his

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guidance and asking him like everything

he allows in our life is intentional.

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I'm like, why have you brought me here?

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What are you using this journey for?

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You know, where is there healing in

this space as well as the physical, you

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know, space that you are providing for.

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So that integration

that you're bringing up.

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I think it's so important.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

You could probably even speak to

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that, like with how much you've

gone through in your health journey

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in the past few years of like it.

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The Lord allows it, and for whatever

reason, he's like, Hey, this is actually

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one of the best ways that I can reach

this very specific part of your heart.

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Like with every single test that you do or

every change that you do, like you uncover

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different parts that you're like, oh, I

would've never known this about myself.

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I would've never known how little I trust

you if I didn't have to go through this.

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Or I would've never known

like how quick I am to like.

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Turn on you and to like, get

resentful if I don't get what I want.

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You know, like it's, he really uses

like the bodily weakness and the healing

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journey to be like, Hey, like now we're

gonna go to a separate part of your

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heart that we've never gone to before.

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And like, this is the time.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yes.

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Yeah.

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Gosh.

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I feel like we could do a whole

podcast episode just on that.

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That is so good.

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Um, let's shift gears a little

bit to talk about feminine

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health, feminine femininity.

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'cause I know that's a big

part of your mission as well.

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So you talk a lot about honoring

the feminine body and seeing

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it as good and beautiful.

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So can you share more of like, what is

your heart behind this and how does this

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tie into the specific work that you do?

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Hmm.

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Well really one, I'm a girl, girl.

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I was raised by girls.

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I'm around girls.

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Like I only ever want to talk to girls.

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Obviously I love my husband, but

there's just like something about the

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feminine heart and the feminine mind.

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I think it's the best thing in the world.

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The the dilemma.

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Is when you start to see being a

woman as being a curse, just because

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of like what you're experiencing in

your body, um, or sincerely, like your

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femininity is on attack every single day.

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Every single day.

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Like it is one of the devil's.

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: 00:19:25

Favorite things and

like, why could that be?

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Like, could it be that like you're

the crown of creation and you're

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also the heart of your home.

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: 00:19:31

And so if like the devil can reach

you, if the devil can reach a woman's

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heart and be like, Hey, you need

to be obsessed about how you look.

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The whole point of your life

is to be as small as possible.

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: 00:19:44

Um, everything you do is not good enough.

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: 00:19:47

You actually need to be trying

way harder all the time too.

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But don't be vain and at the same time,

like make sure that everyone around

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you is constantly pleased and like that

vocation that God has promised you.

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: 00:19:58

Yeah, you need to work for it and earn it.

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: 00:20:00

And like you can't actually trust that

he has good things planned for you.

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: 00:20:02

Like it's this like constant barrage that

then it makes it be like, what is this?

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: 00:20:08

Like is this what it's, and

I, I remember like exhausting.

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: 00:20:12

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

that whole list is exhausting.

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: 00:20:14

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

And it's like so real.

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: 00:20:16

And then on top of it, layer in that like

once a month you're like knocked out cold

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: 00:20:20

for four days and like woken up in the

middle of the night with horrible cramps.

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: 00:20:23

You know, like that.

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: 00:20:25

That is a recipe for

resentment against the father.

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: 00:20:29

And that's like the whole,

that's the whole plan.

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: 00:20:32

Like that's the enemy's plan is for

you to like, not trust that he's

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: 00:20:35

good and that you have a father

that wants to take care of you and.

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: 00:20:38

I just distinctly remember having a friend

tell me once that she was like, gosh,

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: 00:20:42

like my cycle feels like such a curse that

I'm like, why did God do this to women?

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: 00:20:48

And I remember being like, oh, like that.

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: 00:20:51

And this is a faithful woman.

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: 00:20:54

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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: 00:20:55

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

To think that God is like just cursing

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: 00:20:57

us with the design of our body.

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: 00:20:59

That's where I think like understanding

how your body works is so critical

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: 00:21:03

because it's like, is it, are you

like doomed forever to horrible book

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: 00:21:06

preamps, which is what I thought.

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: 00:21:07

I was literally like, oh, it's

just genetic and I just like

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: 00:21:10

have to suffer this forever.

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: 00:21:12

But I also was eating garbage

and not eating enough and eating

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: 00:21:16

a lot of the wrong foods and not

sleeping and never going outside.

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Like so many factors that I was choosing

that I just didn't know were causing that.

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: 00:21:23

So I think in order to like truly, truly

embrace the Lord's creation, he made us

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: 00:21:27

man and woman and like what does it mean

to be a woman and what does it mean to

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: 00:21:31

be a woman of faith and to like delight.

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: 00:21:34

I feel like he like was

probably like, oh man.

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: 00:21:37

I like can't wait for them

to figure out this far.

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: 00:21:39

And like, just the way that like, like

a good man will delight in the woman in

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: 00:21:44

front of him and, and be like, oh my gosh.

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: 00:21:47

Like, he kinda like the way that men

point out little things about women

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: 00:21:49

that you're like, oh, like I never.

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: 00:21:51

I never would've noticed that.

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: 00:21:52

Or like with your husband,

he'll say things and you're

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: 00:21:54

like, ah, you think that's cute?

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: 00:21:55

Like, I never would've seen it.

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: 00:21:58

'cause it's like we're just so used to it.

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: 00:22:00

It kinda becomes old news.

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: 00:22:01

But I think having like that all

in wonder again to repair the

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: 00:22:04

relationship with our own bodies and

with our Lord is really critical.

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: 00:22:08

And also in a world, let's be real.

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: 00:22:10

Like in a world that's telling you

that like there's no such thing as

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: 00:22:12

man and woman and that like you can

do whatever you want and none of it

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: 00:22:15

matters and that this doesn't have any

meaning, but it's like, actually we need

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: 00:22:18

to put all the meaning back into it.

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: 00:22:20

And part of that is

like, what is the design?

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: 00:22:22

Like what is the design that the

creation sings about The creator?

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Yeah, I feel like.

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: 00:22:28

So many women that are, I

just heard you say all that.

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: 00:22:31

Probably just feel so heard and

comforted because like you said

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: 00:22:36

before, a lot of them probably have

gone to the doctor and the only

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: 00:22:39

answer they got was birth control.

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: 00:22:40

And so they probably just felt

like, oh, my body, my femininity is

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: 00:22:43

something to be suppressed because

it's clearly causing a problem and

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: 00:22:46

there's nothing I can do about it.

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: 00:22:48

And so you sharing all this is opening.

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: 00:22:53

door to the possibility of like,

maybe do I just not understand how

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: 00:22:56

it works and I'm not supporting it.

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: 00:22:58

Maybe there is a better way.

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: 00:23:00

Maybe I don't have to believe it's bad.

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: 00:23:02

Maybe I don't have to suppress

it and try and get rid of it.

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: 00:23:06

'cause that has all of the

effects that come with it as well

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: 00:23:09

besides just removing your cramps.

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: 00:23:12

Um, so.

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: 00:23:14

Let, let's get into the women's cycle.

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: 00:23:15

Talk to me about women's cycles.

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: 00:23:18

Why is it so important for women

to understand their cycles and

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: 00:23:22

how does this tie into their

overall picture of their health?

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: 00:23:25

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Okay, stunning.

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: 00:23:27

One of my like 2025 resolutions was to go

at the birth control industry's throat.

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: 00:23:32

So let's talk about birth

control for a second.

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: 00:23:33

The way the hormonal birth control

works is that it turns off your cycle

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: 00:23:38

exactly what you were saying, like

let's get rid of the problem altogether.

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: 00:23:40

We are literally throwing the baby out

with the bath water, and I will say.

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: 00:23:44

I had so many conversations with

girls at Seek that they were like,

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: 00:23:48

I'm on birth control and I don't

want to be, or I'm on birth control.

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: 00:23:52

And I'm like so embarrassed of it,

or I feel like I'm St thinning.

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: 00:23:56

And I was like, wait,

wait, wait, wait, wait.

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: 00:23:57

Like that's not what's happening here.

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: 00:23:59

Like totally separate thing to be

using birth control as a contraceptive

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: 00:24:03

versus like you are totally single

and that's what your dermatologist

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: 00:24:07

gave you to clear up your skin.

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: 00:24:09

Very different scenario.

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: 00:24:10

So I feel like Catholic women are

walking around with a lot of, of, of

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: 00:24:14

heavy burden of being like, this is

my only option, but I know in my heart

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: 00:24:18

only option, I have to air quotes here.

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: 00:24:20

That is not your only option.

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: 00:24:21

Um, but they're being told that

this is the only option, but

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: 00:24:24

at the same time, they're like.

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: 00:24:25

It makes me feel awful.

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: 00:24:27

I feel like a shell of myself.

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: 00:24:28

I feel miserable.

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: 00:24:29

Um, and yeah, maybe my

skin is getting clear.

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: 00:24:31

My cramps haven't been as bad, but

like this is not a long-term solution

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: 00:24:34

because I wanna be a mom one day.

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: 00:24:36

Like it just, nothing about it.

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: 00:24:37

Makes sense.

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: 00:24:38

So let's go back.

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: 00:24:39

It's kind of like starting with

why have you read the book?

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: 00:24:41

Start With Why.

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: 00:24:42

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: No.

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: 00:24:43

What is it about?

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: 00:24:44

I haven't

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: 00:24:44

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's a really good business book.

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: 00:24:45

Um, but it's all about like, you have

to start with like the why in the

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: 00:24:49

beginning and then we work backwards.

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: 00:24:51

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm.

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: 00:24:51

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

so.

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: 00:24:51

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

I remember hearing like Ted talk

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: 00:24:53

about that growing up in school,

so I might've been that guy.

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: 00:24:57

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's him, Simon Sin.

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: 00:24:58

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yes, yes.

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: 00:25:00

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's really good and the phenomenal.

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: 00:25:03

But he tells this story of like, these

American, um, like car executives

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: 00:25:09

going to a Japanese car factory and

the, at the factory, they're like

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: 00:25:14

watching how they go through like

the final steps of control and stuff.

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: 00:25:17

And so he sees that like one

step that they do at all of their

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: 00:25:20

American factories, they're not

doing at this Japanese factory

555

: 00:25:22

after they put the doors on the car.

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: 00:25:24

And so he like turns to one of

the workers and he's like, Hey.

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: 00:25:26

When do you guys like

check that the doors fit?

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: 00:25:29

Like at our factory, at the very end when

we put on the doors, we hammer to make

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: 00:25:33

sure that they fit correctly and the, the

Japanese worker is like, we make sure that

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: 00:25:39

the doors fit when we design it like that.

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: 00:25:43

We're not, we're not like

figuring that out at the end.

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: 00:25:45

We started with that in the first place.

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: 00:25:47

Right?

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: 00:25:47

That's the whole concept of.

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: 00:25:48

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

hammering it, forcing it to go in,

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: 00:25:50

like you just make it correctly.

567

: 00:25:53

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

make it correctly.

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: 00:25:54

He's like, did you guys not

figure that out beforehand?

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: 00:25:56

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: That's so

570

: 00:25:57

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

I feel like that is such a good example

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: 00:25:59

of like the concept of like, instead of

always working on like, well, what's the

572

: 00:26:03

supplement that's gonna fix my periods?

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: 00:26:05

Or should I be doing carnivore?

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: 00:26:06

Should I be fasting?

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: 00:26:07

Should I be vegan?

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: 00:26:08

Whatever it may be.

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: 00:26:08

And constantly trying to fix your problem.

578

: 00:26:11

Your body isn't a problem to be fixed.

579

: 00:26:14

It's not you.

580

: 00:26:14

You are a per, first of all, you are a

person to be loved and to be understood.

581

: 00:26:19

So like, let's understand

how your body works first.

582

: 00:26:21

And like I shared in the beginning,

like my turning point was finally

583

: 00:26:26

having data about my body that had

nothing to do with how I looked.

584

: 00:26:31

That was what was like all I had ever

known was to tear my body apart by like

585

: 00:26:36

what I saw and that it wasn't enough,

or that things were too big or not

586

: 00:26:39

small enough or whatever it may be.

587

: 00:26:41

Lumps and bumps.

588

: 00:26:42

Like that's all my body was

like for, to like, um, kind of

589

: 00:26:45

just tear apart in that way.

590

: 00:26:47

But it was like when I finally

started learning how to check my

591

: 00:26:48

cycle, I was like, oh, there's

like a lot more going on here.

592

: 00:26:52

And I always call it, I call it like this,

um, the feminine formula to like a healthy

593

: 00:26:57

feminine body is safety and abundance.

594

: 00:27:01

Those two keys are critical.

595

: 00:27:04

So like in order for you to have a

healthy cycle, that's one example.

596

: 00:27:07

Or to have a healthy metabolism or a

healthy fertility, whatever it may be,

597

: 00:27:12

your body needs to know that it's safe.

598

: 00:27:13

The feminine body does not do

well in emergencies, and it needs

599

: 00:27:18

to know that there's abundance.

600

: 00:27:19

There's so many nutrients

involved with you like ovulating.

601

: 00:27:23

There's so many nutrients

involved with you having energy

602

: 00:27:26

throughout the day, right?

603

: 00:27:27

There's, um, there's so much sleep that

you need that maybe like your brother,

604

: 00:27:30

your dad or your boyfriend don't need.

605

: 00:27:32

It's just different.

606

: 00:27:33

And so, uh, when we can kind of

like, hone in and say, well, let's

607

: 00:27:37

have a data point of like what

is happening inside of your body.

608

: 00:27:40

Now we have this window into

your whole health, and that's

609

: 00:27:42

really what your cycle can be.

610

: 00:27:44

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

That is incredible.

611

: 00:27:46

Like, and, and I feel like I can attest

to that kind of enlightenment moment too,

612

: 00:27:50

when you start learning about your cycle.

613

: 00:27:51

Because I mean, Yeah, like I started

charting once I got engaged, and there's

614

: 00:27:56

just so much information that can tell us

615

: 00:27:59

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

616

: 00:27:59

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

other parts of our hormones and

617

: 00:28:02

our over overall, overall health.

618

: 00:28:04

And I had heard it called, um, how

many vital signs are there normally?

619

: 00:28:09

Five.

620

: 00:28:09

Okay.

621

: 00:28:10

Yeah.

622

: 00:28:10

Yeah.

623

: 00:28:10

So I, I heard this was the fifth.

624

: 00:28:14

Yeah, that's what I had heard it

called, like, this is like your extra

625

: 00:28:16

vital sign that like this will tell you

something about like how you're doing.

626

: 00:28:20

Um, so it tells you a lot more

besides just like, oh, when am

627

: 00:28:23

I supposed to get my period?

628

: 00:28:25

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

And that's like the whole thing.

629

: 00:28:26

Which did you also think that

you, like, I don't know why I like

630

: 00:28:30

literally walked around thinking that

I, I wasn't supposed to learn how to

631

: 00:28:32

check my cycle until I got engaged.

632

: 00:28:35

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

I had never even heard about it.

633

: 00:28:37

So like, I like growing up, like I didn't

know, and I had friends who even like

634

: 00:28:41

kept track of like when their period came.

635

: 00:28:43

I never did that.

636

: 00:28:43

I was just like, one day it shows up

and you're like, okay, here we go again.

637

: 00:28:48

And it, that wasn't too like, was

engaged and started charting that.

638

: 00:28:52

I was like, okay, like now I

know when everything happens.

639

: 00:28:55

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah, I lit.

640

: 00:28:56

I don't even, I probably didn't

know what ovulation even was until

641

: 00:29:00

I was in my like mid twenties.

642

: 00:29:02

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

I don't think I did either.

643

: 00:29:04

I don't think I did either.

644

: 00:29:05

And like when my practitioner

was like, so like, when do you

645

: 00:29:07

notice like this kind of mucus?

646

: 00:29:08

And I was like, I, I, I, what?

647

: 00:29:11

I don't know.

648

: 00:29:12

I, I don't know.

649

: 00:29:13

I don't look at that like

whatcha talking about.

650

: 00:29:16

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Literally.

651

: 00:29:17

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

It teaches you so much.

652

: 00:29:18

It teaches you so, so much.

653

: 00:29:20

Um, okay.

654

: 00:29:21

Okay.

655

: 00:29:21

We gotta keep going 'cause

we could talk for forever.

656

: 00:29:23

Next question I have for you.

657

: 00:29:25

It is important.

658

: 00:29:27

What are some of the biggest lies you

feel like women have been told about their

659

: 00:29:31

bodies or about food or about their cycle?

660

: 00:29:34

And how do you help women rewrite

those narratives in what you do?

661

: 00:29:38

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Mm.

662

: 00:29:40

The rewriting comes from understanding

how God made you and that like the

663

: 00:29:44

frustration, the walls have to come down.

664

: 00:29:46

Your body's not at war with you,

like your body's on the same team.

665

: 00:29:49

All your body ever wants to do

is like fend for your survival.

666

: 00:29:53

Um, so starting with that,

I think is most important.

667

: 00:29:55

But then the lies that we see

is that my body is just broken.

668

: 00:29:58

Whatever X symptom, it's genetic

and I'm doomed to this for life.

669

: 00:30:03

Um, birth control is my only option.

670

: 00:30:05

Food is either something that I control

or something that I indulge in, or it's

671

: 00:30:09

an enemy rather than it being a gift

from God and a sign of God's love for us.

672

: 00:30:14

Um, my weight is my worth, my, um, my

ability to have children, or my fear

673

: 00:30:22

that my PCOS is gonna keep me from

being a mom makes me less of a woman.

674

: 00:30:26

And I'm afraid that people won't want

me if they find out that I have PCOS

675

: 00:30:30

literal conversations that I have had.

676

: 00:30:32

And it gives me chills because it

is one of the most demonic things

677

: 00:30:36

in the world, and I wish I could

just like snuggle every single girl

678

: 00:30:40

that feels like that and be like.

679

: 00:30:43

You are good and like you are lovable,

even with a little diagnosis on there.

680

: 00:30:48

You know what I'm saying?

681

: 00:30:49

Like, and I don't want to

minimize PCOS is it's, it's rough.

682

: 00:30:52

Like there's a lot of symptoms that

are involved there, but like the, the

683

: 00:30:56

way that the devil will warp anything

about your body into it being like,

684

: 00:31:00

well, you're not gonna be lovable

or you're not gonna be wanted, or

685

: 00:31:03

like, you're gonna live a life alone.

686

: 00:31:05

I've seen it.

687

: 00:31:06

It's very, very dark.

688

: 00:31:07

Um.

689

: 00:31:08

Or that you can't trust anybody and

that you have to DIY this, and you

690

: 00:31:13

have to figure it all out by yourself.

691

: 00:31:14

You have to become obsessed

with being your own.

692

: 00:31:18

Uh, doctor, because the people that

failed you in the past were signs

693

: 00:31:22

that everyone is going to fail you.

694

: 00:31:23

And now there's no one that

you can trust out there.

695

: 00:31:25

That's another big, big lie I see

with Catholic women in particular.

696

: 00:31:28

Um, and that's where,

listen, I was a DIY girly.

697

: 00:31:31

I would spend like eight hours a

day on Instagram being like, how

698

: 00:31:35

do I put things together and like,

what am I supposed to be doing?

699

: 00:31:38

Instead of just being like, how

would I find someone to help me?

700

: 00:31:40

But I genuinely didn't know.

701

: 00:31:42

I didn't know what was possible and I.

702

: 00:31:43

I think I was just really wounded from

like negative experiences, but I think

703

: 00:31:47

those are some of the biggest lies

that when we can be freed from them.

704

: 00:31:53

That's where like healing begins

and that's when, when we talk about

705

: 00:31:57

freedom, it means not just like,

oh, I have the freedom from like sin

706

: 00:32:02

and I go to confession regularly.

707

: 00:32:04

Yes, I sure hope so, but

like you are not free.

708

: 00:32:06

If the back of your head is 24 7,

like screaming these lies about

709

: 00:32:11

you and making your own life

miserable, like that is not freedom.

710

: 00:32:15

And the Lord, I do really believe that he

wants that for each and every one of us.

711

: 00:32:19

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Yeah, I love that.

712

: 00:32:20

And it just ties it back

into the integration of body,

713

: 00:32:23

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Mm.

714

: 00:32:24

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

soul and how as we're healing, one,

715

: 00:32:26

we'll find healing in the other,

716

: 00:32:28

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

717

: 00:32:28

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

is so important.

718

: 00:32:29

So the work that you do is obviously

in nutrition, which involves food.

719

: 00:32:33

And I know that sometimes this can

be a sensitive topic for people.

720

: 00:32:36

People have a history with food,

especially women, and can often

721

: 00:32:40

be overwhelmed by, you know.

722

: 00:32:42

Diet culture and like what food is

good to eat, what food is notate, and

723

: 00:32:46

now there's like you said, so much

information I feel like online and on

724

: 00:32:50

Instagram, that you can go on there and

just be instantly overwhelmed by like

725

: 00:32:54

everything that you see about nutrition.

726

: 00:32:56

So to you, you talked

about freedom, right?

727

: 00:32:59

So what does food freedom mean to you and

how can we all start to experience that?

728

: 00:33:05

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's like, okay, if you have

729

: 00:33:07

seen food Freedom online,

this is what I'll tell you.

730

: 00:33:10

I do not believe that it is.

731

: 00:33:12

I had a conversation with someone earlier

this year where she was like, I feel like

732

: 00:33:15

I either go from like super restrictive.

733

: 00:33:19

Oma, intermittent fasting.

734

: 00:33:22

I can only eat.

735

: 00:33:23

I think she was, I don't know if she was

doing carnivore or if she was like just

736

: 00:33:25

doing a really restrictive diet or I

swing to like full intuitive eating where

737

: 00:33:30

I shouldn't have any kind of rules and I

should just eat what I feel like eating.

738

: 00:33:34

Neither of those camps are freedom.

739

: 00:33:36

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

740

: 00:33:36

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617: I.

741

: 00:33:37

Okay.

742

: 00:33:37

If we have developed something that is

so rigid that we cannot live a normal

743

: 00:33:43

life, participate in the community

that the Lord has given us, or, um, it

744

: 00:33:48

is our only obsession and we are more

obsessed with what we're eating and

745

: 00:33:52

if we're gonna be able to eat, then

with like the people in front of us.

746

: 00:33:55

That is not freedom.

747

: 00:33:57

And then I also don't think

it's freedom to only ever eat

748

: 00:34:00

what you feel like eating.

749

: 00:34:01

And like, that's where I think

intuitive eating could be taken too

750

: 00:34:04

far, because it's like sometimes

you don't know what you ought to be

751

: 00:34:07

eating to feel strong and healthy,

752

: 00:34:10

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

753

: 00:34:12

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

There's like the, the idea that

754

: 00:34:14

like there can be no rules ever

when it's like, yeah, no, maybe

755

: 00:34:18

not rules, but certainly structure

756

: 00:34:20

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

757

: 00:34:21

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

in terms of like freedom, I think of

758

: 00:34:23

like if we're gonna go back to the

garden and if you're gonna be this tiny

759

: 00:34:26

little sweet rose that is supposed to

bloom and blossom and grow a trellis

760

: 00:34:30

is what gives enough structure that you

can like climb upwards and be healthy

761

: 00:34:35

and be strong and bloom even more.

762

: 00:34:37

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

763

: 00:34:37

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

that, that is how I want you to see proper

764

: 00:34:40

nutrition is it is simply a trellis.

765

: 00:34:43

It is a tool.

766

: 00:34:44

It is, it is, um, like bumpers that help

keep you on the right path so that you

767

: 00:34:48

can have energy all day, poop every day,

have easy periods, like the things that

768

: 00:34:53

you want to have a normal quality of

life or a phenomenal quality of life.

769

: 00:34:58

We do need a certain amount of structure.

770

: 00:34:59

It's also kinda like the JP two thing

where he talks about like having

771

: 00:35:01

the freedom to do what we ought.

772

: 00:35:03

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

773

: 00:35:04

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Um, that's something I think about

774

: 00:35:05

a lot with like muck bangers has

gotten like really popular on like

775

: 00:35:09

Instagram and TikTok of just like, you

have no idea what I'm talking about.

776

: 00:35:12

Like, um, videos of people

just eating a lot of food.

777

: 00:35:17

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Oh, who my brother, I think

778

: 00:35:19

was telling you about this.

779

: 00:35:20

He's 16 and he's mentioned

something like that, and I was like,

780

: 00:35:23

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It.

781

: 00:35:24

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: that?

782

: 00:35:26

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Kind of gross.

783

: 00:35:27

Um, have him send you a couple, but

it's like a very common thing now.

784

: 00:35:30

Like there's this one girl that

will go and order like, I don't

785

: 00:35:33

know, five boxes from Wingstop

and then like records eating it.

786

: 00:35:38

I don't think she's actually eating all

of it, but there's this like very strange

787

: 00:35:42

culture around food right now where

it's like food is either only ever for

788

: 00:35:45

pleasure or we need to be full carnivore

and like cutting out all these things.

789

: 00:35:50

What I think is like particularly freeing

is like going back to scripture and being

790

: 00:35:53

like, how does scripture talk about food?

791

: 00:35:55

That was like a, a big deal for me that

I was like, 'cause I was car, I was

792

: 00:35:58

vegetarian and then I was carnivore.

793

: 00:36:00

And so I was like, I've done

all the, all the loony baloney

794

: 00:36:03

things that I could be doing.

795

: 00:36:04

Um, because I was just kind of desperate.

796

: 00:36:07

But going back and being like, okay, well.

797

: 00:36:09

The Lord like promised the Israelites

the land of milk and honey.

798

: 00:36:13

So like, clearly that can't just be like

the land of like inflammation and poison.

799

: 00:36:18

So like I, I, the way that I'm viewing

food, like it doesn't always have

800

: 00:36:21

to be so black and white and rigid,

but there is like so much goodness

801

: 00:36:25

and like the food that he gives us.

802

: 00:36:27

But yeah, the reason that, why

did I bring up the book bangers?

803

: 00:36:29

I think just because of the,

um, having enough structure

804

: 00:36:32

to be like, oh, the freedom.

805

: 00:36:33

Do we ought, like, just because I can.

806

: 00:36:36

Go buy 16 boxes of canes and that

might feel good for a moment.

807

: 00:36:40

That doesn't mean that

that's what's right.

808

: 00:36:42

So I think marrying too of having

like an enjoyable like relationship

809

: 00:36:46

with food and like what do I

like, what do I want to eat with?

810

: 00:36:49

Also being informed of

like what is good for me.

811

: 00:36:51

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

812

: 00:36:52

Yeah, totally.

813

: 00:36:52

And I mean, too much of a good

thing can sometimes even be bad.

814

: 00:36:55

And so

815

: 00:36:56

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Hundred percent.

816

: 00:36:57

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

is important and

817

: 00:36:58

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

818

: 00:36:59

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

actually helps us achieve freedom.

819

: 00:37:00

It's not restrictive.

820

: 00:37:02

Um, but our current culture

doesn't present it that way.

821

: 00:37:05

Our current culture presents, you know,

structure as something that's holding you

822

: 00:37:10

back and tying you down and, you know,

not letting you reach that full potential.

823

: 00:37:14

So.

824

: 00:37:15

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

825

: 00:37:15

Yeah.

826

: 00:37:16

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

that, that view.

827

: 00:37:18

Um, I know that you emphasize

a foundation's first approach.

828

: 00:37:21

Can you share what are those foundational

habits that you are passionate about?

829

: 00:37:26

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes.

830

: 00:37:27

Okay.

831

: 00:37:27

If we're thinking about this temple of

the Holy Spirit building up this strong

832

: 00:37:31

body, um, we cannot build anything

unless we have a strong foundation first.

833

: 00:37:36

And this is also what helps like.

834

: 00:37:38

Dissipate the overwhelm of,

oh my gosh, who do I believe?

835

: 00:37:42

Like every single person is

telling me something different.

836

: 00:37:45

There's 10,000 different diets

and 10,000 different methods.

837

: 00:37:48

Like how do I know what is true?

838

: 00:37:50

That's one of the most common

questions that I get, and this is

839

: 00:37:53

where like the foundations are, these

are the things that are essential

840

: 00:37:57

for the human body to function.

841

: 00:37:58

Period.

842

: 00:37:59

Like yes, there is nuance and you're

an individual and there's gonna

843

: 00:38:03

be uniqueness that you need in

terms of your like diet and habits.

844

: 00:38:07

But having the foundations locked in

first means that you have something

845

: 00:38:10

firm to stand on and to build off of.

846

: 00:38:12

So when I say foundations, this is also

what, like we do a little bit differently.

847

: 00:38:16

I'm a nutritional therapy practitioner,

so NTPs, like were specifically

848

: 00:38:20

trained in the foundations.

849

: 00:38:22

Um, and that being like

the method to freedom.

850

: 00:38:24

So that would be things like

your blood sugar regulation.

851

: 00:38:27

That is like a non-negotiable and

that's something I have like big beef

852

: 00:38:31

with like whole 30 and stuff like

that because it just teaches you what

853

: 00:38:36

not to eat instead of how to eat.

854

: 00:38:39

And so people are like really good

at following the list of like the

855

: 00:38:42

dos and do nots, but it's like, what?

856

: 00:38:44

What are you eating?

857

: 00:38:45

Like, and like do you know how

to balance your blood sugar?

858

: 00:38:47

Because that like will take a lot

of inflammation off your body.

859

: 00:38:50

Um.

860

: 00:38:51

So that's one.

861

: 00:38:51

Circadian rhythm is another

critical foundation.

862

: 00:38:54

Mineral balancing is huge.

863

: 00:38:55

Your hydration is huge.

864

: 00:38:57

All of those kinds of things that it's

like these are true across the board.

865

: 00:39:00

And then you can spring off

into like, okay, well what,

866

: 00:39:03

what are like the shingles?

867

: 00:39:04

Or like what are, what is the outside

decoration of the house, which can

868

: 00:39:07

be a little bit more unique to you?

869

: 00:39:09

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: What

if somebody had to pick one of those

870

: 00:39:12

to start with, if they're like, okay,

I can't do all of them at once, like

871

: 00:39:14

which one would you say is like, this is

the most important one, or this is the

872

: 00:39:18

one that I think you should start with.

873

: 00:39:21

Which foundation?

874

: 00:39:22

I.

875

: 00:39:24

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Today, I'm gonna say blood sugar.

876

: 00:39:25

I usually say circadian rhythm, circadian.

877

: 00:39:28

I say no, I'm gonna say blood

sugar today, because um, it

878

: 00:39:34

is, if you can lock in on that.

879

: 00:39:36

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

big right now because in my doctor's

880

: 00:39:38

appointment, literally this week,

she was like honing in on blood sugar

881

: 00:39:43

and she recommended this blood sugar

monitor thing to like start tracking.

882

: 00:39:48

Yes, yes.

883

: 00:39:49

Oh my gosh.

884

: 00:39:50

I haven't put it on yet.

885

: 00:39:51

I'm like scared.

886

: 00:39:52

I literally picked it up yesterday and I'm

like, I don't want it to poke me, but she

887

: 00:39:55

was like, no, it will give you so much.

888

: 00:39:57

She was raving about it.

889

: 00:39:58

She's like, it's gonna give

you so much information.

890

: 00:40:00

She's like, I do it.

891

: 00:40:01

Every three months, she's like, we're

gonna hone in on your blood sugar.

892

: 00:40:04

And I'm like, what is going on?

893

: 00:40:05

And so this is like truly

providential that you're like,

894

: 00:40:09

today I'm gonna pick blood sugar.

895

: 00:40:10

And I'm like, of course.

896

: 00:40:12

Of course she's gonna pick

blood sugar because I'm hearing

897

: 00:40:15

about blood sugar all week.

898

: 00:40:16

So

899

: 00:40:16

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

The Lord's like, confirm it.

900

: 00:40:18

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Literally.

901

: 00:40:20

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Tell her she's on the right path.

902

: 00:40:22

Okay.

903

: 00:40:22

Literally, I have mine on right now.

904

: 00:40:24

Are you integrating it with your Aura app?

905

: 00:40:26

Do you have an Ora ring?

906

: 00:40:27

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

I don't have an aura ring, but she

907

: 00:40:28

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Okay.

908

: 00:40:29

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

sync up to like

909

: 00:40:30

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Your phone,

910

: 00:40:31

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: app.

911

: 00:40:32

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

it's so fun.

912

: 00:40:33

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

like, it'll sync to your phone.

913

: 00:40:35

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Oh my gosh, you're gonna love it.

914

: 00:40:36

But I just, I've had mine on for a

week and a half because I'm testing it

915

: 00:40:39

for myself because of my blood work.

916

: 00:40:41

And then I'm also testing

it for some clients.

917

: 00:40:43

But the reason I say that is

because, which you do not need a CGM.

918

: 00:40:47

Mari's doing it because she

has a doctor that's gonna watch

919

: 00:40:49

over her and take care of her.

920

: 00:40:51

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yes.

921

: 00:40:51

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

I'm doing it 'cause this is my job.

922

: 00:40:53

My clients will only do it

if we are watching over them.

923

: 00:40:55

I just wanna say that instead of you

like going and DIYing one more thing.

924

: 00:40:59

Please don't.

925

: 00:40:59

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

yeah, yeah.

926

: 00:41:00

I think you have to get it prescribed.

927

: 00:41:01

I don't think you can

just pick it up anyways.

928

: 00:41:05

Oh, you can?

929

: 00:41:06

Okay.

930

: 00:41:06

Well watch out guys, then.

931

: 00:41:08

Don't go do this until someone

tells you you need to do this.

932

: 00:41:12

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah, because you know why?

933

: 00:41:13

Because 'cause I, I literally was telling

my friend that I had it on and she was

934

: 00:41:17

like, oh, I think I need to do that next.

935

: 00:41:18

And I was like, no, do not do

that because you already don't do

936

: 00:41:23

the things that I tell you to do.

937

: 00:41:24

And I was like, it's just gonna be

more data that's gonna overwhelm

938

: 00:41:28

you because if you don't know how

to use data, data's pointless.

939

: 00:41:31

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: yep.

940

: 00:41:31

I,

941

: 00:41:31

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

if you like, can see the data and then

942

: 00:41:33

you can refine based off of it and you

go, oh, like this works really well.

943

: 00:41:36

This doesn't, whatever.

944

: 00:41:37

Like last night I was on my phone,

which is one of my rules, but

945

: 00:41:40

I was, I had to check something

946

: 00:41:42

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

947

: 00:41:42

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

then I checked my monitor really quick

948

: 00:41:44

before bed and it was spiking, which

is literally what I teach my clients.

949

: 00:41:48

But it was the first time I got to catch

it on the monitor and be like, I told

950

: 00:41:52

you, blue light raises your blood sugar.

951

: 00:41:54

Like get off of your phone at night.

952

: 00:41:55

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: What?

953

: 00:41:56

I didn't know

954

: 00:41:56

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes,

955

: 00:41:57

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: That

956

: 00:41:58

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

yes, yes.

957

: 00:42:01

Um, because of the stress

signal and the cortisol.

958

: 00:42:04

The same thing with like, um, I've

noticed on my thing, every time I get

959

: 00:42:07

on the freeway, I spike, I get rest.

960

: 00:42:12

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

driver driving it spikes my cortisol.

961

: 00:42:17

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

I'm gonna be like, babe, you

962

: 00:42:18

have to drive me everywhere.

963

: 00:42:19

I'm so sorry.

964

: 00:42:22

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Wow.

965

: 00:42:23

The more

966

: 00:42:23

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes.

967

: 00:42:24

Yeah.

968

: 00:42:25

So the reason I'm gonna say blood

sugar is because now you're focused on.

969

: 00:42:29

Um, eating enough, eating enough protein,

you're focusing on eating regularly.

970

: 00:42:35

You're focused on having meals that

are hearty and satiating protein is

971

: 00:42:40

essential to your hormone health, to your

energy, to you going to the bathroom.

972

: 00:42:44

And then longer term to like

avoiding things like Alzheimer's and

973

: 00:42:47

dementia, like having enough muscle

on your body is really critical.

974

: 00:42:50

So I would say if you had to

make like one shift, it would be.

975

: 00:42:54

Double the lean protein on your

plate and like start getting serious

976

: 00:42:58

about having structure in your life.

977

: 00:43:00

Eating regular meals at regular times,

like stop making your body wonder

978

: 00:43:05

if and when you're gonna feed it.

979

: 00:43:07

But instead, if we're like focusing on

blood sugar regulation, then your body

980

: 00:43:10

goes, yeah, every single morning we have

breakfast and a few hours later we have

981

: 00:43:13

lunch, and a few hours later we have

dinner, and then we have a nice break.

982

: 00:43:16

This is for the intermittent fasted

girlies or the people that are like.

983

: 00:43:19

My, one of my clients today was

like, my roommate just read a book on

984

: 00:43:21

intermittent fasting and I was like,

tell her to like, stop eating earlier

985

: 00:43:24

instead of like skipping breakfast.

986

: 00:43:26

Um, you like really wanna do if

f but yeah, I would say starting

987

: 00:43:30

with the blood sugar, because now

it's not just about like, what are

988

: 00:43:33

all the things I can't be eating?

989

: 00:43:34

It's about creating,

uh, rhythm and routine.

990

: 00:43:37

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm.

991

: 00:43:38

I love that.

992

: 00:43:38

And honestly, it makes a lot of common

sense, especially everything what you

993

: 00:43:41

were saying about like, your body wants

to know it's gonna get three meals a

994

: 00:43:45

day and that it's gonna be like in a

rhythmic pattern like at a normal hour.

995

: 00:43:50

I don't know what it is about.

996

: 00:43:52

Women and we struggle to

feed ourselves sometimes.

997

: 00:43:57

I like have a friend who's a content

creator and I saw her post on her

998

: 00:44:00

story, like my husband left me a note

on this little like lunch he made me

999

: 00:44:03

and and said, please eat lunch LOL.

: 1000

00:44:06,269 --> 00:44:08,399

Why is that such a relatable reminder?

: 1001

00:44:08,399 --> 00:44:11,519

And it's like, especially high achieving

women who are busy or who have a

: 1002

00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:13,889

lot going on, it's like you're just

go, go, go in your day and then all

: 1003

00:44:13,889 --> 00:44:16,469

of a sudden it's three o'clock and

you're like, oh, that's why I feel

: 1004

00:44:16,469 --> 00:44:17,969

this way because I didn't eat lunch.

: 1005

00:44:18,884 --> 00:44:19,174

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1006

00:44:19,369 --> 00:44:21,799

And then, but then it's like, oh, ha ha.

: 1007

00:44:22,579 --> 00:44:25,849

But then it's like, add that up 30 times.

: 1008

00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:30,379

Times three, and now you've given your

body a hundred signals over the past

: 1009

00:44:30,379 --> 00:44:33,829

three months that like things aren't

safe or that we don't have enough.

: 1010

00:44:34,279 --> 00:44:37,639

And then we wonder why our periods

are like excruciating, or we wonder

: 1011

00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,309

why it's MIA, or we wonder why

like our skin is freaking out.

: 1012

00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:41,239

Like whatever it may be.

: 1013

00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,719

It's like we forget to add up

that It's like the Oh ha ha.

: 1014

00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,769

Like I keep forgetting.

: 1015

00:44:45,889 --> 00:44:48,139

Which also I think that's

a great reminder of like.

: 1016

00:44:48,369 --> 00:44:51,249

The Lord, if he wanted you to

photosynthesize, he would've made you that

: 1017

00:44:51,249 --> 00:44:57,549

way, but like for whatever reason, he made

you to have these internal like needs,

: 1018

00:44:57,579 --> 00:45:01,959

like your sleep, your hydration, your

hunger, these are internal needs to remind

: 1019

00:45:01,959 --> 00:45:03,459

you that you are not self-sufficient.

: 1020

00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:07,699

And that you are not just like a

random object that landed on this earth

: 1021

00:45:07,729 --> 00:45:11,479

because like little amoeba multiplied

trillion years ago, like that is the

: 1022

00:45:11,479 --> 00:45:13,279

most ridiculous lie I've ever heard.

: 1023

00:45:13,369 --> 00:45:16,789

And I think sometimes women forget

to live like they're human and like

: 1024

00:45:16,789 --> 00:45:19,038

they have a father that like once.

: 1025

00:45:19,394 --> 00:45:20,984

Them to rely on him.

: 1026

00:45:21,314 --> 00:45:24,584

And like that's how you can see

mealtime of it being like, oh, this

: 1027

00:45:24,584 --> 00:45:28,724

is a reminder that I'm like, not, not

a ghost and I'm not a rock and I'm

: 1028

00:45:28,724 --> 00:45:32,144

not like Holy Spirit Junior, but like

I have to stop and I have to eat.

: 1029

00:45:32,534 --> 00:45:35,654

And it's like this little like

moment of kind of resignation of

: 1030

00:45:35,654 --> 00:45:38,384

like, okay, Lord, like whatever's

going on, you can take care of it.

: 1031

00:45:38,384 --> 00:45:39,554

But this is essential right now.

: 1032

00:45:40,489 --> 00:45:43,609

-: 2025

Yeah, and he made good whole foods

: 1033

00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:48,139

and animal products so that we could

feed ourselves well, because it's more

: 1034

00:45:48,224 --> 00:45:48,314

-: 2025

And.

: 1035

00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:49,369

-: 2025

just stopping and eating.

: 1036

00:45:49,369 --> 00:45:53,944

But it's like if we're eating packaged

stuff, refined sugars, processed foods,

: 1037

00:45:54,244 --> 00:45:54,454

-: 2025

Yeah,

: 1038

00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:56,599

-: 2025

like that's not gonna do any good

: 1039

00:45:57,094 --> 00:45:57,874

-: 2025

yeah, yeah.

: 1040

00:45:57,994 --> 00:46:00,424

Like he didn't make you

to function off of like

: 1041

00:46:00,829 --> 00:46:01,159

-: 2025

: 1042

00:46:01,714 --> 00:46:03,694

-: 2025

and a a Celsius and a

: 1043

00:46:03,694 --> 00:46:05,104

Snickers bar like that.

: 1044

00:46:05,464 --> 00:46:06,694

That ain't in the Bible.

: 1045

00:46:06,724 --> 00:46:07,384

You know what I'm saying?

: 1046

00:46:09,229 --> 00:46:11,749

-: 2025

ain't in the Bible, that's for sure.

: 1047

00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:16,639

so then what advice would you give to

the women who's listening to this and

: 1048

00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:19,219

is like, I relate a little bit too hard?

: 1049

00:46:19,699 --> 00:46:22,609

You've definitely called me out

in the best way, but I feel I.

: 1050

00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:25,024

Stuck, maybe, you know, she's exhausted.

: 1051

00:46:25,024 --> 00:46:26,674

She's confused about her symptoms.

: 1052

00:46:26,974 --> 00:46:27,904

She doesn't know where to begin.

: 1053

00:46:27,904 --> 00:46:30,034

She's definitely asked that

question, who do I trust?

: 1054

00:46:30,034 --> 00:46:31,024

What do I do?

: 1055

00:46:31,024 --> 00:46:31,984

Where do I start?

: 1056

00:46:32,314 --> 00:46:33,244

What advice would you give her?

: 1057

00:46:34,994 --> 00:46:38,029

-: 2025

My honest answer is grab your journal

: 1058

00:46:38,539 --> 00:46:42,019

and go to the chapel today and.

: 1059

00:46:42,529 --> 00:46:43,519

Just write out.

: 1060

00:46:43,849 --> 00:46:46,399

And if you're like, oh,

Flo, I'm not a journaler.

: 1061

00:46:46,729 --> 00:46:50,809

Make yourself a journaler just for

this one hour, because it's a really

: 1062

00:46:50,809 --> 00:46:54,739

great way to slow down everything

that's in your brain and you

: 1063

00:46:54,739 --> 00:46:57,589

probably have so many thoughts and

it pulls out one dominant thought.

: 1064

00:46:58,099 --> 00:46:59,359

What is like the one thread?

: 1065

00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,339

And if you're like, well, I

don't even know what I would say.

: 1066

00:47:01,369 --> 00:47:02,089

I'm gonna give you a prompt.

: 1067

00:47:02,089 --> 00:47:02,659

It's gonna be okay.

: 1068

00:47:02,659 --> 00:47:05,419

And you just like make your pen

move and see what comes out.

: 1069

00:47:05,479 --> 00:47:09,829

But I would sincerely, in front of the

Lord sit there and ask yourself, do

: 1070

00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:11,359

I truly believe that I am made good?

: 1071

00:47:13,264 --> 00:47:15,784

And like what comes up

when I see that phrase?

: 1072

00:47:16,174 --> 00:47:17,704

Where is there resistance?

: 1073

00:47:17,704 --> 00:47:19,084

Where is there frustration?

: 1074

00:47:19,384 --> 00:47:21,454

Where is there um, fear?

: 1075

00:47:21,904 --> 00:47:23,164

Where is there hope?

: 1076

00:47:23,224 --> 00:47:25,054

Like whatever it may be that comes up.

: 1077

00:47:25,354 --> 00:47:28,954

And then the second thing is, do I

believe that God wants me to be well?

: 1078

00:47:30,169 --> 00:47:31,699

I think that's like a missing piece.

: 1079

00:47:31,699 --> 00:47:37,789

A lot of the times that if you are

pretty deep into either your disordered

: 1080

00:47:37,789 --> 00:47:42,589

eating or like your period symptoms

or your acne, whatever it may be, that

: 1081

00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:47,030

sometimes I think we get lost in the lie

that this is just a cross that I have

: 1082

00:47:47,035 --> 00:47:51,169

to carry and it would be unholy of me.

: 1083

00:47:52,354 --> 00:47:56,644

To like carrying it well must mean that

I just have to shut up and deal with it.

: 1084

00:47:57,274 --> 00:48:02,644

Whereas like the truth is like God

wants you to be well and like God wants

: 1085

00:48:02,644 --> 00:48:05,044

your healing, he wants your physical

healing and your spiritual healing,

: 1086

00:48:05,044 --> 00:48:08,014

and it's not always guaranteed that

every single thing is gonna be healed.

: 1087

00:48:08,014 --> 00:48:09,274

Especially not on this side of heaven.

: 1088

00:48:09,274 --> 00:48:13,414

Like we're gonna have physical

ailments, but you're allowed to try.

: 1089

00:48:14,104 --> 00:48:16,984

Like, you're totally allowed to

care and you're totally allowed

: 1090

00:48:16,984 --> 00:48:19,384

to be like, I, I do need help.

: 1091

00:48:19,444 --> 00:48:21,934

And like, I don't want to live

like this and I want to know what

: 1092

00:48:21,934 --> 00:48:23,944

it's like to like have a good life.

: 1093

00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,634

Like, and I think, um, I just

want you to ask like, do you think

: 1094

00:48:27,634 --> 00:48:29,224

that God cares about your body?

: 1095

00:48:29,974 --> 00:48:32,494

Because that could be like a good

starting point to shift things

: 1096

00:48:32,794 --> 00:48:34,504

and to start living differently.

: 1097

00:48:34,744 --> 00:48:38,344

And then if you're like,

okay, done and done.

: 1098

00:48:38,494 --> 00:48:41,614

Now give me a practical,

I'd say go ahead and start.

: 1099

00:48:42,049 --> 00:48:45,019

Um, get your phone out of your room.

: 1100

00:48:45,334 --> 00:48:47,824

The first and last hour of

your day, those belong to God.

: 1101

00:48:48,274 --> 00:48:51,304

The first and last hour of day should

be like two of the most sacred hours

: 1102

00:48:51,304 --> 00:48:56,074

of your entire life because he woke you

up again and that wasn't guaranteed.

: 1103

00:48:56,434 --> 00:48:57,874

And now you're gonna

sleep and you don't know.

: 1104

00:48:57,994 --> 00:48:59,104

You don't know what's

about to happen there.

: 1105

00:48:59,104 --> 00:49:02,464

And so like that is, that is the

time to spend time with our Lord.

: 1106

00:49:02,854 --> 00:49:05,314

And it's being robbed

and it's been given over.

: 1107

00:49:05,314 --> 00:49:08,524

Like TikTok is God that you need to be

talking to in the morning and at night.

: 1108

00:49:08,944 --> 00:49:10,714

Um, so I'd say get your

phone out of your room.

: 1109

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Delay it for the first and

last hour of the morning and

: 1110

00:49:14,124 --> 00:49:15,174

your energy's gonna be better.

: 1111

00:49:15,684 --> 00:49:17,364

Your thyroid is gonna be functioning well.

: 1112

00:49:17,364 --> 00:49:19,014

Your gut is gonna feel calmer.

: 1113

00:49:19,254 --> 00:49:21,204

Your skin will be beautiful.

: 1114

00:49:21,204 --> 00:49:26,034

You're gonna feel like you enjoy life

again, and that's gonna be worth it.

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: 1116

00:49:27,424 --> 00:49:30,184

Oh, I'm taking that

advice straight to heart.

: 1117

00:49:30,184 --> 00:49:30,874

Next week?

: 1118

00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:31,839

Tomorrow.

: 1119

00:49:31,844 --> 00:49:32,104

Tomorrow.

: 1120

00:49:32,464 --> 00:49:33,424

Starting tomorrow.

: 1121

00:49:33,694 --> 00:49:34,444

Not next week.

: 1122

00:49:34,924 --> 00:49:36,154

I'm such a Monday girl.

: 1123

00:49:36,154 --> 00:49:38,104

I'm such a like, I will start on Monday.

: 1124

00:49:38,134 --> 00:49:39,304

'cause that's a fresh new start.

: 1125

00:49:39,604 --> 00:49:44,434

No, we're gonna start tomorrow on Friday.

: 1126

00:49:45,584 --> 00:49:47,714

Because that makes total

sense for my type A brain.

: 1127

00:49:47,984 --> 00:49:48,584

That's fine.

: 1128

00:49:49,904 --> 00:49:51,824

no, that was such, such good advice.

: 1129

00:49:51,824 --> 00:49:55,814

You have so much wisdom to share

and I love truly, I just want to

: 1130

00:49:55,814 --> 00:49:58,274

tell you like the Lord has given

you a special grace to share this

: 1131

00:49:58,274 --> 00:50:01,934

information because the way you're

speaking there is so much gentleness

: 1132

00:50:01,934 --> 00:50:05,594

and love in it, as well as just like.

: 1133

00:50:05,999 --> 00:50:09,779

The protective mama bear spirit of

like, and I need to tell you the truth.

: 1134

00:50:09,809 --> 00:50:13,469

Like, and someone's gotta tell you what's

right, what's wrong, what's good for you,

: 1135

00:50:13,469 --> 00:50:14,909

what's not, because I care about you.

: 1136

00:50:14,909 --> 00:50:15,239

You know?

: 1137

00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,749

So it's both the gentleness

and, um, kind of that firm hand

: 1138

00:50:18,749 --> 00:50:19,949

that we needed to hear today.

: 1139

00:50:19,949 --> 00:50:21,419

So thank you for

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00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:21,859

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Thank you.

: 1141

00:50:21,899 --> 00:50:22,649

-: 2025

and sharing that.

: 1142

00:50:22,739 --> 00:50:26,729

Do you have time for a few fun,

relatable, rapid fire questions?

: 1143

00:50:27,029 --> 00:50:27,319

-: 2025

go.

: 1144

00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:27,949

What you got?

: 1145

00:50:28,409 --> 00:50:28,769

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: 1146

00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:32,879

I wanna know, what is your one

non-negotiable part of your daily routine?

: 1147

00:50:33,529 --> 00:50:34,009

-: 2025

Morning walk.

: 1148

00:50:35,134 --> 00:50:36,364

-: 2025

Ooh, I love that.

: 1149

00:50:36,364 --> 00:50:38,224

I wanna incorporate that this summer.

: 1150

00:50:38,824 --> 00:50:40,024

What time of day do you do that?

: 1151

00:50:40,024 --> 00:50:41,854

Like, do you like wake up

and just go on your walk?

: 1152

00:50:42,514 --> 00:50:42,874

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1153

00:50:42,874 --> 00:50:45,724

I also like, like biggest

health hack of all time.

: 1154

00:50:45,784 --> 00:50:46,594

Get yourself a dog.

: 1155

00:50:46,624 --> 00:50:47,719

You have a golden retriever, right?

: 1156

00:50:47,819 --> 00:50:48,019

-: 2025

: 1157

00:50:48,184 --> 00:50:48,364

I do.

: 1158

00:50:48,364 --> 00:50:53,164

That's why I wanna go, because his vet

was like, he needs to shave a few pounds.

: 1159

00:50:53,164 --> 00:50:54,124

He's a little junky.

: 1160

00:50:54,124 --> 00:50:56,014

And I was like, yeah, that's on me.

: 1161

00:50:56,314 --> 00:50:56,639

-: 2025

So fast.

: 1162

00:50:56,644 --> 00:50:57,484

-: 2025

walk more.

: 1163

00:50:59,104 --> 00:51:00,424

-: 2025

Yeah, mine is sleeping

: 1164

00:51:00,424 --> 00:51:01,289

right here at my feet.

: 1165

00:51:01,589 --> 00:51:01,809

-: 2025

: 1166

00:51:02,344 --> 00:51:03,784

-: 2025

if you want the health hack of all health

: 1167

00:51:03,784 --> 00:51:06,214

hacks, get yourself a golden retriever.

: 1168

00:51:06,604 --> 00:51:09,364

Um, I'm gonna say golden retriever

specifically 'cause I'm a golden retriever

: 1169

00:51:09,364 --> 00:51:12,574

supremacist and they're so sweet and

they'll go with you anywhere, anytime.

: 1170

00:51:12,574 --> 00:51:14,494

Whereas my sister's

dogs will be like Uhuh.

: 1171

00:51:14,854 --> 00:51:14,944

Um.

: 1172

00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:16,999

But yeah, morning walk.

: 1173

00:51:17,089 --> 00:51:19,219

Um, and especially having a

dog is kind of a game changer.

: 1174

00:51:19,219 --> 00:51:21,469

'cause then it's like, oh, I'm

like hurting him if he doesn't go

: 1175

00:51:21,469 --> 00:51:22,309

out for a thing in the morning.

: 1176

00:51:22,699 --> 00:51:25,759

Um, and instead of just let, if you

have a yard, instead of just letting

: 1177

00:51:25,759 --> 00:51:27,439

them out into the yard, go walk them.

: 1178

00:51:27,859 --> 00:51:28,339

Take them.

: 1179

00:51:28,339 --> 00:51:30,079

And that's your walk and his walk.

: 1180

00:51:30,409 --> 00:51:32,479

Um, but that's like a

non-negotiable every single day.

: 1181

00:51:32,794 --> 00:51:33,074

Mm-hmm.

: 1182

00:51:33,094 --> 00:51:33,814

-: 2025

: 1183

00:51:34,444 --> 00:51:34,834

Two.

: 1184

00:51:35,074 --> 00:51:38,494

What is your go-to nourishing

meal when life gets busy?

: 1185

00:51:38,494 --> 00:51:40,504

I feel like this is something we

all wanna know because life is

: 1186

00:51:40,504 --> 00:51:42,844

busy, so like what's a go-to meal?

: 1187

00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:46,069

-: 2025

Let's say like the busiest.

: 1188

00:51:46,669 --> 00:51:50,059

The busiest is where I

am not even gonna cook.

: 1189

00:51:50,179 --> 00:51:51,109

That's like real, real.

: 1190

00:51:51,169 --> 00:51:57,139

Like the week I come home from Zeek,

so Trader Joe's, the pack of the

: 1191

00:51:57,169 --> 00:51:59,509

just chicken, the one that's cooked

in olive oil, salt and pepper.

: 1192

00:51:59,599 --> 00:51:59,929

That's it.

: 1193

00:52:00,829 --> 00:52:03,289

Pre grilled, pull it outta the

box so you can eat it cold.

: 1194

00:52:03,289 --> 00:52:03,949

It'll be fine.

: 1195

00:52:04,339 --> 00:52:07,729

And I am a big salad girl in

like the spring and summer.

: 1196

00:52:07,969 --> 00:52:09,019

In the winter.

: 1197

00:52:09,319 --> 00:52:11,509

I would say I would probably, um.

: 1198

00:52:12,049 --> 00:52:12,349

Do that.

: 1199

00:52:12,349 --> 00:52:15,229

Maybe like pour it in some bone

broth, chop up some mushrooms,

: 1200

00:52:15,439 --> 00:52:18,349

add some coconut aminos, and now

I have like a little Asian soup.

: 1201

00:52:18,994 --> 00:52:19,609

-: 2025

: 1202

00:52:19,909 --> 00:52:20,239

-: 2025

Yep.

: 1203

00:52:20,569 --> 00:52:21,259

-: 2025

: 1204

00:52:22,339 --> 00:52:23,149

last one.

: 1205

00:52:23,149 --> 00:52:25,969

If you could shout one message

from the rooftops to every

: 1206

00:52:25,969 --> 00:52:27,784

woman of God, what would it be?

: 1207

00:52:28,609 --> 00:52:29,749

-: 2025

God made you good.

: 1208

00:52:30,289 --> 00:52:32,899

He loves you and you are like so lovable.

: 1209

00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:36,139

I'll cry right now, but like,

I don't think, you know how.

: 1210

00:52:37,474 --> 00:52:39,184

-: 2025

We're on this podcast.

: 1211

00:52:41,754 --> 00:52:43,399

-: 2025

I was just like, I don't think

: 1212

00:52:43,399 --> 00:52:45,709

you know how lovable you are.

: 1213

00:52:46,129 --> 00:52:50,569

And I think that that's part of

the struggle is that you think

: 1214

00:52:50,569 --> 00:52:54,439

that you don't like deserve good

things or that no one cares like

: 1215

00:52:54,439 --> 00:52:57,079

what you do or don't do, but like.

: 1216

00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:01,069

One, I care and God cares like you.

: 1217

00:53:01,129 --> 00:53:03,709

Your life is so precious and

like you're the only you.

: 1218

00:53:03,709 --> 00:53:05,119

There's never gonna be another you.

: 1219

00:53:05,209 --> 00:53:06,949

And that's like why

you have to get better.

: 1220

00:53:07,249 --> 00:53:09,289

Like it's, it's like

time you have to focus.

: 1221

00:53:09,289 --> 00:53:12,949

And that getting better might be like

recovering from your eating disorder.

: 1222

00:53:13,129 --> 00:53:14,239

It might be like.

: 1223

00:53:14,494 --> 00:53:17,764

Going and praying again, like whatever,

getting better means for you, but like

: 1224

00:53:17,764 --> 00:53:22,834

I hope that you know how much he loves

you and that he's not mad at you, and

: 1225

00:53:22,834 --> 00:53:25,984

that he delights in you and that he

made you good and he made you for good

: 1226

00:53:25,984 --> 00:53:27,544

things and he has good plans for you.

: 1227

00:53:28,804 --> 00:53:30,724

-: 2025

Mic drop right there.

: 1228

00:53:30,904 --> 00:53:32,944

We're gonna end the podcast on that.

: 1229

00:53:33,364 --> 00:53:34,354

Save that clip.

: 1230

00:53:34,354 --> 00:53:36,034

Everybody flow.

: 1231

00:53:36,124 --> 00:53:36,994

Thank you.

: 1232

00:53:37,024 --> 00:53:38,104

Thank you for coming on today.

: 1233

00:53:38,104 --> 00:53:41,764

Where can everybody find more

of you and even work with you?

: 1234

00:53:42,304 --> 00:53:43,294

-: 2025

Yes, thank you again

: 1235

00:53:43,294 --> 00:53:44,314

for having me on Mari.

: 1236

00:53:44,524 --> 00:53:47,494

Um, you can put me on Instagram

at the Catholic Nutritionist.

: 1237

00:53:47,854 --> 00:53:50,554

Uh, my website is the

catholic nutritionist.com

: 1238

00:53:50,824 --> 00:53:54,484

and then my podcast is made

good on Spotify and Apple.

: 1239

00:53:55,369 --> 00:53:55,819

-: 2025

Beautiful.

: 1240

00:53:55,819 --> 00:53:57,469

We'll make sure to link

those in the show notes.

: 1241

00:53:57,469 --> 00:53:58,309

Everybody can find you.

: 1242

00:53:59,044 --> 00:53:59,914

-: 2025

Thank you.

: 1243

00:54:00,229 --> 00:54:01,099

-: 2025

Thanks girl.