28: Cultivating a Catholic Identity in Your Home with The Heights Podcast

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mari-wagner_1_09-25-2024_095656: we

just recently recorded an episode with

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some good friends of ours on their

podcast called the heights podcast.

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You might also know Brendan and Connor

from human project on Instagram.

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And we had an amazing conversation

on their podcast about Catholic

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identity and establishing that

Catholic identity in your home.

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And I just thought this conversation

was so fruitful and so wonderful.

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That my listeners would

love to hear it as well.

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So for this week's episode, we are

just going to be playing the recording

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from the heights podcast episodes.

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You can listen in on that conversation.

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Hey, I'm your host, Mari Wagner,

and you're listening to the ever be

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podcast where faith meets lifestyle.

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I'm so excited you're here, whether you're

a new listener or a longtime follower,

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I know there's something here for you.

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Pull up a chair and listen in for

insightful real life conversations

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and actionable steps on how to claim

the full life God created you for.

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If you're a woman desiring to live

a Christ centered life in today's

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modern world, then this is for you.

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Welcome to Ever Be.

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What's up everyone.

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Welcome back to the Heights podcast today.

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We have on Trey and Mari Wagner, who are

the co founders of West Coast Catholic.

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And Maria has launched a podcast is

the host of ever be podcast, right?

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So, we're excited to have them on.

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So, just first, Troy and Mari, maybe

share a little bit more about who you

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are, how you guys started West Coast

Catholic, and what you guys are up to.

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Yeah, thanks for having us, Brendan.

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We always love chatting with you,

so this is going to be a fun convo.

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Yeah, we're excited to be here.

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We started West Coast Catholic in 2019

it all really started back in: 2018

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when I started my personal Instagram blog.

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Um, really it was just in the midst of

a reversion that I was going through

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in my life and the Lord placed it on

my heart to share how I was choosing

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to live my faith out in college.

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Um, as a young 20 something year old.

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Um, so I started doing that on an

Instagram page called West coast Catholic.

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Uh, I grew up in the West coast and kind

of felt like I didn't really ever have

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a lot of Catholic community out there.

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Hence why I chose to be the West coast

Catholic to represent, um, that side of

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the country and eventually it just, it

just kept growing and continued to grow.

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And about a year into having this blog,

Trey, uh, gave me a handmade rosary that

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he made for my birthday and the beauty

of that rosary and the intentionality,

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With which I knew that it was made

drew me to prayer so much that I kind

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of unlocked like a spiritual life hack

like beauty beauty draws us to prayer.

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Um, And it is a transcendental so

it's true and there's something about

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beauty that just lifts our eyes and

our souls and our minds to god and

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so I was so drawn to the rosary just

Through the beauty of the item, um,

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and that inspired us to start making

rosaries, uh, to bless the people that

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were following along on our Instagram.

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And at the time we were

also discerning engagement.

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And so we also may have been trying to

save up for a ring at the same time.

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And so we thought that

selling a few rosaries.

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Blessings and people with beautiful prayer

tools, and then hopefully saving up for a

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ring would help set us up for the future.

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And the Lord had very different plans.

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I mean, the Lord, uh, just continue

to bless those rosaries and what

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we thought would just be selling a

few rosaries as a one time thing.

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Um, just kind of continuing to snowball

into what it is today, six years later.

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And now we're a full on Catholic

lifestyle brand and it's

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Trey and I's full time work.

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So yeah, it's our ministry.

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And the Lord has blessed us

abundantly and it's so much fun,

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so much fun working with my wife.

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Spoiler alert, we did get married.

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Yes, it worked out great.

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How long have you guys been married now?

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Three and a half years.

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Three and a half years.

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And it all kind of really started

when Trey made that rosary.

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Is that, am I right?

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I made one rosary and she's

like, oh my gosh, a Catholic man.

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I I always prayed for a Catholic

boyfriend, and I didn't know that

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that's what it would be like, but when

he gave me that rosary, I was like,

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this is, this is what I prayed for.

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Yeah, I was looking at your guys

website right before this, actually,

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and I loved, uh, the little saying,

experience a foretaste of heaven.

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Yes.

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And So maybe, could you just share

briefly about that and how that reflects

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what you guys do at West Coast Catholic?

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Yeah, that was the tagline that we came

up with for this brand that we created.

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And really what it is, is

experience a foretaste of heaven.

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So what is heaven?

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Heaven is ultimately communion with God.

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And that is what we're trying to

inspire everybody here through our

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products and through our lifestyle

goods and prayer tools that we sell.

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Is to inspire a prayer

life within the consumer.

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And so, uh, through prayer, we're able

to obtain community with God, which

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is like a little foretaste of heaven.

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It's because heaven is community with God.

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Prayer is community with God.

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A way that we can experience that little,

little taste of heaven here on earth.

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And so.

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Everything we create is, uh, created

with that intention in mind to

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inspire prayer and to our customers.

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Yeah.

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Whether it's a, you know, actual prayer

tool, like a rosary or a devotional

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or holy water, or whether it's.

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A lifestyle item, like a belt bag

or a necklace or an accessory.

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It is all intentionally designed with

like a faith infused, um, intention with

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the design and something in it, right?

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Whether it's prayer or the meaning

of the product in some way, it's

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supposed to elevate us to the Lord

and elevate our souls to the Lord

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and help us find that communion.

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And like Trey said, the

bottom line is prayer.

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We're always trying to encourage people

to build a prayer life and to say,

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relationship with the Lord through prayer.

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Cause that's really

what is transformative.

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And once we find that it's like, we find

this little taste of heaven here on earth

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and the more that we're able to meet the

Lord in that intimate space of prayer,

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the more we're able to get a little taste

of what it's going to be like one day.

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Sweet.

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I love it.

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So in this podcast, we're going to be

talking about the home and establishing

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a Catholic identity in the home.

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And a lot of your guys products at West

Coast Catholic, Helps facilitate that.

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So, you know, we are all formed by what we

consume or, you know, become what you eat.

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What's the saying?

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Is it you, yeah, you become

what you eat type of deal.

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Okay.

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But just in general, like what we,

what we take in, you know, the music we

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listen to the shows, how we, everything

we take in forms us and the home in

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general, I mean, that's where, that's

where you live, you know, that's,

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that's So I think it's so interesting,

particularly with this topic, that we're

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going to talk about just the home and

how actually like decorating your home.

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Or how you set it up, like how

you, I don't know if you guys made

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this up, but like to qualify or

something you did, what is it called?

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I mean, I don't know if I made it

up, but yeah, I had to see, I have

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a series called Catholify your home.

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And so I feel like the

term has really stuck.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I mean, it just popped up in my mind.

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I wasn't even planning

on saying that, but yeah.

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So, you know, we talk about.

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You know, we can talk about these things,

but it actually affects who we are in

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our identity, particularly as Catholics.

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So before we kind of dive into, you

know, how a married couple or just

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a single person, whoever has a home

or an apartment, wherever you live,

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how you can set that up to actually

foster a deeper Catholic identity.

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First, I just want to ask you guys, what,

you know, what would you say it means to

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actually have a Catholic identity or to

be Yeah, that's a great question, Brandon.

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Um, Yeah, we are still figuring that out.

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I think every day is, uh, you know,

we're learning more and more what that

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means, but I would say fundamentally,

I would say what it means to be

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Catholic is one recognizing your own

brokenness and your own humanness.

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Uh, I think the, the best way that

I've been able to resonate with this

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is actually through something that St.

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Paul said, I don't even know what, in what

book, I think maybe Romans, but I can't

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remember, but he says something along the

lines of like, I can't do what I want.

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And I always do what I don't want

to do and I think that's a very like

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human experience that we all feel.

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I know that I feel that very deeply.

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And so I think 1st, it's recognizing that

we are broken because it's not until you

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recognize your brokenness that then you

can even acknowledge a need for a savior.

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And so then that's the second half

of the coin is acknowledging the need

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for a savior and, uh, recognizing that

our savior is Jesus and that he did

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through the cross actually redeem us.

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And then it's given us the, the

power and the grace through the

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Holy spirit, uh, to become like him.

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And like, ultimately the Christian

journey is becoming like Christ.

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And so ultimately it's the

gospel message is what is like

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what it means to be Catholic.

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And there are some like unique ways that.

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We're able to live that out through

our Catholic faith, um, through the

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sacraments, through tradition, um, and

all the teachings that I know that you

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were talking about, you want to share

a little bit more about that, Mari?

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Yeah, no, I, I love what you were

saying about the gospel message, because

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although that obviously is like the

heart of all Christianity, I think

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what you were saying is so unique.

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About us Catholics, just like

recognizing our brokenness and also

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just, um, in the, in the gospel.

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So we were missionaries with focus.

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And so we like, learned this

like way to share the gospel.

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Right.

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And so it's like, um, if you want to

help me out here, you are, uh, in perfect

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relationship with the Lord, right.

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In the very beginning.

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Right.

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And then sin enters the world and

there's this huge chasm that comes in.

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We like, we're sinful.

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There's this brokenness and

it separates us from God.

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Right.

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all we long for is to like be back

in that perfect union with God.

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But unfortunately, like in our

humanness, there's nothing we can

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do to be like, fully reconciled

with the most perfect divine being.

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And so we clearly need a savior.

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So, so first of all, it's

that acknowledgement of

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like we need a savior and.

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The Lord in his love and mercy and just

like desire to be with us and united

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with us once more sends himself down

in the form of his son to reconcile us.

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And the way the reason that

works is because Jesus is both

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fully human and fully God.

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And so in his human is

he's able to repair.

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Uh, he's able to like bear the weight of

our sins, but because of his divinity,

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he's able to repair that infinite

chasm that is between us and the Lord.

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Um, and he not only came to do

that for us to just save us, but

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actually to transform our lives.

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And that's what I love most

about the gospel message.

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And that's where I kind of want to

tie it into Catholicism a little bit,

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because while What I see a lot in

Protestant Christianity is just the need

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to acknowledge that you're saved and

that you have a savior and that's it.

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However, we, as Catholics

believe that both faith and work

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play a role in salvation and.

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In this gospel message that we

share, we share that Jesus came

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to transform our whole lives.

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And so he not only just wants to like

wipe us clean and be like, you're good.

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I did the work for you, but he actually

wants to change us inside out to transform

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us, to change the way that we live and the

way that we live those works that we do.

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And that you see on the outside.

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set us apart as Catholics.

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And as we were chatting a little bit

about these questions, before we got on,

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one thing that you said was that, um, at

one point in time, all these people that

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were following Christ started to live

very differently than everybody else.

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So much so that they had to give

them a name to identify them.

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And they called them Christians.

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And they were like, you

people that are so different.

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And, Strange and are following this man.

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We're going to call you Christians.

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Um, and so I think that ties in a

little bit to kind of this reflection

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on like faith and works and how like our

works truly, um, play a role in this.

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And I feel like is a foundational

part about being Catholic and

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how that kind of ties into.

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The church in a sense is really the

sacramental life I feel like as well

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and how as Catholics We both follow and

are guided by scripture and tradition

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and that like wholeness of the way that

we practice our faith Really sets us

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apart in our Catholic identity and is

something so beautiful that I feel like

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we're so blessed that the church has

given us So many avenues to experience

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like this tangible faith Do you want

to talk more about sacraments at all?

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Yeah, I mean, it's the way that we're

able to experience God, it's the gifts

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that the church has given us, uh, so

obviously because of our brokenness, like

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we can't achieve the salvation on our own.

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And so we have these wonderful gifts to

help us along the way and to help us, like

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you were saying, Mari, to be transformed

from the inside out to become like Christ.

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And so through confession, through

the Eucharist, uh, those are like

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the primary sacraments that we can.

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receive weekly, monthly, uh, that help

us on that road to salvation for sure.

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That's great.

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Yeah.

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I, well, it was just coming to

my mind was to like be Catholic.

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If we live the Catholic faith and truly

let it sink in, we will become more

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fully ourselves and more fully human.

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You know, the, I believe as the

Vatican two council said, you know,

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uh, that Christ, um, by the revelation

of the mystery of the fodder father

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and his love for us fully reveals

man to man himself and makes a

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supreme calling clear, but Christ

himself is the man who's fully alive.

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Like he reveals what it means to be human.

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And I mean, I think the claim that

we would make is to be Catholic is

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to actually be fully yourself, to

be fully human, which is revealed in

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light of Christ and, and that means.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, I said, and I think

that, like, if we are as Catholics.

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supposed to be fully alive, like we

should be attractive, like we should have

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attractive lives that people are drawn to.

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And clearly Jesus did.

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That's why people were drawn to him.

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And if, if being Catholic is being

fully alive in Christ, then like

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that should say something about

that, the way that we live our life.

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Trying to hold in that sneeze.

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I couldn't.

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I usually sneeze in twos, but.

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I think we're good on just the one.

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You can keep going.

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One big one.

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Um, but yeah, that's all I was saying.

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It was, I think in light of that,

like we should live attractive lives.

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And I think, I don't know, maybe

there's, like, ways that, like, we as

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Catholics can, like, improve that and,

like, make this faith more attractive

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because of the way that we're living.

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Yeah, and I think, I just, I relate

to that so much on a personal

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level, like what you were saying

about, like, becoming, like,

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fully human, fully yourselves.

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And that's, like, equivalent to,

like, the fullness of Catholicism.

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Because in my life, when I, fully

embraced my Catholic faith and Changed

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my life to be centered around Christ

and the sacraments like I became fully

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myself and I remember like in that whole

experience like sharing with Trey and my

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friends of like I have never felt more

mari in my entire life i'm like this is

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like Fully and upon unapologetically,

like who I am in every way.

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And I just experienced like the fullness

of joy, the fullness of freedom, the

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fullness of peace, like in so many

aspects, like in every aspect of my life.

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And it, and it's, it wasn't

truly until I like fully.

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lived out my Catholic faith

when I, when I felt that.

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So like, even just on a very personal

human experience, like practical

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level, like that is so true.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I, sorry.

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I just, my phone just dropped.

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Um, but, uh, Yeah, it's and we're

not saying I want to make this clear.

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We're not saying when you talked about

Trey like, hey, we're called to be,

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you know, attractive and even beautiful

and therefore I'm going to wear this.

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We're not, you know, we're not being

pharisaical in the sense of, you know,

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Catholics are all about just the law and

looking good doing the works, but inside,

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um, We're full of, you know, extortion as,

as Christ says, like, no, the, the outside

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reflects the inside, but the inside also

reflects the, the outside and, you know,

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so to be Catholic, you know, therefore

we should act and behave in certain ways.

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Even if we don't want to at

the time, we need a reordering.

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We need a retuning of our,

of our hearts, you know?

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And, and I'm just thinking of like, okay,

why do we dress modestly as Catholics?

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Well, because we believe that the human

body has a great dignity and value.

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Uh, why do I, why am I

going to love my neighbor?

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Well, well, Christ told me so.

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And because I'm most fully

myself, most fully alive.

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So we can apply that now to just the

home and lifestyle and even like, okay.

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And like decorating, setting up a home

environment that's attractive, that's

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welcoming for people to come in, but also

just yourselves and like living in it.

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So maybe we can kind of segue into.

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The home, you know, why, why is the home

so important to fostering one's self and

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one's life and one's Catholic identity?

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Yeah.

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I love this topic.

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So I'm excited to chat about it.

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Um, you guys, you guys aren't saying

like, Hey, you need to put up incense.

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So when people walk in,

it's all foggy and smoky.

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I mean, are you, you're not

saying anything like that?

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No, no, no.

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Um, no, but I love, I love

this topic and your question.

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Why is a home so important?

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Truly comes from this idea

of the domestic church.

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Um, and that's something that we

believe as Catholics and that the

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church teaches that the primary, um,

catechist of the faith start in the home.

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So, like, the, the parents, the guardians

of the family in the home are the ones

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who have that primary responsibility

to teach the children and to teach

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the family of the faith and pastor.

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Down those traditions, um, those

practices and that love for the faith,

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um, that knowledge of the faith.

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And there's many different ways that

we can do this, but I think once we

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recognize that we recognize first of

all, that we have a responsibility

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to bring the church into our home.

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And I love this term domestic church.

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Like how are we bringing different

pieces of the church, both in

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like practice and essence and both

like physically, like aspects of.

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The beauty of the church, how is that

being represented in our home once we

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realize we have that responsibility like

We actually begin to do things and we

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don't think just like, Oh, the priest

on Sunday will raise my family in the

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faith, you know, hopefully my kids will

get something out of the homily or like,

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hopefully, like, you know, we'll just talk

about the faith after like on the drive

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home from church and that'll be good.

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No, once you really realize, like, the

home is truly where faith is, like,

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fostered and nurtured and developed.

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You.

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Begin to recognize the weight

of, like, what it looks like

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to really have a Catholic home.

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Like, what are different ways that I

can actually foster this in my home?

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And so, um, there's, there's so

many different ways to do that.

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And like you said, uh, physically, like,

decorating for sure is 1 way that we

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love to bring the church into our home.

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Um, but.

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Very simply like having a, like a

home altar or like a prayer space

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because that firstly nurtures you like

our marriage and our family is being

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nurtured through prayer in the home.

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And so, whether that's like, we have our

own spaces where we like to pray or having

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a crucifix up on a wall where we like to

pray or prayer cards or a prayer candle.

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You can have it spread out around the

house, but, like, we really recommend,

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like, having a good place that, like,

you consistently go pray to and kind of

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foster that environment, kind of like

you would go sit in a chapel or a church.

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Um, and as well as, uh, like.

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spiritually fostering those practices

as a family, like having set aside time

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to pray and fostering like different

ways to pray with each other or to

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have spiritual conversations, whether

that be maybe reading the Sunday gospel

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together or doing a family rosary or

just discussing, you know, topics of

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the faith over dinner or something.

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Those are little practical ways that

you begin to bring the essence of the

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faith and the church into your home so

that like your family and your, like the

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spiritual environment of your family is

being fostered primarily in the home.

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They're being like, their cups are being

filled in the home so that when they go

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out, it's clear that they're Christians.

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It's clear that they're Catholics

and they're, they're going out into

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the world from a place of like, Being

nourished spiritually and being formed

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in their faith And they can stand

firmly in their faith when they go out

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into the world um I want to give you

all a space to talk because i'm like

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I could keep going but keep going.

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I want to know your

thoughts Brendan, go ahead.

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You got anything?

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Yeah.

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Well, I was My mind went to Genesis

for some reason, uh, where it

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reminded me that, okay, you know, St.

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Therese says, you know, the earth is,

is thy ship, not thy home, you know,

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or, but my mind went to, okay, in

Genesis, actually the picture of the

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garden of Eden and the whole universe,

the cosmos is in, is temple imagery.

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Actually God's dwelling,

which is ultimately the

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temple and the holy of holies.

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It's where God dwells Genesis It's where

man and God walked with one another

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and so the whole universe understood

biblically is Should be the dwelling

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place the most high God kind of And

then you take that to like a city, like

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how we should order architecture, like

food and, uh, society just as a whole

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should have everything orient ourselves

to communion with God and vice versa.

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And my professor was, is just mad at

the architecture that most people are

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building nowadays, because it's just.

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It all has to do with the dollar and

efficiency and, uh, you know, so all

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that being said, so my mind went to

Genesis, the universe, cities, and

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architecture, and then it went to the

home of like, okay, you said it's the

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domestic church, which is a mini church

that ultimately it's, it's a place where,

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uh, The family communes with God and

God communes with the family and then

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my mind went to theology the body stuff

Okay, what's the marriage bed the holy

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of holies of the the house, you know,

it's it That's just where my brain goes.

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But and then I'm thinking like oh

does that you know should should

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You know the bridal chamber be

decorated in a way that's more holy.

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I don't know.

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That's where my mind was

going No, I love that.

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I don't I mean, but here's maybe a

question that that I have for you guys

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Is you know my mom In her home has

crosses everywhere, like everywhere.

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Like you go into the kitchen and there's

crosses circling the whole entire walls.

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And everyone knows that about my mom

and my mom loves to decorate their, the

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home is also a place to welcome people

who aren't Catholic at all or not.

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Don't believe in God at all.

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You know, it's also a

place of evangelization.

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So.

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Is there a way where you can go too

far with how you catholify your home

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that makes people uncomfortable?

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Or, you know, like how, I don't,

Is there a middle ground of

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where, where it's welcoming and

they, they, they feel welcome.

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They feel, Oh, there's

something attractive here.

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Um, to where, uh, they, they're

not feeling comfortable.

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You're, you're overdoing it.

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You're hyper spiritualizing your home.

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You know, I don't know if you

guys have any thoughts on that.

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That is an interesting question.

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My first thought was,

yes, you could overdo it.

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But then, I'm thinking of like the,

the beautiful cathedrals all across the

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world, especially in Europe, the ones

that are older and that are like huge

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tourist destinations, like millions

of people who don't believe in God are

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going into those hyper Catholic spaces.

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That are beautiful and like there is

a reality I mean this is what you love

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to talk about like that beauty and what

you talked about at the beginning is

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that beauty leads us to God and there

is a reality that the beauty of those

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Spaces and these beautiful churches

are leading people to christ um and and

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people whether they believe in god or

not objectively know These are beautiful

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sacred spaces and that's why they're

going all around the world to visit

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them And yeah, and I think a lot of them

would probably like Recognize there's

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something different about this space

and maybe if they're not religious, they

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won't be able to put like a finger on it.

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But like, even our one friend like

walked into, I've had this happen to two

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different friends that, um, I think, I

mean, they do have faith, but they like

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walk into a Catholic church and they're

like, Something is different here.

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I don't, I can't really like put a finger

on it, but like, I do recognize that

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there is a difference here and we're like,

well, it's just the presence of Christ.

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Those were Protestant friends who

walked into a Catholic church and

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specifically said that they're

like, I just feel different when

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I walk in to a Catholic church.

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And I was like, well, the beauty

one leads us to that transcendental

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of heaven to the Eucharist is here.

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So, so to answer your question, like

you maybe could, if it's like, You

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could maybe overdo it and maybe you

have thoughts on that specifically for

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like decorating, but I think it's, it's

more so the people inside the home.

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Like, are they, is their personality,

is the way that they're interacting

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with the people walking into their home

is like, is that overdoing it where

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they're over spiritualizing everything?

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They're like kind of shoving the

faith down somebody's throat.

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It's like, that is way different.

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Of an experience.

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And I think the people in the

home will make the experience

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more or less overbearing, uh,

than the actual home itself.

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But I don't know.

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You have thoughts.

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Yeah.

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Well, I, I love the, um, concept of

like evangelizing with your home.

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And I mean, that's the essence

of everything we do at West

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Coast Catholic and our products.

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Um, something that we, we don't use

as like an official tagline, right.

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But it's kind of like, it's not your

grandma's Catholic home, you know,

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it, it's, it's, It's designed in

a way that is kind of a modern day

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aesthetic while keeping the rich beauty

of tradition of the Catholic church.

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Um, And this is for people, you know,

young families of today so that they

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can evangelize with their home so they

can build their domestic church in a

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way that they resonate with in the way

that's attractive and beautiful to them.

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And although there is an innate beauty

to these more traditional Catholic

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items, and some people, some young

people today, like that might be their

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style still that that's totally fine

and beautiful for that to be your style.

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Um, But we do have a more modern aesthetic

in what we do in our brand, precisely for

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this reason, for people to resonate with

it, that are young Catholics of today

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and to spark those conversations with the

people you welcome into, into your home.

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So.

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I'm going to talk about a lot of

things and I'm going to hit all your

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points, but I'm going to get there.

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Um, so with these items, I mean, what

we've seen is, you know, you have, we

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have a beautiful like concrete candle

that's, uh, kind of the modern version

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of your classic, like Guadalupe candle.

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It's like the vertical, like tall

candle that usually has like all

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these like bright colors, which is

very like traditional and like the

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Mexican culture and everything.

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Um, and I mean, you can find these candles

like at the store for like a dollar.

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Um, but it's like that

iconic Catholic candle.

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Um, if you're more like me and you

like a little bit more like muted

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neutral style, we made this candle in a

beautiful like concrete material that's

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kind of like a cream color and it's

got the same vertical shape as that

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prayer candle and it has an imprint

of our Lady Guadalupe on the front.

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People walk in and they're like, Oh

my gosh, that candle is so beautiful.

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: 00:29:03

Like, what is it?

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And you have an opportunity to be

like, Oh, like this is a prayer candle.

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This is Our Lady of Guadalupe.

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: 00:29:09

Like we light it when we pray a

family rosary, or have you heard

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of the incredible story of the

tilma at Our Lady of Guadalupe?

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Um, those items allow for like these

like sparks of conversation about

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the faith to enter the conversation.

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In a very easy and natural way where

you're not necessarily always the

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one opening the conversation of like,

Would you like to talk about the

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: 00:29:33

miraculous apparition in guadalupe?

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: 00:29:35

Like That's kind of weird and so one

yes, like there's so many beautiful ways

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to evangelize with our home and I do

think that as catholics like Somebody

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who's not catholic should walk into your

home and know These people are Catholic.

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Again, like we are Christians and

we are set apart and we're not

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supposed to blend in with the world.

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We're not supposed to like hide

ourselves and mask ourselves to

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be relatable like everybody else.

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: 00:30:02

We are supposed to stand out and have

kind of like a higher standard of like the

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way that we live and the way that, um, we

foster and nurture the faith in our homes.

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So I do think that like you should walk in

and you should know it's a Catholic home.

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Now your question of

like, can you overdo it?

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I think that honestly, like in my

heart, I feel like the pri Mary, the

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primary choice is like to nurture

your family and to foster your family.

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And the home is more than just like

a structure of like four walls.

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It's really like the sacred

space where family life happens.

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And if you're like, Usually the father

of the home, the father provides like

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protection and the mother like, you know,

uh, gosh, there's like a saying like

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you provide protection and I like bring

like love into the home or whatever.

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It's like he provides and she like

makes it beautiful, makes it a

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beautiful space to be in and to gather.

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And so like, if the mother of the home

or the wife of the home has like chosen

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to, Create this environment in that way

like your mom like putting the crosses

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like all across The kitchen or i've seen

people have like the the crucifix walls

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: 00:31:15

and they buy a crucifix wherever they go

And this is like giant mural of crucifix.

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: 00:31:18

That was my mom Yeah, you haven't seen it

because that was before we did a remodel

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: 00:31:22

but in the kitchen there's like one huge

wall That was just covered with And I

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: 00:31:28

think like if that's the choice I don't

want to, I don't want to say like you're

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: 00:31:32

overdoing it because it's coming from a

place of genuine faith and love and like

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: 00:31:37

wanting to express that in the home.

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: 00:31:40

Um, but I love what Trey was saying

about like, how, how is your posture

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and your interactions with people

around you that aren't Catholic?

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How is that like, being inviting

while still being strong in your

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Christian faith at the same time?

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: 00:31:58

How are you opening conversation in just

very normal ways, very casual ways that

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: 00:32:04

then give you opportunities to build

trust, to build friendship, to lead into

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: 00:32:10

Sharing about what your experience was

at mass on Sunday and what you, what you

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: 00:32:13

got from the homily or sharing what your

prayer life has been recently, or maybe

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: 00:32:17

like a God moment that you had while you

were like, trying to discern something

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: 00:32:21

and make a decision, building those

relationships, establishing that trust

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and that friendship, I feel like it's

really important when you're evangelizing

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because it's going to be received.

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: 00:32:31

So much better, um, and so much

less of like skepticism that you

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: 00:32:35

just have an agenda, but instead

you're like, Oh, I love this person.

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: 00:32:39

I understand that like, the faith

is really important to them.

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: 00:32:42

So like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hear

what they have to say about it

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: 00:32:44

because it's important to them.

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: 00:32:45

And I love this person as a friend.

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: 00:32:47

Um, So I hope that kind of answers the

questions like, yes, super important

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: 00:32:52

to have items in your home that

express your Catholic faith and that

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: 00:32:56

welcome a conversation and evangelize

almost without you having to do much.

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: 00:33:01

But then at the same time, I think

the way that you interact with

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: 00:33:04

people that you're inviting into

your home almost matters more.

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: 00:33:08

What comes to mind with when

you're saying that is the tool

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: 00:33:11

will never replace the action.

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: 00:33:13

Like the tools that you're using

in your home, the decorations

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: 00:33:17

are never going to replace the

action of evangelizing like that.

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: 00:33:20

That is done human to human.

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: 00:33:22

Um, so there are tools that are

helpful, but they can't replace.

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: 00:33:26

Yeah.

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: 00:33:27

Yeah.

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: 00:33:29

Do you guys have like, well, the,

the one thing I loved what you

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said, Maury was, you know, people

should know just by walking into

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your home, this is who they are.

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: 00:33:40

They're they're Catholic.

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: 00:33:42

And so often, um, You know, I remember

back in like high school, it's like,

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: 00:33:46

I wouldn't do the sign of the cross at

when I'm having lunch or, you know, why,

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: 00:33:52

because, well, someone's going to make

a comment, someone's going to judge me.

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: 00:33:55

And, you know, I think that's something

we all should reflect on is like, is my

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: 00:33:58

social media accounts is do my classmates.

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: 00:34:02

Do, do people know just by how I present

myself that this is who they are and

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: 00:34:09

what they're about and especially the

home, you know, are people walking in

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: 00:34:12

and not, whoa, this person's radical

or uncomfortable, get uncomfortable,

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: 00:34:17

but okay, there's something welcoming,

but yes, I know that they're Catholic.

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: 00:34:20

Do you guys have like, do you

guys have an example or a story?

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: 00:34:24

Maybe it's just even between

yourselves, whether it's something

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: 00:34:28

that you've done within your home to.

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: 00:34:32

To cultivate that Catholic identity or

ultimately to cultivate that union with

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: 00:34:37

God, like whether it's like a crucifix,

maybe, maybe you're going to bed at night

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: 00:34:42

and you're tired, you feel desolate, and

you saw the crucifix in your home, and

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: 00:34:46

all of a sudden it gave you hope and.

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: 00:34:49

Or was there someone who maybe you

invited a friend into your guys's home

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: 00:34:52

and just how you guys have arranged

your house and who you are, where

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: 00:34:57

it actually, um, aided in a deeper

encounter with that person's faith.

581

: 00:35:02

Do you guys have any, any example

or story that you could share?

582

: 00:35:07

Yeah, or you share a story.

583

: 00:35:08

I'm just gonna share a separate story.

584

: 00:35:10

That is, I'm not related to us, but when

we first moved to this neighborhood,

585

: 00:35:17

we were meeting our neighbors

across the street and somehow

586

: 00:35:23

it came up pretty naturally.

587

: 00:35:24

They probably asked us what we

do for work and then it's like,

588

: 00:35:26

okay, well, now you're Catholic.

589

: 00:35:27

Yeah.

590

: 00:35:29

So that's just a funny side note.

591

: 00:35:31

Like anytime anybody asks us

what we do for work, then they'll

592

: 00:35:33

immediately know we're Catholic.

593

: 00:35:34

It's like impossible.

594

: 00:35:35

Oh, what do you do?

595

: 00:35:36

We own a Catholic lifestyle brand.

596

: 00:35:38

Yeah.

597

: 00:35:38

It's impossible for us to hide that

we're Catholic anyways, because

598

: 00:35:41

everything we do is related to the faith.

599

: 00:35:43

But anyway, so the neighbor is

like, learns that we're Catholic.

600

: 00:35:46

He's like, Oh, like you're going

to like the neighbors, like.

601

: 00:35:50

Three houses down that way.

602

: 00:35:52

Like they were like one day I saw so

much smoke coming out of their house

603

: 00:35:58

that I called the fire department on them

because I thought their house was on fire.

604

: 00:36:01

And so like I ran over there to check to

make sure that their house wasn't on fire.

605

: 00:36:04

And it turns out they were just doing

like a house blessing, but we're going

606

: 00:36:08

hard on the incense for the house.

607

: 00:36:11

Like so much incense.

608

: 00:36:13

Could you imagine the amount of incense

that had to have been in that house

609

: 00:36:16

for it to come out of like the windows.

610

: 00:36:18

Where the neighbor ran over to check

to make sure everything was okay.

611

: 00:36:21

They're Filipino Catholics.

612

: 00:36:23

And I think I, I don't know where

we heard this and this may be true,

613

: 00:36:27

may not be true, but that like,

that's pretty common in like Filipino

614

: 00:36:30

Catholic household blessings.

615

: 00:36:32

Like they do, like, I think he said

like black incense, like it was like

616

: 00:36:35

intense incense, but so anyways, they

obviously, you can, you know, that

617

: 00:36:41

that house, the whole neighborhood.

618

: 00:36:45

Yeah, it was pretty funny.

619

: 00:36:47

Um, what I was going to

say, yes, a few experiences.

620

: 00:36:51

One, I love the crucifix.

621

: 00:36:54

And this is just because the

past few years, the Lord has

622

: 00:36:59

taught me in a whole new way.

623

: 00:37:00

What suffering is.

624

: 00:37:01

And I never in my life really

had experienced suffering.

625

: 00:37:05

And so looking at a crucifix has

a whole like new meaning to me.

626

: 00:37:09

Like, and truly, I feel like

that is so innate to Catholicism.

627

: 00:37:12

Like we're often like poked fun at

for like being the ones that are

628

: 00:37:16

always about suffering, but I'm

like, no, but you don't understand.

629

: 00:37:18

It's so transformational, like it's good.

630

: 00:37:22

And so having a crucifix in your home,

in several places in your home, Has

631

: 00:37:27

honestly made an impact on me personally.

632

: 00:37:30

I think of two things that come

to mind one in our bedroom We have

633

: 00:37:34

a crucifix that's on the wall.

634

: 00:37:36

We're like our our bed is up again so

like right above us and Every morning

635

: 00:37:42

when I wake up, I open my eyes and I

see the crucifix on the wall And that

636

: 00:37:47

reminds me to do a quick morning offering.

637

: 00:37:50

And I noticed sometimes we use that

crucifix for photos cause it's the one

638

: 00:37:54

that we have in our shop and everything.

639

: 00:37:55

And sometimes I'll take it down to

like take a quick video and I'll

640

: 00:37:57

forget to put it up the next day.

641

: 00:37:59

And I noticed that when I,

when it's not there, I forget.

642

: 00:38:03

And when it is there, I

wake up and I'm reminded.

643

: 00:38:06

This like today is the Lord's

day that he's given me.

644

: 00:38:09

I'm going to offer my day to the Lord.

645

: 00:38:11

And I thank him for a good night

of rest for another day of life.

646

: 00:38:14

And I offer my day to the Lord.

647

: 00:38:15

So a simple reminder of that, my

life is centered around Christ.

648

: 00:38:19

And that my, when I opened my eyes, the

first thing I see is Jesus on the cross.

649

: 00:38:23

And then we have a crucifix in

the kitchen, which is helpful for

650

: 00:38:27

me because I hate doing dishes.

651

: 00:38:29

And so for me, it's like a

reminder that like our vocation.

652

: 00:38:36

Is the most beautiful thing and at the

same time it's our cross like our vocation

653

: 00:38:41

is our path to heaven And just like the

lord opened the gates of heaven through

654

: 00:38:46

the cross like so Will we reach heaven?

655

: 00:38:50

Hopefully one day through our own crosses

and your vocation comes through many

656

: 00:38:54

little ways of dying to yourself when

you're, when you're married of dying to

657

: 00:38:59

your selfishness and your own desires

and thinking of your spouse before

658

: 00:39:04

yourself and doing the things you don't

want to do out of love for your spouse.

659

: 00:39:09

And so putting the crucifix in the

kitchen where so much life happens, where

660

: 00:39:13

chores are to be done, where cleaning

is to be done, where, um, Conversations

661

: 00:39:18

happen and just so much is going on.

662

: 00:39:20

It's a reminder to me of like, my

vocation is dying to myself and

663

: 00:39:23

serving and loving my husband.

664

: 00:39:25

And that's like, even just for me, it's

transformational and not even, that

665

: 00:39:31

wasn't even a story of like somebody

entering my home, but just even for me,

666

: 00:39:33

that's like very edifying for my faith.

667

: 00:39:52

Well, I was, I was also going to share,

um, we have a, another neighbor who.

668

: 00:39:56

Well, maybe cut that out,

because what if she listens?

669

: 00:40:02

Okay.

670

: 00:40:02

Cut that part out.

671

: 00:40:04

We have no, no, no.

672

: 00:40:07

The part I'm about to where I, where

I just said, we have a neighbor.

673

: 00:40:11

I'm just going to say we have a friend or

just like a friend entered our home once.

674

: 00:40:16

Okay, so another story is we have a

friend that, like, has entered our home

675

: 00:40:22

before who's Protestant and we have these,

like, rosaries around our house, because.

676

: 00:40:27

We have a lot of rosaries in our house.

677

: 00:40:29

Um, and yeah, those always kind of

draw attention because there are

678

: 00:40:32

these like beautiful beads and we

have them displayed like in our

679

: 00:40:37

coffee table and in our front table.

680

: 00:40:39

And so often people who aren't Catholic,

like we'll come in, like grab it and she's

681

: 00:40:42

like, wow, like this is so beautiful.

682

: 00:40:44

And a rosary is and a

lot of times they don't.

683

: 00:40:47

And I've had the same experience.

684

: 00:40:48

Even recently, I went to coffee with

another friend who's Protestant and she

685

: 00:40:51

saw on Instagram that I did something with

rosaries and she's like, Asked if I had

686

: 00:40:55

one she like wanted to see it and it's the

same experience every time of like well,

687

: 00:40:58

this rosary is so beautiful like these

beads like and they're not catholic, but

688

: 00:41:02

they're like Can I, like, can I pray it?

689

: 00:41:04

Like, as a Christian, can I pray a rosary?

690

: 00:41:06

Is that allowed?

691

: 00:41:07

Like, can I do that?

692

: 00:41:08

Like, I want one.

693

: 00:41:09

And so again, I think it just draws that,

that tie of, like, beauty draws us to God.

694

: 00:41:14

And that's just like a simple example

of how, like, a beautiful rosary in

695

: 00:41:17

our home or in my purse, um, kind of

drew that connection for someone to

696

: 00:41:22

Catholicism that maybe, like, wouldn't

have had that connection before.

697

: 00:41:27

That's awesome.

698

: 00:41:28

So what, what would you say just to

kind of, To wrap this up, what would

699

: 00:41:34

you say are like the basics, practical

basics of what a person can do or, you

700

: 00:41:41

know, parents, couple that they could

do in their home to, it's funny this

701

: 00:41:47

catholifies now in my head, but to

catholify the home, what are just some

702

: 00:41:52

basic, uh, practicals, kind of like

step one, this is what, what you need.

703

: 00:41:57

Mm.

704

: 00:41:58

Trey, do you want to say anything

or do you want me to just go?

705

: 00:42:00

This is all you.

706

: 00:42:00

Okay.

707

: 00:42:01

This is your dominion.

708

: 00:42:02

Um, first thing, I would have

your home blessed by a priest.

709

: 00:42:06

So I would have your priest at the parish,

um, invite them over for dinner one

710

: 00:42:11

night and invite them to bless your home.

711

: 00:42:14

Um, and then I would put up a

crucifix and some holy water.

712

: 00:42:19

Um, it's important to mark our homes

physically with like the statement of

713

: 00:42:23

whose we are, um, and we are Christ.

714

: 00:42:25

So come in, bless your home, have holy

water and a crucifix in your home.

715

: 00:42:30

And I would say like, that's, your bare

minimum that I would say that you need.

716

: 00:42:34

Um, you can always have

it in multiple places.

717

: 00:42:36

We have holy water in our entryway table.

718

: 00:42:39

That's close to the front door.

719

: 00:42:40

And then we have holy water on our bedside

as well, so that we can pray with it.

720

: 00:42:44

If we want to bless each other with holy

water before bed, or we're going on a trip

721

: 00:42:49

or something, and we want to bless our

home or bless our travels or whatever.

722

: 00:42:52

Um, those are very practical things to do.

723

: 00:42:56

And then.

724

: 00:42:57

I mean, if you want to elevate it, next

step I would say is like have a home

725

: 00:43:01

altar or a prayer space, again, to like

cultivate that personal relationship

726

: 00:43:05

with God, because that's where you're

going to find that transformation

727

: 00:43:09

is through that prayer, through

that personal relationship with God.

728

: 00:43:11

So this can look many different ways.

729

: 00:43:14

Some people have just like a shelf and

they have a prayer candle and maybe a

730

: 00:43:18

crucifix or a rosary or an image of Mary.

731

: 00:43:22

Some people like to do like a little like

table, um, kind of like an altar almost.

732

: 00:43:27

Like, like a table and they put a little

tablecloth on it and they have all the

733

: 00:43:30

things, um, you could just do like a

prayer wall, um, where you like, put

734

: 00:43:35

different pictures up, uh, you can even

put a shelf up on the prayer wall, but

735

: 00:43:38

you have your Marian image, your statue,

uh, maybe you hang up a rosary, um,

736

: 00:43:44

having a prayer space where you can go

and be with the Lord is very important.

737

: 00:43:50

And that will too make

you want to pray more.

738

: 00:43:52

If you have a spot that you enjoy,

that's like set up for that, it'll

739

: 00:43:58

encourage you to pray more, practically.

740

: 00:44:00

Yeah, um, and we recommend having like

a family Bible, um, so like we have a

741

: 00:44:06

few like big Bibles, um, And I, I mean,

I'm working, I still need to get the

742

: 00:44:12

little, like, table that I want to do

this downstairs, but I really want to,

743

: 00:44:15

like, buy, like, a little Bible, like,

display, like, a little, like, stand

744

: 00:44:18

where you can lay the Bible, like, open.

745

: 00:44:21

And I think that will also

invite more opportunities to

746

: 00:44:24

pray with scripture as a family.

747

: 00:44:26

If you have that, like,

outwardly displayed.

748

: 00:44:28

So your basics, crucifix, holy water.

749

: 00:44:31

Marian image, um, Bible and prayer candle.

750

: 00:44:37

That's five.

751

: 00:44:38

Well, and yeah, you can have the

rosary sitting out somewhere.

752

: 00:44:41

In the rosary, yes.

753

: 00:44:42

Then I'll just remind

you to pray as a family.

754

: 00:44:44

Yeah.

755

: 00:44:45

That's great.

756

: 00:44:46

I want to just share one thing about

holy water because so often I and

757

: 00:44:50

others, we don't realize the power of

holy water and actually what it has.

758

: 00:44:55

Especially if you're Catholic,

you dip it in every day.

759

: 00:44:57

Time you go to mass, Oh, it's just water

that I just do this ritualistic thing.

760

: 00:45:02

So I have a friend who's spiritual

director, uh, can see, uh, angels and

761

: 00:45:07

demons, you know, has that, has that gift.

762

: 00:45:10

And, um, he told her a story about

this young, these young college

763

: 00:45:17

students were experiencing crazy

things happening in their house.

764

: 00:45:21

some demonic stuff, you know, whether

it's pictures flying off the walls

765

: 00:45:25

or, and they called up the priest.

766

: 00:45:27

Hey father, we need you, your help.

767

: 00:45:29

Come on.

768

: 00:45:29

We're scared.

769

: 00:45:30

We need you.

770

: 00:45:31

So the priest goes in and he starts

doing holy water in every single room.

771

: 00:45:36

Yeah.

772

: 00:45:36

Bedroom, the living room.

773

: 00:45:38

He goes every single room.

774

: 00:45:40

The final one is the laundry room.

775

: 00:45:43

He sprinkles the holy water.

776

: 00:45:45

A demon shoots by him, do, do,

do, do, do bounces every room

777

: 00:45:48

and shoots back out the door.

778

: 00:45:51

And no one else saw it, but him.

779

: 00:45:54

We're just like, Whoa.

780

: 00:45:55

Yeah.

781

: 00:45:55

Yeah.

782

: 00:45:56

It shoots past him and the holy

water made the demon basically like

783

: 00:46:00

just scatter throughout the whole.

784

: 00:46:02

And then it's like, Oh, this whole

place is filled with holy water.

785

: 00:46:05

So they went out the door.

786

: 00:46:06

Yeah.

787

: 00:46:06

I remember.

788

: 00:46:08

I, and then I, uh, I traveled

once with Christopher West for

789

: 00:46:11

one of his made for more events.

790

: 00:46:13

I don't think we went to a hotel.

791

: 00:46:14

I stayed at, obviously I

was in a different room.

792

: 00:46:16

He was another room and he knocks

on my door at night, right.

793

: 00:46:18

Before I'm going to bed.

794

: 00:46:20

And he's like, do you have holy water?

795

: 00:46:22

And I was like, no.

796

: 00:46:23

And he had some, he's like, you need it.

797

: 00:46:25

And he starts spraying it in my room.

798

: 00:46:27

He's like, you have no idea

what's happened in here.

799

: 00:46:29

And he starts spraying

it and then he left.

800

: 00:46:30

And it was like a reminder for me

of like, okay, even if I'm like

801

: 00:46:33

traveling, like that's something I

should do and what I should have.

802

: 00:46:37

So that's yeah.

803

: 00:46:40

Holy water's powerful.

804

: 00:46:41

But any, any final thoughts from

the both of you before we conclude?

805

: 00:46:47

Two, two final thoughts, hence why.

806

: 00:46:50

My number one thing was get your

house blessed as like, if you've never

807

: 00:46:54

gotten your house blessed or if it's

been a long time since you've gotten

808

: 00:46:56

your house blessed, like 100 percent

do that because the priest does that.

809

: 00:46:59

He goes around and he, uh, puts holy

water everywhere and sometimes even

810

: 00:47:04

like blessed salt, um, which I think

has other meanings, but I don't fully

811

: 00:47:08

understand the blessed salt yet.

812

: 00:47:10

Um, and then the other thing

I was going to say was, um,

813

: 00:47:14

Do you want to talk about it?

814

: 00:47:15

The holy water spritzer, your genius idea.

815

: 00:47:19

You can share why though.

816

: 00:47:20

So great though.

817

: 00:47:22

Well, okay.

818

: 00:47:22

For the longest time, Trey had told

me like I was cause Catholic, like we

819

: 00:47:26

have to launch this, like holy water

spritzer, like a small, like spritzer

820

: 00:47:30

that you can take holy water with you.

821

: 00:47:31

And I don't know why I was just like,

I don't know, Trey, like, I don't know

822

: 00:47:35

if that's going to like do the best.

823

: 00:47:37

Like, I don't know if like,

that's really going to land well.

824

: 00:47:40

And, and we did it.

825

: 00:47:41

And it is one of our top best sellers.

826

: 00:47:44

It's a small little travel sized.

827

: 00:47:47

Holy water bottle that look kind of if

you're a woman you would know like like

828

: 00:47:51

a travel perfume bottle It's got like a

little spritzer at the top And you it's

829

: 00:47:57

like you can travel with it because it's

less than three ounces Like you can put

830

: 00:48:01

it in your purse in your car in your

bag And that's like the exact an exact

831

: 00:48:06

situation when you could use it brendan

where you you're going on a trip And you

832

: 00:48:10

got to bless your airbnb or your hotel

or whatever Yeah, you go like you put

833

: 00:48:15

it on like perfume Well, with reverence.

834

: 00:48:20

Okay.

835

: 00:48:20

But yes.

836

: 00:48:21

Um, or like if you're a mom and you're

like spritzing your kids, like with holy

837

: 00:48:25

water, uh, while they're out the door to

go to school, you know, you do a little

838

: 00:48:28

sign of the cross, a little holy water go.

839

: 00:48:31

Um, there's so much power in holy water.

840

: 00:48:33

And I so resonate with what you said as

Catholics, we just like, we've been around

841

: 00:48:38

it so much and it's such a mundane thing.

842

: 00:48:40

I feel like for cradle

Catholics that like, we don't

843

: 00:48:43

recognize the power of it, but.

844

: 00:48:45

It is very powerful and highly

encourage you to have it around

845

: 00:48:48

you in your home and, uh, grab a

holy water spritzer so you can.

846

: 00:48:53

Travel with it as well.

847

: 00:48:55

Awesome.

848

: 00:48:56

So I, I like it.

849

: 00:48:58

Everyone go check out the Holy water

spritzers and get yourself as a spritzer.

850

: 00:49:04

So where can, if they, if, if people

want to get involved with what you

851

: 00:49:07

guys are doing, uh, where would they,

where would you, where would they go?

852

: 00:49:11

Yeah, so our website is

West coast catholic.co.

853

: 00:49:15

Um, and then you can find me on

Instagram at mari dot c dot Wagner.

854

: 00:49:20

That's my personal blog.

855

: 00:49:22

Or the shop is at West Coast Catholic.

856

: 00:49:25

And then if you wanna hear more of

my voice, if you're not sick of it

857

: 00:49:28

yet, you can go tune into the podcast

. It's called The Ever Be Podcast, and

858

: 00:49:33

it's a Catholic lifestyle podcast.

859

: 00:49:35

Um, so that is ever be on.

860

: 00:49:38

Spotify, Apple podcasts,

all that kind of things.

861

: 00:49:40

And then we have an

Instagram for that too.

862

: 00:49:41

At ever be podcast.

863

: 00:49:44

Awesome.

864

: 00:49:45

Thanks for coming on the heights podcast.