69: My Best Friends Girls Chat: Staying Friends After College, Long-Distance Friendships, Faith Challenges & More

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Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,

and you're listening to The Ever Be

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Podcast where Faith Meets Lifestyle.

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I'm so excited you're here.

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Whether you're a new listener

or a longtime follower, I know

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there's something here for you.

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Pull up a chair and listen in for

insightful, real life conversations and

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actionable steps on how to claim the.

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Full life God created you for.

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If you're a woman desiring to live

a Christ-centered life in today's

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modern world, then this is for you.

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Welcome to ever be.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Welcome back to Ever Be Everybody.

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Today I think is going to be my

favorite episode I have ever recorded.

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It has been a long time coming to

get these two ladies on my podcast,

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even though I talk to them on my

phone, like on text, like every day.

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Welcome to my two very,

very, very best friends.

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Brie and Lauren say hello.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045: Hey.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

These two gal have been sisters in

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Christ my go-to, my best friends for

literal life since: 2016

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Right?

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Is that true?

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That's literally nine years.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

yeah.

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We're coming up on our

10 year anniversary.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

We need to do something for

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our 10 year anniversary.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045: do.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

do that Mexico trick we've been

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talking about for 10 years.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: down.

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Okay.

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put that on the calendar.

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But, um, anyways, we are

gonna be talking about how to

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maintain these Christ-centered

friendships throughout your life.

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How to cultivate a deeper friendship

with the women in your life.

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Uh, maybe how to bring your faith

into it, how to support each other

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through different scenes, seasons

of life through your vocations as

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you enter into different vocations.

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Um, how to be like real and honest

and just like what is true friendship.

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Really, really look like true,

authentic, virtuous friendship in Christ.

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What does that look like?

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We're gonna dive into all that today,

but fir, but, but first, but before

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we do that, uh, why don't you guys

give a little, like, quick little

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intro about who you are so people

kind of get to know who's Bree, who's

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Lauren, and then we'll talk about

like how we know each other and stuff.

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low.

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Why don't you go first?

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Okay, perfect.

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Um, hi everyone.

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I'm Lauren.

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Um, I'll probably be referred to as low

a lot, so just there's the correlation.

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Um, I currently live in Missoula,

Montana, and I am a physical therapist.

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I met Brie first, um, in this

old trio of a friendship.

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Um, Bri and I were in the same orientation

group our freshman year at Gonzaga.

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So day one in August of 2016,

there we were with our matching

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red t-shirts on and lanyards, and

we played, uh, what's that one?

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Uh, I love my zags.

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Who, and you're like in a circle and,

you know, the most awkward icebreakers.

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But, um, yeah.

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Ever since then that was, uh,

that was a starting point.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: What

are some things that you're into low?

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

What are some things that I'm into?

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Um, I like sports a lot.

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Um, I'm kind of the

sports fan of the group.

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Um, I always remind these girlies

when the zags are playing.

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Um, and let's see, I, um, I love

being with my friends and my family.

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Those are big, big things for me.

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I just recently, like yesterday went on

this beautiful six mile hike in Montana.

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Um, it's.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Which is

a new occurrence for Lauren, I will say.

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Okay.

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When we

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Well, come on.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: she

didn't like hiking, she didn't like

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dogs and she didn't like country music.

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Now don't let that stop you from

falling in love with her because

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you just gotta give her a little

time and she'll come around.

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Now

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

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In the last week,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: boots

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

in the last week I've gone on a six mile

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hike and bought a pair of cow girl boots.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: you

like when I send pictures of Bodie,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

yeah.

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And like Bodhi and Annie are like

basically my, my niece and nephew.

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Uh, so,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Basically.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

so yeah.

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And um, I do attribute all of

that to Bri and Marie and let it

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be known on this podcast, um, for

the world to hear that they get,

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they.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: were

like, we're not taking no for answer.

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You will like hiking.

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You will like dogs and you like country

music if you wanna be friends with us,

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Um, Brie, who would you say, I have a

thought too, but who would you say, like

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Lauren is in the group, or like what role

do you feel like she plays in the group?

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Oh my gosh.

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I think I would say she plays the mom.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

That's what I was gonna say.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045: Like

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

to take care of you.

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Always checking in on you.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Um, yeah, for sure.

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checking in.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

first thought.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

You're like the cool mom.

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You know what I mean?

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You're death is the cool mom, but you

are the mom, you're, you are like,

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yeah, very like good about checking in

when you know people aren't doing well.

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And also on a very practical sense, like

I can just see us like all leaving for

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something, you know, in college and you're

like, do you have this, do you have this?

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Did you bring this?

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Like, did you make sure you pack this?

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And like, that's what my mom did

for me, that she did checklists

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on the way out the door and like,

yeah, Lauren's really good at those.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Okay.

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Brie, what about you?

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Who are you?

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Brie.

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I am also a physical therapist.

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Um, me and Lauren are

twinning on that one.

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I live in kind of central eastern

Oregon in a small town called Pineville.

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Um, I'm married to my husband

Timmy, and we're expecting

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our first child in November.

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Um, so these girlies are gonna be aunts.

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Um, so that's kind of

the phase of life I'm in.

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Um, things I'm interested in is

everything Lauren used to not like.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah, basically.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

so like, just outdoors, which is like

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perfect for where I live now, but, and

anything on a lake or hiking or, um,

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country music, rodeos, whatever it be.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yep.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045: but

yes, I never took Lauren's, uh, an answer.

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No.

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I always was like, Nope,

we're gonna go do it.

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coming with,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Have fun one.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

gonna

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Pretend like you're having fun.

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That's what I told myself.

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Just smile.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Um, so I'm very proud of

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all the progress she's made.

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She was amazing beforehand too, but it's

just fun to like share in those things.

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So

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yes.

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love that.

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Lo, who would you say

Brie is in the group?

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Like what was she, what

role does she play?

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

I'm trying to think really hard.

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What's, you know, it's like those

Instagram reels that I always

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send, like there's like the

three people, she's the driver,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

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True.

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I, I feel like,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

she gets us from point A to point B.

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I can't put a name to it.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: I feel

like the two words that come to mind

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for Brie are like the glue and the joy.

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Like I feel like Brie's, and we've

seen this like throughout different

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friendships that we had in college

and stuff like Brie was like really

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good at like bringing people together.

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And kind of like, kind of like

creating like the group, I feel like,

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you know, kind of like that glue.

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And then I think the joy is because like

she's just like always like bringing this

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like uplifting, like funny, joyful energy

into a conversation and into the like

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hangout and like laughing her butt off

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah, always laughing.

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Always laughing.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

always laughing and it's so refreshing

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'cause as an adult I just feel

like you just don't get laughing,

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get into laughing fits enough.

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And that's just is never

scarce when we are around Brie,

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which is like so necessary.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

I love that.

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Thank

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

The glue's a good one.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Uh,

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mari?

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We gotta talk about what

Mari is in the group.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: yeah.

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Who would you say I am in the group?

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

I mean, obviously like everybody's

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gonna know this about you, but

you're like the creative, you know,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yes.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

you were always good at coming

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up with like creative ideas.

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Like, not even just like making

art or something, but like

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

to do, or creative

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

But I think when people don't know

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maybe as much or don't see as much

as like, you are the goofy one,

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you are, I don't know, I just feel

like you always make people laugh

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and you like do silly stuff and

I feel like, I feel like you're,

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you're part of the goofy club.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Oh, we.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

funny because I think Trey would

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say something very similar and I

think it's hard to portray that on

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social media sometimes, because I'm

like, what do you want me to do?

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Like, make a silly face

and post that like,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Wait, so like, is this an appropriate

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time to talk about the Pope video?

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

You can talk about the Pope video.

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I mean, I don't feel like that's

like necessarily my goofiest moment.

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It be an embarrassing moment.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Oh, wait, no, I have a better one.

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The one this, I have this one video of

Mari, she, um, before they had all these

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like people producing their rosaries

for them, like we we're like OG rosary

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makers on this podcast right now.

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And they used to, they used to have

these wooden beads that they had to,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: they

were, they were like shell shell beads

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

The gold ones.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: gold.

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Shell beads.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

you had to manually like put,

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like drill a hole through them.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

through every single bead.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

And so Bri and Mari and I lived on the

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second floor of our house in college.

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And so you'd walk up the stairs and

you'd immediately see Mari's room, and

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we never really had our doors closed.

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And so like one night I'm

walking upstairs, it was late.

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It was like at least 9:00 PM

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Oh, way later,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

like,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: 10 or 11.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

like it's okay, we're just setting the

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scene because it was pitch dark outside.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Mari is sitting at her desk

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in the corner of her room,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Still wearing my parka

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

sunglasses on

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

for eye protection in caseid

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tidbits gets in my eye.

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Okay.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

these holes.

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So just like if you have an

og, west Coast Catholic, like

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

No, that black sweat and tears.

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Yeah, it was really put into that.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Anyways,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: a

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

the song that, um, the song that

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I played on the video is, uh,

I Wear My Sunglasses that night

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: It was.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

and it's just, she turns around and

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she's got her head like bobbing.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

We'll have a picture of that.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

to unleash that video.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah, I'll put a picture of

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it in like the weekly recap.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yes.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

I love it.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Okay.

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Awesome.

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But the reason we're here is because

we've been friends through it all

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and those early college years.

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Really?

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Oh wait, did we talk about how all of you?

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Oh, sorry.

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That was, I was supposed to say that.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

That's fine.

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You can go.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

We all met, or me and Lauren met

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Mari at the Cog, which at Gonzaga,

I don't actually know what it

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stands for, but we always thought it

sounded for the center of Gonzaga.

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It's like the cafeteria.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

It's actually, actually, I

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think like words, I believe.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

I know,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

not fancy enough for that.

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So, center of Gonzaga, it was,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Is the first time I've ever

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heard that and I love it.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

uh, the cafeteria.

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And we, me and Lauren went with

one of our dorm mates who was

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meeting some random girl Mari.

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Um, and they were gonna like

drive back to Seattle, which is

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like a four or five hour drive or

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Uh, and we, we went with the,

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our friend because she was

like, I don't know this girl.

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Like, I don't know if

she's gonna be weird.

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And so

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

went to this lunch and we're like,

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we don't know this person at all.

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Mari doesn't know any of us.

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Uh, and we met her and then

we loved her from there.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: They

basically went to the cafeteria to

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like vet if I was like a safe person

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

to drive home with.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

that is exactly what it was.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045: We

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Uh,

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

same approval.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: really

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

We did.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

I passed the test.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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But I remember meeting all you guys and

being like, Ooh, wait, that was so fun.

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Like, that was just like such a fun, like

girly lunch, like hope I see them again.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

What's actually hilarious is that

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I met my best friends at the cog

and I met my husband at the cog.

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So the cog

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The place to be.

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If you are a Gonzaga student, make sure

you are at the cog as much as possible.

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Okay.

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And like we said, we've been friends

for like nine years at this point.

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And I would say, and we all would probably

agree that the biggest thing that has

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grounded our friendship is our faith.

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And the fact that like we all share the

same faith and it's something that is

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important to all of us in our individual

lives and that we try and encourage

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each other in a collective as well.

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how do you feel like Faith has

influenced our friendship over the years?

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Um, whether that's, like any memories

you have from the beginning or even

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now, we can kind of just talk about it.

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Like it doesn't have to

be in chronological order.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

I just feel like the, the aspect

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of faith, and, and this is true

for any relationship, but it just

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automatically gives you like a deeper

sense of vulnerability with the person.

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Especially like in a small group that we

had, you know, just being able to talk.

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About questions we had about

the faith or, um, difficulties

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or things that we were trying.

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Um, I think it just, it just automatically

takes you to that next level that maybe

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with other friendships you're not getting

to until like a year in or two years in.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

and it also, I mean, in a general sense,

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it's just kind of places you in the

same moral compass as your friends.

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and I think that's really helpful, um,

just because you kind of know where

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you stand and you can help that person

become a better version of themselves

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without being like, oh, I don't know

what they think about this, or where

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they stand on this aspect of decision.

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Um, yeah, I think it just, those

are some things that came to mind.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

I think another thing that, we talked

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about a lot, especially our junior

and senior years was when we really

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started to like dive into our faith.

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Like, that was like after, like Mario

had gotten back from being abroad and

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like, we'll talk about it, but like

that was after Brie's conversion.

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Like that's when we really like

started really diving into it.

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And I think what we found, and

we talked about this so much,

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was that we realized that we were

a minority in our social group.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Like we were 20, 21-year-old girls,

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like at a Catholic college that didn't

always seem that like or feel that way,

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

which could probably

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be a podcast in itself.

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But, um, like we, like recognized the

fact that like we would go to daily mass,

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like regular, like regularly together.

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Like luckily at Gonzaga, like they

did offer that like at lunchtime,

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and we would do that together.

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But I like have this vivid memory of

like catching a ride back to campus

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with like a couple of classmates,

um, from the airport one night.

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And neither of them were,

were people of faith.

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And I remember saying something like

along the lines of like, oh, like I,

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I need to like get ready or I need to

make sure I like go to mass tomorrow.

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And like the next day was like a Monday.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

And I remember the guy being like,

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wait, you're going to mass tomorrow?

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Didn't you go to Mass today?

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

I was like, yeah, I did go to Mass

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today and I'm gonna go to Mass tomorrow

and I'm probably gonna go to Mass on

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Wednesday and Friday and and then I'm

definitely gonna go again on Sunday.

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And so it was like we had a lot of

conversations about like how, so like

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going back to Breeze's point about

like how like it automatically like

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brought us so much closer together

and like we got farther quicker and we

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were like all on the same like level

of Yeah, this like moral compass.

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But it was because we realized

that we were like different

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than everybody else around us.

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And there were moments where I felt

like the three of us definitely

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had to like, like explain ourselves

or like let Yeah, like, oh

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

defend ourselves a little bit,

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

no, that's a good word.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: depending

how we were living out our faith in our

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life, like why we did certain things

or why we didn't do certain things.

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Like people always Yeah.

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Wondered, like, just like stuff that

you, like encounter in college, you know?

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And just in the, in the, in the.

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Just a secular world in general.

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Like people just like the world

lives differently than, um, somebody

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who really follows Christ lives.

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And so I I love that you

brought that point up, Lauren.

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'cause I think that definitely

brought us to closer together as well.

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And it was such a gift that we had each

other in college because even though

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we had some of those kind of awkward

moments with people where they would

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ask you like, why are you going to mass?

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Or like, why don't you do this?

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Or like, you know, what does the

Catholic Church think about this?

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And we like had to answer it.

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Like, we knew that we had like kinda

like our sisters kind of right behind us

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to be like, well, yeah actually, and me

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: And

you know, and we knew at the end of the

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day, like if people didn't understand

who we were, like, it's okay because we

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had two most important people back home.

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Like who were our good friends and

actually like, loved us for who we were.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Um, which is so important.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Brie, I want you

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

sorry.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

no, I was just gonna say.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

was just saying is like, we, we met each

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other at like a very unique time where

like we were young, you know, young

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adults and so like we, this is our first

time being away from our families and I

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think there's so many, you know, maybe

your younger listeners can relate to this

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too, but there's so many different poles.

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Like, you're away from your

family, you're away from like,

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the authority, um, your parents.

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And I think just realizing like we,

we, the three of us, like are family,

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like we're sisters of Christ, you

know, and like we can bond over that.

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And yeah, just like what Lauren was

saying with, um, you know, being,

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being kind of set apart, but it, it,

it really did feel like we fell into

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a family that like held us accountable

and, um, we could have those hard

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conversations with and stuff like that.

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So it was just a unique

time in our life, I think.

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Um,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045: do,

like consider you guys my sisters, so,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Oh yeah.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Totally.

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you share braid just a little bit

about, obviously we can't go into

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the whole story, that's gotta be its

own podcast episode, but a little bit

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about how like our friendship played a

role in you converting to Catholicism.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah.

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So when I came to Gonzaga, I

wasn't really Christian at all.

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I mean, my parents had raised me

under, you know, like we believe

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in God and stuff like that, but

nothing kind of deeper than that.

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We didn't really go to, you know,

church on Sundays and stuff like that.

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Um, but when I met Lauren and

Mari and one other girl that was

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kind of in our group, they started

talking about their relationship

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with Jesus and things like that.

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And they would, um, bring, I so

vividly remember, like everybody had

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their own little Jesus calling book.

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And like, we'd

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yes.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

and we would talk about it and stuff.

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And, I just really remember

feeling like, wow, I think I'm

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missing something, you know?

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Um.

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And it was you guys who kinda started

to invite me to mass or different, um,

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Christian non-denominational services

and kind of through that sparked

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an interest in the faith and stuff.

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And, and you know, it was many

years kind of going to Christian,

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non-denominational churches, also

going to mass sometimes with you too.

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Um, that I kinda realized this is

actually something, that I'm missing.

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And, and there's such a light about Mari

and Lauren that I don't have in my life.

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Um, even though I was generally

very happy person, it was just like

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that deeper kind of light, you know,

the Holy Spirit coming out of you.

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Um, that was missing for me.

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So yeah, I, these, these two

girls are, are my sponsors.

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But yeah, junior year converted

to the Catholic faith.

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Um, I finally kind of trickled away

from the non-denominational church just

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'cause I felt like that tradition and

obviously the Eucharist was missing.

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And, and these girls really helped

me and, um, never really pushed me

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hard at all, but just kind of held

my hand and, and, and let me ask

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hard questions and answer them.

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And if they didn't know the

answer, then they went and they

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figured it out, which was awesome.

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I just loved that, like they always

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045: Um,

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

yeah.

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And they stood by me my junior

year and when I came to the church.

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So, it was really cool listening.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: It was so

cool to see that all unfold in your life.

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And I know that you said like, you

know, many years you went to church

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and then you kind of converted.

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But I'm like, actually if you look at

it, it was literally like two years.

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It was like two.

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

true.

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mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Of kind

of like on this journey, which in college

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that's half your college experience.

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So it's like a, a majority of it.

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But I feel like now being in the adult

world and kind of just getting to

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know people's conversions and how that

can take so much time, like years and

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years and years to get there, it's

actually incredible how the Holy Spirit

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worked in your heart so quickly to

get you to a place to be like, yeah,

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like this is true, and I'm all in.

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And, um, I think part of that

was just like your openness

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as you were seeking for truth.

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Like a lot of people come in with

preconceived notions or judgments about

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different denominations or different

religions, and that I think sways a lot

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of their opinions as their seeking truth.

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But I just remember you were very open.

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You're like, my friend invited

me to this Naam church.

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Great.

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Like, I'm gonna go, like, there's

this worship night on campus.

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I'm gonna go, I invited you to adoration

once, or like, we set up an adoration

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for like our little Bible study

and you were like, what am I doing?

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: 00:22:11

And I'm like, you just, just come on

and just sit there and like, I'll just,

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: 00:22:14

you know, don't you worry about it.

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: 00:22:15

You just pray and

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squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

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: 00:22:18

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: that

was like a really big moment for you.

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Like, you like walked in the

chapel and like, I don't know,

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do you wanna share that moment?

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: 00:22:25

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah, I remember.

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: 00:22:26

Um, so Mari and one of our other

friends at the time, like invited

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: 00:22:30

me to lead this Bible study, which

I thought was so funny at the time.

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: 00:22:34

'cause I was like, I don't know anything.

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: 00:22:37

Um, and it ended up being such a awesome

thing for me and it really pushed me.

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: 00:22:41

But in the beginning I was

very confused by the invited

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: 00:22:44

me, but very glad I said yes.

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: 00:22:46

Um, yeah, Mari Mari and I ended

up being like the sole leaders

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of the group towards, um, the

end of our sophomore year.

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Uh, but Mari wanted to set up

an adoration night for, um, our

532

: 00:23:01

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Bible said,

533

: 00:23:02

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

group.

534

: 00:23:02

Yeah.

535

: 00:23:02

And.

536

: 00:23:04

I didn't know anything about it.

537

: 00:23:05

I was like, what are we doing?

538

: 00:23:07

And I remember her saying like, this

is like, this is Jesus in front of us.

539

: 00:23:11

And like, this is crazy, but

I thought you were crazy.

540

: 00:23:15

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: right?

541

: 00:23:16

Yeah.

542

: 00:23:16

No, I mean, I, I would

figure anybody would think

543

: 00:23:19

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah.

544

: 00:23:20

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yes.

545

: 00:23:20

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

was crazy if they didn't.

546

: 00:23:21

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

believe that.

547

: 00:23:22

She like thinks this little host is Jesus.

548

: 00:23:24

Like that's crazy, but okay, I'm gonna go.

549

: 00:23:26

I was always wanting to like learn more.

550

: 00:23:29

That's why I went to so many different

churches and stuff like that.

551

: 00:23:32

And I just remember walking

in there and sitting down and

552

: 00:23:34

looking and just like having this

overwhelming sense of that is Jesus.

553

: 00:23:40

And I think I cried the entire

hour that we were in there.

554

: 00:23:44

I was

555

: 00:23:44

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

556

: 00:23:45

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

I think that was pretty much when I

557

: 00:23:47

started to move away from uh, like the

Christian non-denominational churches

558

: 00:23:51

and solely started going to mass.

559

: 00:23:52

Um.

560

: 00:23:54

I remember looking over the pew

that we were sitting in and there

561

: 00:23:57

was just a box of tissues sitting

right in front of me and I was like,

562

: 00:24:01

I feel like these are here for me.

563

: 00:24:03

I need them.

564

: 00:24:04

And I, I think I used

like most of the box.

565

: 00:24:06

But yeah, it was uh, definitely

such a humbling moment.

566

: 00:24:10

And we walked out and I remember just

you looking at me and we're walking

567

: 00:24:13

back to the apartment we lived in and

you're like, so what did you think?

568

: 00:24:18

And I'm like, you right.

569

: 00:24:21

That is Jesus.

570

: 00:24:23

I'm so overcome.

571

: 00:24:27

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

I remember that conversation

572

: 00:24:28

on the way back.

573

: 00:24:29

Well, I just remember being in like

in the chapel and just like hearing

574

: 00:24:32

you cry and I was like, oh my gosh.

575

: 00:24:33

Like this is either

really good or really bad.

576

: 00:24:36

And I like, and I'm like, I'm

praying for you the whole time.

577

: 00:24:39

Like, I hope it's good.

578

: 00:24:41

And as we left, yeah, as

you shared like, oh my gosh.

579

: 00:24:45

Like I just felt this

overwhelming presence of love.

580

: 00:24:47

And like the second I walked

in I knew that's Jesus.

581

: 00:24:51

And I don't know how to explain it.

582

: 00:24:52

And I remember you asking me about

like, okay, so like what does this mean?

583

: 00:24:56

Like the Eucharist and Jesus's presence

there and like they did communion

584

: 00:25:00

at the non-denominational service.

585

: 00:25:02

So like, is that Jesus?

586

: 00:25:04

And kind of I was breaking down like,

like look like in the actual like

587

: 00:25:08

sacrament of the mass, like the host

turns into the body and blood of Christ.

588

: 00:25:12

But like this same sacrament doesn't

happen in any other non or any other

589

: 00:25:17

denomination Christian nomination.

590

: 00:25:18

So like the Catholic church is the

only church that holds like the

591

: 00:25:22

true body, blood, soul, and amenity

of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist.

592

: 00:25:27

And I remember you just being like,

huh, so only the Catholic church.

593

: 00:25:32

And I was like,

594

: 00:25:34

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah.

595

: 00:25:35

Yeah.

596

: 00:25:35

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: And I,

I just feel like that moment you were

597

: 00:25:37

like, oh, crap man, I gotta do this.

598

: 00:25:39

Then like I,

599

: 00:25:40

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah.

600

: 00:25:40

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

I gotta be Catholic.

601

: 00:25:41

Like I can't avoid that.

602

: 00:25:43

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah.

603

: 00:25:43

I really like, feel like

it was like that next week.

604

: 00:25:46

I was like, okay, I'm gonna go

meet with somebody to like get

605

: 00:25:49

registered for our CAA because, um,

it was just undeniable like that.

606

: 00:25:53

And,

607

: 00:25:53

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

608

: 00:25:54

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

adoration has been so special

609

: 00:25:56

for me ever since, like, always

remember that moment, like when,

610

: 00:26:01

when I go to adoration, just like,

611

: 00:26:03

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

612

: 00:26:04

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

me to the church.

613

: 00:26:05

And it's, I mean, it's Jesus.

614

: 00:26:07

So

615

: 00:26:08

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

And I think there's something so

616

: 00:26:09

special about us three getting

to experience that together.

617

: 00:26:13

Like you are going through your

conversion, but Lauren and I

618

: 00:26:15

got to walk alongside you seeing

619

: 00:26:17

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

620

: 00:26:18

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: this

being uncovered and as lo and I being

621

: 00:26:21

cradle Catholics, like a lot of these

things, like we know and we've grown

622

: 00:26:24

up knowing and so they're not as like

nuanced and like exciting to relearn.

623

: 00:26:29

And I just remember like answering all

your like, like I literally remember

624

: 00:26:32

opening a bible with you being like,

I'm like, okay, gospel of John.

625

: 00:26:35

You're like, what's a gospel?

626

: 00:26:37

I was like, oh, we are on, we

627

: 00:26:41

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Or it was like,

628

: 00:26:42

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: zero.

629

: 00:26:42

Yeah.

630

: 00:26:43

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

yeah.

631

: 00:26:43

Or it was like, okay, here's a, here's

a verse like John six 13, and you're

632

: 00:26:50

like, okay, six 13, like, and then

your, your science brain comes in.

633

: 00:26:53

You're like, is that a ratio?

634

: 00:26:55

Like, uh, and I'm like, no.

635

: 00:26:57

Like that's chapter six, verse 13.

636

: 00:27:00

Like, this is, this is

the level we were at.

637

: 00:27:03

But also I think that I learned so much,

like even though like I was a cradle

638

: 00:27:10

Catholic and went to Catholic school my

whole life, like there were things that

639

: 00:27:14

you would ask that I would be like, huh.

640

: 00:27:18

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

641

: 00:27:19

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Um, I think I probably read the

642

: 00:27:21

Catechism more in those like two years

than I ever did in my life before that.

643

: 00:27:26

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah.

644

: 00:27:26

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

And it was just because you

645

: 00:27:27

were asking such good questions.

646

: 00:27:29

And I think that like your,

your RCIA class like it.

647

: 00:27:34

It like forced you to like

come up with those questions.

648

: 00:27:38

Like, I don't know that you were

like really getting that out of that

649

: 00:27:43

class, but like you knew like Ask

Mari and I like the, the next step.

650

: 00:27:48

Like, they were giving you exactly what

you like, exactly what you were there

651

: 00:27:52

for, but you like, you personally, you

Brianna bang, Regan wanted more like,

652

: 00:27:59

yeah, that was, that taught me a lot too.

653

: 00:28:03

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

654

: 00:28:03

Yeah.

655

: 00:28:03

And like if you've ever walked with

somebody like really finding their

656

: 00:28:06

faith, it's so like contagious.

657

: 00:28:09

I feel like, to be around people that

are like truly like in the Lord or

658

: 00:28:15

like seeking him actively or just like

re like, like having this like spark

659

: 00:28:19

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Mm-hmm.

660

: 00:28:20

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: their

soul for the first time or reigniting it.

661

: 00:28:22

So it's incredible that we all kind of got

to walk through that together and, and we

662

: 00:28:26

carried it throughout the rest of college

and even throughout our friendship now.

663

: 00:28:31

So if we wanna talk about a few of the

ways that, like what are some ways that

664

: 00:28:35

we continue to keep faith at the center

of our friendship throughout the past

665

: 00:28:38

couple years or like the past nine years?

666

: 00:28:42

You know, couple.

667

: 00:28:44

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

We have, since college, we were

668

: 00:28:46

talking about this before we, before

we started, we've since college done.

669

: 00:28:52

At least like three bible studies,

670

: 00:28:55

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045: Mm.

671

: 00:28:55

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

like virtually.

672

: 00:28:57

Like I think, you know, as we talked

about like at the beginning, since

673

: 00:29:00

college, the three of us have not lived

in the same city, the same place at all.

674

: 00:29:06

\ So everything that we've done from

like a really intentional, like faith

675

: 00:29:12

standpoint has been, has been virtual.

676

: 00:29:16

And so, yeah, like during

COVID we did that Bible study.

677

: 00:29:21

We did a bible study just like within

the last like year or year and a half.

678

: 00:29:27

So that's one thing, one thing that we

do that, you know, and even taking the

679

: 00:29:34

faith part out of it, like just for a

second, the intentionality that we have

680

: 00:29:39

to have like as three adult women who

each have jobs, who each have families

681

: 00:29:44

and friends in three different places

on three different time zones, like.

682

: 00:29:50

To find and like, we're so funny because,

we'll, we'll be at like the onset of

683

: 00:29:54

these things and we'll be like, okay,

on Wednesdays at seven, we're gonna

684

: 00:29:58

do this for the next eight weeks.

685

: 00:30:00

And then like, we'll get to the

first like week and then we'll

686

: 00:30:03

get to the next Wednesday and

someone will be like, doesn't work.

687

: 00:30:06

Uh, I've got like X, Y, or Z.

688

: 00:30:09

And so it's like, that's really

part of it too, is that we're,

689

: 00:30:13

but we get on each other about it.

690

: 00:30:15

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

691

: 00:30:16

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045: a

very like healthy like, friendship way

692

: 00:30:19

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

693

: 00:30:19

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

like, no, like you need

694

: 00:30:20

to prioritize this.

695

: 00:30:23

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

696

: 00:30:23

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Like figure, figure something else out.

697

: 00:30:25

Like

698

: 00:30:26

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: We're

a high committal friendship group.

699

: 00:30:28

We do not let non slide.

700

: 00:30:31

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

701

: 00:30:31

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: like

collectively as a group is our biggest

702

: 00:30:33

pet peeve is if you don't wanna be

here, this, we're gonna have a problem.

703

: 00:30:37

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

704

: 00:30:38

Like I'll show you the door.

705

: 00:30:41

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: And

I think, I think that practice was

706

: 00:30:43

just carried out from college because

since college we were in some sort of

707

: 00:30:46

small group or Bible study altogether,

and so we were cultivating kind of

708

: 00:30:50

that deeper knowledge and thirst

for like learning more about our

709

: 00:30:54

faith, learning more about scripture,

learning how to apply it in our lives.

710

: 00:30:58

even like we were in a Bible

study with other people as

711

: 00:31:00

well, like not just us three,

712

: 00:31:02

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

713

: 00:31:02

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

COVID hit we were like, well let's

714

: 00:31:04

just keep it going, just us three.

715

: 00:31:06

'cause we were still in college

and at the time like we were all

716

: 00:31:08

quarantined into our own houses.

717

: 00:31:10

And so I remember we kept doing a Bible

study, just us three, even through COVID.

718

: 00:31:15

Like we would all sit on my bed

719

: 00:31:17

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

720

: 00:31:17

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: in my

721

: 00:31:17

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Cloud.

722

: 00:31:18

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

and do our own little study and, and

723

: 00:31:20

then we just kind of kept that going

even beyond college, which I love.

724

: 00:31:24

I think that's something that maybe

a lot of people haven't experienced

725

: 00:31:26

that they like maybe had a bible study

of friends in college and are like,

726

: 00:31:32

dang, that sucks that I don't have

that anymore now that I'm in college.

727

: 00:31:35

Let this be your encouragement

and your reminder that you

728

: 00:31:37

can do things long distance.

729

: 00:31:38

It's obviously not as fun as being all

in person and if you have an opportunity

730

: 00:31:43

to be in a small group in person, that's

awesome, but continuing to invest in

731

: 00:31:48

your like long distance friendships

in that way I think is also important.

732

: 00:31:52

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Mm-hmm.

733

: 00:31:53

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

For sure.

734

: 00:31:54

I think too, like when, you know,

and this is more focused on the long

735

: 00:31:58

distance aspect, uh, we did a ton

of things in college to like ignite

736

: 00:32:03

our faith, um, and stay committed

to the three of us together.

737

: 00:32:07

Um, but I really don't feel like

there's a time where I hang up on

738

: 00:32:11

the phone with, maybe it's like all

three of us or one of you guys that

739

: 00:32:15

I'm not like, Hey, how's your faith?

740

: 00:32:16

You know, um, just like a quick

check in and, you know, if somebody's

741

: 00:32:20

struggling or something, like having

that follow up later on, maybe the

742

: 00:32:24

next week or later that week, you know,

just being like, Hey, how's it going?

743

: 00:32:27

Like,

744

: 00:32:28

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

745

: 00:32:28

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Have you prayed that Rosary?

746

: 00:32:29

Have you started that book?

747

: 00:32:31

Um, because at the end of the day,

like, uh, you know, your relationship

748

: 00:32:36

with Jesus is, is, is a relationship

and it needs accountability.

749

: 00:32:40

And sometimes if you don't have

that from people around you, um,

750

: 00:32:43

it's important to, to stay connected

with your friends in that way.

751

: 00:32:46

So I, I always appreciate that,

like, you guys too, or it's

752

: 00:32:49

like, Hey, how's your faith?

753

: 00:32:50

You know?

754

: 00:32:51

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

755

: 00:32:52

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

and it's definitely a time.

756

: 00:32:54

to be vulnerable too or, or be like, it's

great and you know, maybe they need help.

757

: 00:32:58

Um, but I just think in this seamless

aspect that's always been super helpful.

758

: 00:33:04

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

759

: 00:33:05

think the last thing I wanna say too,

and we can always like, I feel like

760

: 00:33:08

faith as a foundation is gonna weave

into like so many of these conversations.

761

: 00:33:12

So like something else comes

up, we can bring it up.

762

: 00:33:13

But the last thing I wanna say about

this as well is that us being rooted in

763

: 00:33:19

our faith and having that be truly the

most important thing in our lives has

764

: 00:33:23

allowed us to have a culture in our friend

group of just like openness and honesty.

765

: 00:33:30

When we feel like one person is

like straying, right from like

766

: 00:33:34

their faith or from the way like

the Lord is calling them to live.

767

: 00:33:37

And I remember like in college, like we're

surrounded, especially in college by just

768

: 00:33:41

like major like mortal sin all the time.

769

: 00:33:44

And I remember like giving each other

the space to be like, Hey, like you

770

: 00:33:49

can like hold me accountable, you

know, or like you can call me out or.

771

: 00:33:52

Like, I remember being like, okay, like

I'm only gonna have like this many drinks.

772

: 00:33:55

Like, I want you to like, keep me

accountable for that and like, don't

773

: 00:33:58

be the friend that like, pushes

me to drink more because like, I'm

774

: 00:34:01

trying not to be drunk, you know?

775

: 00:34:03

Or like any sort of like boundaries with

my boyfriend, you know, Trey, in college

776

: 00:34:07

I was, I remember telling Bri, she like

shared a wall with me and we were like

777

: 00:34:11

best friends or, uh, roommate, like,

uh, neighbors at the top of the stairs.

778

: 00:34:15

And I was like, make sure

my door's always open.

779

: 00:34:18

Like, you know, like, be my dad.

780

: 00:34:19

Like no boys in the room unless

the like, you know, doors open

781

: 00:34:22

and like friends are upstairs.

782

: 00:34:23

Like, I want you to help keep me

accountable in these, like not just

783

: 00:34:27

my actual faith, but how faith informs

my life decisions and how I'm choosing

784

: 00:34:32

to live a Christ-centered life.

785

: 00:34:33

And that is also that I also

something that I think is so

786

: 00:34:36

valuable in a friendship that

a lot of people don't have.

787

: 00:34:39

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

788

: 00:34:40

I think, uh, it was important that

you like, gave me, you know, also the

789

: 00:34:44

permission to hold you accountable.

790

: 00:34:45

Like, there were multiple times

where I'd walk upstairs and be

791

: 00:34:48

like, oh, your door's closed.

792

: 00:34:49

And I would just shoot you a text

and maybe you were like, oh, we're

793

: 00:34:52

just like working on West Coast

Catholic something, or we're reading

794

: 00:34:55

a book or something and I'd be like,

okay, well like in 30 minutes, make

795

: 00:34:57

sure your door's open when I leave.

796

: 00:34:59

You know?

797

: 00:34:59

Um, you giving me the like,

permission to be able to be

798

: 00:35:04

that for you too was important.

799

: 00:35:06

Um, or like the drink thing too.

800

: 00:35:09

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

let's talk about friendship after

801

: 00:35:11

college and being long distance.

802

: 00:35:14

'cause that has been tough.

803

: 00:35:16

Like that has just not been easy

and nobody, I think, prepares you

804

: 00:35:20

for how hard and sad long distance

best friendship is gonna be.

805

: 00:35:24

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

806

: 00:35:25

Especially because our, uh, our, like

last time together was quarantine.

807

: 00:35:31

Like talk about the most amount of time

you can spend with a group of people.

808

: 00:35:36

Like we were always together.

809

: 00:35:40

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Always,

810

: 00:35:40

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

811

: 00:35:41

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

that adjustment like as we left

812

: 00:35:42

college and all moved away to

start our jobs or grad school and

813

: 00:35:47

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Where, so like where

814

: 00:35:48

did you go first, Marie?

815

: 00:35:50

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

I went home for the summer to

816

: 00:35:53

fundraise and then I moved to Nebraska

817

: 00:35:55

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah,

818

: 00:35:56

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: to be a

folks missionary at the end of the summer.

819

: 00:35:58

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

that's right.

820

: 00:35:58

Okay.

821

: 00:35:59

And then Brie and I

both went home as well.

822

: 00:36:00

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

823

: 00:36:01

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Did we see each other that summer?

824

: 00:36:04

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

I don't think we saw each

825

: 00:36:04

other until Mari got married.

826

: 00:36:07

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045: Oh,

827

: 00:36:09

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

828

: 00:36:09

I think you're right.

829

: 00:36:10

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

that's right.

830

: 00:36:12

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Um, actually Lauren, I think you

831

: 00:36:14

came out to visit, but it was sad.

832

: 00:36:16

It was a sad transition.

833

: 00:36:17

It was like leaving your parents

for college for the first time.

834

: 00:36:21

It was like leaving that family that you

made and then that you were quarantining

835

: 00:36:26

with during like a really scary time where

it was like, what's going on in the world.

836

: 00:36:30

Um, and just like knowing that we

were never gonna get that back.

837

: 00:36:34

Like, just like, I'm gonna walk over

to your room and it's two seconds

838

: 00:36:39

away and I'm gonna jump on your bed

in the morning and then we're gonna

839

: 00:36:42

go make breakfast and have fun.

840

: 00:36:43

You know?

841

: 00:36:44

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

842

: 00:36:45

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

it was really sad and difficult and,

843

: 00:36:48

um, just hard to like, make those kind

of friendships outside of college too.

844

: 00:36:54

Um, where it's just like that

easygoing friendship that you can just.

845

: 00:36:59

Just do anything with like, sit on

the couch and just talk for hours.

846

: 00:37:02

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

847

: 00:37:03

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

but I really do feel like the, in that

848

: 00:37:07

first year, we did such a good job

of, talking to one another, um, on the

849

: 00:37:12

phone over FaceTime, all those kinds

of things, especially since it was

850

: 00:37:16

hard, um, with you moving and me and

Lauren like trying to figure out what,

851

: 00:37:20

what our next steps were and stuff.

852

: 00:37:23

Um, but we always just kind of

met each other where we were at.

853

: 00:37:26

And um, think that always that made

that transition a little bit easier.

854

: 00:37:31

And, and I just remember

always telling each other like,

855

: 00:37:34

we are gonna stay friends.

856

: 00:37:36

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah,

857

: 00:37:36

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

we have to make this work.

858

: 00:37:40

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

yeah, yeah.

859

: 00:37:40

But I do remember it being sad and almost

feel like it was worse than moving,

860

: 00:37:45

moving away from your parents' house

because like, you know, you always have

861

: 00:37:48

your family and like you're always gonna

go back to them and it's like, yeah,

862

: 00:37:52

you'd like to think you're always gonna

have your friends, but like that really

863

: 00:37:56

takes like a lot of effort and work.

864

: 00:37:59

I mean, thank God, like we're still

all friends, but even still, it's

865

: 00:38:02

like, yeah, it's such driving away.

866

: 00:38:05

I remember like driving away from

the house, just like in tears in the

867

: 00:38:08

car and just being like, I will never

get this again, and it just like,

868

: 00:38:12

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

I remember Brie leaving, Brie left

869

: 00:38:14

at like 4:00 AM and we were all awake

standing out there with posters.

870

: 00:38:19

We made posters that were like, bye Brie.

871

: 00:38:22

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

872

: 00:38:23

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Yeah.

873

: 00:38:25

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

874

: 00:38:26

I think it was hard.

875

: 00:38:26

I think it was, it was sad and it was

hard, but it was also nice that since

876

: 00:38:33

we were forced to like do FaceTime and

Zoom for everything anyways, like it

877

: 00:38:40

was a real, it like in that sense, our

like, friendship just like transitioned

878

: 00:38:44

into that, like, for a moment, like,

and, and kind of like catapulted, like

879

: 00:38:51

that like aspect of the friendship,

like needing to be virtual and like.

880

: 00:38:57

All of those things.

881

: 00:38:58

Like even if we, you know, like

even family friends that I had

882

: 00:39:02

in Portland, like we had to do

Zoom stuff with them too, right?

883

: 00:39:06

Like, even if we were neighbors or they

lived like 10 minutes away, like that was

884

: 00:39:10

just what our world was like at the time.

885

: 00:39:12

And so I think that that was, it

was normal for like maintaining

886

: 00:39:17

your, like friendships and your

relationships to like be virtual.

887

: 00:39:21

But it gave us like the, like

that's what we needed to like

888

: 00:39:29

continue where we are now.

889

: 00:39:30

Like, like we just needed to be

forced into that like, friendship.

890

: 00:39:35

'cause what we could have done is we,

we all could have just gone home and

891

: 00:39:37

then like never talked to each other.

892

: 00:39:40

Mm-hmm.

893

: 00:39:42

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

been really a bad situation.

894

: 00:39:43

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

895

: 00:39:46

But I think that it almost like

forced us to be like, oh, okay.

896

: 00:39:49

Yeah.

897

: 00:39:49

Like we could FaceTime, like we know

how to do this, we can get on Zoom.

898

: 00:39:52

We worked out, like we

worked out together.

899

: 00:39:54

Like we were, we did so many things.

900

: 00:39:58

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

That's so true.

901

: 00:39:59

Didn't we do like

902

: 00:40:00

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

about

903

: 00:40:00

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

We did like four classes together.

904

: 00:40:03

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

did like bar classes

905

: 00:40:04

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

That's

906

: 00:40:04

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Zoom.

907

: 00:40:05

Yeah.

908

: 00:40:05

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

909

: 00:40:06

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

910

: 00:40:06

I do think you're right, Lauren, that

like the culture of virtual meetings

911

: 00:40:11

that arose during COVID made it that

much more like prevalent or just

912

: 00:40:17

like top of mind to be like, oh, you

can just do this with your friends.

913

: 00:40:19

Like Skype was always around

when we were growing up, but

914

: 00:40:22

like, nobody Skyped, right?

915

: 00:40:24

Like nobody, like nobody got on

a, on a video call really, unless

916

: 00:40:28

it was like a really long distance

family member or something like that.

917

: 00:40:32

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah.

918

: 00:40:33

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

you're right.

919

: 00:40:33

The culture of COVID

made that more normal.

920

: 00:40:35

And so we just kind of

integrated that continuing on

921

: 00:40:38

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Yeah, that was, that wasn't like out of

922

: 00:40:40

the norm for us to be like, oh, let's just

get on a Zoom and like talk for hours.

923

: 00:40:44

Like, you know, like,

924

: 00:40:45

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: like

we were just hanging out on the couch.

925

: 00:40:47

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

exactly.

926

: 00:40:48

Exactly.

927

: 00:40:49

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: What

are some other ways you feel like we

928

: 00:40:52

stayed connected throughout the years?

929

: 00:40:55

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045: I

mean, I think this could be like, um, you

930

: 00:40:58

know, if we're going to, if we can dive

into more of like what happened when,

931

: 00:41:02

like Bri and I started PT school, like

then Bri and I moved, you were still in

932

: 00:41:08

Nebraska, but like, then it turned into

that whole like phase of our friendship

933

: 00:41:15

and I think that what happened was,

934

: 00:41:17

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Where did you move to?

935

: 00:41:18

Like what was the phase?

936

: 00:41:19

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045: so.

937

: 00:41:21

Bria and I both started PT

school in the summer of: 2021

938

: 00:41:26

She moved from Northern

California to Central Oregon.

939

: 00:41:29

I moved from Oregon to Nebraska.

940

: 00:41:32

So it's kind of a funny little

triangle between the three of us.

941

: 00:41:35

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah.

942

: 00:41:35

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Um, but I think that what happened during

943

: 00:41:39

grad school was, or when Bria and I were

in grad school, was sort of our like

944

: 00:41:44

individual friendships, like between the

three of us, like started to flourish

945

: 00:41:49

a little bit more, just like solely

based on like when Bria and i's like.

946

: 00:41:54

Spring breaks were, or like Easter breaks

or Christmas breaks and like how those

947

: 00:42:00

things would overlap or not overlap.

948

: 00:42:03

Like it was really easy for me to like

drive down to see Brie when I would

949

: 00:42:07

go home for a month at Christmas.

950

: 00:42:10

But it was also really easy for

me to see Mari because she lived

951

: 00:42:14

45 minutes away when I was in

Omaha and she was in Lincoln.

952

: 00:42:17

We were both super busy and like, we saw

each other a few times, but it wasn't

953

: 00:42:21

like what I think we thought it would be.

954

: 00:42:24

But, but it was, and

so it became that way.

955

: 00:42:27

Or there was like a trip that

like our summer breaks never,

956

: 00:42:32

never lined up between Bria and I.

957

: 00:42:33

But I know like she took a trip to Denver,

like to see you and Trey and like you

958

: 00:42:39

went to Bend and like saw her and Timmy

like this sort of started our like,

959

: 00:42:45

okay, well we might just have to be okay

with like only two of us being there.

960

: 00:42:50

Like.

961

: 00:42:51

We, and it's not that we never

put effort into being like, okay,

962

: 00:42:55

could all three of us be there?

963

: 00:42:56

Like, it was always like always sent like

in the group chat, like, Hey, I'm gonna be

964

: 00:43:00

in Portland, like, you know, these weeks.

965

: 00:43:03

Like, Mari, could you meet us in Bend?

966

: 00:43:04

Like, that was always like there,

967

: 00:43:07

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Mm-hmm.

968

: 00:43:08

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

it was challenging.

969

: 00:43:10

Like, and this was probably I think

where our, like friendship had the

970

: 00:43:15

most like challenges and like, just

things that had happened that we

971

: 00:43:24

hadn't, hadn't cross, like bridges

that we had never crossed before.

972

: 00:43:27

Um,

973

: 00:43:27

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

974

: 00:43:29

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

but I think that it was like, we

975

: 00:43:31

ha I've always felt like, like our

individual friendships with each

976

: 00:43:36

other are like just as beautiful as

our friendship, like the three of us.

977

: 00:43:41

And like, there's never been like a

comparison like between those things.

978

: 00:43:47

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045: Yeah,

and I think that, I mean, you just bring

979

: 00:43:49

up the point of just like traveling to

each other, that was a big part of how

980

: 00:43:53

we kept up with each other long distance.

981

: 00:43:55

And we had conversations where we

realized like, okay, like we don't

982

: 00:43:59

have anything on the calendar and so

we're not gonna see each other unless

983

: 00:44:01

we put something on the calendar.

984

: 00:44:03

And knowing that we had to put something

on the calendar and there was always gonna

985

: 00:44:06

be sacrifices made on every party, right?

986

: 00:44:09

Whether it was time or finances

or how far somebody was traveling

987

: 00:44:14

or driving hours or whatever.

988

: 00:44:15

And we all knew, like as we rotate

where we meet up and where we have the

989

: 00:44:19

next girls trip or who can come this

time or who can't, there's always like

990

: 00:44:23

sacrifices that had to be made, but

we were willing and committed to those

991

: 00:44:27

sacrifices so that we could see each other

992

: 00:44:29

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Mm-hmm.

993

: 00:44:30

mari-wagner_2_06-29-2025_152045:

least once a year.

994

: 00:44:31

Um, and hopefully more than that, like

here and there, if we were able to.

995

: 00:44:35

squadcaster-fafd_2_06-29-2025_152045:

Mm-hmm.

996

: 00:44:37

squadcaster-j13j_2_06-29-2025_142045:

Um, something I think too that's really

997

: 00:44:40

unique about our friendship that I

was just thinking about while you guys

998

: 00:44:42

were talking is like how we celebrate

different things for each other.

999

: 00:44:48

Like it's not just birthdays, even though

over nine years straight, we've always

: 1000

00:44:51,110 --> 00:44:53,450

like bought each other birthday presents,

: 1001

00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:54,040

-: 2025

Okay.

: 1002

00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,725

But another thing, another thing we do

on birthdays is spam the group chat.

: 1003

00:44:58,115 --> 00:45:03,425

Like, yeah, like this is a good thing

that everybody should do is like just spam

: 1004

00:45:03,425 --> 00:45:05,915

your group chat with some good memories.

: 1005

00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:06,890

-: 2025

: 1006

00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:08,960

-: 2025

you know, like when Mari started the

: 1007

00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,040

podcast, like, I think we sent her cookies

and like when Lauren moved to Montana,

: 1008

00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,210

we sent her like a, you know, like a

package to move to Montana or like, I

: 1009

00:45:17,210 --> 00:45:21,260

remember when I moved to Oregon for PT

school, like the first package I got

: 1010

00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:25,100

was like a, a housewarming thing with

like all my favorite snacks from Trader

: 1011

00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:27,115

Joe's and different notes from you guys.

: 1012

00:45:27,415 --> 00:45:27,835

-: 2025

: 1013

00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,620

-: 2025

Um, just like different,

: 1014

00:45:30,860 --> 00:45:32,090

different things like that.

: 1015

00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,760

Um, you know, with different struggles.

: 1016

00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,900

we've sent meals home or,

you know, stuff like that.

: 1017

00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:44,360

Um, and, and even recognizing like

when one of us lost a grandparent, like

: 1018

00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,280

we would send flowers or something,

you know, just meaningful things.

: 1019

00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,070

Like, Hey, I can't be there

with you in person, but I love

: 1020

00:45:52,070 --> 00:45:53,210

you and I'm thinking of you.

: 1021

00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:57,350

And it's just that small gesture

that I think has been so fun.

: 1022

00:45:57,410 --> 00:45:57,890

You know?

: 1023

00:45:58,250 --> 00:46:02,090

Um, or when me and Lauren graduated PT

school, like, we both, you know, you

: 1024

00:46:02,090 --> 00:46:04,640

guys got me a gift, we got Lauren a gift.

: 1025

00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:10,340

Um, just celebrating different milestones

outside of it just being our birthdays

: 1026

00:46:10,340 --> 00:46:14,480

I think is really, I don't know, like,

: 1027

00:46:14,510 --> 00:46:14,990

-: 2025

Supportive.

: 1028

00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:16,460

-: 2025

it, it is so important.

: 1029

00:46:16,460 --> 00:46:16,910

Yeah.

: 1030

00:46:17,450 --> 00:46:18,530

-: 2025

And supportive.

: 1031

00:46:18,585 --> 00:46:18,860

Yeah.

: 1032

00:46:19,175 --> 00:46:19,460

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1033

00:46:19,460 --> 00:46:20,120

And supportive.

: 1034

00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:22,160

-: 2025

Yeah, like I think it just, like, it

: 1035

00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,120

takes like that love into action and

I think it's really easy to send a

: 1036

00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,110

congratulations text or to be like,

oh, I'm so proud of you for doing this.

: 1037

00:46:30,110 --> 00:46:32,810

But like, I remember when I launched

the podcast and then I saw on my

: 1038

00:46:32,810 --> 00:46:36,920

doorstep, like these box of cookies

after a literal all nighter.

: 1039

00:46:37,790 --> 00:46:42,650

I kid you not, we were working in

our bed and our 6:00 AM alarm went

: 1040

00:46:42,650 --> 00:46:47,480

off and we looked at each other and

we were like, what just happened?

: 1041

00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,080

Tre and I?

: 1042

00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,180

And so just like seeing that like you

guys recognized like how big of an

: 1043

00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:57,500

accomplishment that was for us, or how

much work we had put in, or that we

: 1044

00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:02,120

had thought of, you know, sending you

a care package when you moved to, um,

: 1045

00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,810

Oregon or yeah, like you said, like

graduations, like all the other, all the

: 1046

00:47:05,810 --> 00:47:07,700

different like milestones that we've hit.

: 1047

00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:12,350

Being each being there for each other and

showing up in small gestures kind of like

: 1048

00:47:12,350 --> 00:47:15,350

really takes that love into action and

shows, just like you said, like I can't

: 1049

00:47:15,350 --> 00:47:18,770

be there with you, but like I'm there

with you as much as I can be right now.

: 1050

00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,200

-: 2025

Yeah, because we, we know that if we

: 1051

00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,960

were in the same place, like, you know,

if, if you, if you had launched the

: 1052

00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,280

podcast and Bria and I lived like 30

minutes away, like we would've had a

: 1053

00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,900

dinner, like we would've had a party.

: 1054

00:47:33,140 --> 00:47:36,200

Like we would've gone out

like for a celebration, right?

: 1055

00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:36,830

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: 1056

00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:38,240

-: 2025

we know that if we were in the

: 1057

00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:40,940

same place, like those things

would be happening in person.

: 1058

00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,150

And so it's like, I mean, we

live in a world now where like.

: 1059

00:47:44,885 --> 00:47:49,685

It's so easy to just like DoorDash

things, like I've got, like, I'm this

: 1060

00:47:49,685 --> 00:47:52,175

door, like we just, DoorDash Maori stuff.

: 1061

00:47:52,175 --> 00:47:54,125

I just door dashed brie stuff.

: 1062

00:47:54,125 --> 00:47:55,895

Like, it just is a thing.

: 1063

00:47:55,895 --> 00:47:56,345

Like

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-: 2025

yeah.

: 1065

00:47:57,425 --> 00:47:59,075

-: 2025

think, you think like the country music

: 1066

00:47:59,075 --> 00:48:03,485

and the, the hiking and all this stuff,

like let's add DoorDash to that like.

: 1067

00:48:04,635 --> 00:48:08,435

-: 2025

DoorDash, please I'm gonna reach out.

: 1068

00:48:10,315 --> 00:48:11,235

Honestly, I'm gonna try.

: 1069

00:48:12,855 --> 00:48:13,775

-: 2025

Honestly, though, like it

: 1070

00:48:13,775 --> 00:48:15,055

could be so small last week.

: 1071

00:48:15,860 --> 00:48:20,060

I hit 20 weeks of pregnancy and

all I wanted was the half-baked,

: 1072

00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:21,920

uh, Ben and Jerry's ice cream.

: 1073

00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,770

And I had just seen Lauren,

'cause she was in Oregon.

: 1074

00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:27,710

And I told her, I was like,

tonight I'm gonna go buy it.

: 1075

00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,370

And we live, me and my husband

live in such a small town and like

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00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:31,720

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: 1077

00:48:31,790 --> 00:48:32,870

-: 2025

store just sucks.

: 1078

00:48:33,290 --> 00:48:36,350

And they had like every flavor of

Ben and Jerry's except that one.

: 1079

00:48:36,350 --> 00:48:37,310

And I like, went home.

: 1080

00:48:37,310 --> 00:48:39,740

I was like, I'm, so, I texted

her, I was like, I'm so defeated.

: 1081

00:48:40,070 --> 00:48:40,820

I couldn't find it.

: 1082

00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:45,500

Literally five minutes later

DoorDash me half-baked.

: 1083

00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,930

Ben and Jerry's, I don't even

know where she got it from.

: 1084

00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,380

Probably the grocery store didn't

go to, but like, it could be so

: 1085

00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:54,380

small, you know, it doesn't have

to be like this big gesture, but

: 1086

00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,000

that like meant so much to me.

: 1087

00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,880

Like it was such a silly thing, but

I was like, I wanna celebrate this

: 1088

00:48:59,540 --> 00:48:59,830

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: 1089

00:49:00,620 --> 00:49:02,450

-: 2025

and yeah, like that meant so much.

: 1090

00:49:02,450 --> 00:49:02,840

So.

: 1091

00:49:03,170 --> 00:49:05,810

Um, and like, I think it can feel

overwhelming to be like, oh, I have

: 1092

00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:06,920

to put this whole thing together.

: 1093

00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,440

It's like, no, really, it's

just the gesture that means so

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: 1095

00:49:10,595 --> 00:49:10,895

Mm-hmm.

: 1096

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-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1097

00:49:11,105 --> 00:49:13,895

Like we hadn't, we had

Mari's Bridal shower on Zoom.

: 1098

00:49:15,230 --> 00:49:16,550

-: 2025

Back to the COVID days.

: 1099

00:49:16,850 --> 00:49:17,435

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1100

00:49:17,495 --> 00:49:21,965

But like, we could have not

like you, like, like, and we

: 1101

00:49:21,965 --> 00:49:24,005

were just, we we did that.

: 1102

00:49:24,095 --> 00:49:25,715

We, and we, it was good

: 1103

00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:26,360

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: 1104

00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:26,855

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: 1105

00:49:27,095 --> 00:49:29,540

We had some fun games and

like everybody was there.

: 1106

00:49:29,540 --> 00:49:31,145

Weren't you on like vacation or something?

: 1107

00:49:31,145 --> 00:49:32,915

Or like, the Waggner were on vacation.

: 1108

00:49:32,975 --> 00:49:33,305

Yeah,

: 1109

00:49:33,945 --> 00:49:34,505

-: 2025

I was Mexico.

: 1110

00:49:34,945 --> 00:49:36,350

I mean, go figure.

: 1111

00:49:36,755 --> 00:49:38,225

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I remember that so vividly.

: 1112

00:49:38,225 --> 00:49:39,965

Like the, the ocean, like in the

: 1113

00:49:42,595 --> 00:49:44,270

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I think the last thing too

: 1114

00:49:44,330 --> 00:49:46,060

is sending prayer requests.

: 1115

00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:46,780

-: 2025

mm-hmm.

: 1116

00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:49,610

-: 2025

often and we're vulnerable when we send

: 1117

00:49:49,610 --> 00:49:54,320

it, and we know that we can count on

each other to actually pray for us and to

: 1118

00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,370

allow there to be a space of just like,

Hey, having a super hard time right now.

: 1119

00:49:58,370 --> 00:50:01,130

Like, please, you know, pray

for these specific intentions.

: 1120

00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:02,720

We're really hoping for this.

: 1121

00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,940

Like, here's exactly what to pray for.

: 1122

00:50:04,940 --> 00:50:07,235

And so inviting each

other into kind of like.

: 1123

00:50:08,165 --> 00:50:11,645

That more personal journey that we're

on, and maybe we don't have time

: 1124

00:50:11,645 --> 00:50:14,495

for like a full hour like catch up

call for you to like know exactly

: 1125

00:50:14,495 --> 00:50:16,145

what I need prayers for right now.

: 1126

00:50:16,295 --> 00:50:20,195

But we know that we can send a

quick prayer request into the group

: 1127

00:50:20,225 --> 00:50:23,525

and that gonna pray for each other

right then and there, or like later

: 1128

00:50:23,525 --> 00:50:24,755

that day or something like that.

: 1129

00:50:24,755 --> 00:50:27,095

And that's something that I

think is also really special.

: 1130

00:50:27,455 --> 00:50:28,145

-: 2025

we're really, I think

: 1131

00:50:28,145 --> 00:50:29,135

we're really good at that.

: 1132

00:50:29,545 --> 00:50:29,965

-: 2025

Mm-hmm.

: 1133

00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,015

-: 2025

we're really good at being vulnerable,

: 1134

00:50:32,015 --> 00:50:36,965

but then we're also really good at being

like account like accountability, like for

: 1135

00:50:36,965 --> 00:50:40,505

each other and, and like trust, like that.

: 1136

00:50:40,505 --> 00:50:45,425

We trust that it's going to happen from

the other people, you know, the others do.

: 1137

00:50:45,635 --> 00:50:46,025

Yeah.

: 1138

00:50:47,435 --> 00:50:49,325

-: 2025

about, let's talk about supporting

: 1139

00:50:49,325 --> 00:50:53,105

each other as we've like entered

different vocations in our life.

: 1140

00:50:53,165 --> 00:50:56,555

It's incredible that like we have

been friends through nine years

: 1141

00:50:56,585 --> 00:51:00,185

'cause there has been so many

changes through the last nine years.

: 1142

00:51:00,245 --> 00:51:06,005

So to give a recap, we literally went

from all three of us being single to

: 1143

00:51:06,005 --> 00:51:11,345

then me getting engaged and married

and then Brie getting engaged and

: 1144

00:51:11,345 --> 00:51:15,725

married and Lauren recently entering

into a relationship in the past year.

: 1145

00:51:16,055 --> 00:51:18,365

And then Brie becoming a mom.

: 1146

00:51:18,575 --> 00:51:22,445

And so like we've kind of hit like

all these stages, all these stages

: 1147

00:51:22,445 --> 00:51:26,705

from like singleness, engagements,

marriage, motherhood, um, and all been

: 1148

00:51:26,705 --> 00:51:28,677

in those seasons at different times.

: 1149

00:51:29,675 --> 00:51:33,005

have we like navigated through

those different seasons?

: 1150

00:51:33,005 --> 00:51:35,675

Been there for each other,

walked with each other in it.

: 1151

00:51:36,035 --> 00:51:38,345

Um, and then we can also.

: 1152

00:51:38,780 --> 00:51:42,650

I also like wanna speak to, if you

guys wanna do it while you share all

: 1153

00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:44,030

this stuff right now, that's fine.

: 1154

00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:47,090

Or we can talk about it later, like

speak to comparison in all that.

: 1155

00:51:47,090 --> 00:51:50,600

Because as women, like, we're very

susceptible to falling into comparison

: 1156

00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,690

and looking, you know, to our left

and our right and being like, oh, like

: 1157

00:51:53,690 --> 00:51:57,080

she has this and I don't, or like, you

know, she got married before me, or

: 1158

00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,260

like, you know, gosh, I'd wanna be a

mom right now and she gets to be a mom.

: 1159

00:52:00,260 --> 00:52:02,000

Or like, oh, I'm still single.

: 1160

00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,230

Like, what is that?

: 1161

00:52:03,350 --> 00:52:05,960

What has that journey been

like and how have we kind of

: 1162

00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,920

navigated through all that?

: 1163

00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:13,040

-: 2025

Yeah, I think, um, like from Mar's

: 1164

00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:18,380

transition, you know, me and Lauren

couldn't really speak to marriage at all.

: 1165

00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,450

'cause you got married

first out of all of us.

: 1166

00:52:20,510 --> 00:52:23,840

Um, and you had other friends that

like helped you through that stage.

: 1167

00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,550

But kind of going back to just like

being there, being excited, praying

: 1168

00:52:28,550 --> 00:52:31,730

for them, celebrating with them,

knowing that you can't fulfill like.

: 1169

00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:36,500

I can't help you with all these

marriage things, um, but I'm still

: 1170

00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:38,197

gonna be there and celebrate you guys.

: 1171

00:52:38,420 --> 00:52:40,490

Um, that was really fun.

: 1172

00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:44,300

And then, I mean, I can speak to my

transition to being engaged and married.

: 1173

00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:50,270

Mari was like my one go-to friend that

helped me so much, that transition.

: 1174

00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:53,660

'cause there's so much that happens

in engagement and planning a wedding,

: 1175

00:52:53,690 --> 00:52:57,740

and sure there's girls out there

listening that can totally relate.

: 1176

00:52:57,740 --> 00:53:01,250

Right now, maybe if you're in that

season, it can be super overwhelming.

: 1177

00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:03,170

Like it's really exciting times.

: 1178

00:53:03,170 --> 00:53:03,560

But,

: 1179

00:53:03,745 --> 00:53:04,165

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: 1180

00:53:04,850 --> 00:53:06,050

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You know, and, and especially when

: 1181

00:53:06,050 --> 00:53:09,620

you're a faith, you're gonna be a

faith-filled marriage and, and have

: 1182

00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:12,320

that sacrament, like, there's always

these spiritual attacks that come in

: 1183

00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,810

between and, um, different struggles.

: 1184

00:53:14,810 --> 00:53:20,570

And so having that friend who's already

walked through it is so important.

: 1185

00:53:20,570 --> 00:53:21,020

Like.

: 1186

00:53:21,755 --> 00:53:22,295

I don't know.

: 1187

00:53:22,295 --> 00:53:26,195

Mari and I probably talked on the

phone like once a week for like

: 1188

00:53:26,195 --> 00:53:30,425

an hour or two, like as I was

getting closer to getting married.

: 1189

00:53:30,425 --> 00:53:30,755

Just

: 1190

00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:31,340

-: 2025

: 1191

00:53:31,505 --> 00:53:32,585

-: 2025

like helping with wedding planning,

: 1192

00:53:32,585 --> 00:53:36,455

but honestly helping like,

prepare myself for that and like,

: 1193

00:53:36,795 --> 00:53:37,085

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: 1194

00:53:37,385 --> 00:53:39,155

-: 2025

yeah, and, and like what kind of

: 1195

00:53:39,335 --> 00:53:45,665

conversations to have with, with your

future spouse, um, how to navigate like

: 1196

00:53:45,665 --> 00:53:49,565

difficult things, you know, money in-laws,

all the, like, all these different

: 1197

00:53:49,565 --> 00:53:52,325

things that all of a sudden become

like at the forefront of your brain,

: 1198

00:53:52,595 --> 00:53:53,015

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: 1199

00:53:53,705 --> 00:53:54,125

-: 2025

On your finger.

: 1200

00:53:54,845 --> 00:53:59,675

Um, and that was just such a, she

was such a wealth of information,

: 1201

00:53:59,675 --> 00:54:00,905

like so patient with me.

: 1202

00:54:01,295 --> 00:54:02,165

Um, but even.

: 1203

00:54:03,065 --> 00:54:06,275

married now, it's, it's really

good to have somebody be like, you

: 1204

00:54:06,275 --> 00:54:09,485

know, we're never like talking bad

about our husbands or anything.

: 1205

00:54:09,485 --> 00:54:12,605

It's like, Hey, have you ever

encountered, you know, this issue or

: 1206

00:54:12,755 --> 00:54:13,175

-: 2025

: 1207

00:54:13,505 --> 00:54:15,485

-: 2025

and like, how have you gone about that?

: 1208

00:54:15,485 --> 00:54:19,115

And can you help me like be a good

wife and, and handle this well?

: 1209

00:54:19,175 --> 00:54:23,195

Um, and that has been so

awesome, like, just having a

: 1210

00:54:23,195 --> 00:54:25,370

friend who's helped with that.

: 1211

00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:26,090

-: 2025

: 1212

00:54:26,165 --> 00:54:28,025

-: 2025

then on the, the like flip side of

: 1213

00:54:28,025 --> 00:54:31,535

it all, like, uh, you know, Lauren

just came into a relationship over

: 1214

00:54:31,535 --> 00:54:35,765

the past year, but me and Mari being

married, it might seem like it's hard

: 1215

00:54:35,765 --> 00:54:39,305

for us to relate to her, but like we

also both were single at one point.

: 1216

00:54:39,665 --> 00:54:43,235

Um, and so realizing, like, remembering

what that struggle was like, like

: 1217

00:54:43,235 --> 00:54:44,840

you really wanna find your person

: 1218

00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:45,560

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: 1219

00:54:46,505 --> 00:54:48,185

-: 2025

you know, now you're happily married,

: 1220

00:54:48,485 --> 00:54:49,805

but one of your best friends isn't.

: 1221

00:54:49,805 --> 00:54:52,535

And so I just remember like

multiple times Lauren coming to

: 1222

00:54:52,535 --> 00:54:55,240

visit and just like having those

hard conversations about like, I.

: 1223

00:54:56,030 --> 00:54:57,320

I know this is so hard for you.

: 1224

00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,550

Like let's just talk about it.

: 1225

00:54:58,550 --> 00:54:59,030

You know, it's

: 1226

00:54:59,300 --> 00:54:59,590

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: 1227

00:54:59,660 --> 00:55:01,940

-: 2025

sad or frustrated or all those things.

: 1228

00:55:01,940 --> 00:55:06,920

And, um, just like really being

there for her because I was also

: 1229

00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,920

there like a year prior, you know?

: 1230

00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:09,510

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: 1231

00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,550

-: 2025

so just always remembering that maybe

: 1232

00:55:13,550 --> 00:55:17,150

you haven't been in that season of life,

but you can still celebrate in that like

: 1233

00:55:17,150 --> 00:55:20,270

I was with MA getting married or you,

you have been in that season of life,

: 1234

00:55:20,270 --> 00:55:22,820

but now it's been a year, two years,

three years since you've been single.

: 1235

00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:26,210

But you can still relate and still

help that person and give them hope

: 1236

00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:29,570

and faith and, and encourage them to

wait for the right person and keep

: 1237

00:55:29,570 --> 00:55:31,040

their values and stuff like that.

: 1238

00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:31,730

-: 2025

: 1239

00:55:32,060 --> 00:55:33,350

-: 2025

I guess like that's kind of

: 1240

00:55:33,350 --> 00:55:35,630

how it went for me both ends.

: 1241

00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:37,430

Um, yeah.

: 1242

00:55:39,790 --> 00:55:40,240

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1243

00:55:40,750 --> 00:55:43,150

Gosh, that was really well said, Bre.

: 1244

00:55:43,150 --> 00:55:43,750

Nice job.

: 1245

00:55:45,410 --> 00:55:45,740

-: 2025

: 1246

00:55:46,930 --> 00:55:47,410

-: 2025

Uh, yes.

: 1247

00:55:48,580 --> 00:55:53,050

Uh, I'll say that, uh, you know, one

of my best friends from PT school.

: 1248

00:55:54,035 --> 00:55:55,985

And so is is also married.

: 1249

00:55:56,015 --> 00:56:02,525

So by the time I was 25, uh, I mean, and I

don't have like a huge friend group, like

: 1250

00:56:02,525 --> 00:56:04,835

I, I keep it pretty, pretty close knit.

: 1251

00:56:04,835 --> 00:56:09,275

You know, there's maybe like five people

that I could see being like my bridesmaids

: 1252

00:56:09,275 --> 00:56:12,635

and like those are people that, that like

I would consider are my best friends.

: 1253

00:56:12,635 --> 00:56:16,085

And like by the time I was

25, 3 of them were married

: 1254

00:56:18,215 --> 00:56:19,955

and I was like, okay.

: 1255

00:56:20,015 --> 00:56:23,105

Um, I just, I didn't see this in my life.

: 1256

00:56:23,105 --> 00:56:24,605

Like, I don't know why.

: 1257

00:56:24,605 --> 00:56:26,765

Like, I, I didn't, I didn't see that.

: 1258

00:56:26,795 --> 00:56:34,655

Um, but the hardest time in my life,

or not in my life, but in, in this

: 1259

00:56:34,685 --> 00:56:42,695

like our seasons together was during

PT school where Brie and I were on the

: 1260

00:56:42,695 --> 00:56:45,845

same path from a career standpoint.

: 1261

00:56:46,685 --> 00:56:51,755

And so Mari understood that we

were on that same path, but then

: 1262

00:56:51,755 --> 00:56:55,535

Brie met Timmy and was engaged.

: 1263

00:56:55,535 --> 00:56:57,185

And then you were married.

: 1264

00:56:57,185 --> 00:56:58,445

You got married in PT school.

: 1265

00:56:58,475 --> 00:56:58,835

Yeah.

: 1266

00:56:59,315 --> 00:56:59,675

Yeah.

: 1267

00:56:59,675 --> 00:57:05,375

Like was in, was discerning engagement

and discerning marriage and all of those

: 1268

00:57:05,375 --> 00:57:11,465

things happened like while we were in PT

school, but that was not happening to me.

: 1269

00:57:11,795 --> 00:57:12,590

And so

: 1270

00:57:12,890 --> 00:57:14,060

-: 2025

journey she was going on.

: 1271

00:57:14,165 --> 00:57:16,655

-: 2025

yeah, so it was like we were both, we were

: 1272

00:57:16,655 --> 00:57:21,185

both in PT school, but all of a sudden,

like her discernment became being a wife.

: 1273

00:57:21,185 --> 00:57:23,335

And my discernment stayed

: 1274

00:57:23,635 --> 00:57:24,055

-: 2025

: 1275

00:57:24,355 --> 00:57:25,265

-: 2025

being a pt

: 1276

00:57:25,635 --> 00:57:26,055

-: 2025

: 1277

00:57:26,135 --> 00:57:28,565

-: 2025

like I remember just like.

: 1278

00:57:29,210 --> 00:57:32,990

Having conversations like we would

have, like I remember having FaceTimes,

: 1279

00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:36,860

like in PT school with you guys, and

like feeling like I had to be like, no,

: 1280

00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:38,870

like this is what I'm doing right now.

: 1281

00:57:39,170 --> 00:57:43,070

Like, this is what my heart

is set on, is like my career.

: 1282

00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:47,480

And like, it wasn't that you guys

were like disappointed or like getting

: 1283

00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:53,240

on me for things, but it was like

you knew that I always, I always

: 1284

00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,680

have and always will have a longing

to be a wife and to be a mother.

: 1285

00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,630

And you both know that about me.

: 1286

00:58:00,050 --> 00:58:03,680

And so you're like, well then why

aren't you doing something about it?

: 1287

00:58:03,740 --> 00:58:06,290

Like, or like, like what

are you doing about it?

: 1288

00:58:06,350 --> 00:58:12,440

Like if you want that, like you need to be

putting in some sort of effort into that

: 1289

00:58:12,740 --> 00:58:17,840

like praying about it, like going out and

meeting people, like being open to it.

: 1290

00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,545

Like I, I just like was

not in that space at all

: 1291

00:58:21,845 --> 00:58:22,185

-: 2025

Right, right.

: 1292

00:58:22,190 --> 00:58:25,340

-: 2025

my like whole world surrounded like

: 1293

00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,510

PT school, which like, now that I

like look back on it was so unhealthy.

: 1294

00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:34,340

Like even from like a secular standpoint,

like was just like not good, you know?

: 1295

00:58:34,850 --> 00:58:39,500

And so I just feel like that was, that

was like the most challenging part

: 1296

00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:45,410

where then I felt like, like, I don't

know that I ever compared, but I don't

: 1297

00:58:45,410 --> 00:58:47,090

like, in like full vulnerability.

: 1298

00:58:47,090 --> 00:58:52,910

Like I don't know that I was as supportive

like to you two in your seasons because

: 1299

00:58:52,910 --> 00:59:04,550

I was just like, like, and so, um, but

then I remember like when my friend from

: 1300

00:59:04,550 --> 00:59:09,590

PT school got engaged, I remember you

texting me Mari and being like, whoa,

: 1301

00:59:09,590 --> 00:59:12,410

like Bria and I are already married.

: 1302

00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:14,000

Or Brie was about to get married.

: 1303

00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,100

She was like two months

out from getting married.

: 1304

00:59:16,370 --> 00:59:17,480

You were already married.

: 1305

00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,390

And then, then my friend from

DT school was gonna be getting

: 1306

00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:21,740

married like that next summer.

: 1307

00:59:21,740 --> 00:59:23,360

And you were like, whoa, like.

: 1308

00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:24,890

That's a lot.

: 1309

00:59:25,010 --> 00:59:27,470

And I'm, I was in all of the weddings too.

: 1310

00:59:27,470 --> 00:59:31,850

Like I, I wasn't just a guest, like I

was, I was very heavily involved, like

: 1311

00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,710

in y'all's wedding planning and, and like

everything that went along that in your

: 1312

00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:40,730

relationships and like, that's, that's who

should be in your wedding group, right?

: 1313

00:59:40,730 --> 00:59:44,150

Like, or the people that are like

with you in the relationship, like,

: 1314

00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:45,620

you know, from a friend standpoint.

: 1315

00:59:46,340 --> 00:59:53,090

Um, and so, uh, I remember just

being like, that was like the first

: 1316

00:59:53,090 --> 00:59:57,230

time that I think I had like, really

sat with it and was like, whoa.

: 1317

00:59:57,230 --> 00:59:58,460

Like they,

: 1318

00:59:58,535 --> 00:59:58,715

-: 2025

: 1319

00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,850

-: 2025

like they have what I like desire,

: 1320

01:00:02,165 --> 01:00:02,585

-: 2025

: 1321

01:00:02,885 --> 01:00:05,150

-: 2025

like how do I get there?

: 1322

01:00:05,435 --> 01:00:05,945

-: 2025

: 1323

01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:06,890

-: 2025

: 1324

01:00:07,205 --> 01:00:08,855

-: 2025

I'm sure that was hard, you know, in

: 1325

01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:13,235

a sense to like sit there and be like,

wow, you know, especially if you didn't

: 1326

01:00:13,235 --> 01:00:17,645

expect it and you're like, now three of

my best friends are here and I want that.

: 1327

01:00:17,645 --> 01:00:18,245

And

: 1328

01:00:18,860 --> 01:00:19,190

-: 2025

yeah.

: 1329

01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,145

-: 2025

like what's, like, where's my path?

: 1330

01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,290

-: 2025

Yeah, but it was also like, there's always

: 1331

01:00:24,290 --> 01:00:29,630

so much like excitement and like joy and

celebration in weddings that like you

: 1332

01:00:29,630 --> 01:00:34,430

never even really think about it being

like an like a sad thing or that, like

: 1333

01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:38,720

something that you're like not happy about

because like why would, like, why would

: 1334

01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,070

you be, and it wasn't that I was like,

I had, I was having so much fun at your

: 1335

01:00:43,070 --> 01:00:47,990

weddings and celebrating and like hyping

you guys up and like all of those things.

: 1336

01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:52,550

But it was like, when I was asked

about it, it was like, oh man,

: 1337

01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,610

like this is like real, like what?

: 1338

01:00:55,610 --> 01:00:57,320

And like what do I do about it?

: 1339

01:00:57,650 --> 01:01:04,190

Um, and I think I always thought it was

like kind of funny to like pray about it.

: 1340

01:01:04,370 --> 01:01:04,910

I'm like, what?

: 1341

01:01:04,910 --> 01:01:09,200

Like, I remember like texting

both of you and being like, how

: 1342

01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,330

do I even like say this in prayer?

: 1343

01:01:11,660 --> 01:01:14,090

Like, what am I supposed to be asking?

: 1344

01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,720

Or like, you know, like asking for in

prayer or, or like saying in prayer

: 1345

01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:23,960

and, and, and then yeah, like, it

just, you know, you always say like,

: 1346

01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,300

it comes when you like least expected.

: 1347

01:01:26,300 --> 01:01:32,570

And like, I, I did the dating apps, like

I was in the like, cyclical pattern.

: 1348

01:01:32,570 --> 01:01:38,570

And we talked about this too, like

the, the craziness behind being on

: 1349

01:01:38,570 --> 01:01:42,200

a dating app like that I think could

also be a whole nother podcast episode.

: 1350

01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,800

Like, we've come up with like three

other episode topics for you, like in

: 1351

01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,420

this hour that we've been on the phone.

: 1352

01:01:47,420 --> 01:01:53,360

Like, it's just the thought of like,

like being on these apps, like swiping

: 1353

01:01:53,450 --> 01:01:55,340

like the action of like swiping.

: 1354

01:01:55,370 --> 01:01:59,840

And then when you match with somebody,

let's say you, it doesn't work out.

: 1355

01:02:00,260 --> 01:02:04,430

Then that night, the next day,

the next week, you are right

: 1356

01:02:04,430 --> 01:02:08,400

back in to like swiping and

like you, and you don't like s.

: 1357

01:02:09,005 --> 01:02:13,385

Like fully, like get over, like do

you even get over it or like you just,

: 1358

01:02:13,415 --> 01:02:13,535

-: 2025

: 1359

01:02:14,045 --> 01:02:14,285

-: 2025

yeah.

: 1360

01:02:14,285 --> 01:02:18,065

Or like, do you just long for like

getting back out there because

: 1361

01:02:18,065 --> 01:02:19,630

you like, want something so badly

: 1362

01:02:19,930 --> 01:02:20,350

-: 2025

: 1363

01:02:21,065 --> 01:02:23,435

-: 2025

and so Yeah.

: 1364

01:02:23,435 --> 01:02:28,385

It's just like, it was such an

interesting time and, and I like look

: 1365

01:02:28,385 --> 01:02:30,245

back on it now and I'm like, whoa.

: 1366

01:02:30,245 --> 01:02:37,205

Like, but I, but I grew so much during

that time too and I'd like knew that

: 1367

01:02:37,205 --> 01:02:41,795

once I got, like, once I got into a

relationship, I knew that I like felt

: 1368

01:02:41,795 --> 01:02:49,295

ready to like be in one because I like

had so much of that space to like grow.

: 1369

01:02:49,405 --> 01:02:49,825

-: 2025

: 1370

01:02:50,070 --> 01:02:52,835

-: 2025

To like recognize what I wanted, what

: 1371

01:02:52,835 --> 01:02:58,595

I didn't want, what everyone around

me had, like those sorts of things.

: 1372

01:02:58,745 --> 01:02:59,285

So.

: 1373

01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,270

-: 2025

Thank you for sharing.

: 1374

01:03:02,270 --> 01:03:05,240

So honestly, I think that a lot

of women probably relate to where

: 1375

01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,000

you're at, and I know that I get

messages about that all the time.

: 1376

01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,590

Like, can you speak more to the girl

who's like in her single years, like

: 1377

01:03:12,590 --> 01:03:16,190

waiting for the guy to come around or

waiting for a relationship to like finally

: 1378

01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:19,790

start discerning marriage or, you know,

figuring out if this is the one or not.

: 1379

01:03:19,790 --> 01:03:22,460

And I think that like a lot of the

emotions that you spoke to is probably

: 1380

01:03:22,460 --> 01:03:24,620

what a lot of women experience.

: 1381

01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:28,820

And in a friend group, like we said,

like it's like it, it's hard not to

: 1382

01:03:28,820 --> 01:03:31,520

fall into comparison sometimes and be

like, gosh, like they have what I want,

: 1383

01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,815

like God, like when is it my turn?

: 1384

01:03:33,115 --> 01:03:33,535

-: 2025

Mm-hmm.

: 1385

01:03:33,835 --> 01:03:35,030

-: 2025

when am when I, what am I supposed

: 1386

01:03:35,030 --> 01:03:36,590

to like, do what they're doing too?

: 1387

01:03:36,590 --> 01:03:39,725

And like, we all wanna like

move into these stages together.

: 1388

01:03:39,770 --> 01:03:39,950

And I

: 1389

01:03:40,025 --> 01:03:40,315

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1390

01:03:40,730 --> 01:03:42,890

-: 2025

just like a part of life is that like

: 1391

01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:44,360

you just are in different stages of

: 1392

01:03:44,615 --> 01:03:45,035

-: 2025

Mm-hmm.

: 1393

01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,310

-: 2025

at different points.

: 1394

01:03:46,310 --> 01:03:49,280

And that's been a growing

transition for all of us.

: 1395

01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,770

I think like in college, like

we're all kind of in the same.

: 1396

01:03:52,355 --> 01:03:56,075

Kind of like spaces, but then

near ending of college, when I got

: 1397

01:03:56,075 --> 01:03:59,705

engaged and got married, I'll speak

to my experience a little bit too.

: 1398

01:03:59,825 --> 01:04:03,185

And I remember being like, dang, like

this isn't like something I can like fully

: 1399

01:04:03,185 --> 01:04:04,775

go through with like my best friends.

: 1400

01:04:04,775 --> 01:04:08,075

Like they're there for me as much as

like they know how, but like they have

: 1401

01:04:08,075 --> 01:04:13,055

no idea the things that I'm actually

needing to discern for the future.

: 1402

01:04:13,055 --> 01:04:17,735

And like the, the reasons why we're making

these decisions and looking to like,

: 1403

01:04:17,885 --> 01:04:21,695

yeah, actually start our life together

as a married couple, like straight outta

: 1404

01:04:21,695 --> 01:04:25,475

college, um, is just not an experience

that I was able to share with you guys.

: 1405

01:04:25,475 --> 01:04:27,935

So I did have to like find

people that were kind of in

: 1406

01:04:27,935 --> 01:04:29,525

that same season to support me.

: 1407

01:04:29,855 --> 01:04:34,145

However, I still felt like you guys

were still able to be like celebratory

: 1408

01:04:34,145 --> 01:04:37,835

and like, show me your love along

the way and be excited for me.

: 1409

01:04:38,105 --> 01:04:40,445

And so that just shows like we

can still be with each other

: 1410

01:04:40,445 --> 01:04:42,154

in these seasons of transition.

: 1411

01:04:42,875 --> 01:04:45,755

Even though we're not in

the same exact season.

: 1412

01:04:45,815 --> 01:04:50,165

Um, and then most recently,

like Brie, like becoming a mom.

: 1413

01:04:50,165 --> 01:04:53,285

And you know, I like people listening

probably already know that like we've

: 1414

01:04:53,285 --> 01:04:57,935

been trying for a baby for a few years now

and we're super desirous to be parents.

: 1415

01:04:57,935 --> 01:05:01,415

And so that was another transition

like that we navigated as you

: 1416

01:05:01,415 --> 01:05:05,015

moved into motherhood and you

knew how much I longed for it.

: 1417

01:05:05,015 --> 01:05:09,605

And we had some conversations, you know,

when you started trying and like, when

: 1418

01:05:09,785 --> 01:05:12,335

you were a couple months into trying

and we were like, okay, like this day

: 1419

01:05:12,335 --> 01:05:16,415

is gonna come and like, you know, I

want you to know like, I love you.

: 1420

01:05:16,415 --> 01:05:17,135

I'm here for you.

: 1421

01:05:17,135 --> 01:05:19,115

Like, just like, I'm

gonna be excited for you.

: 1422

01:05:19,115 --> 01:05:20,075

I'm gonna be with you.

: 1423

01:05:20,075 --> 01:05:22,595

And there's, there's still gonna be

like that sorrow that's like held

: 1424

01:05:22,595 --> 01:05:27,065

for like not being able to be in

that specific season alongside you.

: 1425

01:05:27,395 --> 01:05:29,165

Um, but it's been.

: 1426

01:05:29,825 --> 01:05:32,135

It's been so beautiful for all of us.

: 1427

01:05:32,135 --> 01:05:36,065

Like I've just loved hearing each of your

guys' experiences and if you have anything

: 1428

01:05:36,065 --> 01:05:37,085

else to share, Brie, you can go too.

: 1429

01:05:37,085 --> 01:05:42,815

But just loved seeing how we've been

able to kind of like learn to show up for

: 1430

01:05:42,815 --> 01:05:46,505

each other, even though we haven't always

been in the same season at the same time.

: 1431

01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,490

-: 2025

Yeah, but I also think that now that I am

: 1432

01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,045

like in a relationship, like I've never

even thought about the fact that like,

: 1433

01:05:54,045 --> 01:05:55,935

just because you guys are married, like.

: 1434

01:05:57,005 --> 01:06:01,865

You, you're in like a different,

like it's, it's that I knew that

: 1435

01:06:01,865 --> 01:06:06,725

you dated once, like you were just

dating once and now you're married.

: 1436

01:06:06,725 --> 01:06:10,535

But it was like something that you still

had to go through, like that you dated.

: 1437

01:06:10,535 --> 01:06:15,904

And so like when I have things come

up, like in my dating relationship,

: 1438

01:06:15,904 --> 01:06:19,115

like I don't shy away from like

asking you guys like, oh, like

: 1439

01:06:19,115 --> 01:06:21,005

what did you do when this happened?

: 1440

01:06:21,005 --> 01:06:23,375

Or like, like, I love you.

: 1441

01:06:23,375 --> 01:06:24,695

Like, those sorts of things.

: 1442

01:06:24,695 --> 01:06:27,725

Like that happened like for both of you.

: 1443

01:06:27,725 --> 01:06:32,675

And like, and so we, we talk about

those things and so I've never even

: 1444

01:06:32,675 --> 01:06:35,585

thought like, oh, just because they're

married, like they wouldn't have anything

: 1445

01:06:35,585 --> 01:06:37,595

to say about like the dating season.

: 1446

01:06:37,595 --> 01:06:41,225

Like no, like they had like,

just like you were single.

: 1447

01:06:41,285 --> 01:06:45,154

Like you, you also dated,

you know, like, and so yeah.

: 1448

01:06:45,205 --> 01:06:47,695

And it's also probably 'cause we've

been best friends for almost 10 years,

: 1449

01:06:47,695 --> 01:06:51,415

that like, I just don't get nervous,

like asking silly, like silly things.

: 1450

01:06:51,715 --> 01:06:52,005

-: 2025

: 1451

01:06:52,338 --> 01:06:53,418

Um, yeah.

: 1452

01:06:53,508 --> 01:06:57,138

And we like, we love hearing

that stuff and I remember Bri and

: 1453

01:06:57,138 --> 01:07:00,283

I kind of like harping on that

being like low, like we wanna know

: 1454

01:07:00,583 --> 01:07:00,873

-: 2025

Yeah,

: 1455

01:07:01,008 --> 01:07:02,988

-: 2025

going on, like, tell us everything.

: 1456

01:07:02,988 --> 01:07:07,728

'cause like we're like obviously away from

that season, but like, we are so excited

: 1457

01:07:07,728 --> 01:07:12,288

that you are in this season and I mean,

what girl doesn't love a good love story?

: 1458

01:07:12,288 --> 01:07:16,008

So like we love hearing all the details

and like being there in it with you.

: 1459

01:07:16,143 --> 01:07:16,653

Okay.

: 1460

01:07:16,713 --> 01:07:22,893

Let's go into our last segment, which

is just about different challenges that

: 1461

01:07:22,893 --> 01:07:24,693

we've faced throughout our friendship.

: 1462

01:07:24,813 --> 01:07:27,693

What are some of the things that we feel

like we've gone through together that

: 1463

01:07:27,693 --> 01:07:29,103

have been difficult, that we've overcome?

: 1464

01:07:29,703 --> 01:07:30,378

-: 2025

Um, I mean, we.

: 1465

01:07:32,178 --> 01:07:38,658

As a group, we've been part of bigger

groups and just gone through some

: 1466

01:07:38,658 --> 01:07:41,778

hard times with different friends

and, and losing different friends,

: 1467

01:07:41,778 --> 01:07:46,308

which, especially one of them I

think we thought would never happen.

: 1468

01:07:46,938 --> 01:07:50,178

Um, and then, and then when it's

been like that for, you know, four

: 1469

01:07:50,178 --> 01:07:54,048

years outside of college and you

guys are all friends and then, um,

: 1470

01:07:54,078 --> 01:07:59,088

losing that friend, you know, kind of

just recently for us was, was really

: 1471

01:07:59,283 --> 01:07:59,733

-: 2025

: 1472

01:07:59,778 --> 01:08:01,098

-: 2025

we kinda rocked our, our

: 1473

01:08:01,098 --> 01:08:01,938

friendship a little bit.

: 1474

01:08:01,938 --> 01:08:02,668

And the three of us were like.

: 1475

01:08:03,843 --> 01:08:04,983

Are we still a group?

: 1476

01:08:04,983 --> 01:08:07,143

Like how do we, you know, like how

: 1477

01:08:07,258 --> 01:08:07,548

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1478

01:08:07,563 --> 01:08:07,848

-: 2025

work?

: 1479

01:08:08,583 --> 01:08:11,343

Um, and, and just getting used to that.

: 1480

01:08:11,403 --> 01:08:14,853

Um, and I think that was really hard

for each of us in different ways.

: 1481

01:08:14,853 --> 01:08:17,403

And, and there were so many

conversations around that.

: 1482

01:08:17,403 --> 01:08:19,263

Like, okay, what does

it look like for us now?

: 1483

01:08:19,263 --> 01:08:23,193

Like obviously the three of us have

been strong ever since freshman

: 1484

01:08:23,193 --> 01:08:26,103

year, and, and, and it's not the

first time that, you know, a friend

: 1485

01:08:26,103 --> 01:08:27,813

has kind of faded out for us.

: 1486

01:08:27,843 --> 01:08:32,073

Um, and we've stayed at a group, but, um,

I think it's not talked about that much.

: 1487

01:08:32,073 --> 01:08:34,233

I think it does happen

to a lot of other people.

: 1488

01:08:34,368 --> 01:08:34,622

Um,

: 1489

01:08:34,667 --> 01:08:35,058

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: 1490

01:08:35,358 --> 01:08:36,183

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friend, losing a really,

: 1491

01:08:36,183 --> 01:08:37,323

really close friend,

: 1492

01:08:37,633 --> 01:08:38,053

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: 1493

01:08:38,433 --> 01:08:40,563

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that was just as close as, as us.

: 1494

01:08:40,653 --> 01:08:42,663

Um, so that was definitely

a struggle we went through.

: 1495

01:08:43,143 --> 01:08:45,813

Um, but just being supportive

of each other and like letting

: 1496

01:08:45,813 --> 01:08:50,042

each other kind of almost like

grieve that loss on our own time.

: 1497

01:08:50,133 --> 01:08:52,773

Um, you know, for, for other

people it happened quicker.

: 1498

01:08:53,163 --> 01:08:58,983

Um, and like, even though maybe one

of us kind of moved on from it, like.

: 1499

01:08:59,943 --> 01:09:02,462

last person was still, was still

feeling those feelings and like

: 1500

01:09:02,462 --> 01:09:04,983

making sure we come back around and

like, we can still talk about this.

: 1501

01:09:04,983 --> 01:09:05,792

Like, we

: 1502

01:09:05,913 --> 01:09:06,273

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: 1503

01:09:06,273 --> 01:09:06,993

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here for each other.

: 1504

01:09:06,993 --> 01:09:10,292

Even though like I'm, I'm,

I'm in the acceptance stage.

: 1505

01:09:10,292 --> 01:09:13,622

Like I understand that you are

just feeling all these emotions.

: 1506

01:09:13,773 --> 01:09:18,962

Um, so yeah, I mean the, that was what

came to the forefront of my mind with

: 1507

01:09:18,993 --> 01:09:19,263

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: 1508

01:09:19,292 --> 01:09:20,553

-: 2025

our biggest challenges.

: 1509

01:09:21,452 --> 01:09:22,502

-: 2025

that was a huge challenge.

: 1510

01:09:22,502 --> 01:09:28,443

I mean, like losing a really close friend

honestly felt like a breakup, and was

: 1511

01:09:28,443 --> 01:09:30,033

just kind of crazy that that happened.

: 1512

01:09:31,038 --> 01:09:32,207

Twice with us.

: 1513

01:09:32,207 --> 01:09:35,118

And I hope people don't think

like, um, clearly you have the

: 1514

01:09:35,553 --> 01:09:35,943

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Yeah.

: 1515

01:09:36,332 --> 01:09:37,323

Yeah, I was thinking that like,

: 1516

01:09:37,372 --> 01:09:37,673

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: 1517

01:09:37,832 --> 01:09:38,368

-: 2025

oh God, 20.

: 1518

01:09:38,553 --> 01:09:39,558

-: 2025

just gonna tell you right now,

: 1519

01:09:39,558 --> 01:09:40,877

we were not the toxic people.

: 1520

01:09:40,877 --> 01:09:42,048

That's not the problem.

: 1521

01:09:42,258 --> 01:09:44,598

It was just each one

had its own situation.

: 1522

01:09:44,598 --> 01:09:49,368

And, um, each, each of the gals

that had left our little group

: 1523

01:09:49,368 --> 01:09:51,138

of four had their own Yeah.

: 1524

01:09:51,138 --> 01:09:52,968

Reasons for needing to step away.

: 1525

01:09:52,968 --> 01:09:55,938

But it was very unforeseen for

both of us, for all of us, I think.

: 1526

01:09:55,938 --> 01:09:58,998

And so when it first happened sophomore

year of college, I think we were all

: 1527

01:09:58,998 --> 01:10:00,318

kind of like a little bit rattled.

: 1528

01:10:00,318 --> 01:10:01,098

Like, what the heck?

: 1529

01:10:01,098 --> 01:10:03,048

Like we were this like squad of four,

: 1530

01:10:03,233 --> 01:10:03,653

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Mm-hmm.

: 1531

01:10:03,798 --> 01:10:05,238

-: 2025

like, what's life gonna look like?

: 1532

01:10:05,238 --> 01:10:06,378

We were all supposed to live together.

: 1533

01:10:06,378 --> 01:10:08,418

And then things kind of shifted

and I remember all of us kind

: 1534

01:10:08,418 --> 01:10:09,348

of being like, it's okay.

: 1535

01:10:09,348 --> 01:10:12,678

Like, we're gonna get out there and

like, we're gonna like still be friends

: 1536

01:10:12,678 --> 01:10:17,208

and we're gonna enjoy junior year and,

you know, the rest of sophomore year.

: 1537

01:10:17,208 --> 01:10:18,678

And like, we're gonna have a great time.

: 1538

01:10:19,068 --> 01:10:21,678

And then we met another gal and like

kind of brought her into the group.

: 1539

01:10:21,678 --> 01:10:25,008

And then that was like our core group

that took us to the end of college.

: 1540

01:10:25,008 --> 01:10:26,598

And like you said, like even like three.

: 1541

01:10:27,088 --> 01:10:28,738

Four years after college,

: 1542

01:10:29,103 --> 01:10:29,393

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Yeah.

: 1543

01:10:29,458 --> 01:10:30,898

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we just never thought that that

: 1544

01:10:30,898 --> 01:10:33,058

four would ever be separated.

: 1545

01:10:33,058 --> 01:10:38,458

And when we came into this situation where

she like stepped away from the group,

: 1546

01:10:38,577 --> 01:10:41,938

I think we all literally felt like we

broke up with like, the love of our life.

: 1547

01:10:41,938 --> 01:10:44,908

Like, you know, like, like your boyfriend

that you'd been dating for years,

: 1548

01:10:45,178 --> 01:10:48,718

that all of a sudden was like, it's

not me, or no, it's not you, it's me.

: 1549

01:10:48,718 --> 01:10:49,678

I gotta go.

: 1550

01:10:49,678 --> 01:10:50,488

And you're just left.

: 1551

01:10:50,488 --> 01:10:52,018

Like what?

: 1552

01:10:52,168 --> 01:10:52,648

Like

: 1553

01:10:52,948 --> 01:10:55,503

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Well, I think the, I think the hardest

: 1554

01:10:55,503 --> 01:11:01,773

part about the most recent friend that

we, that we lost was that she, she lived

: 1555

01:11:01,773 --> 01:11:04,563

a Christ-centered friendship with us.

: 1556

01:11:05,073 --> 01:11:10,053

Like that was, and, and certainly like

our, our friend in college, like you

: 1557

01:11:10,053 --> 01:11:13,143

guys, like led the Bible study with

her and, and like things like that.

: 1558

01:11:13,143 --> 01:11:15,663

Like we would have conversations

about faith, but we were different

: 1559

01:11:15,663 --> 01:11:17,463

dom, different denominations.

: 1560

01:11:17,463 --> 01:11:21,363

So there wasn't like

full like unity there.

: 1561

01:11:21,688 --> 01:11:21,988

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: 1562

01:11:23,073 --> 01:11:24,153

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but I feel like.

: 1563

01:11:25,068 --> 01:11:30,077

That was also what made it made this

most recent one so much harder was

: 1564

01:11:30,077 --> 01:11:35,688

because it was like, wow, we were so

much more vulnerable with her because

: 1565

01:11:35,778 --> 01:11:41,358

we had bible studies, like, because

we like just felt open to these things

: 1566

01:11:41,418 --> 01:11:48,138

and like it, that was probably like,

at least why it was harder for me on

: 1567

01:11:48,138 --> 01:11:50,327

that one than, than the first one.

: 1568

01:11:50,628 --> 01:11:51,077

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Yeah.

: 1569

01:11:51,378 --> 01:11:53,058

-: 2025

Like, yeah, like certainly like

: 1570

01:11:53,088 --> 01:11:54,558

I've lost friends in my life.

: 1571

01:11:54,558 --> 01:11:58,577

Like I think about like my people that I

would consider my, like best friends from

: 1572

01:11:58,577 --> 01:12:02,718

high school, like it was like freshman,

sophomore year of college that like,

: 1573

01:12:02,808 --> 01:12:04,908

those things just kind of faded out.

: 1574

01:12:04,908 --> 01:12:06,933

But I, and like that's really hard.

: 1575

01:12:07,233 --> 01:12:07,683

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: 1576

01:12:07,788 --> 01:12:09,378

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a lot of that was likely just

: 1577

01:12:09,378 --> 01:12:11,658

like distance wise, like.

: 1578

01:12:11,958 --> 01:12:12,688

-: 2025

It just fizzles.

: 1579

01:12:13,202 --> 01:12:14,073

-: 2025

Yeah, exactly.

: 1580

01:12:14,073 --> 01:12:18,452

Which like I think is fairly common,

but it's like when you have something

: 1581

01:12:18,452 --> 01:12:23,583

more like deep down like that, like

is really the root of your friendship

: 1582

01:12:24,148 --> 01:12:29,523

and then, and then that's like

essentially just like disregarded.

: 1583

01:12:29,613 --> 01:12:30,183

Like it,

: 1584

01:12:31,173 --> 01:12:31,653

-: 2025

It was really hard,

: 1585

01:12:32,223 --> 01:12:32,613

-: 2025

yeah.

: 1586

01:12:32,613 --> 01:12:34,743

Like that's what made that one harder.

: 1587

01:12:35,043 --> 01:12:35,433

-: 2025

specifically.

: 1588

01:12:35,433 --> 01:12:35,793

Yeah.

: 1589

01:12:36,033 --> 01:12:39,093

And I remember like, you know, we

would text every like couple weeks or

: 1590

01:12:39,093 --> 01:12:42,423

couple months, like, hey, like, you

know, I've been thinking about her a

: 1591

01:12:42,423 --> 01:12:44,643

lot recently, like, gosh, this sucks.

: 1592

01:12:44,643 --> 01:12:44,933

Like,

: 1593

01:12:45,233 --> 01:12:45,653

-: 2025

Mm-hmm.

: 1594

01:12:45,952 --> 01:12:47,373

-: 2025

like remember our last girls trip?

: 1595

01:12:47,373 --> 01:12:48,483

Like those memories would come

: 1596

01:12:48,788 --> 01:12:49,208

-: 2025

Mm-hmm.

: 1597

01:12:49,323 --> 01:12:49,983

-: 2025

: 1598

01:12:49,983 --> 01:12:52,683

Like remember when we were

all friends, like, gosh, I

: 1599

01:12:52,683 --> 01:12:54,183

hope, I hope she's doing okay.

: 1600

01:12:54,183 --> 01:12:56,433

You know, like, wonder what happened?

: 1601

01:12:56,433 --> 01:13:00,153

And, and really felt like, yeah, like

you said, Bria, like we had to go

: 1602

01:13:00,153 --> 01:13:01,988

through the stages of denial together

: 1603

01:13:02,288 --> 01:13:02,708

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Agreed.

: 1604

01:13:03,008 --> 01:13:08,253

-: 2025

together, um, our own times and kind

: 1605

01:13:08,253 --> 01:13:09,183

of just get through that together.

: 1606

01:13:09,183 --> 01:13:11,343

And we came out stronger and.

: 1607

01:13:11,748 --> 01:13:17,058

We like, we reen, we reemphasize like

we are committed to this group and

: 1608

01:13:17,058 --> 01:13:20,388

like, we're not going anywhere and

like, you're not allowed to pull this

: 1609

01:13:20,388 --> 01:13:24,358

because like, we cannot lose another

friend or we are not gonna be okay.

: 1610

01:13:24,658 --> 01:13:24,948

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Yeah.

: 1611

01:13:25,063 --> 01:13:27,888

-: 2025

Yeah, I think, uh, like even though

: 1612

01:13:27,888 --> 01:13:29,713

it was, it was really hard and, and.

: 1613

01:13:30,678 --> 01:13:33,318

You know, every once in a while we'll

still talk about it and, and like

: 1614

01:13:33,318 --> 01:13:34,638

feel some of those feelings again.

: 1615

01:13:35,118 --> 01:13:40,577

It was also like so beautiful for us to

reconnect just the three of us and be

: 1616

01:13:40,638 --> 01:13:40,878

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: 1617

01:13:41,598 --> 01:13:43,278

-: 2025

is this where our priorities lie?

: 1618

01:13:43,278 --> 01:13:47,928

Like, know, am I just as much of a

priority to you as you are to me?

: 1619

01:13:48,288 --> 01:13:50,898

Um, and, and having some of

those beautiful conversations.

: 1620

01:13:50,898 --> 01:13:56,268

And I remember like right after kind

of that last encounter with her, we

: 1621

01:13:56,268 --> 01:13:59,658

did the Walking With Purpose Bible

study and that was probably our

: 1622

01:13:59,658 --> 01:14:03,858

best Bible study that we, like, I

shouldn't say be, it was just like the

: 1623

01:14:04,008 --> 01:14:04,673

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: 1624

01:14:04,973 --> 01:14:07,788

-: 2025

deepest, most vulnerable, the most raw.

: 1625

01:14:07,788 --> 01:14:10,548

Like I was, I just thought to

my, like, every time you get on

: 1626

01:14:10,548 --> 01:14:12,318

the phone it was like three hours

: 1627

01:14:12,798 --> 01:14:13,128

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1628

01:14:13,128 --> 01:14:15,918

-: 2025

just the most incredible conversations.

: 1629

01:14:16,818 --> 01:14:18,318

And I think that was so good.

: 1630

01:14:18,318 --> 01:14:20,598

Like I don't think we like meant

to do it, just like, oh, we need

: 1631

01:14:20,598 --> 01:14:22,008

to reconnect, like let's do this.

: 1632

01:14:22,368 --> 01:14:26,448

But like, it just reinforced

how much trust I have in you

: 1633

01:14:26,448 --> 01:14:29,778

guys and, um, and honestly like.

: 1634

01:14:30,123 --> 01:14:32,583

I kind of started to think to

myself too, like, I don't know if

: 1635

01:14:32,583 --> 01:14:35,133

I would've been this vulnerable if

that fourth person had been here.

: 1636

01:14:35,613 --> 01:14:39,663

Um, and not that, not that I didn't

like trust her, but, but maybe there

: 1637

01:14:39,663 --> 01:14:42,513

wouldn't have been the time, or, or

maybe like, I wouldn't have been able

: 1638

01:14:42,513 --> 01:14:45,993

to hear Mari's whole story or Lauren's

whole story about this, you know?

: 1639

01:14:46,008 --> 01:14:46,428

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: 1640

01:14:47,223 --> 01:14:50,013

-: 2025

I think there was like, it, it sucked

: 1641

01:14:50,013 --> 01:14:52,923

as we went through it, but I think

there's so much beauty that came

: 1642

01:14:52,923 --> 01:14:56,702

out of it and, and honestly, like, I

don't know if it'd really change it.

: 1643

01:14:56,702 --> 01:14:56,918

Like,

: 1644

01:14:57,218 --> 01:14:57,508

-: 2025

: 1645

01:14:57,808 --> 01:15:00,873

-: 2025

know and, and, and I love that the

: 1646

01:15:00,873 --> 01:15:04,143

three of us are back together and just

like very strong in our friendship.

: 1647

01:15:04,353 --> 01:15:04,863

Um,

: 1648

01:15:05,433 --> 01:15:06,993

-: 2025

Because we did have, we did have

: 1649

01:15:06,993 --> 01:15:09,603

a moment in college where like

it was just the three of us.

: 1650

01:15:09,603 --> 01:15:12,243

Like we were there, like

there were the four of us.

: 1651

01:15:12,243 --> 01:15:12,993

And then like,

: 1652

01:15:13,218 --> 01:15:13,608

-: 2025

: 1653

01:15:14,403 --> 01:15:16,503

-: 2025

yeah, like, and then like the, there

: 1654

01:15:16,503 --> 01:15:20,853

was like a period of time where like

we had lost our first friend, but we,

: 1655

01:15:20,883 --> 01:15:24,963

like, the three of us were like so

committed on like finding another person.

: 1656

01:15:24,963 --> 01:15:28,113

I don't know what it was, if we

were just like, oh, four sounds

: 1657

01:15:28,113 --> 01:15:32,493

better than three, or like, we're

just like, really jazzed about this.

: 1658

01:15:32,508 --> 01:15:33,288

-: 2025

happened naturally.

: 1659

01:15:33,288 --> 01:15:35,418

Like you guys had class together, right?

: 1660

01:15:35,883 --> 01:15:36,363

-: 2025

Well, yeah.

: 1661

01:15:36,452 --> 01:15:37,563

Then we knew her brother.

: 1662

01:15:38,688 --> 01:15:40,398

-: 2025

was like, man, you're having a lot of fun.

: 1663

01:15:40,398 --> 01:15:41,628

Like why don't you just hang

out with us all the time?

: 1664

01:15:41,678 --> 01:15:41,928

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1665

01:15:42,633 --> 01:15:43,083

Yeah.

: 1666

01:15:43,413 --> 01:15:44,433

And then it totally did.

: 1667

01:15:44,433 --> 01:15:47,583

And so I think it was just like really

natural for us to like also just

: 1668

01:15:47,583 --> 01:15:48,993

like, go back to the three of us.

: 1669

01:15:48,993 --> 01:15:53,088

Like, it, it wasn't something that

we hadn't, hadn't done before.

: 1670

01:15:53,388 --> 01:15:53,628

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: 1671

01:15:53,853 --> 01:15:54,243

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1672

01:15:54,528 --> 01:15:54,918

-: 2025

for sure.

: 1673

01:15:55,044 --> 01:15:55,434

-: 2025

: 1674

01:15:55,434 --> 01:15:55,794

Wow.

: 1675

01:15:55,794 --> 01:15:58,524

Well, we got really, really

deep there, really fast.

: 1676

01:15:58,584 --> 01:16:03,204

Um, so let's lighten things up with a

little game that we are gonna end on.

: 1677

01:16:03,504 --> 01:16:06,714

Um, we're gonna call it

the holy Girl hot seat.

: 1678

01:16:06,774 --> 01:16:12,804

So ready to laugh, be exposed to other a

little bit because you are gonna have 0.2

: 1679

01:16:12,804 --> 01:16:14,364

seconds to answer these questions.

: 1680

01:16:14,724 --> 01:16:17,994

We're all gonna answer 'em, and we're

gonna go around really quickly and

: 1681

01:16:17,994 --> 01:16:21,443

I think it's just gonna give our

listeners a little bit deeper insight

: 1682

01:16:21,443 --> 01:16:24,443

into like who we are and who we,

who we each are in the friend group.

: 1683

01:16:24,443 --> 01:16:24,744

So

: 1684

01:16:25,044 --> 01:16:27,114

-: 2025

So this is like, like are these

: 1685

01:16:27,114 --> 01:16:29,709

the questions like current or

like when we were in college?

: 1686

01:16:31,644 --> 01:16:34,584

-: 2025

think like some, some will be like in

: 1687

01:16:34,584 --> 01:16:38,934

college, some will be current, and we

can kind of just answer it as it goes.

: 1688

01:16:38,934 --> 01:16:45,234

I will also say, I haven't even read all

the questions and I just asked chat, GBT.

: 1689

01:16:45,234 --> 01:16:47,334

So this is gonna be a

first for all of us, and

: 1690

01:16:47,369 --> 01:16:47,659

-: 2025

Okay.

: 1691

01:16:47,664 --> 01:16:48,534

-: 2025

that they don't suck.

: 1692

01:16:51,724 --> 01:16:54,699

Okay, number one, who was

the messiest roommate?

: 1693

01:16:55,464 --> 01:16:58,734

-: 2025

3, 2, 1, 3.

: 1694

01:16:59,274 --> 01:16:59,904

Hmm.

: 1695

01:17:01,689 --> 01:17:02,289

-: 2025

I would say myself.

: 1696

01:17:03,339 --> 01:17:03,579

-: 2025

: 1697

01:17:03,624 --> 01:17:03,864

-: 2025

Okay.

: 1698

01:17:03,864 --> 01:17:04,284

Honestly,

: 1699

01:17:04,659 --> 01:17:05,648

-: 2025

railing right behind.

: 1700

01:17:06,744 --> 01:17:09,744

-: 2025

yeah, honestly, it's, it's a close tie

: 1701

01:17:09,744 --> 01:17:11,919

when I think about like your rooms,

: 1702

01:17:12,219 --> 01:17:12,789

-: 2025

: 1703

01:17:13,104 --> 01:17:13,884

-: 2025

you know?

: 1704

01:17:14,184 --> 01:17:16,224

Um, but more often than not.

: 1705

01:17:17,709 --> 01:17:19,179

-: 2025

I, yeah, I think you're right.

: 1706

01:17:19,299 --> 01:17:23,439

I was gonna say Brie, but then I was

like, no dude, you had such a messy room.

: 1707

01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:28,479

Like I've always had a tendency to like

just have clothes pile up and I, for

: 1708

01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,229

some reason just remember that more

than I remembered Brie's, but probably

: 1709

01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:33,669

just 'cause I lived in that, so,

: 1710

01:17:34,299 --> 01:17:34,479

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: 1711

01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:35,009

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1712

01:17:35,079 --> 01:17:35,499

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I was

: 1713

01:17:35,769 --> 01:17:35,949

-: 2025

: 1714

01:17:35,949 --> 01:17:41,229

-: 2025

at keeping the, like common

: 1715

01:17:41,304 --> 01:17:42,204

-: 2025

common space.

: 1716

01:17:42,219 --> 01:17:42,579

-: 2025

: 1717

01:17:42,654 --> 01:17:42,879

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1718

01:17:42,894 --> 01:17:47,574

Mari Mari actually would leave like shoes.

: 1719

01:17:48,009 --> 01:17:51,219

Um, particularly shoes, like everywhere.

: 1720

01:17:52,269 --> 01:17:56,349

Um, I was, okay, this is an example

of Lauren being a mom is like, I

: 1721

01:17:56,349 --> 01:17:58,574

would put stuff on the staircase.

: 1722

01:17:58,874 --> 01:17:59,094

-: 2025

: 1723

01:17:59,499 --> 01:18:01,389

-: 2025

Like everybody had a designated

: 1724

01:18:01,389 --> 01:18:06,699

staircase where their things would

pile up on and it was like a subtle,

: 1725

01:18:06,729 --> 01:18:08,799

like kind of almost passive aggressive.

: 1726

01:18:08,799 --> 01:18:12,729

Like, you need to take your, you

need to take your things upstairs.

: 1727

01:18:13,029 --> 01:18:13,959

-: 2025

they'll put it in your room.

: 1728

01:18:14,648 --> 01:18:14,709

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1729

01:18:15,159 --> 01:18:15,759

-: 2025

: 1730

01:18:15,909 --> 01:18:17,799

Who cried the most in college?

: 1731

01:18:18,684 --> 01:18:19,164

-: 2025

: 1732

01:18:19,568 --> 01:18:20,109

-: 2025

Mari,

: 1733

01:18:20,499 --> 01:18:20,829

-: 2025

: 1734

01:18:20,829 --> 01:18:21,789

I was gonna say, Bri,

: 1735

01:18:22,434 --> 01:18:22,584

-: 2025

What?

: 1736

01:18:23,874 --> 01:18:24,909

I hated crying

: 1737

01:18:26,349 --> 01:18:28,689

-: 2025

think I cried the most in college?

: 1738

01:18:28,764 --> 01:18:29,634

-: 2025

a hundred percent.

: 1739

01:18:29,634 --> 01:18:32,424

You cried that one time you had to

go get your blood drawn or something.

: 1740

01:18:33,514 --> 01:18:33,773

Oh my

: 1741

01:18:33,814 --> 01:18:35,109

-: 2025

another video we could

: 1742

01:18:35,109 --> 01:18:35,719

share with the group.

: 1743

01:18:37,299 --> 01:18:39,879

-: 2025

you cried about being stressed all the

: 1744

01:18:39,879 --> 01:18:42,849

time and you were stressed all the time.

: 1745

01:18:45,339 --> 01:18:46,359

I think that,

: 1746

01:18:46,434 --> 01:18:46,764

-: 2025

: 1747

01:18:46,764 --> 01:18:47,784

I mean me.

: 1748

01:18:48,773 --> 01:18:50,484

-: 2025

Well, I think Mari and then like,

: 1749

01:18:50,574 --> 01:18:58,523

and then Brie, like the, the messiest

roommate is like close, but like the, the

: 1750

01:18:58,523 --> 01:19:01,329

crying is like kind of a bigger, bigger,

: 1751

01:19:01,629 --> 01:19:04,089

-: 2025

gonna like, I have a lot of emotions.

: 1752

01:19:04,089 --> 01:19:05,079

I'm just a girl.

: 1753

01:19:05,869 --> 01:19:06,489

-: 2025

you know, and I,

: 1754

01:19:06,594 --> 01:19:07,644

-: 2025

supposed to make me feel good.

: 1755

01:19:10,359 --> 01:19:10,539

-: 2025

: 1756

01:19:10,539 --> 01:19:12,279

Sometimes it was happy tears too, right?

: 1757

01:19:12,279 --> 01:19:13,389

You know, like deep tears.

: 1758

01:19:13,389 --> 01:19:14,139

It wasn't just like

: 1759

01:19:14,459 --> 01:19:15,684

-: 2025

yeah, yeah.

: 1760

01:19:16,599 --> 01:19:19,509

-: 2025

likely to forget to reply to a text.

: 1761

01:19:20,394 --> 01:19:20,994

-: 2025

Mari,

: 1762

01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:23,799

-: 2025

Lauren, are you kidding me?

: 1763

01:19:25,239 --> 01:19:27,429

I respond pretty quickly.

: 1764

01:19:30,443 --> 01:19:32,394

Bri, you need to be the tiebreaker here.

: 1765

01:19:33,099 --> 01:19:34,139

-: 2025

wasn't gonna say myself,

: 1766

01:19:35,273 --> 01:19:35,994

-: 2025

oh, no.

: 1767

01:19:37,404 --> 01:19:38,244

-: 2025

: 1768

01:19:38,359 --> 01:19:39,744

-: 2025

so Oh no.

: 1769

01:19:40,644 --> 01:19:42,324

of the two of you guys,

: 1770

01:19:44,454 --> 01:19:45,804

I don't know you guys, I don't know.

: 1771

01:19:45,804 --> 01:19:47,004

I think you both are pretty good.

: 1772

01:19:49,644 --> 01:19:52,614

I'm like notorious for like reading

it and then forgetting to reply.

: 1773

01:19:53,934 --> 01:19:55,884

-: 2025

I think, I think I would like

: 1774

01:19:55,884 --> 01:19:57,339

to make a case for myself

: 1775

01:19:57,639 --> 01:19:57,979

-: 2025

: 1776

01:19:58,044 --> 01:20:00,354

-: 2025

that, in that in the way that I'm a mom,

: 1777

01:20:00,354 --> 01:20:06,354

I'm also a grandma, so I go to bed at

9:00 PM which seems to be the most active

: 1778

01:20:06,354 --> 01:20:08,124

time that you girls always like to chat.

: 1779

01:20:09,234 --> 01:20:09,354

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1780

01:20:09,409 --> 01:20:09,699

-: 2025

: 1781

01:20:09,714 --> 01:20:09,999

-: 2025

Lauren,

: 1782

01:20:11,664 --> 01:20:14,004

-: 2025

so then it's not, it's so that, it's not

: 1783

01:20:14,004 --> 01:20:20,034

that I forget, it's that I am literally

asleep and then when I wake up in the

: 1784

01:20:20,034 --> 01:20:23,034

morning, it's, I respond to every text.

: 1785

01:20:23,749 --> 01:20:24,299

-: 2025

there you go.

: 1786

01:20:27,094 --> 01:20:29,259

Who is most likely to make

you laugh when you cry?

: 1787

01:20:33,954 --> 01:20:34,284

-: 2025

I think me.

: 1788

01:20:37,909 --> 01:20:38,544

-: 2025

I think me.

: 1789

01:20:39,818 --> 01:20:40,109

-: 2025

Cool.

: 1790

01:20:42,519 --> 01:20:43,059

-: 2025

I think Brie,

: 1791

01:20:47,739 --> 01:20:49,029

who gives the best advice?

: 1792

01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:50,509

-: 2025

Sorry.

: 1793

01:20:52,449 --> 01:20:53,529

-: 2025

I was gonna say Bri,

: 1794

01:20:55,089 --> 01:20:56,079

-: 2025

I was gonna say myself.

: 1795

01:20:56,919 --> 01:20:57,939

-: 2025

I would say Mari too.

: 1796

01:20:58,779 --> 01:21:00,099

-: 2025

I think I give good advice.

: 1797

01:21:02,589 --> 01:21:05,259

Uh, what is one thing other

people always make fun of you for?

: 1798

01:21:05,259 --> 01:21:05,318

I,

: 1799

01:21:07,119 --> 01:21:08,499

-: 2025

Oh, I got a good one for Mari.

: 1800

01:21:08,559 --> 01:21:09,939

Actually, I got a good

one for both of you.

: 1801

01:21:10,449 --> 01:21:10,719

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1802

01:21:10,929 --> 01:21:11,559

-: 2025

I can't say it.

: 1803

01:21:12,339 --> 01:21:12,969

-: 2025

Mari.

: 1804

01:21:12,969 --> 01:21:17,619

Um, likes, likes to do this thing

where she takes her socks off.

: 1805

01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:18,249

Um,

: 1806

01:21:18,549 --> 01:21:18,789

-: 2025

: 1807

01:21:18,789 --> 01:21:20,229

But you guys don't make

fun of me for that.

: 1808

01:21:20,318 --> 01:21:21,068

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1809

01:21:21,129 --> 01:21:22,509

Maurice spills everything.

: 1810

01:21:23,344 --> 01:21:24,439

-: 2025

That's what I was gonna say for Brie.

: 1811

01:21:24,969 --> 01:21:26,079

-: 2025

wait, Bri spills everything

: 1812

01:21:26,079 --> 01:21:26,664

Whatcha talking about?

: 1813

01:21:27,114 --> 01:21:28,554

-: 2025

we both spill everything, but I was

: 1814

01:21:28,554 --> 01:21:30,474

gonna say like, Bri's, just a clutz.

: 1815

01:21:31,449 --> 01:21:31,959

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1816

01:21:33,494 --> 01:21:33,784

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1817

01:21:34,449 --> 01:21:35,769

-: 2025

uh, starts when she laughs,

: 1818

01:21:38,004 --> 01:21:39,174

-: 2025

I always forget that.

: 1819

01:21:39,174 --> 01:21:42,114

And then every time it happens, I'm

always like, where did that come from?

: 1820

01:21:44,484 --> 01:21:45,924

-: 2025

Bri was pretty notorious for like

: 1821

01:21:45,924 --> 01:21:48,264

a February ankle sprain for like,

: 1822

01:21:48,773 --> 01:21:50,064

-: 2025

Very notorious.

: 1823

01:21:50,664 --> 01:21:51,834

-: 2025

remember when we wanted to have her

: 1824

01:21:51,834 --> 01:21:53,634

birthday party at a trampoline park?

: 1825

01:21:53,934 --> 01:21:54,773

-: 2025

And then she sprained her

: 1826

01:21:54,773 --> 01:21:56,784

ankle and ruined her own party.

: 1827

01:21:57,099 --> 01:21:57,549

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1828

01:21:58,674 --> 01:21:59,693

Yeah, I'm always good for that.

: 1829

01:21:59,693 --> 01:22:01,434

I don't know, just too much adventuring,

: 1830

01:22:02,579 --> 01:22:02,869

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1831

01:22:02,874 --> 01:22:03,294

-: 2025

: 1832

01:22:05,064 --> 01:22:06,279

-: 2025

Who takes the longest to get ready?

: 1833

01:22:07,164 --> 01:22:07,554

-: 2025

Mari,

: 1834

01:22:08,119 --> 01:22:09,924

-: 2025

Sorry, was an easy one.

: 1835

01:22:10,284 --> 01:22:11,693

-: 2025

that was unanimous.

: 1836

01:22:13,049 --> 01:22:13,169

I,

: 1837

01:22:13,693 --> 01:22:15,914

-: 2025

most likely to be a saint one day.

: 1838

01:22:16,648 --> 01:22:17,219

-: 2025

Laurie.

: 1839

01:22:17,519 --> 01:22:19,424

-: 2025

And and who's the fun Saint

: 1840

01:22:22,244 --> 01:22:24,224

Lauren raises her hand for the fun saint.

: 1841

01:22:24,959 --> 01:22:26,159

-: 2025

Lauren's like, I'm the fun mom.

: 1842

01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:26,398

I'm the

: 1843

01:22:26,534 --> 01:22:29,834

-: 2025

I like to say that I fully expect

: 1844

01:22:29,834 --> 01:22:30,974

to see all of you in heaven.

: 1845

01:22:30,974 --> 01:22:31,844

So that would,

: 1846

01:22:32,999 --> 01:22:33,539

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1847

01:22:33,839 --> 01:22:35,249

I, I hope we're all there too.

: 1848

01:22:36,114 --> 01:22:36,234

I,

: 1849

01:22:36,644 --> 01:22:39,044

-: 2025

is your most iconic shared memory?

: 1850

01:22:42,539 --> 01:22:42,959

-: 2025

: 1851

01:22:43,844 --> 01:22:44,714

-: 2025

: 1852

01:22:45,629 --> 01:22:48,389

-: 2025

Most iconic, like, oh, remember

: 1853

01:22:48,389 --> 01:22:51,839

that one time we, um, saran

wrapped that one person's car?

: 1854

01:22:52,394 --> 01:22:53,894

-: 2025

That was hilarious.

: 1855

01:22:54,104 --> 01:22:56,279

And then they had like zero reaction back.

: 1856

01:22:56,579 --> 01:22:57,029

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1857

01:22:57,489 --> 01:22:57,709

-: 2025

: 1858

01:22:58,484 --> 01:22:59,054

-: 2025

defeating,

: 1859

01:22:59,818 --> 01:23:00,404

-: 2025

I don't know, like,

: 1860

01:23:00,404 --> 01:23:00,674

-: 2025

: 1861

01:23:00,839 --> 01:23:02,279

-: 2025

like, is that most iconic?

: 1862

01:23:02,579 --> 01:23:02,799

-: 2025

: 1863

01:23:03,584 --> 01:23:04,604

-: 2025

it's almost iconic.

: 1864

01:23:04,604 --> 01:23:05,114

-: 2025

my gosh.

: 1865

01:23:05,114 --> 01:23:06,974

How about when we,

: 1866

01:23:09,029 --> 01:23:14,204

when we got, when we got ticket basketball

tickets from that one basketball player.

: 1867

01:23:14,699 --> 01:23:14,999

-: 2025

: 1868

01:23:15,144 --> 01:23:15,344

-: 2025

yeah.

: 1869

01:23:15,389 --> 01:23:16,139

-: 2025

: 1870

01:23:17,174 --> 01:23:18,224

-: 2025

And we gave them a bag of

: 1871

01:23:18,224 --> 01:23:20,023

oranges as a thank you.

: 1872

01:23:21,614 --> 01:23:22,004

-: 2025

I think there

: 1873

01:23:22,019 --> 01:23:22,648

-: 2025

: 1874

01:23:22,949 --> 01:23:23,144

-: 2025

: 1875

01:23:25,499 --> 01:23:27,869

-: 2025

remember a lot of like doing your

: 1876

01:23:27,869 --> 01:23:29,818

nails and watching bachelor nights.

: 1877

01:23:30,689 --> 01:23:32,789

I mean, that's not like, like

most iconic, but it's like,

: 1878

01:23:33,169 --> 01:23:33,589

-: 2025

That's.

: 1879

01:23:33,773 --> 01:23:33,959

-: 2025

not, it's not,

: 1880

01:23:36,059 --> 01:23:37,259

it's not most iconic.

: 1881

01:23:37,259 --> 01:23:38,879

It's just like something

we did like every Monday.

: 1882

01:23:42,314 --> 01:23:42,824

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1883

01:23:43,109 --> 01:23:43,199

Hmm.

: 1884

01:23:44,609 --> 01:23:45,179

Not iconic,

: 1885

01:23:48,809 --> 01:23:49,318

-: 2025

: 1886

01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:50,398

That's fine.

: 1887

01:23:51,329 --> 01:23:53,729

Maybe iconic is the wrong word to use.

: 1888

01:23:53,729 --> 01:23:57,959

What is like the core memory you

carry with you of our friend group?

: 1889

01:24:03,584 --> 01:24:05,894

Lauren, you literally said this

at the beginning of the podcast,

: 1890

01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,659

-: 2025

Oh, sorry, that was so long ago.

: 1891

01:24:10,139 --> 01:24:11,699

We've covered so much then.

: 1892

01:24:12,179 --> 01:24:13,409

Um, okay.

: 1893

01:24:13,409 --> 01:24:19,499

Well, like Brie said, Mari and I

are her godparents slash sponsors.

: 1894

01:24:19,559 --> 01:24:27,089

Um, when she, um, as she went

through RCIA, and so it was her

: 1895

01:24:27,119 --> 01:24:35,039

baptism night on the Easter vigil,

and we, she was like the first one,

: 1896

01:24:35,039 --> 01:24:37,439

they did it like alphabetically,

weren't you like the first one?

: 1897

01:24:38,039 --> 01:24:38,699

And,

: 1898

01:24:39,659 --> 01:24:39,959

Yeah.

: 1899

01:24:40,259 --> 01:24:40,559

yeah.

: 1900

01:24:40,559 --> 01:24:47,579

And so what it, what was that thing that

they put, like, is it a horse trough?

: 1901

01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:48,089

Right.

: 1902

01:24:48,429 --> 01:24:49,129

-: 2025

on the altar.

: 1903

01:24:49,279 --> 01:24:49,568

Yeah.

: 1904

01:24:49,639 --> 01:24:50,489

Some people might be.

: 1905

01:24:54,889 --> 01:24:56,959

-: 2025

So she's getting dunked

: 1906

01:24:56,959 --> 01:24:58,129

and then she comes up.

: 1907

01:24:58,129 --> 01:25:03,799

And then my, my core memory was Mari,

and I like this just split moment

: 1908

01:25:03,799 --> 01:25:07,879

where we just like put this towel over

her and it was just like, I started

: 1909

01:25:07,879 --> 01:25:09,409

crying, like, I don't know what it was.

: 1910

01:25:09,409 --> 01:25:12,559

It was just like, you were like,

when the baby gets the towel,

: 1911

01:25:12,559 --> 01:25:15,469

like after they're baptized, like

it's just like a beautiful moment.

: 1912

01:25:15,799 --> 01:25:16,129

But then

: 1913

01:25:16,443 --> 01:25:18,664

-: 2025

birth moment and like Lauren

: 1914

01:25:18,664 --> 01:25:20,374

wraps a towel around her.

: 1915

01:25:20,719 --> 01:25:24,289

-: 2025

yeah, there's a photo of it and, but

: 1916

01:25:24,289 --> 01:25:29,959

then Mari and Brie's, like secondary

core memory within this memory is.

: 1917

01:25:30,664 --> 01:25:32,404

-: 2025

just the fact that like after you

: 1918

01:25:32,404 --> 01:25:35,914

came out of the trough and we were

like walking you, like you walk around

: 1919

01:25:35,914 --> 01:25:39,214

the back so that you can like dry

off and put your robe on or whatever.

: 1920

01:25:39,214 --> 01:25:40,144

I can't fully remember.

: 1921

01:25:40,144 --> 01:25:45,664

And we just could not stop laughing

like we were overcome with like the

: 1922

01:25:45,664 --> 01:25:47,943

church giggles as we were walking back.

: 1923

01:25:48,064 --> 01:25:51,244

And I remember like the church is

quiet, someone else is being baptized.

: 1924

01:25:51,514 --> 01:25:54,814

Like it's kind of an echoey church and

we're all trying to like not laugh.

: 1925

01:25:54,814 --> 01:25:55,773

And we're like, why are we laughing?

: 1926

01:25:55,773 --> 01:25:56,914

Why are we, we're just so happy?

: 1927

01:25:56,914 --> 01:25:58,023

Like why are we laughing?

: 1928

01:25:58,294 --> 01:25:59,789

And we just laughed all

the way to the back.

: 1929

01:26:00,514 --> 01:26:01,114

-: 2025

Yeah, I remember

: 1930

01:26:01,234 --> 01:26:03,214

-: 2025

the way around, like remember we had to

: 1931

01:26:03,214 --> 01:26:05,079

go through the back all the way around.

: 1932

01:26:08,104 --> 01:26:08,224

-: 2025

yeah,

: 1933

01:26:09,004 --> 01:26:09,404

-: 2025

Yeah, yeah,

: 1934

01:26:10,084 --> 01:26:11,284

-: 2025

remember being like, we're gonna

: 1935

01:26:11,284 --> 01:26:13,443

cry so much during this night.

: 1936

01:26:13,504 --> 01:26:14,799

And it was just so like, we couldn't.

: 1937

01:26:15,499 --> 01:26:17,839

I couldn't even, it was like

we were kind of in a rush.

: 1938

01:26:17,839 --> 01:26:20,449

Like I needed to go get in my confirmation

dress and like put the rob on and

: 1939

01:26:20,449 --> 01:26:23,809

everything and like we were laughing

so hard we couldn't walk like it

: 1940

01:26:23,854 --> 01:26:24,124

-: 2025

: 1941

01:26:25,068 --> 01:26:27,704

Look, we were becoming weak, like

our legs were literally weak as.

: 1942

01:26:28,564 --> 01:26:29,644

over and I

: 1943

01:26:29,674 --> 01:26:30,214

-: 2025

Hold it over.

: 1944

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to learn later, like, laughter is

: 1945

01:26:32,554 --> 01:26:33,814

actually a gift of the Holy Spirit.

: 1946

01:26:33,814 --> 01:26:35,614

It's like a manifestation

of the Holy Spirit.

: 1947

01:26:35,854 --> 01:26:38,674

Like, like tears or like,

uh, speaking tongues.

: 1948

01:26:38,674 --> 01:26:42,364

Like, kind of like how the, how the Holy

Spirit can show up in like physical ways.

: 1949

01:26:43,384 --> 01:26:45,469

I truly feel like that was that moment.

: 1950

01:26:45,544 --> 01:26:47,884

It was like you were like washed

with the Holy Spirit and then all of

: 1951

01:26:47,884 --> 01:26:51,514

a sudden we were just like breaking

out in laughter and so joyful.

: 1952

01:26:51,514 --> 01:26:52,894

And we were like, what is happening?

: 1953

01:26:52,894 --> 01:26:53,884

Why can't we stop?

: 1954

01:26:54,964 --> 01:26:57,064

definitely top core memory.

: 1955

01:26:58,834 --> 01:27:00,273

Okay, last question here.

: 1956

01:27:00,273 --> 01:27:03,124

What's something only the

three of you would understand?

: 1957

01:27:06,994 --> 01:27:09,409

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we supposed to explain it on the podcast?

: 1958

01:27:09,514 --> 01:27:10,354

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don't have to explain it.

: 1959

01:27:10,414 --> 01:27:11,884

Mine is Jeff.

: 1960

01:27:13,279 --> 01:27:14,769

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Mine was also gonna be Jeff

: 1961

01:27:15,634 --> 01:27:17,193

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I figured yours was gonna be Jeff.

: 1962

01:27:17,269 --> 01:27:20,148

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so I'll second that with, um, his wife,

: 1963

01:27:22,174 --> 01:27:23,344

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Ooh, what's her name?

: 1964

01:27:23,939 --> 01:27:24,229

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Gwen.

: 1965

01:27:26,044 --> 01:27:26,969

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And I just wanna clarify.

: 1966

01:27:27,269 --> 01:27:28,849

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was, I completely forgot about that.

: 1967

01:27:28,969 --> 01:27:29,089

I

: 1968

01:27:29,148 --> 01:27:31,159

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just wanna, I just wanna clarify that

: 1969

01:27:31,159 --> 01:27:33,049

Gwen and Jeff are not human beings.

: 1970

01:27:33,349 --> 01:27:34,099

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: 1971

01:27:34,249 --> 01:27:35,299

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We'll just leave it at that.

: 1972

01:27:35,659 --> 01:27:36,799

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no, I was

: 1973

01:27:36,814 --> 01:27:37,034

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: 1974

01:27:37,429 --> 01:27:38,779

-: 2025

three P kc,

: 1975

01:27:39,979 --> 01:27:40,369

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: 1976

01:27:40,549 --> 01:27:41,479

-: 2025

no context.

: 1977

01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:43,068

-: 2025

No context.

: 1978

01:27:44,314 --> 01:27:46,384

-: 2025

I think secondary to that could be BBO

: 1979

01:27:46,789 --> 01:27:47,179

-: 2025

Yeah,

: 1980

01:27:47,929 --> 01:27:48,409

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: 1981

01:27:48,754 --> 01:27:49,114

-: 2025

: 1982

01:27:49,424 --> 01:27:51,019

-: 2025

asks me all the time, what's bbo?

: 1983

01:27:51,049 --> 01:27:52,369

I'm like, doesn't matter.

: 1984

01:27:52,834 --> 01:27:54,129

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or N, no NOB.

: 1985

01:27:55,999 --> 01:27:57,109

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: 1986

01:27:57,529 --> 01:27:58,639

-: 2025

I forgot about that one.

: 1987

01:27:59,749 --> 01:28:02,509

-: 2025

We're basically rehashing acronyms

: 1988

01:28:02,509 --> 01:28:05,089

we've had as our group chat

names for the past few years.

: 1989

01:28:05,654 --> 01:28:05,874

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: 1990

01:28:05,914 --> 01:28:09,994

-: 2025

there was also also Linda's three Pkcs.

: 1991

01:28:11,064 --> 01:28:11,534

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There was.

: 1992

01:28:12,273 --> 01:28:12,564

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: 1993

01:28:12,829 --> 01:28:13,579

That was Shortlived.

: 1994

01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:14,719

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Short.

: 1995

01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:16,159

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That was Shortlived.

: 1996

01:28:17,449 --> 01:28:22,759

Um, we could talk for hours and

clearly we're almost on the two hour

: 1997

01:28:22,759 --> 01:28:26,523

part here thank you for coming on

and sharing your hearts and just

: 1998

01:28:26,523 --> 01:28:32,614

like, taking the time to speak to my

listeners and rehash our friendship

: 1999

01:28:32,614 --> 01:28:33,874

and go over all the good and the bad.

: 2000

01:28:34,264 --> 01:28:37,954

If you had just like one thing that

you wanted these women to leave with

: 2001

01:28:38,224 --> 01:28:42,214

who are longing for deep friendships

with other women, um, or something

: 2002

01:28:42,214 --> 01:28:44,374

that you've learned with just like

a tidbit that you want them to

: 2003

01:28:44,374 --> 01:28:45,604

walk away with, what would that be?

: 2004

01:28:46,204 --> 01:28:47,704

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um, I would just say like,

: 2005

01:28:48,844 --> 01:28:50,014

you know, don't give up on.

: 2006

01:28:51,049 --> 01:28:52,189

Good, holy friendships.

: 2007

01:28:52,189 --> 01:28:55,669

Like I think there's a lot of times

that you can kind of just get stuck

: 2008

01:28:55,669 --> 01:29:00,679

in groups, um, of women maybe that

you enjoy being with, but don't

: 2009

01:29:00,679 --> 01:29:02,059

necessarily hold your same values.

: 2010

01:29:02,059 --> 01:29:05,749

And, um, I, I think it just takes time.

: 2011

01:29:05,749 --> 01:29:10,818

You know, like for me it took years

of my life to find people that like

: 2012

01:29:11,029 --> 01:29:13,039

really set that fire inside of me.

: 2013

01:29:13,039 --> 01:29:14,629

So, um, just takes time.

: 2014

01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:21,439

And then if you are in those friendships,

um, take the time to, to invest in them,

: 2015

01:29:21,529 --> 01:29:24,109

um, whether they're close by or far away.

: 2016

01:29:24,559 --> 01:29:28,429

Um, don't make sure that you're, you're

staying in touch with your long distance

: 2017

01:29:28,429 --> 01:29:29,959

friendships that mean a lot to you.

: 2018

01:29:29,989 --> 01:29:31,849

Um, 'cause there's so much

fruit that comes from it.

: 2019

01:29:32,269 --> 01:29:35,869

And even though we only get to see each

other, you know, once, twice maybe if

: 2020

01:29:35,869 --> 01:29:39,679

we're lucky three times a year, like

these, these ladies make my day every day.

: 2021

01:29:40,009 --> 01:29:43,489

Um, and means so much to me.

: 2022

01:29:46,174 --> 01:29:49,114

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Mine would be to not be discouraged

: 2023

01:29:49,114 --> 01:29:53,764

by like the challenges that

come with adult friendships.

: 2024

01:29:54,064 --> 01:29:59,104

And I think that we certainly have

an added extra challenge of being

: 2025

01:29:59,104 --> 01:30:00,869

in a long distance adult friendship.

: 2026

01:30:01,529 --> 01:30:06,273

But I think that it's the beauty

that we've, that we talked about that

: 2027

01:30:06,273 --> 01:30:12,544

come out of the challenges are truly

what make the friendships worth,

: 2028

01:30:12,664 --> 01:30:16,624

worth it, you know, every single day

and, and through those challenges.

: 2029

01:30:16,624 --> 01:30:24,214

And so my advice or my nugget, um,

would to just not be discouraged by

: 2030

01:30:25,699 --> 01:30:29,284

something that may not seem like it

was exactly what you intended it to be,

: 2031

01:30:29,284 --> 01:30:30,754

or, or that you thought it would be.

: 2032

01:30:30,754 --> 01:30:34,984

And to, and to never forget

to like lean on your best

: 2033

01:30:34,984 --> 01:30:37,534

friends, like when you need it.

: 2034

01:30:37,534 --> 01:30:37,594

Um.

: 2035

01:30:39,289 --> 01:30:43,429

Like we talked about, like, these, these

women are my sisters and they know that.

: 2036

01:30:43,429 --> 01:30:47,299

And being an only child, they've,

they've always known that they are

: 2037

01:30:47,299 --> 01:30:52,999

like legitimately my sisters, um,

without even having a real sister.

: 2038

01:30:53,299 --> 01:30:54,769

And they both have real sisters.

: 2039

01:30:54,829 --> 01:30:58,398

Um, so they've taught me

how to be a sister, um, what

: 2040

01:30:58,398 --> 01:30:59,898

it's like to have a sister.

: 2041

01:30:59,898 --> 01:31:08,089

And, um, that would be, you know, that's,

um, what I will always have from this.

: 2042

01:31:08,824 --> 01:31:09,184

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: 2043

01:31:09,904 --> 01:31:15,904

I think what I would say is hopefully that

you were able to see just the difference

: 2044

01:31:15,904 --> 01:31:20,014

that a Christ-centered friendship

makes in comparison to one that doesn't

: 2045

01:31:20,014 --> 01:31:23,193

have Christ at the center, and we've

all experienced it in our own lives.

: 2046

01:31:23,494 --> 01:31:28,624

Those friendships that do have Christ at

the center go a thousand times deeper.

: 2047

01:31:29,584 --> 01:31:31,354

10 times quicker, you know what I mean?

: 2048

01:31:31,654 --> 01:31:36,784

And there's so much more that you

share and you're able to rely on

: 2049

01:31:36,784 --> 01:31:40,624

each other more, share more, be

more vulnerable, like be with each

: 2050

01:31:40,624 --> 01:31:42,544

other more closely in the journey.

: 2051

01:31:42,754 --> 01:31:43,894

And that's so important.

: 2052

01:31:43,894 --> 01:31:46,443

And if you don't have people

like that in your life, my advice

: 2053

01:31:46,443 --> 01:31:47,764

would be to really pray about it.

: 2054

01:31:47,764 --> 01:31:51,424

Because God wants those

people for you in your life.

: 2055

01:31:51,693 --> 01:31:54,754

And I am, I know it can be

discouraging to be like, I don't

: 2056

01:31:54,754 --> 01:31:56,374

have anybody like this in my life.

: 2057

01:31:56,374 --> 01:31:59,404

Like I could, I'll never

meet somebody like this.

: 2058

01:31:59,404 --> 01:32:01,354

You know, I won't have

friends like this in my life.

: 2059

01:32:01,354 --> 01:32:01,534

You know?

: 2060

01:32:01,534 --> 01:32:04,324

How am I supposed to like have

Christ-centered friendships or

: 2061

01:32:04,324 --> 01:32:07,234

like, you know, walk with women and

like be sisters in Christ if like,

: 2062

01:32:07,234 --> 01:32:08,554

I've never met somebody like that.

: 2063

01:32:08,614 --> 01:32:12,364

But God wants that for you just as

much as you want that for yourself.

: 2064

01:32:12,364 --> 01:32:14,974

And I think it's, it's similar.

: 2065

01:32:15,589 --> 01:32:19,519

To like discerning and praying

for a future spouse, obviously to

: 2066

01:32:19,519 --> 01:32:23,239

a slightly less degree, but like

those Christ-centered women are

: 2067

01:32:23,239 --> 01:32:24,318

really important in your life.

: 2068

01:32:24,318 --> 01:32:25,249

So pray for those.

: 2069

01:32:25,249 --> 01:32:26,299

Ask God for those.

: 2070

01:32:26,299 --> 01:32:31,999

Ask him to put those people in your path

and make yourself available to find them.

: 2071

01:32:31,999 --> 01:32:34,519

Like go to your parish,

join a women's group.

: 2072

01:32:34,849 --> 01:32:38,659

Um, try and find one woman at the parish

to like get coffee with and then maybe

: 2073

01:32:38,659 --> 01:32:42,469

you can meet a friend that she has and

you start meeting the mutual friends.

: 2074

01:32:42,469 --> 01:32:45,859

But Christ-centered friendships

above all are the ones that last,

: 2075

01:32:45,889 --> 01:32:47,299

um, and the ones that go deep.

: 2076

01:32:47,299 --> 01:32:49,129

So that's what you wanna be looking for.

: 2077

01:32:51,499 --> 01:32:53,719

Okay, friends, thanks so

much for joining me today.

: 2078

01:32:54,049 --> 01:32:57,979

We're finally gonna hop off after a

literal two hours of chatting, but it

: 2079

01:32:57,979 --> 01:33:03,199

was so incredible and I know that we have

more podcast episodes to fill record now.

: 2080

01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:06,979

'cause we talked about Brie's conversion

story, which has to come to the pod.

: 2081

01:33:07,309 --> 01:33:10,009

And Lauren, I wanted talk to you about.

: 2082

01:33:10,059 --> 01:33:10,279

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: 2083

01:33:10,359 --> 01:33:11,289

-: 2025

dating single

: 2084

01:33:11,499 --> 01:33:12,219

-: 2025

Oh, online dating.

: 2085

01:33:12,509 --> 01:33:12,799

-: 2025

yeah.

: 2086

01:33:13,059 --> 01:33:15,189

-: 2025

hear about online dating experience

: 2087

01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:17,679

'cause so many people are in that life.

: 2088

01:33:17,679 --> 01:33:21,909

So, um, catch us back on

Ever be sometime soon.

: 2089

01:33:24,536 --> 01:33:25,706

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Hey guys, Mari here, popping

: 2090

01:33:25,706 --> 01:33:27,566

back in for this episode.

: 2091

01:33:27,566 --> 01:33:32,936

We didn't do an ever be answers segment at

the end, partly because we recorded it a

: 2092

01:33:32,936 --> 01:33:34,916

long time ago and that wasn't a thing yet.

: 2093

01:33:34,916 --> 01:33:39,116

And then partly also because this

episode is already so long, it's so jam

: 2094

01:33:39,116 --> 01:33:43,016

packed with so much good stuff that,

um, I didn't wanna keep you any longer,

: 2095

01:33:43,066 --> 01:33:47,236

but I will continue to do the full q

and a for our Kingdom Club community

: 2096

01:33:47,236 --> 01:33:49,756

on Patreon at the after party episode.

: 2097

01:33:50,086 --> 01:33:53,806

And in that episode I'm gonna be

answering these three questions.

: 2098

01:33:53,806 --> 01:33:57,076

How would you discern whether to be more

public about your faith, especially if you

: 2099

01:33:57,076 --> 01:33:58,936

were not now a Catholic content creator?

: 2100

01:34:00,256 --> 01:34:02,626

Do you ever find it weird or

uncomfortable to film at a Catholic

: 2101

01:34:02,626 --> 01:34:06,931

church Particularly inside the church

or in an adoration chapel As a Catholic

: 2102

01:34:06,931 --> 01:34:10,710

content creator, I always tend to feel

a little superficial when I do it, but

: 2103

01:34:10,710 --> 01:34:14,281

I think it's because I'm afraid of the

judgment from others that see me filming.

: 2104

01:34:14,581 --> 01:34:17,821

But I want others to see the beauty

in being Catholic and the Catholic

: 2105

01:34:17,821 --> 01:34:19,771

faith, which is why I sometimes film.

: 2106

01:34:20,630 --> 01:34:21,891

And last question.

: 2107

01:34:22,130 --> 01:34:25,761

As a Catholic woman seeking guidance

grounded in faith, what steps can I take

: 2108

01:34:25,761 --> 01:34:29,931

to heal from heartbreak and move on in a

way that aligns with God's will for me?

: 2109

01:34:30,411 --> 01:34:34,611

These are such good questions,

relatable and personal, so I'm excited

: 2110

01:34:34,611 --> 01:34:36,081

to answer these at the after party.

: 2111

01:34:36,151 --> 01:34:38,491

If you're not already part of

the Kingdom Club, go ahead and

: 2112

01:34:38,491 --> 01:34:41,311

click the link in our show notes

to join our community over there.

: 2113

01:34:41,581 --> 01:34:42,541

It is incredible.

: 2114

01:34:42,591 --> 01:34:44,031

You get a ton of amazing perks.

: 2115

01:34:44,031 --> 01:34:47,181

You get access to the after

party, which is the bonus episode

: 2116

01:34:47,181 --> 01:34:48,471

that goes out every Wednesday.

: 2117

01:34:48,771 --> 01:34:51,891

Biggest perk, I think, though, is

that you get access to a live monthly

: 2118

01:34:51,891 --> 01:34:55,880

Bible study led by me and you get

plugged into this incredible Catholic

: 2119

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community and if you wanna watch the

podcasts with video only our Kingdom

: 2120

01:34:59,380 --> 01:35:01,031

community gets access to that as well.

: 2121

01:35:01,031 --> 01:35:02,591

So a lot of amazing perks.

: 2122

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Go ahead and join us over there by

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