Episode 70

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8th Oct 2025

70: Thinking About Leading a Bible Study (or Already Are)? Here’s What You Need to Know!

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Mari dives into the essentials of starting a Bible study or small group. Whether you're a novice or seasoned leader, Mari provides actionable steps and encouragement for building a Christ-centered community. She shares her personal experiences, including the importance of prayer, sending invitations, planning social kickoff events, and maintaining a consistent meeting schedule. Mari also emphasizes the significance of creating a welcoming environment and offers advice for facilitating meaningful discussions and reflections. Tune in to cultivate deeper faith-filled relationships and grow your spiritual journey.

00:46 The Importance of Community and Small Groups

02:17 Ever Be Moments: Personal Reflections

05:59 Starting Your Own Bible Study: Step-by-Step Guide

09:57 Creating a Welcoming Environment

11:53 The First Few Weeks: Building Trust and Sharing Stories

16:24 Structuring Your Bible Study Nights

23:42 Creating a Culture of Engagement

25:26 Preparing for Bible Study

27:36 Choosing Study Topics

29:05 Structuring Your Bible Study Year

32:12 Encouraging Group Participation

35:07 Overcoming Leadership Fears

35:27 Practical Tips for Leading

42:06 Building a Habit of Daily Prayer

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Transcript
Speaker:

Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,

and you're listening to The Ever Be

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Podcast where Faith Meets Lifestyle.

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I'm so excited you're here.

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or a longtime follower, I know

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Pull up a chair and listen in for

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actionable steps on how to claim the.

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Full life God created you for.

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If you're a woman desiring to live

a Christ-centered life in today's

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modern world, then this is for you.

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Welcome to ever be.

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to the Ever Be podcast.

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Happy Wednesday.

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I have gotten so many questions from you

lately about how to start a Bible study or

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a small group and I got really fired up,

but I kept getting this question 'cause

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I'm like, this is what I love to do.

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I've led so many of these in the

past and I love equipping other

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people and empowering them to

go out and do the same thing.

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'cause so much evangelization

happens when we.

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Host a small group and live

life with other people in a

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Bible study or a small group.

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And I know that so many of

you are craving community.

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I mean, we all are, we are all made

for relationship, made for community,

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and I know that so many of us lack it.

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Maybe you haven't found it in your area.

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Maybe you've been waiting for

somebody else to start something, but.

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Either way, I wanna encourage you

to be the one to start something,

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and especially if you feel that

nudge, the Lord is probably already

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inviting you to take that step.

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So in today's episode, I'm gonna

share both encouragement and some

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really practical step-by-step

for starting a Bible study.

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Um, think of this, if we

were literally sitting.

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Together over for coffee.

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And you asked me, Mari,

how do I actually do this?

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This is literally the exact things that

I would tell my friend in real life.

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Like it is an actual step-by-step

replicable process that you can use and

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implement in your life to get a small

group started, um, or a Bible study

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started, whichever one you wanna call it.

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It's essentially the same thing.

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Um, and I promise you it's foolproof.

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It'll work.

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But first let's dive into ever be moments.

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I am very excited to share my

ever be moment for the week.

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So this past week was the Feast of St.

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Theres and she is a saint

that I really admire and I

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have read her story of a soul.

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Um, but she's never been

a saint that I'm like.

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Oh, yeah, she's a hundred percent my girl.

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Like, I don't, I definitely think I have

done a novena to her, but I never felt

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like I had really gotten a rose from her,

or even like, particularly, spent a lot of

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time just increasing my devotion to her.

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I'm more of a St.

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Faustina girl.

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Um, but I want to grow in

a relationship with zinter.

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S You're still awesome.

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Um.

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But my ever be moment was tied

into her and I have, I feel

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like she gave me two roses.

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And it's interesting 'cause I'm like,

I didn't even pray for anything.

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So are you just telling

me that like you're here?

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I'm like, okay, great, thanks.

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Um, the first one is we had this

huge photo shoot for West Coast

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Catholic a couple weeks ago.

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Um, and well, it was right

before the feast day and.

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I can't reveal too many details of

what it was for, but one of the parts

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of the photo shoot, we needed these

like pink flowers for a bouquet making

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kind of like a shot that we were doing.

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And so I had all these pink

roses for that part of the photo

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shoot, and then the next day.

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Was the Feast of St.

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Therese and I was hosting actually a

bouquet making party for my Bible study to

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kick off Bible study for us this season.

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And I didn't even plan it

to have all these like roses

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on her feast day in my home.

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And so I felt like.

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We basically celebrated st.

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Theres really intentionally with

all these gorgeous roses in our

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home, but it wasn't even on purpose.

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So I love that that was

something that had happened.

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And then a few days after her, um, feast

Day, it was just like two days later,

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I was out with friends celebrating.

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Someone's birthday and she

actually shares a birthday with St.

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Torre's Feast Day.

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So her birthday is October 1st and

we went out to drinks just a couple

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days later to celebrate her birthday.

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And we told the bar it was.

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Her birthday and that's why

we were here celebrating.

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And they brought us a little, like bubbly.

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I have been to this bar before and

so I always tell them when it's a

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birthday, 'cause I know that they

do this, they bring you like a free

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champagne, um, or a free bubbly

Prosecco or something like that.

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I.

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And when she, when the waitress brought it

out to us, there was a red rose petal in

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every single one of the champagne flutes,

which had never happened to me before.

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Like they don't usually drop

rose petals in these drinks.

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And so I just, I was like,

this is literally st.

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Theres also, because my friend

Ali shares a birthday with St.

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Theres's Feast Day and she loves St.

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Therese.

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So I was like, there's no way this

isn't Saint Therese sending us roses.

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Um, and it just felt like St.

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Therese was such a girl's girl.

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Like for both of those events.

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She showed up for my bible study

and for this like fun drinks night

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for my friend's birthday, and I just

felt like, wow, like Saint theres is.

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A Catholic girl, she's our friend.

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She's just like hanging out with us.

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She's just present with us, interceding

for us, and it just reminded me of

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just how beautiful the community

of Saints are and how present and

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involved they are in our lives.

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So, so that's my ever be moment.

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I was excited to share that with you guys,

but let's jump into the content for today.

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Let's jump into how to start a

Bible study, how to start a small

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group, um, and be successful in it.

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I'm also gonna walk you through, not just

how to start it, but how to be successful

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in it, and just some, tactics that I do.

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To lead well.

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So hopefully it's gonna

be helpful for you.

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Um, let's just get started.

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Step one is start with prayer.

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Surprise.

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It's like, you've never

heard me say that before.

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You're probably sick of me now, but you

know, you know, that's the first step.

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The very first step is prayer.

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If you can, I recommend for you to go

to adoration, sit before the blessed

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sacrament, and ask Jesus straight up,

who are the people in my life that

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you're putting on my heart to invite.

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And just sit with him for a while and

just allow there to be silence for a

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while and see if the Lord puts anybody

on your heart, brings anybody to mind.

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Maybe certain names come to mind right

away, or maybe over time in prayer

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they kind of fizzle into your brain.

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Write those down in a journal

and keep praying with that.

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I will say don't spend too

much time overthinking.

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Like, honestly, everybody

needs a Bible study.

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Everybody needs to be part of a

group, um, and needs community.

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So the names that come up are probably

really great people to invite.

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And just trust the Holy

Spirit nudges here.

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Okay.

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Number two, you want to

send an invite text, right?

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And pick a date.

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I guess number two would be technically

pick a date to have your Bible study,

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whatever your frequency is gonna be weekly

or biweekly, and have it be the same.

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Day, same time.

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So pick, you know, Monday nights

at this time, or Wednesday nights

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at this time, or whatever it is.

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I personally like doing weekly.

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I know a lot of people like doing

biweekly, but I like doing weekly

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because if somebody missed.

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And you're doing every other week, then

you're basically like gonna miss out on,

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you're gonna not see people for a month.

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Does that make sense?

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Like if the first week you all

go to Bible study and then the

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next week you don't have it.

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Right.

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And then the next week would be your week

to have Bible study, but someone can't go.

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And so then they would miss that.

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But then the week after that

you don't have Bible study.

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And so then when you circle back

to the next one, they'd be able to

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go, I hope you're still following.

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'cause I'm.

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You know, I'm pretty sure

you're lost right now.

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They would've not seen

anybody for a month.

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So I like to do weekly because I feel

like it creates a more consistent cadence.

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You're able to get to know each other.

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Quicker share more.

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You have that weekly night that you're

gathering in community and in prayer.

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And then if somebody misses, you know

they're gonna see people the next week

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and you're not gonna miss out on too much.

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So I personally like weekly, but I know

that might be a lot for some people

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and some people can only do biweekly.

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So that's just something to think

about and choose that and then

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create your text and invite the

list of people that you prayed with.

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So once you have your list,

draft up an invitation.

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This is exactly the text that I sent out.

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said something like, hi name.

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It's been on my heart to start

a Bible study and to have more

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of an intentional community.

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And as I've been praying about

who to invite, you came to mind.

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Of course.

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Uh, we're gonna be meeting and then

I inserted the day and time and the

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frequency starting off on this date.

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Um, to kick it off, I'm hosting

a bouquet making night and I

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would love for you to join us.

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Let me know if you can commit to

coming weekly or biweekly or whatever

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frequency it was that you said.

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I want you to put at the end, let

me know if you can commit to coming.

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The time frequency that you said

answer the time frequency, because

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you want people to commit to that time

and for them to know that, to join

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the Bible study, it's a commitment.

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You wanna keep it warm, personal,

and like a little prayerful.

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Um, so people know that

you've been praying about it.

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Um, they feel thought of.

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Some people will say no.

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Some people will say yes, and that's okay.

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God's gonna put together like

the right group that you need.

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Now let's talk about kickoff night.

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Kickoff night is all about

building those friendships.

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So this is one of my biggest tip is you

want to start with a social night, because

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friendship is where trust really grows.

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And without trust, people

won't feel safe to open up, and

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friendships won't really develop.

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So for me it was a bouquet making party.

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Some other fun ideas could be like making

friendship bracelets or candle making

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or some sort of craft night or a spa

night, or even just like a cozy like.

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Potluck of some sort, like something

light and like low stakes where people

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can just kind of do something where they,

while they casually talk at the same time.

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And at that first gathering, we're

mostly just hanging out, getting to

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know each other most of the time.

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And then near the end I kind

of ask, what are you hoping to

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get out of this Bible study?

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And that simple question just opens

up the door for some vulnerability

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and sets the tone that this

group is going to be intentional.

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And I'm actually curious and listening

to what people hope this Bible study

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is going to do for them and their

faith, and that might be looking

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for deeper faith-filled friendships.

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It might be actually growing

in formation of your faith and

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learning more about your faith.

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It might be that somebody has literally

never really opened the Bible before or

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never really read it before, and they just

wanna know scripture better, like know

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different gospels and things that Jesus

actually did when he walked on this earth.

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And the things that he taught, and it

might be that someone is like super

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solid in their faith and actually has

read the Bible and maybe even has a

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faith filled friends, but they just want

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a consistent gathering to be able to

talk about faith, to have an open place

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to share about how God is working in

their life, and kind of process through

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different things that they're struggling

with, um, when it comes to faith or family

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life or personal life or whatever it

is, and know that you're being received

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by a strong faith field group of women.

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So I always ask, what do you

hope to get out of Bible study?

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Um, near the end of

that, uh, social night,

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Then we get into the first few weeks.

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So the second week is usually

when I do a story sharing night.

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I prompt everybody to share how

they're coming into Bible study,

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like emotionally, spiritually.

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Physically, and then also like what

their faith has looked like and how that

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led them to where they are right now.

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So it becomes a little bit of like a short

testimony sharing that everybody does.

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It's not like the 40 minute version of

everybody's testimony where we go like

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super deep and super vulnerable, but it

shares a little bit about what's your

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faith story been like and how did you end

up at this Bible study because everybody

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ends up at a Bible study

for a reason, right?

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Like you have some sort of faith

foundation or interest in a faith

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foundation to even show up to Bible study.

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And this kind of helps you begin to

understand where everybody's at in

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their faith journey and what level of

knowledge they have or how often, or how

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much they actually practice their faith.

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And you kind of get a gauge for

where everybody in the group.

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And I always try and create a really

like warm and welcoming environment.

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I always serve tea at.

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I will study or snacks or light some

candles and have some cozy lighting.

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Um, I try not to turn on the overhead

lights as much as possible and just

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have like little lamps or just more

ambient lighting and some candles.

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Um, 'cause I feel like that

just sets The tone for a cozy

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night where people can open up.

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Um, you get it.

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I don't know.

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It's just an aesthetic, right?

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And hospitality matters and it

communicates like, I cared about you

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coming here I wanna be intentional

with our time, and you belong here.

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You are meant to be in this space.

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And I cultivated it just for you.

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So, yeah, so that second Bible

study night, I still leave time

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for socialization at the beginning.

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Like I still leave like 15 to 30 minutes

of hangout socialization time before

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we move on to like the quote unquote

content or like, theme of the night.

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This is because like, that's

honestly, you could argue.

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The most important part of Bible study

is for people to come together to grow in

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friendship with other Catholic women or

other Christian women, other like-minded

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women with similar values and faith

foundations and desire to grow in their

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faith so that these women can share in

that with each other and walk together

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in the journey of faith and just in

life, and know that they have other women

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that are cheering 'em on and supporting

them that really align with them.

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And this isn't gonna happen if you are not

cultivating a space for friendship, which

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means time to literally just hang out.

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So I always set my tea out or a snack, and

as people walk in, we start making our tea

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and eating and chatting and truth be told.

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7:00 PM is when my Bible study starts,

and that's usually when I eat dinner.

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And I'm usually not, um, I don't know.

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I usually just don't have my ish together

enough during the day to have dinner

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before seven, just because life is crazy.

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Um, so I always usually end up eating

my dinner around that time too.

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So we all just kind of gather

around my island or my kitchen

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table and we all have snacks and

tea and, and Mari eats her dinner.

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Um.

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And that's how we start out the night

and then we move to the living room

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and that's when we actually start like

the content or the theme of the night.

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I always start with a prayer.

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And then for this first Bible study,

like I just shared, we kind of go into

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like storytelling testimony night.

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Don't like put too much pressure on

yourself to open scripture that night.

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I always have a passage picked

out in case there's maybe like.

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Five to 10 minutes at the

end just to end with that.

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But I don't really plan for a lot of

like bible study discussion time, um,

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for this second meeting because we're

just trying to get to know each other,

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learn each other's faith stories, get

comfortable with talking about our

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faith and sharing about our faith and

being vulnerable and, and personal.

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So that's what I do.

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And depending on how much, people

talk and share and how long people

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share or how many people you have

in your Bible study that night might

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spill into two weeks, and that's okay.

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And maybe that second week it

only goes halfway, and then you

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can do like lexio or something to

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wrap up that meeting.

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So that's the second week.

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Then for the next four to eight weeks, I

recommend sticking to just Lexio Divina

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instead of like a specific Bible study

that really dives into kind of more

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intricate content or specific content.

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Um, I just wanna start with Flexio

Dina, because I just want people to get

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comfortable with opening their bibles

with talking about what resonates with

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them, with sharing more about their

faith openly with the whole group.

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So let's talk about the structure of a

Bible study night in these first four

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to eight weeks that you're leading it.

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This is what a typical night would

look like, for a Bible study that.

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I would host.

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First you have that 15, 20, maybe

30 minute social time chat, pour

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your tea, settle in, hang out, hear

about people's lives, all that stuff.

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Very casual building friendship, right?

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Then we move to the couch

where it's more cozy and deep.

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And I start with a check-in question.

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I always start with a check-in

question because I actually

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wanna know how are people doing?

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How are they coming into

Bible study tonight?

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And just opening up the space and the room

for people to share something on their

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hearts if they wanna bring it to the group

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and just share more about their life.

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So that check-in question might look

different every week, maybe one night.

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It's, how are you coming

into Bible study tonight?

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Other weeks, it's what is the highlight

and low light of your week where you

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basically share, you know, something great

that happened and something that sucked

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or share a God moment from this week.

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Um, or if we're short on time, maybe I'll

do something like kind of creative and

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say, describe your week in three words.

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Um, or if we have more time,

I'll say, describe your week

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in three words and then.

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Explain why those three words

represent your week and then we

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do a little bit more sharing.

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Um, these prompts just help to keep it

kind of like fresh and inviting people to

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share more vulnerably than just, I'm good.

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'cause if all you ask every single

week is, how's everybody doing

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every single week, it can kind of

fall flat and it can kind of fall

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like a little bit stale over time.

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And, and honestly, some

people might just need.

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More prompting, more specific

prompting, um, to know what to

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share, like they wanna share.

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But some people, it's just hard to

kind of dig through their brains and

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come up with something to share about.

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But if you have a little bit more of

a specific prompt, it can help people

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open up more because they'll have more

specific idea of what to be sharing.

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After we do a check-in, I

start with an opening prayer.

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I always lead the prayer at the beginning

because I want people to see and to

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hear prayer out loud in an example

of what it's like to pray out loud

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so they know it doesn't have to sound

fancy or special or you don't have

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to like read a written prayer that.

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Pre-written, right?

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It's just about talking to God

and offering that time to God.

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So I always am the one to start in prayer.

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you want to set that example and give

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people the confidence, that this is a

space where they can do that, and that

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there's no judgment and that it doesn't

have to be this perfect, fancy prayer.

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Um, and it can just sound like

you talking to God, right?

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After that opening prayer, then

we jump into our scripture time.

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So I'll pick a passage ahead of time.

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with a gospel story because those

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are much more easy, I feel like,

to digest and to discuss than

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something in the Old Testament.

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There's a lot more context that's needed

for the Old Testament and a lot more

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translation that's needed of understanding

how ancient Greek or Aramaic words.

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Actually, you know, what they actually

mean and translate it to, so my, my

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recommendation is start with the gospels.

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Start there and start with Jesus's

words , that he spoke and that he taught.

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So Flexio Divina is reading a passage

multiple times and then reflecting

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and praying with it and seeing how

God is speaking to you through the

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passage and then taking it to prayer.

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So we do.

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A version of that in Bible study

by reading, you know, I'll pick

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out a passage and then reading

it slowly, multiple times.

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Usually I'll start out and I'll

read it once out loud, and then I'll

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give a little space for silence,

and then I'll have everybody read

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it on their own a second time.

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Um, so usually I just prompt that, right?

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So I say, okay, we're

gonna read this passage.

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Um, and then I read it once I leave

a little space for silence, and then

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I say, now read it a second time, and

really just let that sink in right then.

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I leave time for silence for

people to read it on their own.

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Usually I'll read it on my own in silence,

so I know about how long it takes, um,

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for people to read, and I know about

how long of, silence to leave there.

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So.

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I do that and then we

wanna read it a third time.

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Sometimes I ask someone else to read

it out loud too, for that third time,

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just to get people comfortable again

with talking in the group, reading

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scripture, all that kind of stuff.

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Um, I really like doing that.

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And that way I'm not the only one.

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Talking and people get used

to other people talking.

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And so I'll usually choose someone

before I read the first time.

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I'll be like, okay, this is

the passage we're gonna read.

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Um, I'm gonna read it once out loud,

then we're gonna read it on our own

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and then we'll read it a third time.

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Does anybody want to

volunteer to read it.

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Aloud that third time.

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And there might be a little of a pause.

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Just get comfortable with the pause.

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Wait for someone to volunteer, or

you can ask somebody if nobody's

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volunteering and be like, Hey, Becky.

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Would you like to read it?

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Usually people won't say no.

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So I don't think I've ever

really had to call on someone.

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I think someone eventually, eventually

offers, so then for the third time

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they go and I always tell them

like, I'm just gonna leave silent.

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You pick when you wanna jump in and read.

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Feel free to leave as much, you

know, space in between as you want.

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And then they'll go in and

read the passage a third time.

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And then after that we start the

discussion and I usually ask, what's

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standing out to you in this passage?

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Like, what's resonating?

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What's lingering in your heart?

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These questions, I feel

like are a low intimidation.

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Type of question.

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People don't need to

know the right answer.

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They don't need to know

scripture like the back of their

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hand to answer this question.

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They don't need to have any sort of

theological training or knowledge

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or know how to interpret it.

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They just need to share what

strikes them and everybody can have

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and can form an opinion, right?

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So it should be pretty low

stakes to ask that question and

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to get the conversation going.

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And especially if this is your first

time leading a group, I just wanna say

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that one of the best skills is getting

comfortable with silence and realizing

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that you don't need to rush to fill it.

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You need to let it sit and

it's okay to let it sit.

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And if you struggle with this and

you kind of just like wanna jump in

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in the silence or like answer the

question yourself, I encourage you

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to just like pray a slow hail Mary in

your head and give people that space.

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I think usually someone will

eventually speak, right?

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If not on the off chance

set, nobody speaks.

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You are free to jump in and be like, I

have something, I'm happy to go first.

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Um, and just say that like calmly

and, and, and casually, right.

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No judgment that nobody's talking,

but just kind of be like, it's okay.

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Like, I have something I can share

and, and I can go first and by

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you just saying I can go first.

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It just communicates like, I'm gonna

go now I'm gonna go first, but like.

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Someone's gonna go second,

you know what I mean?

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Like more people are gonna go after me.

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But I'll take that

brave step and go first.

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And if your group's a little bit more

quiet or a little shy or not comfortable

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with each other yet you doing that will

give them more confidence and I almost

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can guarantee you that after you do that,

someone else will step in and speak.

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And then when someone shares,

I want you to affirm them.

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I want you to engage with what

they shared, because this helps

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create a conversational culture

instead of everybody just

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going in a circle or just like.

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Popcorning somebody else, and just

having it be kind of this more like

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structured thing where someone says

something, then there's a lot of silence,

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and then someone says something else,

like someone says what stood out to

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them, and then the next person goes,

and then it's just silent like you.

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Kind of interjecting after they've

shared to affirm what they've said

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or add on to what they've said or

offer, additional perspective to what

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they've said or just engage with it.

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Just be like, oh, like

that was really good.

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Thank you for sharing.

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That creates a culture of engagement

and conversation in the group.

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And it helps to kind of train your

small group and show an example of

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what it looks like to engage with

another participant's thought or

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opinion and what they were sharing.

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Um, and by you.

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Responding to them, you're showing people

like we can all respond to each other.

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We can have this be a conversation.

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It doesn't have to be like a presentation.

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It doesn't have to be you presenting

and then prompting people to talk

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and then you presenting again.

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Right?

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You're setting that culture of like,

we can all chat casually about this.

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This doesn't have to be this,

like really, you know, stiff

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conversation with a lot of structure.

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And I just encourage you

to come prepared yourself.

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I want you to pray with the passage

ahead of time and have like two to

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three points that stuck out to you

and two to three reflections ready to

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go so that if the conversation slows.

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You can keep it going and you should

definitely be sharing what stood out

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to you as well in the conversation.

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And if people are having a hard time

keeping the conversation going or if

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what they're sharing is just really short

and you're like, oh crap, we still have

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like 30 minutes left of bible study.

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What am I supposed to say?

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Having two to three.

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Points that you, that stood out to you.

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We'll just continue to keep the

conversation going so as there's

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a little bit more silence, you can

jump back in and say, oh, you know,

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like there's another part that

stuck out to me in, in this verse.

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Here's what stuck out

to me and here's why.

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What do you guys think about that?

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I love to end with the question after

I share a reflection because it invites

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the participant to engage once again and.

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Hopefully your Bible study like

wants to be there and wants to

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engage, and I think most of the time

if you're showing up to that, you

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do, but also as human beings like.

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We're just naturally lazy, right?

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And if we have the choice to sit

back or engaged, I think a lot of

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the times we opt for sitting back.

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And so if somebody, AKA, the leader is

just like chatting the whole time without

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ever prompting space for conversation,

it can be really easy as the participant

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to just kind of sit back and listen and

just be like, wow, this is super nice.

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I heard Mari talk for 35 minutes

today about X, Y, Z in the Bible.

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Ending your reflections with

like a question that prompts the

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participants to join in again, is

really good to keep conversation going.

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Some things you can ask are, you

know, after you say your reflection

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and what do you think about that,

or how does that strike you, or

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how does that sit with you or.

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You share something that relates

to your life and then ask, how does

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this relate to your guys' life?

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Can you relate this back to your own life?

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And the more you meet, the more

these Bible studies accumulate,

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the more comfortable everybody's

going to get sharing with each

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other, opening up and entering into

discussion, which is, which is amazing.

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You grow with time.

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So be patient at the beginning.

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Once your group is more comfortable, then

you can move into more of a structured

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study, um, maybe a specific book of the

Bible you wanna learn more about, or

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a study guide from a trusted ministry.

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Um, something that's a little bit

more like catechetical or educational.

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And you can even pull your

group and let them help choose

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what you're gonna do next.

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And that's really great to do because

you wanna know , where is the group at?

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What are we feeling?

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Um, you wanna also kind of take note of

do you have all Catholics in your group?

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Do you have kind of a mix of

Christian denominations and Catholics?

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Um, and kind of know your audience and

know like, okay, if I have a mix, is

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there gonna be a lot of openness to do a.

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Bible study on the catechism

specifically about what the Catholic

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Church teaches, maybe, but I would

check in with people to see, right?

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Maybe people wanna learn more

about the Gospel of John.

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Maybe people wanna learn more about.

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The mass and what we do in the mass

and the different parts of the mass.

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I know that there's incredible Catholic

Bible studies that dive into topics like

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that, and I think you just have to know

your audience and see where they're at and

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what they're really ready to jump into.

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So, poll your audience.

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Maybe picking two or three that you

have done research beforehand and

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that you'd be comfortable leading.

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Send a little poll out or

after a Bible study night.

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Share a little bit about each and

then have people share kind of what

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they'd be interested in doing next.

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And I like to split the year up into two.

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So I start my Bible studies in

October, and then we go through May,

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and then we have a summer break.

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So October through January-ish, I will do

more low key things like Lexio, Davina, or

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maybe a book of the Bible that we're just

reading different chapters on, but not.

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A super educational

study and that's just me.

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There's not truly a

rhyme or reason for that.

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Um, I'm not saying that not

doing that is the wrong answer.

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You gotta know your group

and know what they need.

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But I think for me, that last

quarter of the year, I say quarter

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'cause I'm thinking about it in

like business terms, um, that.

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Those last three months of the year

are insanely busy for a lot of people,

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but especially for me and what I do for

work, it's the craziest time of the year.

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So I need to have like the easiest least

amount of prep during those months.

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Um, which is why Alexio Dina

is really amazing because

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it's just really easy prep.

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Versus a more content heavy Bible study

or educational Bible study is definitely

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going to require the leader to spend

more time with the content beforehand

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to really know the information, to

be able to lead on it well, right.

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Also, I just feel like that fall and

wintertime of the year is just like.

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Cozy, right?

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Everybody just wants to be cozy.

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And so that is setting the scene for,

for me, for my group, I feel like

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we get deep, we build relationship,

um, we, you know, share prayer.

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We just pray together.

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We just re.

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Scripture and pray together and have space

for peace in the middle of our weeks, um,

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which at the end of the year during the

holidays as well, gets really busy and

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I think people really appreciate that.

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And then in the spring, usually

January through, um, may, I'll

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do more structured Bible studies.

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So, let's see.

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Last year we did the crux from

focus, which is a really good, I

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would say beginner bible study, but.

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Anybody can do it because it's

just reiterating the truth of the

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gospel and the story of the gospel.

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Um, and going even deeper into that.

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So we've all heard the gospel.

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Well, that's actually not true.

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I didn't hear the gospel

actually like be shared with

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me until I became a missionary,

which was way later in my life.

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Um, I was born Catholic and nobody had

ever shared the gospel with me, so, um.

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Maybe not everybody has

heard, has heard the gospel.

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I would, I would bet to differ that

most Catholics probably haven't.

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And this Bible study shares the

message of the gospel and presents

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these fundamental faith, foundations

and teachings and truths that we might

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have heard growing up that we probably

didn't in our Catholic formation.

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But as adults, we come to see it with

new eyes, and with deeper understanding.

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So.

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Anyways, I'm getting sidetracked.

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I'll make sure to link different

bible studies that I recommend

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in the show notes, so I'll make

sure to link that one as well.

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Um, but yeah, then in the spring I kind of

jump into more content heavy Bible study.

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So anyways, you check in, you

pray, you get into your content.

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You discuss and then at the

end of each night, I encourage

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someone else to close in prayer.

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I want everybody to have practice

praying out loud and get comfortable

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with it because it's a skill that as

Christians, we need to be okay with.

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And I feel like.

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Catholics in general that I

have encountered are a little

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bit more intimidated by it.

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Um, I don't know.

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I just feel like it's not the

culture we really grew up in, but

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I think it is really important.

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I think a lot of us grew up in a culture

where religion and prayer is like really.

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Private thing.

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Um, and so it's uncomfortable

or awkward to say out loud.

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Um, but we wanna get rid of that.

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We wanna be able to pray out loud.

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It's so powerful.

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Um, Jesus says, we're two or more,

gather in my name, I am with you.

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And so in this opportunity, you have

to be gathered with multiple people.

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Pray, pray out loud.

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It is, it's so powerful and it's really,

it just builds you up and it builds up

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the church and it builds up community.

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So.

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Encourage someone to close in

prayer at first, no one will

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probably wanna do it because people

will be nervous and that's okay.

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Okay.

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Give a little space for silence again.

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And sometimes if nobody, if nobody

volunteers, you might gently ask

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someone like, Hey, would you be

open to praying us out tonight?

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Becky?

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I'm just, I don't even

have a friend named Becky.

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You guys, I just keep

using Becky as an example.

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Um, and always remind them when you

prompt them to pray or when you're asking

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someone to volunteer to pray, always

remind them that there's no judgment.

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It doesn't have to sound fancy.

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You're not looking for anything specific.

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There's no right or wrong way to do it.

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You just wanna encourage them

to talk to God like a friend.

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Over time, your group will get

more confident, women will get more

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confident, and that's just part of

the formation and the discipleship

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that is happening in this group.

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'cause this group isn't just about

showing up and leaving, it's about

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growing as disciples and even

building up leaders in your group.

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Right?

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Because the, the point of

bible study is one to have.

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Faith-filled community

in your life, right?

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To have those sisters in Christ that

you can walk with because community

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is so important for our walk of faith.

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Two, is to grow in our own faith

and be strengthened in our own

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faith and knowledge of the faith.

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And then three, to be built

up and to be sent out like.

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What is the purpose of growing in faith

and fervor for your faith if you are

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not gonna go out and share it, right?

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Like of course your relationship with God

is important, but also we want that to

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set a fire in our soul so that then we

can go out and share about that incredible

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relationship with God, with other people.

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So that.

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Everybody can have that.

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So the purpose of this Bible study

as well , for you as a leader, is

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to build people up and help them

grow as disciples and leaders.

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Now, don't let that scare you.

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Don't let that think that you're not

capable of leading a Bible study, okay?

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The Lord's going to equip you, and if

he's calling you to lead a Bible study,

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and if you feel that nudge, he's going

to give you the tools that you need.

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To be able to lead well and

to be able to build people up.

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And there's a lot of resources

that I can share too.

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Um, and I'll link them in the show notes.

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So just some practical things.

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Plan for one to two hours,

depending on your group.

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I feel like when I led.

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College students, usually 60

minutes was kind of the max

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time that we allotted for it.

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If it was a really good group that

was really engaged and bought in,

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sometimes it would go 90 minutes or

people would just stay late and chat.

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That's awesome.

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Try and get through your content in the

first 60 minutes and then spend time

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hanging out with anybody that wants

to stay, um, for women in that next.

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Stage of life after college,

maybe twenties and thirties.

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I feel like two hours

usually works really great.

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Um, my group meets for about two

hours, sometimes two and a half hours.

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And that's usually because we spend

the first 30 and the last 30 minutes

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just hanging out because this is

also like our weekly friend time.

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So, um, feel free to just have it go

longer if you feel like that's what

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your group needs and is open to.

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But you wanna start and end on time

because it builds consistency and

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it builds trust, and you want to

be consistent with doing it in the

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timeframe that you said that you would.

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Right.

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If you said it's gonna be a

weekly Bible study, you need

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to commit to doing it weekly.

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If you said that you're going to do

a biweekly study, stick to biweekly.

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Really try not to miss something.

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If you can't make it, ask someone

else to host or lead that night

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instead of just canceling.

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I try to rarely cancel a Bible study

because I want this to be a consistent

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space people know that they can go to.

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Um, so I usually ask someone else

in the group if they're willing to

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host and lead Bible study for that

night, and that way people can keep

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meeting without skipping a beat.

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And if I'm outta town for some reason, on.

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A weekday night, Bible

study doesn't stop right.

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And people know that they can rely on

that in that space and in this group.

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Um, I think that's all I've got for you.

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I think those are all my tips right now.

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I know leading can feel intimidating

at first, or you might feel

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like, who am I to do this?

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I don't know the Bible well, I

don't know my faith good enough.

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I'm not a missionary.

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Look, when I first led

a Bible study, I was.

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A sophomore in college and I didn't know

everything I know about the faith now.

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I was never trained in how to

lead a Bible study and I felt very

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under equipped, and I felt very

underqualified to lead a Bible study.

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I was like, I'm just a girl that really

loves Jesus, but I don't know the Bible

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and I probably don't know church teaching

as well as maybe this other person.

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Um, but it's not about.

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Being the one who knows the most in

the room, it's literally just about

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being someone who has a heart for

God and a heart for God's people.

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Like you wanna have a heart for God.

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You wanna know, and love, and

serve the Lord and make an effort

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in your life to be growing in

your relationship with the Lord.

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You guys know, I say this literally

almost every podcast, but you need

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to be praying every day, especially

if you're leading a Bible study or

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if you're hoping to lead other people

or preparing to lead other people.

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You need to be praying every day.

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You need to be cultivating a prayer

life, 15 to 30 minutes a day where

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you are talking to God, where you are

journaling your prayer, where you are

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reading scripture, where you are leaving

space in silence for God to talk to

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you where you are going to adoration.

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This is going to make it so that you

are pouring out from an overflow of

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:

what the Lord is pouring into you.

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You can't serve people well if

it's not coming from the Lord.

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Right?

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And you can't evangelize well

if it's not coming first from

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what God is pouring into you.

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And so let God equip you.

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He will.

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He will equip you.

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:

You don't need to be a theologian, you

don't need to have all the answers.

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:

Um, people literally are

just craving a friendship.

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:

People are craving community.

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:

People are craving

honesty and authenticity.

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And people are very interested to open

up the word of God because it's an

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:

intimidating book, um, that a lot of

people haven't actually read through.

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Even if they are Catholic or Christian,

they've maybe read snippets here

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:

and there or just really heard it

in mass, um, or at church, but.

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They really just want a space to

build friendships and to finally open

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:

this holy book that they know can

be so powerful in their lives and.

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:

And just lean in.

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Just lean in to the

process and edit as you go.

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If something didn't work out, if you

know, maybe the questions you were asking

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:

were too broad or not specific enough

or whatever, like you just edit as you

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:

go and you kind of take note of like,

wow, that was a really good Bible study.

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:

Like, why was that so good?

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:

Or, Ooh, this one fell short.

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:

Like this one kind of felt

a little awkward, like.

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:

Why was that?

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:

You know, kind of do audits

afterwards, um, just to yourself to

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:

be like, okay, how can I improve?

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:

How can I grow?

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:

But don't wait to be, quote unquote,

the perfect leader before you

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:

lead, because leading is what's

going to make you better at it.

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:

And so you just gotta jump in.

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Bible study.

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is amazing you guys.

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:

Small groups are amazing.

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:

Some of the most life-giving friendships

I have ever had has come from small

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groups, women who know my heart,

who know my faith, who walk with

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:

me through both joy and suffering.

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And I want that for you too.

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:

And I know that you can create

that in your community too.

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:

So if you've been waiting for it.

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:

Or if you've been waiting for a sign,

this is your moment, this is your sign.

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:

Just start.

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Start by inviting a few women,

even if it's two other women

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:

and it's just three of you.

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:

Don't think that you can't do bible

study 'cause you don't have a huge group.

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:

Start with whoever can

come and just do it.

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Just open the doors to your home.

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Pray with each other, build

friendship, open scriptures, and

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:

trust that God is gonna do the rest.

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:

Okay?

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Pray about your Bible study.

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Surrender to him and trust all to him.

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And trust that he's going

to take care of the rest.

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:

Oh man, that was a good one.

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:

Thanks so much for joining

me today, you guys.

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:

I really hope that this gave you

good encouragement and a game plan.

785

:

Okay, now you have a game

plan to move forward.

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:

So if you do start a group

after this episode, you know

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:

that I wanna hear about it.

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Send me a message on Instagram and

tell me how it's going, or feel free

789

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to DM me and ask me any questions

of like what to do or tactics or.

790

:

Whatever questions you

have, ask me on Instagram.

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:

I'd love to help you.

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:

And if this episode was helpful, share

it with a friend who might be ready to

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:

also step out and start a group too.

794

:

Or if you're like, I really can't start

one by myself, which I know you can,

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:

but if you really feel like you can't

find a buddy to start it with and you

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:

share the responsibility and you switch

off hosting , and you can both listen

797

:

to this episode and then get coffee

and plan your Bible study together.

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:

Okay.

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:

Now we're gonna move into the last segment

of this episode, which is ever be answers.

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:

This is where I answer one of your

questions every single episode, and then

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:

at the end I'll let you know what the.

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:

Other questions are that our Patreon

community, the Kingdom Club is asking,

803

:

and then we'll answer the rest in the

after party episode, which is our bonus

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:

episode for our Kingdom Club community.

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:

So if you wanna be a part of that, the

link to join will be in the show notes.

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But let's kick it off with the question.

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This is very fitting for

the month of the rosary.

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The question is, how do you make

praying the rosary a daily habit?

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I used to think praying the rosary daily

was impossible or just way too much

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because I used to feel like the rosary

just was a super, super long prayer.

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I thought it took like 30 minutes

and that there was no way I

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could fit that into my day.

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And you know what?

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:

I was wrong and.

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It's funny, I, when I started praying

the Rosary Daily or building it as

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:

a Hobbit, it just happened like one

day to the next, and it was because

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I read the 15 Promises of the Rosary.

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When I read those those promises,

and I can't even remember

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:

where I came across them.

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:

I came across 'em somehow

and I read 'em and I.

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Realize that these promises were

so good were just way too good

822

:

for me not to lean into that.

823

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Um, I will make sure to link these also

in the show notes so you can read 'em.

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And I read those and I was like, you're

telling me that if I pray the rosary every

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:

day with, with real faith and devotion,

Mary promises these 15 things to all

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:

those who'd faithfully do this, I'm so in.

827

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So first step is to go read those

so that you can have conviction of,

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of praying the rosary every day.

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And then two, once I realized I could pray

the rosary in 15 minutes, I could give

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:

15 minutes of my time to the Lord, right?

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I spend.

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At least an hour scrolling

on my phone, if not more.

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or I spend an hour watching a show at

the end of the day or something, right?

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:

Like we spend time on some sort of

screen, whether that's social media

835

:

or YouTube or TV, every single day.

836

:

So I knew I can give 15 minutes of my

day to the Lord, and I, I allowed that

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:

to be a truth in my heart, um, and a

promise that I wanted to make to the

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Lord that he was worthy of my time,

and even 15 minutes of my entire day.

839

:

Two.

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I know that to build a habit, you need

to be doing it consistently every day.

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And when I was first starting, I

wasn't doing it consistently every

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:

day, and it wasn't a habit in my life.

843

:

And so I needed to somehow

make it something that I

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:

could go back to every day.

845

:

And to do that, I habit stacked.

846

:

So I chose an action that I already had

as a habit in my day-to-day life, and

847

:

I stacked the rosary on top of that.

848

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When I started to do this, I

had a 15 minute commute to work.

849

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Um, this is when I was a missionary,

and that happened to be the

850

:

perfect time to pray my rosary.

851

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So every single day while I was

driving to work, I prayed my rosary.

852

:

Right now, what it looks like for me

is getting ready for bed, taking off

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:

my makeup, doing my skincare, brushing

my teeth, getting all tucked into bed.

854

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That usually takes me

around 15 to 20 minutes.

855

:

And so I will play my rosary on

hallow or just pray it on my beads.

856

:

Um, and I stack that with

my nighttime routine.

857

:

So for me, that has been the

most helpful thing to, to

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:

consistently pray it every day.

859

:

Um, I.

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:

I would love, honestly, to get to

a point in my life where I just sit

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down and, and pray the rosary and just

get on my needs and pray the rosary.

862

:

And so, um, I think I'm gonna

try and do that this October.

863

:

'cause this October I'm praying a daily

rosary for the month of the rosary.

864

:

but anyways, yeah, habit stack.

865

:

Habit stack is basically like my hack

for praying the rosary every day.

866

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And after a while it just

becomes second nature.

867

:

And the day that you don't do

it, you're gonna notice and

868

:

you're kind of gonna miss it.

869

:

You're gonna feel that like hole,

that not praying the rosary had left

870

:

in your day and in your heart, and

you're gonna wanna go back to it.

871

:

So

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:

that's my advice for you.

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