Episode 32

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23rd Oct 2024

32: Ultimate Girl Chats | Megan Wells & Cecelia Brennan

Join Mari Wagner on the Ever Be podcast as she hosts Meg and Cece (hosts of the What in the Dang Heck podcast) for an engaging and heartwarming episode on faith, friendships, and womanhood. Explore the evolution of friendships from college to adulthood, the importance of shared values, and personal stories that highlight the challenges and joys of maintaining meaningful connections. The conversation includes topics like building confidence, navigating dating experiences, and cherishing life's memorable moments, all while emphasizing a Christ-centered life. Tune in for laughter, insights on christ centered living.

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Transcript
Speaker:

Hey, I'm your host, Mari Wagner,

and you're listening to the ever be

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podcast where faith meets lifestyle.

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I'm so excited you're here, whether you're

a new listener or a longtime follower,

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I know there's something here for you.

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Pull up a chair and listen in for

insightful real life conversations

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and actionable steps on how to claim

the full life God created you for.

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If you're a woman desiring to live

a Christ centered life in today's

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modern world, then this is for you.

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Welcome to Ever Be.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

All righty, everybody.

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Happy Wednesday.

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Today we have two of my dear,

dear girlfriend, Cece and Megan.

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And right before we started recording

this, we were just laughing because

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we've chatted several times on their

podcast, but now it's kind of a fun

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little full circle moment that I get

to interview them on my podcast now.

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So welcome ladies.

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

So fun.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Thanks for having us.

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I'm like, yay.

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I don't have to do any of the

work of the editing or anything.

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Like just sit back and hang out.

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Cece's like, this is

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what Meg gets every week.

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What the heck?

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah,

you just get to be your funny little

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selves and I'll do all the heavy lifting.

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So have fun.

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So ladies, give us a brief introduction.

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I'm sure a ton of my

listeners know who you are.

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I know that a ton of my listeners

found out about my podcast because of

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what in the ding heck your podcast.

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So there may not be a lot of people

who don't know you, but just in case,

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why don't you give us a quick little

synopsis of who the heck you are?

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I

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for it.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

right.

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Welcome, I'm Cecilia Brennan.

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Um, feel so weird to say Brennan.

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I know, it still feels

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weird for you to say that.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

never, I, TBH, I'm always like

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Cecilia Pappas in my head.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Me too, because I haven't

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legally changed it yet.

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So

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: And

she just never sees her husband anyway.

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So it's like,

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Same.

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I've been married for three

and a half years and I still

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haven't legally changed my name.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I will say though, I probably have

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more of an excuse than you Mari,

because I have a visa to Japan that

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like, I need to keep my last name for.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: I

have no, I have, I have zero excuse.

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So I try, I travel outside

the country quite often.

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And that's been my excuse, but I do

hear that like, you can still travel

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with your maiden name passport.

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So I really just need

to get my ish together.

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That's just the bottom line.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: if

there was someone to like, hire to do all

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of those things, Things that need to be

done when it comes to changing the name.

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I think I would seriously

consider investing in it.

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Like I would forego giving, getting

like a cavity filled or something

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in order to like have that done.

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So.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

Anyways, your intro.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

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Okay.

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So hello.

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Um, Catholic wife and now mother

of a three month old baby girl.

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Um, military wife, husband's in the Navy.

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I spent half my time in Japan, the other

half, um, middle of nowhere, Kentucky.

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And, um, yeah.

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Yeah, I've been, you know, podcast

host for four years with Meg over

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here and then, um, you know, do

the whole social media thing.

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And then I, um, own a culture, uh,

I'm co founder of a coaching and

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consulting firm, um, where we teach

leadership skills in corporate settings.

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So, um, yeah, that's me, Meg.

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

She's a boss, babe, in other words.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: She is.

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We all know that.

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Um, I think it's so funny too, that

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we're on this podcast together.

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Cause it's just like the

package deal every time,

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Yeah.

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just the wet and the dang

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heck, you know, crosses over.

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Um, my name is Megan Wells.

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Um, my name has been

changed since I got married.

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Um, I am a mother, a wife.

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to, well, no, a wife, a mother,

to Um, that was backwards.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

Wife to one,

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I know,

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: to

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: to

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: three.

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mother to three.

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I almost said wife to three.

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Oh,

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: I know,

I was like, where is she going with this?

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: She

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That's not a good

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

everyone, so.

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Context.

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idea.

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Um, what else do I do?

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Um, I do the social media

stuff as well as Cece and Mari.

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Um, that's honestly how we all met.

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I do photography, I do,

uh, podcasting with CeCe.

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Uh, home birth, that feels like

something that people know me for now.

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So I feel like that's just like, that's

also what I do every, you know, 18 months.

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I don't know.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

Throw it on the resume,

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I guess.

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It's about time.

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Um, so yeah, that's me.

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A military wife too, but

hopefully not forever.

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So.

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because I'm divorcing my husband, but

because we're divorced in the military.

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Yeah.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: about

really just like Girl talk, like just fun

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girl chats, because I feel like that's a

lot of what your podcast is like and what

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a lot of people love about your podcast.

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It's they just kind of get to be that kind

of fly on the wall, but also just kind

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of feels like you're actually chatting

with you guys and not just eavesdropping

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on like your best friend conversation.

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And I love that you guys do this because.

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Catholic women need to hear from other

Catholic women and Christian women need

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to hear from other Christian women.

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And just like, what are the

kinds of topics they talk about?

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Like, what are their hearts like?

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What is their perspective like on,

uh, friendships, dating, marriage,

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world career, like dreams and

aspirations, like just kind of to

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hear your unique perspective as a.

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Wonderful Catholic woman.

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I feel like it's going to be so

just fruitful for me and for other

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listeners to hear about it too.

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So we're going to get into some

really fun girly girl topics.

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Um, and we really wanted to record

this in person at a slumber party, but

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that's just not feasible because we

all live in three different States.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: And

Mari was like, Mari was like, can we do

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it like, later and like, have cocktails?

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I'm like, I'm not available

later, but I will have a cocktail

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at two o'clock if you want.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: I'm

like, we're going to chat about like

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boys and first kisses and it's 1 p.

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m.

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over here, but all good.

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And then I'm just going to

go back to work after this.

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Right.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Okay.

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But I do want to start off with girl

groups and like girl friendships.

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Um, Friendships with other women

and friend groups in general.

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Cause I feel like that's an

experience all women have.

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Um, and I think I don't want to

generalize, but I would venture to say at

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one point or another, we've all struggled

with friendships with other women.

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Um, whether that be with a best

friend, losing a friend, uh, maybe

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like having a friend group or feeling

like you don't have a friend group.

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Um, and I think that growing up, at

least the way I saw things in the media

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we consumed when we were like, you know,

Growing up was mostly like Disney channel.

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We didn't really have,

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like the minute media we consumed.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: like

in Disney channel, like the girls, like

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they have their girl, their girl gang,

you know, like they have their crew.

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Um, and that might be true for you.

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That might also not be true for you.

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And I think there's actually more

women that I've talked to more and

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more lately that like, you know,

Didn't grow up with that experience

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of like really close girlfriends, even

though it's something we all desire.

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So I kind of just want to hear your,

your personal experience on that,

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on like, what have girl friendships

been like for you over the years?

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Um, yeah, let's just start there.

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don't know, well I was gonna say, mine's

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really unique because I moved every two

years my entire life, and I still do.

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And so, the girl friendships

were almost always teammates.

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Cause I was home schooled too, and so it

was like, alright, you got your siblings.

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And you got your soccer teammates

every time you moved somewhere.

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I think made it hard for me.

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When I got older, especially when I was

in college, I noticed the difference

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between me and some of my roommates

and teammates still in college, were

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able to open up and be vulnerable

on a level I never had with friends.

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Almost because they were used to that,

like, dependency or like that long term

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relationship that I had never experienced

and mine was always bit superficial as

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far as like, okay, you have a teammate

for two years, then you move to another

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place, have a teammate for two, you know,

um, and so the team was great because it

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was my immediate friend group that I had

stuff in common with, but I didn't learn.

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How to have an emotional, vulnerable,

intimate relationship with someone

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through that, especially with women.

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Cause I feel like if you don't learn

that, then you run on the line of

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like being judgmental or like, know,

just really shallow, quick to judge.

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You don't have an outlet to

express these things freely and

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easily if you don't practice them.

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Um, I know CeCe, I mean, you can go ahead.

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I'm immediately thinking of someone

that you're close friends with to this

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day that you went through school with.

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I don't know the depth of

y'all's friendship, but.

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So, okay.

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I would say I'm more like a Hannah

Montana who like had, you know, Emily

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and Oliver as her friends, you know,

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah,

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it wasn't like a massive group, but

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it was like my good friends, you know?

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And I mean, in high school, you know,

I did have the big, in cheerleader, you

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know, you just have different group, but

I always had different groups of friends,

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you know, have my student council group

of friends, my like, Cheerleader group

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of friends and then my more so like

friends that went to different schools

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: yeah.

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always like to have friends in different

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pockets, and I'm still the same way most

of my friends are long distance and that's

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okay because I move a lot because you

know the military and I, I love that.

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Like, I hate that they're long

distance, but it's worth it.

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And so I like to, I hate to use the

word collect, but like really keep those

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friendships close because choosing it.

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It's not a friendship out of convenience.

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It's a

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of like deep love for them.

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Um, but.

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One of my best friends, Jordan, um, we

actually went to high school together and

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we did not like each other in high school,

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Well,

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the first two, three years of high

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school, um, we were just like low

key kind of mortal enemies because

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we always dated the same guys.

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And I was like, Like,

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It's coming back.

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Well, that'll do it when you're 16,

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And then her parents like moved

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over the border to like a different

district and she switched schools.

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And then we became best friends

once we were at different schools.

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once you're dating different guys.

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Distance, yeah.

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you know, distance makes

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the heart grow fonder.

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And, um, then she ended up being, you

know, the matron of honor, my wedding.

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So, um, I'm really good at

long distance friendships.

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But as far as like, I would love to

get better at in person friendships,

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of me is like, oh my gosh, we've

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always talked about how sick it

would be if we had like connecting

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backyards and now I'm hearing this

and I'm like, maybe, maybe not, but I

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maybe

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maybe not.

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good for us.

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What about you, Mari?

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Were you more of like girl gang,

still hang out with those girls from

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high school or more, more seasonal?

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. I'm similar to UCC where I had a lot of

friends in a lot of different pockets.

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I've always been kind of

like your social butterfly.

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I love people.

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Like, I've always kind of had like

the more the merrier kind of mindset.

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Um, and so I think like deep

inside, and this is why I started

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this conversation, this phase.

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Cause I feel like growing

up, like I always wanted that

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like core group of girls.

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Like I wanted those like girls that

are like with me through everything

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and you grow up together and do

everything and all this stuff.

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And I remember hearing my parents

tell me like growing up, like they're

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just kind of realist sometimes.

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And they're just like, you're not

going to have these friends forever.

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Like these friends aren't going

to be here with you forever.

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Like you're, you're the only people that

are with you forever is your family.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: like.

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As a fourth grader, that sucks to hear.

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You know, you're like, no, my best

friend is my best friend for life.

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What are you talking about?

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And then even as a senior in

high school with my new best

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friends, I was like, you're crazy.

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Like we're going to have Thanksgiving

with our kids together one day.

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And then like, I don't talk

to those people anymore.

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And then there's even some people

in college that I'm super, I was

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super close with that aren't around.

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And so I think that my

perspective has shifted.

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Like while my heart.

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Is always kind of like in this mindset

of like, I love deep friendships.

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I just like, I love deeply as a person.

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And so like, I love connecting

deeply with different women and

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like having women in your corner.

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Um, I think I've, I've sort of shifted

to knowing that like, for me, depth is

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Ultimately more important than quantity

now, whereas growing up, I felt like I

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was really focused on quantity of like, I

want the big friend group and I did have

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friends in a lot of different pockets and

I felt like that was really fun during

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the school year because you have a lot

of friends and a lot of classes and a

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lot of extracurriculars and then summer

kind of hit and I'm like, Why don't I

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have a lot of people to hang out with?

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Because people have their crews.

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And I would say like my, my like

solid people were my dance team,

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because like you were saying, like,

like you just spend so much time

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with your team, you train with them.

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And that's probably like the

people that you're spending more

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in depth time with than you're

just like class friends, you know?

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Um, but after I graduated high school,

like I'm not on the dance team anymore.

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And so we kind of split up.

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Stopped keeping up, you know,

as close of a relationship.

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So I think I've just kind of seen waves

and seasons of friends come in and out.

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Um, and so I think that my heart

posture towards like friendships has

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evolved over the years and still I'm

like, I'm willing to give it my all.

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I'm willing to invest like in another

friend, you know, that I see that like.

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There's a lot of alignment and like,

we really like it off and everything.

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And like our morals or values or goals,

like I'm going to, I'm going to go

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all in, but I've kind of understood,

like, it's not always going to be

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reciprocated or it's not always going to

make sense for like a lifelong friend.

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And that's okay.

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It's okay to have those

seasonal friendships.

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I think, um, it's kind of my experience.

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things that you said, too, was the

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alignment, and I think that's been the

biggest one for me to realize going

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through high school and college, and

now, like, the Or quality over quantity.

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And then the alignment thing, if we're

like the closest friends that I have

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are all Catholic shocker, they're

all long distance and I don't think

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like growing up, I was just kind of

like, yeah, I'm Catholic, but like.

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That doesn't really play a role.

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And it's like, no, as I've gotten older

and I've, you know, actually committed

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more to my faith and had taken ownership

over it, I've realized, no, the closest

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relationships are those that want

more for me than just here on earth.

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And it's like, that's, that's worth.

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distance Cece's talking about.

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That's worth, you know, the phone calls

or the different time zones or the

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less quantity, like having less of them

and just accepting that those friends

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that you thought you were going to

have Thanksgiving with and Christmas

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with and, you know, have your kids

be best friends and whatnot are, are

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going to go and they're going to leave.

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And that's, you know, you have

to accept that, but it is nice

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knowing how deep the faith can go.

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And even Avery, my husband who

converted, he's like, there's this

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level that you can't go past unless

they also share in the faith.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah.

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And it's like, yeah, when you find

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that in women, it's, it's powerful.

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It is.

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And it moves mountains.

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It changes your life.

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And so

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: It does,

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

don't like changes your life.

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That sounds so cheesy, but changes your

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: though.

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I think it does, especially for

women like us who like the faith

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is the central part of our life.

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So there's a lot that's going to be

missing in the conversation and in the

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things you talk about and the things

you do in your lifestyle and all these

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things, if that part isn't shared.

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Um, so I feel like that kind of leads

into like, what qualities do you feel

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like you look for most in a friend?

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Obviously, I feel like we've established

like a strong faith, at least for me, I

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feel like it's something that I feel like.

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Has been a common denominator in all my

closest friendships, like even people

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that I have been close with for a long

time, like the level of intimacy and

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the relationship and depth and trust

and vulnerability, like, isn't there,

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even if we've been friends longer

than someone that I just met that does

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share that, like, faith component.

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Um, so besides faith, what

other values do you feel like

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you're looking for in a friend?

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

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Faith, absolutely a given.

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Um, I mean, humor is

like really big for me.

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Um, just being able to like be

normal, you know, like sit back.

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I mean, I, I really.

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When I think about like a good friend,

I'm like, I have to look like a

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decent human to get to FaceTime them?

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Like, no.

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they are a really great friend.

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Like, I don't know.

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I feel like I have these criteria, right?

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And even like when I think about a fun

activity, like, could I have a fun time

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Like going and tiking with my good friend.

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Yes.

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Every single one of my good friends.

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Yes.

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and I know there's going to be

different friends that you do

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different things with, right?

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Not every friend has to

fill every single pocket.

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mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

to like fulfill all the hobbies that

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you like and everything you need, right?

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That's why you have friends.

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So, um, I kind of look

at, is it like that?

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Like one friend isn't going

to do everything I need.

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Like there's some friends I go to for

advice on certain things and other

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friends I go to when I'm like, I have this

really funny video I need to show you.

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Or I'm like, okay, this weird

thing's happening to my skin.

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Like,

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

you know, and everyone has those

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different friends for everything.

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So I know I'm not fully answering your

question as far as qualities, but keeping

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in mind that not every friend needs to,

you know, do everything for you because

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that's why you have, you know, a handful.

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Um, but yeah, as far as qualities,

I'm like, really, really big

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being there when I need them.

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And I know

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah,

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

there.

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Like I don't expect to be my friend's

priority, but there are certain times

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where I'm like, are you going to pick

up my phone call when I need you?

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And it's like, when

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

and it's like Megan's not

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so there's literally a time.

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I think it was when you found out

you were pregnant with Stassi.

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:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

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:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: You

literally called me and I didn't answer.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: I

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

found out like third on your list.

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Cause I didn't answer the phone call.

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I was like,

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:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

onto the next,

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

he's not going to be there for me.

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squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

you actually, all my friends found out

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before my husband, cause he was deployed.

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So, um, but so I think keeping that in

mind has been really helpful because

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some people might be like, well, I

don't really have that best friend.

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It's like, it's okay not to have

that one singular best friend.

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:

I love sharing my life

with a handful of ladies.

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:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I think to echo what you said,

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people that are willing and able

to inconvenience themselves for you

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:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

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squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

is like a telltale sign.

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Um, and then the other one is, um.

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:

What do they, we've talked about this

on our podcast actually, what do they

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talk about and how do they talk about

things in their life, like positivity

426

:

wise, like if they are constantly

complaining about things, if they are,

427

:

you know, they nag their husband all

the time in front of me, if they, you

428

:

know, whatever, I'm like, mmm, nope.

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is not going to be good

for me to be around.

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:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: hmm.

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:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Even if I have all the self control

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:

in the world and I want to positively

influence them, that's a risk.

433

:

And then you're, you know, you're,

you're risking your full cup

434

:

essentially to pour out into someone

who may not be willing to accept it.

435

:

And then you're empty and then you

turn around and go home and start

436

:

mimicking what you've been around.

437

:

So

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:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

True.

439

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

that's a big one for me.

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:

Yeah.

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:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: brought

that up Meg, because I think that, um,

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especially as we get older, like our

circles, I feel like get smaller, even

443

:

though we might meet a lot of people like

at work or mom's group or parish, like

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:

your true circle of friends, honestly.

445

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is smaller than it used to be.

446

:

And so that much more important to

really see, like, who are the people

447

:

that I'm surrounding myself with.

448

:

And if you think that those

kinds of people aren't affecting

449

:

your life and how you act, like

you're wrong because it does.

450

:

Like the saying is so true

that you become the five people

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you spend the most time with.

452

:

Um, And so I love that you brought that

up because in the end, I mean, I believe

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this very strongly about your spouse.

454

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Like he should build you up and help

you be a better version of yourself,

455

:

or at least like bring that desire

out of you to want to be like a

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saint and want to be holier and good.

457

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For your spouse.

458

:

Like, I think it's similar with friends.

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Like, maybe not to the same extent

of like, you know, as your husband,

460

:

but at the same time, like, do the

people around you, like inspire you

461

:

to be a better version of yourself?

462

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Or are you constantly kind of like

looking at the way they're living and,

463

:

and rethinking how, you know, you're

doing things or kind of like, I don't

464

:

know, bringing you down in a sense.

465

:

Um, so I love that you,

you touched on that.

466

:

And then CC, I so relate to what you're

saying about like, I didn't necessarily

467

:

connect it to like the word humor, but

just like the ability just to like have

468

:

a normal time with a friend and like

not have this pressure of like getting

469

:

dressed up or doing something specific.

470

:

I think that as you get older

as well, like adult friendships

471

:

are so much different than

friendships growing up because

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:

it's more, it's almost more formal.

473

:

Like it's almost more like a date.

474

:

Like when you're growing up, you just come

over to your friend's house and you like

475

:

sit on the couch and like laugh at stupid

things that you're doing all the time.

476

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And then like, you're like, Would

you like to come over for coffee?

477

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Or like, would you like to

have a dinner on my patio?

478

:

And it's just like different

experiences that you have with friends.

479

:

And it feels like it takes so much

longer in an adult friendship to get

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to the point where you're like, do

you want to just come over and watch

481

:

a show, you know, and, and just like

sit on my couch in your t shirt.

482

:

Like, why is that so much more

vulnerable now than it used to be?

483

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

So true.

484

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: Uh

485

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

You know, it's interesting too.

486

:

I found that, uh, my girlfriend and

I here, who's in the neighborhood,

487

:

she'll just walk over and we'll try

to do like one girls, girls night

488

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out or girls night in a month.

489

:

And lately we've been

doing like a craft at home.

490

:

That's like seasonal.

491

:

And I've noticed it's kind of like.

492

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If you guys ever played Legos or Playmobil

or Polly Pockets or something growing up,

493

:

where you're kind of like just talking to

each other and you don't really focus on

494

:

what you're talking about because you're

playing together, but you're just talking

495

:

and you're not thinking twice about it.

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:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah.

497

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

happens when you start doing

498

:

a craft with a girlfriend.

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You just like naturally just start

and you're not like thinking about it.

500

:

It's not formal.

501

:

It's not pressured.

502

:

Like if you were a fly on the wall,

you might even critique some of

503

:

the things you were saying because

you're just like Crafting together.

504

:

I'm like, wait, this is how we used

to hang out with friends all the time.

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:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Mm hmm.

506

:

Mm hmm.

507

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

was sharing with Megan.

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:

Um, I'm having a, like a flower

arrangement morning with, um, like a

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:

handful of girlfriends in a few weeks.

510

:

and that was something that I had made

a wreath with a friend last year and

511

:

she had like picked a bunch of magnolia

leaves from her backyard and we made

512

:

wreaths together and I enjoyed that so

much and I was like there is like you

513

:

were saying there's a magic that happens

when you're doing something with your

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:

hands and you're being creative but

also like You're just chit chatting

515

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah.

516

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

the beauty to chit chat, you

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:

know, it's like nothing too deep.

518

:

It's just like, I kind of need a break.

519

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: Yep.

520

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

um, so anyways, that was my kind of idea

521

:

around this like little get together

that I'm having, but even this is like,

522

:

you know, I sent out a cute invitation.

523

:

Like it did not need to be like this.

524

:

It could have been like,

come over and hang out.

525

:

But of course, as we know how I am, I had

526

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Aesthetics.

527

:

Aesthetics.

528

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

I was gonna say, we're all, we're

529

:

all kind of like that in a sense.

530

:

You, you're, you're fine on my end.

531

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

lagged.

532

:

So, so sorry if I'm talking over you guys,

533

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

no, you're fine.

534

:

Was I talking over someone?

535

:

Okay.

536

:

Well, I was just gonna say the only

other thing I would add, and I think

537

:

Cece mentioned it right before we

talked about chitchatting and crafts,

538

:

was, or maybe Mari, one of you guys

mentioned the importance of having

539

:

people that want to push you, like,

make you better about, Mari, you were

540

:

talking about your spouse and how

they should want to make you better.

541

:

And I think that that's a telltale sign of

like a good friend when like, CC can call

542

:

me out on my crap, and I can accept it,

and just say, mm, yep, okay, you're right.

543

:

And it's not like, she's better than,

or she's higher than, it's like, no,

544

:

she knows me well, I respect where

she's coming from, she respects me,

545

:

and she's calling me out on something

so that I can be better for it.

546

:

And I think that's like, When

you find that in a friend, you're

547

:

like, all right, you're never going

548

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

A hundred percent.

549

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

question.

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:

They can

551

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

What?

552

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

you and

553

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: Yes.

554

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

you did and be like, What about this?

555

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: Hmm.

556

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: what

do you, like, where, why did you do that?

557

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: Why?

558

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

Yeah, absolutely.

559

:

And I just, uh, honesty, I feel

like is what it comes down to.

560

:

Like so many people, I feel like in

today's world, we're just like weak,

561

:

you know, it's like, we can't handle the

562

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

563

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: handle

like difficult conversations or criticism.

564

:

And.

565

:

It's, it's honestly just so hurtful

to ourselves and other people that

566

:

we love if we're not like lovingly

holding each other to higher standards.

567

:

And I value that so much in a friend and

maybe that's just cause how I am as well.

568

:

And that might scare people, but

like, I appreciate that so much when

569

:

a friend is like, Hey, like I know

you and like, this isn't who you are.

570

:

Like, are you okay?

571

:

What's going on?

572

:

Do you want to chat about something?

573

:

Like, you know, how can I help you?

574

:

Um, and that's another thing my

parents would say, like, you're.

575

:

You know, your, your friends

aren't going to be the ones to

576

:

give you those hard hitting truths.

577

:

Only your family is.

578

:

And I feel like there's been few people

in my life besides my family that

579

:

I feel like have actually gotten to

that point in friendship where they're

580

:

like, I love you enough to like, have

this awkward conversation where like,

581

:

I'm kind of going to call you out.

582

:

And it makes a difference.

583

:

Yeah.

584

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

like, if I were to say, like, this

585

:

happened with my kids today, or this

happened with my husband, and, like, Cece

586

:

would be like, okay, but, You did X, Y, Z.

587

:

So like what, you know what I mean?

588

:

Like, is she can hold both sides.

589

:

Like she loves me enough that

she loves my family as well.

590

:

And is not just going to

sit here and go, Oh yeah.

591

:

How dare they blah, blah, blah.

592

:

You know?

593

:

And that's, that's a gift.

594

:

I feel like, especially in women

friendships, cause it's so easy to

595

:

do what's easy and what's natural

or, you know, for fear of out of

596

:

fear of being like, don't know,

blown off or like, I don't know.

597

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: But

598

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah

599

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

to me, too.

600

:

Like, you coming to me, Megan, and

being able to say those things is a

601

:

gift to me because I learn from it.

602

:

And it's the same thing, like, I feel

like maybe a few weeks ago, Megan,

603

:

we were texting and I was like, yeah,

I like said this thing to Patrick.

604

:

It was like, not my best moment.

605

:

Like,

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:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

607

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

it was like, we learn

608

:

from the crap that we do.

609

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

That we do.

610

:

We're both like, yeah, not good.

611

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

to be able to share your

612

:

worst moment and be like,

613

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

True.

614

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

yeah, I should have done this instead.

615

:

It's not because I've been in

those friendships where it is like,

616

:

my husband did this, but when it

switches to like, I did this to my

617

:

husband and it was really crappy.

618

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah,

619

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: It's

620

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

yeah, that's true.

621

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

this is helpful.

622

:

Like this is

623

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

624

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

mutually beneficial

625

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah,

626

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Mm-Hmm.

627

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

totally.

628

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

Absolutely.

629

:

Okay.

630

:

On the same vein, but

slightly different topic.

631

:

Comparison and confidence.

632

:

I wanna touch on this because these

are such, um, common, I feel like

633

:

struggles that as women we have either

that stem from difficult friendships

634

:

we're having or just because like as

women, like we want to be beautiful, we

635

:

want to like reach that full potential

like that the Lord has placed on

636

:

our hearts and sometimes comparing

ourselves to other women can hit.

637

:

Can, uh, damage, I almost said

harm and damage in the same word.

638

:

And I said harm,

639

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: Hmm,

640

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

our self-confidence and

641

:

we fall into comparison.

642

:

Um, what has been your experience

with these two feelings?

643

:

Mm-Hmm.

644

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Cece, you have a whole course.

645

:

You should, you should take it away.

646

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

647

:

Um, okay.

648

:

So.

649

:

One thing that comes

to mind is, is recent.

650

:

Um, with the three, three month old

baby, um, my husband's deployed.

651

:

So I've been, you know, doing this

whole thing by myself and, um, not to

652

:

invalidate all the people that have

came and helped me and let me survive.

653

:

But, um, you know, so something that

I didn't have confidence in was like

654

:

doing things in public with the baby.

655

:

Going grocery shopping, um, going

to the store to try on, you know,

656

:

jeans that fit, um, you know, going

like taking myself out for coffee.

657

:

Like these things that would have

been part of my normal day, I didn't

658

:

have confidence in doing, and it's

easy to compare, to every other

659

:

mother you see doing them, right?

660

:

So the way that I had to build my

confidence in doing that is simply by

661

:

just doing it the only thing that I

truly, truly believes time and time again,

662

:

that build, Confidence is competence

what you're doing, and you have to have

663

:

repetition to build competence in the

action to then be confident in doing it.

664

:

And so now, you know, going out in public.

665

:

Every single day, I get my butt out

and go out of the house every single

666

:

day with a baby because I knew that

I cannot function in society if

667

:

I'm nervous about being in public.

668

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

669

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I forced myself to go out and be

670

:

competent in how to do all these things.

671

:

How do I change my

baby's diaper on the go?

672

:

What do I do?

673

:

If she does this, like all these little

things to then build my confidence

674

:

and now last week I Drove an hour.

675

:

We went shopping and then I, uh, went

to a Mediterranean deli and sat outside

676

:

and had myself a drink and a salad with

a baby and like, I would have never

677

:

done that a month and a half ago, but on

purpose, I knew I needed to be competent

678

:

in what to do and how to do it, and so

I hope that it's not in terms of like

679

:

friendship, you know, it's a little

different, it's more of an internal

680

:

thing, but it is a process to build that.

681

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I was gonna say, it kind of piggybacks

682

:

what I was gonna say and what I did in

high school because I remember seeing

683

:

girls that just were so themselves.

684

:

they did not care and I was like drawn to

that because it's attractive and you're

685

:

like that's so cool How did you get there?

686

:

And I remember thinking like what if I

just fake it till I make it like what

687

:

if I just fake that i'm confident About

who I am and I just own who I am until

688

:

like I actually am and I think it's

it's very It's very much the same thing

689

:

you walk into a room with your head

held high Even if you're like, I don't

690

:

feel like my head should be held high.

691

:

Like this is very uncomfortable for me.

692

:

What are they thinking?

693

:

You still do it anyways.

694

:

And you do it over and over and over

again, that it becomes just like second

695

:

nature almost, um, as far as like

girlfriends though, in comparison, like.

696

:

That's kind of, I, for me, that goes

back to the positive and like negative.

697

:

Like, how do they talk?

698

:

What do they talk about?

699

:

What is it?

700

:

There's three things people talk about.

701

:

Is that what it was?

702

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah, it's either they talk about

703

:

people, things, or thought or ideas.

704

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Ideas.

705

:

Yeah.

706

:

And so if someone is just always talking

about other people, are like, I'm probably

707

:

not going to be good friends with them

because then we're just always going to

708

:

be comparing or things like if they're,

you know, if it's keeping up with the

709

:

Joneses kind of thing, you're always

comparing, but if it's ideas, like

710

:

that's something that's collaborative.

711

:

That's something that like.

712

:

You can go back and forth on, and it's

kind of just up here, so it's not, not an

713

:

inanimate object or person that you can

just judge and compare against, you know?

714

:

Um, and so those are the friendships

that I, like, turn towards more

715

:

than the other because of, happens

with comparison, the other two, I

716

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Mm-Hmm.

717

:

Yeah, that was so good.

718

:

CC.

719

:

I especially love your

breakdown of competence and

720

:

how that leads to confidence.

721

:

And I think that's such a, uh,

tangible tool to take away.

722

:

Cause I think that a lot of people just

feel like confidence is just like, you

723

:

either have it or you don't like, Oh,

I'm a confident, like, she's a confident

724

:

person, but like, I'm not when the

reality is like, it's so refreshing

725

:

to hear, like, you can build that up.

726

:

Like, It's not that you were just

born with it or you're not, like, it's

727

:

actually some, a skill you can grow in

and work on, um, and it ties into what

728

:

Megan is saying, like, the women that are

confident, like, are attractive, um, so.

729

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

It is.

730

:

It's beautiful.

731

:

A confident woman is beautiful.

732

:

And I know Megan mentioned it.

733

:

There's a free course that I have with

some of my, um, co workers, and I don't

734

:

know if I'll send it to you, Mario,

so you can put it in your show notes,

735

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah.

736

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

go to westofperfection.

737

:

com and under services,

you'll see courses.

738

:

And there's a, A online

course that's free.

739

:

It's like seven micro episodes and

it's called Confidence with Class.

740

:

So grab it.

741

:

I talk, we talk all about like how

to actually build that tangibly.

742

:

Um, so that might be helpful,

but it's free, so grab it.

743

:

Um.

744

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah.

745

:

That's awesome.

746

:

I love that.

747

:

So I guess my next question that kind

of relates to this is like, how do

748

:

you personally stay true to yourself

and confident in your values the

749

:

way that you've chosen to live your

life in a world that I feel like is

750

:

always pressuring women to conform?

751

:

I think a lot of the times

this is what it comes down to.

752

:

There are women that like have this

zeal and desire to be themselves,

753

:

to be like authentically Catholic.

754

:

Like, I think a lot of it comes down

to our like, Catholic and conservative

755

:

views that a lot of us share.

756

:

Um, but in a world where you're

constantly being like fought against

757

:

and you feel like you're kind

of running against the current a

758

:

little bit, like what gives you that

confidence to stay true to who you are?

759

:

Yeah.

760

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I'm the only one that has to live

761

:

with myself every single day.

762

:

I'm the only one that has to live

with the decisions that I make and the

763

:

values that I hold every single day.

764

:

And like, I guess I would think if

I'm not, if I wasn't married right

765

:

now and I didn't have kids right now.

766

:

would be looking for a

man that has those things.

767

:

So who am I to look for a man

that has those things if I don't

768

:

also firmly hold them myself?

769

:

And now on the flip side, if I am

married and I have kids, I'm raising

770

:

my kids to have those values as well.

771

:

So who am I to expect them to have those

values if I don't hold them myself?

772

:

So it's a, I guess it's maybe

an outer accountability.

773

:

And like, that is very much how I work.

774

:

So I don't know if it's

different for you guys.

775

:

But like, yeah.

776

:

I would feel like such a fraud.

777

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I think, well, I think almost what

778

:

you're getting, tell me if I'm wrong,

but almost what you're getting at

779

:

was like an internal integrity.

780

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: Yes.

781

:

Oh my gosh.

782

:

We've talked about this before too.

783

:

Yes, that's true.

784

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

785

:

And it reminds me of, I mean,

literally Sunday's gospel.

786

:

It was like, I just pulled it up.

787

:

Simon, Peter answered to Jesus and

said, master, to whom shall I go?

788

:

You are the words of eternal life.

789

:

And it's like, what is my other option?

790

:

I can either be myself or I can be a lie.

791

:

So like, to whom shall I go?

792

:

Like.

793

:

It's just so straightforward

to me in my brain

794

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Yeah.

795

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

a lOt of women, it's like, they

796

:

want to be that publicly, like

what they feel in their soul.

797

:

They want to be that publicly,

but it feels like such a big step.

798

:

Like.

799

:

To it's just like such a big jump to

be what you are internal to be what

800

:

you are external if you're not used

to being that and I think another

801

:

roadblock to that is like people in

our culture don't let you change.

802

:

It's very hard to show that

you've changed or have a

803

:

different opinion about something.

804

:

I remember, you know.

805

:

mean, I wasn't like how I

am in high school, right?

806

:

And so when I see different high school

friends through different, you know,

807

:

whatever reunions, it's sometimes almost

like, I don't know, embarrassment, iss not

808

:

the right word, but like, am I embarrassed

that I'm a different person that?

809

:

I've changed 'em a different human and.

810

:

So to go from that leap of like who

you are internally to who you are

811

:

externally, there are so many little

things that you can do to have that self

812

:

integrity like Megan was talking about.

813

:

And the biggest thing is doing

what I say I'm going to do

814

:

when I say I'm going to do it.

815

:

That those little things help

me be who I am in who I am

816

:

internally and show who I am.

817

:

Show that externally.

818

:

So it's like so simple almost as

like, I said that I'm going to.

819

:

do the laundry after this meeting.

820

:

No one knows if I do the laundry

after this meeting and no one cares

821

:

if I do it after this meeting, but

because I told myself I was going to

822

:

do it, I'm going to do it because I'm

going to have that self integrity.

823

:

I want to be confident

in who I think I am.

824

:

Um, so if I say I'm going to

do it, I'm going to do it.

825

:

I do what I say I'm going to do

when I say I'm going to do it.

826

:

And so the more you build up

that internal integrity, you can

827

:

then start to show it externally.

828

:

And again, it kind of bridges that gap

from like who you are and who maybe

829

:

people thought you used to be, or

830

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Right.

831

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I don't know, it is that,

832

:

is that even making sense?

833

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: That

834

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

Yeah, absolutely.

835

:

And again, I feel like You

have such a knack for this.

836

:

You see, we're like, you take

the big concept and you're like

837

:

breaking it down in a really

like tangible way to get there.

838

:

And so I think you, yeah,

you're on the right track.

839

:

And that is super helpful.

840

:

Um, I have something to add if you're not

done yet, or if you're, I think that kind

841

:

of you're Reminded me and kind of like

triggered this thought process in my head.

842

:

I'm like, okay, for myself, like, why,

where do I get my confidence from to

843

:

live the way that I do and, and to live

the lifestyle and choose the values

844

:

and standards that I do for my life.

845

:

And it might sound kind of cliche.

846

:

I feel like My confidence really

comes from the Lord and like

847

:

rooting my life in the Lord.

848

:

And if you follow me, I talk

about this all the time.

849

:

Matthew 6 33, like seek first, the kingdom

is like my anchor verse in my life.

850

:

And I think a lot of the times your

confidence can come from your priorities.

851

:

Like in my life, I have made

Numerous, countless at this point

852

:

in my life, most of my decisions,

if not all are based off of like

853

:

what the Lord's will is for my life.

854

:

And what does my Catholic faith say

about how I should be living my life?

855

:

And if it is the truth in my life

that The Lord is first that I'm

856

:

seeking his kingdom first, that's

going to dictate my decisions.

857

:

Like, is this decision that I'm making,

or is this, you know, relationship that

858

:

I'm forming or whatever I'm pursuing, is

it helping me reach the kingdom or not?

859

:

Is it going to help me put the Lord first?

860

:

Or is Hinder me from

putting the Lord first.

861

:

And once you have confidence in that,

like once, once I decided in my life,

862

:

like, yeah, the Lord is first in my life.

863

:

Therefore, everything I do has to

be ordered first towards seeking the

864

:

kingdom and then other things like.

865

:

It's almost like, like you

were saying, Cece, like, it's

866

:

so straightforward in my head.

867

:

Like you are given the blueprint for

your decisions for your lifestyle

868

:

and your confidence can be rooted

in it because it's set in stone

869

:

and it is like the word of God.

870

:

And so if I have enough trust in

the Lord, that what he says, it's

871

:

true that if I seek him first,

all else will be given to me.

872

:

Then I don't have to worry

about people liking me or not.

873

:

Because of the way I live my life

because I know that the Lord is going

874

:

to provide otherwise, I don't have to

worry about, you know, being on F like

875

:

trying to pursue unethical ways to make

money or a job that takes me away from

876

:

my family or whatever, because I know

that if I like seek first the Lord, he's

877

:

going to make his will known in my life.

878

:

He's going to provide for my family.

879

:

He's going to whatever it is.

880

:

So I feel like that's kind of

where my confidence comes from.

881

:

It's like, what is the

priority in your life?

882

:

And this is where I feel like a lot

of women struggle because they want.

883

:

God to be the priority in their life.

884

:

And it is a genuine desire and

a good hope of like, I want

885

:

to be this Christian woman.

886

:

I want to be this Catholic

woman that puts the Lord first.

887

:

And what's hard is when other

people don't, you feel like you

888

:

were saying kind of like awkward

CC, you're like, Oh, I'm different.

889

:

You know, like I, like I'm different and

you just kind of have to get over that.

890

:

You just kind of have to have that fake

it till you make it of just like, nope.

891

:

Like this is who I am.

892

:

And I trust in the Lord and this

is where my confidence comes from.

893

:

And if you like it, great.

894

:

If you don't.

895

:

Sorry, like I'm not

going to change for you

896

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I also think, what is that, it, when

897

:

people question whether or not Jesus was

real, it's like, okay, well then he was

898

:

either a, a fake, a fraud or something.

899

:

I don't know.

900

:

There's like three different things.

901

:

I have the feeling like that it

902

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: more.

903

:

Oh, I think it was Lord lunatic or a liar.

904

:

Like he's either actually God,

905

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: Yes.

906

:

Actually.

907

:

Yes.

908

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

or he's just a straight up liar.

909

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: Yes,

okay, so I feel like once you are like,

910

:

no, he is Lord and if you know what, if

you think I'm crazy, if you think I'm a

911

:

liar, if you whatever, fine, but we'll

find out at the end of my life, whether

912

:

or not like me holding true to that, the

fact that he is Lord and aligning my life

913

:

under that, like you both have said, we'll

find out if, you know, I was crazy or

914

:

a liar or, you know, weird or whatever.

915

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yes.

916

:

Okay.

917

:

Let's get into some juicy content here.

918

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Oh no.

919

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Pivot.

920

:

Uh, dating.

921

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

if there's little ears around.

922

:

Get ready.

923

:

Kidding.

924

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

Kidding, kidding, kidding.

925

:

Um, this will still be pretty PG.

926

:

It's

927

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

just to clarify,

928

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

not that juicy.

929

:

Okay, but I do, I think it's

always fun to hear about, like,

930

:

what your dating experience was

like before you got married.

931

:

So

932

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Shocking.

933

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108:

start with like worst dates, you know,

934

:

dates that you've been on that you

were just like, that was really bad.

935

:

Do you guys have any like funny stories?

936

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Megan, take it away with

937

:

all your dating experience.

938

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Actually though, Avery and I were

939

:

joking about one of the five dates

I went on before meeting him.

940

:

Um, and it was, uh, is it?

941

:

Fraternity party, like

fraternity date party in college.

942

:

You had to drive like 45 minutes

away to the town that had

943

:

an actual roller skate rink.

944

:

And it was like dress up

and, you know, neon stuff.

945

:

And I had met this guy at freshman

orientation and he asked me to go.

946

:

So I said, yeah.

947

:

And we drove, I didn't really know him.

948

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Yeah.

949

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

there.

950

:

We had an okay time.

951

:

I don't really remember it.

952

:

And then we came back and on the

way back on the way there and

953

:

back, there's this like cheap,

cheap, cheap, cheap old rundown.

954

:

Like side of the road motel for like 27

dollars a night I remember we're like

955

:

approaching it and he's He made a comment.

956

:

I don't think I made any comments I

don't think I was even going to joke

957

:

about it because I was like, don't

really know this guy He made a comment

958

:

of like, you want me to just turn there?

959

:

And I was like I was like, I really

don't want you to turn there It wasn't

960

:

that good And we were like bros that

whole night up until that moment and

961

:

then I was just like Dear Lord Jesus,

please get me back to my home safely.

962

:

Thank you But I was like

963

:

And now looking back like that is

actually one of those things I think

964

:

about and I'm like guardian angels

are real 100 percent guardian angels

965

:

are real like I could have ended up

on the side of the road dirty motel

966

:

with this guy I barely knew goodness.

967

:

I mean, I think he was joking.

968

:

I want to believe benefit the doubt he

was joking But it was still like oh, no,

969

:

no No, we never run on another date after

that if you thought maybe we did no,

970

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: I mean,

I think even just the fact that you

971

:

barely knew each other is kind of like,

how am I supposed to take that joke?

972

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

I know, like, can we not

973

:

joke about that, thanks?

974

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Uh, Cece?

975

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

So some may say my dating

976

:

experience is quite extensive.

977

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108: yes.

978

:

Are you gonna talk about bacon?

979

:

Are you gonna talk about, like,

which route are you gonna go?

980

:

What date?

981

:

Is

982

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108:

Um, so how about this?

983

:

This one's pretty short, but, um, I've

had some really real, I've been blessed

984

:

like with some really great dates and I,

my father like really encouraged me to

985

:

go on dates in high school and to like

set that standard for men to take me on

986

:

the date and not like, you know, have a

thing and hang out, whatever that means,

987

:

like, you know, but everyone had like

a thing and hung out in high school.

988

:

mari-wagner_1_08-27-2024_131108: Oh, yeah.

989

:

Oh, yeah.

990

:

squadcaster-cb50_1_08-27-2024_141108: um,

One date that I went on was my friend's

991

:

was like, Hey, you need to meet my

younger daughter's soccer coach.

992

:

And so anyways, she like connected

us over text and he like picked

993

:

me up and we went on a date.

994

:

And I felt comfortable with like him

picking me up because I know like my,

995

:

my friend's mother wouldn't just like,

you know, set me up with a creepy guy.

996

:

Um, so I had him pick me up.

997

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And we went out to dinner and

then we were going to, does anyone

998

:

know like what pinstripes is,

999

:

squadcaster-ba5e_1_08-27-2024_141108:

that bowling?

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00:47:07,753 --> 00:47:09,253

-:

yeah, it's like nice bowling and

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00:47:09,263 --> 00:47:12,393

botchy, but like, you know, they'll

have like a jazz band and like,

:

00:47:12,393 --> 00:47:13,928

you can grab drinks and like,

:

00:47:14,228 --> 00:47:14,538

-:

What the heck?

:

00:47:14,538 --> 00:47:15,318

That sounds so fun.

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00:47:15,318 --> 00:47:16,953

Like a pop golf for bowling.

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00:47:17,253 --> 00:47:18,358

-:

Bougie boy.

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00:47:18,498 --> 00:47:18,968

-:

yeah,

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00:47:19,138 --> 00:47:19,228

-:

Yeah.

:

00:47:20,438 --> 00:47:21,718

-:

like Topgolf still like a little

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00:47:21,748 --> 00:47:23,178

sporty, you know, but like you could

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00:47:23,238 --> 00:47:23,538

-:

Okay.

:

00:47:23,838 --> 00:47:24,578

-:

glass of wine.

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00:47:24,648 --> 00:47:28,888

And so, um, we went out to

dinner and it was like an Italian

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00:47:28,888 --> 00:47:32,193

restaurant and I, he was like cute.

:

00:47:32,193 --> 00:47:33,988

I mean, he, you know, whatever.

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00:47:34,028 --> 00:47:37,848

And so, um, I see him grab.

:

00:47:38,213 --> 00:47:43,733

Like a Tupperware out of the

car and we walk in and I'm like,

:

00:47:45,623 --> 00:47:47,103

his name is Patrick, actually.

:

00:47:47,513 --> 00:47:51,813

And, um, yeah, I was like, Patrick,

I'm sorry, what do you have there?

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00:47:51,833 --> 00:47:53,793

And he's like, oh, this is my dinner.

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00:47:53,803 --> 00:47:54,123

And I'm

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00:47:54,328 --> 00:47:54,628

-:

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00:47:54,628 --> 00:47:57,498

So

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00:47:58,323 --> 00:47:59,823

-:

the dinner joint.

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00:48:00,303 --> 00:48:00,853

Um,

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00:48:01,698 --> 00:48:02,088

-:

The difference.

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00:48:03,113 --> 00:48:05,343

-:

he's like, yeah, it's like cutting season.

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00:48:05,343 --> 00:48:06,613

It's my chicken and rice.

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00:48:06,643 --> 00:48:10,023

And I'm like, why are you

taking me out to dinner?

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00:48:10,083 --> 00:48:13,453

Like, what are we doing here now?

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00:48:13,683 --> 00:48:17,443

I'm supposed to order dinner

while you ask them to warm up your

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00:48:17,443 --> 00:48:19,363

Tupperware at a nice restaurant.

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00:48:19,363 --> 00:48:21,353

And then like, I'm supposed to be like.

:

00:48:21,758 --> 00:48:25,788

Waiting for him to like pay for

my dinner or be like, it's okay.

:

00:48:25,788 --> 00:48:26,338

I got it.

:

00:48:26,338 --> 00:48:27,128

You didn't eat.

:

00:48:27,138 --> 00:48:28,308

Like, I don't know.

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00:48:28,308 --> 00:48:29,538

It was just so weird.

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00:48:29,958 --> 00:48:30,448

-:

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00:48:30,748 --> 00:48:32,168

-:

So nice guy.

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00:48:32,208 --> 00:48:36,458

Just like one of those awkward

moments that you have, you know,

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00:48:36,968 --> 00:48:37,348

-:

Yeah.

:

00:48:38,608 --> 00:48:41,018

-:

Another one I would say I had a really

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00:48:41,018 --> 00:48:43,018

great date with this Catholic guy.

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00:48:43,038 --> 00:48:44,588

We met through mutual friends.

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00:48:44,868 --> 00:48:46,018

He was from Ohio.

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00:48:46,018 --> 00:48:47,948

He came into Chicago for the weekend.

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00:48:47,958 --> 00:48:49,808

I was living in the Chicago suburbs.

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00:48:49,828 --> 00:48:53,698

So I took the train in and we did

kind of like a two day date where

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00:48:53,698 --> 00:48:54,918

it was like Saturday, Sunday.

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00:48:54,958 --> 00:48:56,168

So I met it in the city.

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00:48:56,168 --> 00:48:57,508

We did some fun things in the city.

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00:48:57,508 --> 00:48:58,428

I showed him around.

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00:48:58,868 --> 00:49:03,448

Um, and then I met up with like

another couple friend of mine and we

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00:49:03,448 --> 00:49:08,228

like went out dancing and then the

next day I met him in the city again.

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00:49:08,228 --> 00:49:09,888

And we went, um, to mass.

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00:49:10,568 --> 00:49:16,568

And after that, you know, he had to drive

back to Ohio and, um, he was dropping

:

00:49:16,568 --> 00:49:20,758

me off at the train station and he was

just like, This is a great weekend.

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00:49:20,758 --> 00:49:23,988

And I was like, yeah, it was like,

I really, his name was also Patrick.

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00:49:24,028 --> 00:49:24,558

I dated two

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-:

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00:49:25,628 --> 00:49:26,038

-:

my Patrick.

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00:49:26,368 --> 00:49:26,608

Yeah.

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00:49:26,688 --> 00:49:27,168

Super weird.

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00:49:27,468 --> 00:49:28,048

-:

Third time's the charm.

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00:49:28,293 --> 00:49:28,693

-:

I know.

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00:49:29,103 --> 00:49:31,643

And, um, it's random that I just picked

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00:49:31,648 --> 00:49:33,138

-:

What are the odds of that?

:

00:49:34,183 --> 00:49:34,913

-:

Pretty high with the

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00:49:34,913 --> 00:49:35,543

amount of guys I dated.

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00:49:37,748 --> 00:49:38,438

-:

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00:49:38,438 --> 00:49:44,428

Now, now I need to know So when

you say dated, are you like going

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00:49:44,428 --> 00:49:45,893

on dates or like boyfriends?

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00:49:46,193 --> 00:49:46,483

-:

Yeah.

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00:49:46,483 --> 00:49:47,223

Going on dates.

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-:

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Okay.

:

00:49:49,113 --> 00:49:51,123

-:

big about like dating is

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00:49:51,123 --> 00:49:53,203

different than like my boyfriend.

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00:49:53,318 --> 00:49:53,543

Those

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00:49:53,618 --> 00:49:53,858

-:

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00:49:53,983 --> 00:49:54,693

-:

so different.

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00:49:54,703 --> 00:49:55,183

Like I

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-:

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00:49:55,483 --> 00:49:56,498

Mhm.

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00:49:56,498 --> 00:49:57,263

Mhm.

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00:49:57,563 --> 00:49:58,183

-:

but like you only have

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00:49:58,353 --> 00:49:59,353

one boyfriend, you know?

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00:50:00,098 --> 00:50:00,228

-:

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00:50:00,543 --> 00:50:02,193

-:

So anyways, he drops me off and

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00:50:02,193 --> 00:50:03,493

he's like, that was really great.

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00:50:03,503 --> 00:50:06,013

And I'm just like, yeah, like

I'd love to see you again.

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00:50:06,393 --> 00:50:10,088

And he was like, Yeah, no, I'm

not really looking for that.

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00:50:10,088 --> 00:50:11,588

And I was like, I'm sorry.

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00:50:11,588 --> 00:50:11,798

What?

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00:50:11,798 --> 00:50:15,978

You just like literally drove from

Ohio to Chicago, spent two days with

:

00:50:15,978 --> 00:50:19,228

me, probably dropped a few hundred

dollars, more than a few hundred.

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00:50:19,228 --> 00:50:20,958

Cause you had a hotel and everything.

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00:50:20,968 --> 00:50:26,773

He even like brought me flowers,

a card, like, And he's like, just

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00:50:26,773 --> 00:50:28,943

wanted to know women like you existed.

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00:50:28,943 --> 00:50:29,286

Yeah.

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00:50:29,286 --> 00:50:29,848

He's like,

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00:50:30,148 --> 00:50:30,838

-:

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00:50:31,768 --> 00:50:32,308

-:

Wait.

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00:50:32,808 --> 00:50:34,078

-:

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00:50:34,078 --> 00:50:35,348

What?

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00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:36,438

-:

mean?

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00:50:36,438 --> 00:50:39,881

I didn't know about this.

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00:50:39,881 --> 00:50:41,258

Your journey.

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00:50:41,258 --> 00:50:41,808

Yeah.

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00:50:42,108 --> 00:50:43,818

-:

You're like, alright, well, glad I

:

00:50:43,818 --> 00:50:46,408

could play a part in your experiment.

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00:50:46,765 --> 00:50:47,454

-:

wild.

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00:50:47,454 --> 00:50:49,519

It's funny now.

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00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:50,208

Okay.

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00:50:50,513 --> 00:50:51,323

-:

You weren't that cute anyway.

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00:50:51,353 --> 00:50:51,623

Okay.

:

00:50:51,633 --> 00:50:51,883

Bye.

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00:50:53,493 --> 00:50:55,763

I didn't say that, but as it felt that,

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00:50:56,968 --> 00:50:57,238

-:

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00:50:57,323 --> 00:50:57,663

-:

really did.

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00:50:57,913 --> 00:50:58,763

I had a good time.

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00:50:59,683 --> 00:51:00,113

Yeah.

:

00:51:00,768 --> 00:51:01,738

-:

That's so weird.

:

00:51:02,038 --> 00:51:07,743

-:

So, um, funny, but it's funny.

:

00:51:08,398 --> 00:51:08,468

-:

It's funny.

:

00:51:08,943 --> 00:51:09,233

-:

Mari.

:

00:51:09,243 --> 00:51:10,423

Have you had any bad dates?

:

00:51:11,578 --> 00:51:16,768

-:

I can think of one, so I, I, I

:

00:51:16,808 --> 00:51:22,218

met Trey sophomore year of college

and I had all my dating happen

:

00:51:22,218 --> 00:51:24,158

basically like all of high school.

:

00:51:24,658 --> 00:51:26,728

And then freshman year was a little crazy.

:

00:51:26,728 --> 00:51:27,758

It wasn't like really dating.

:

00:51:27,758 --> 00:51:33,018

I was just like, you know, a little bit

wild there, but like in school, I feel

:

00:51:33,018 --> 00:51:36,378

like you didn't really go on dates.

:

00:51:36,788 --> 00:51:38,378

Like there was one boyfriend.

:

00:51:38,378 --> 00:51:42,238

I had my first boy, my first

serious boyfriend who actually

:

00:51:42,238 --> 00:51:46,718

took me on dates and then maybe

like my senior year boyfriend.

:

00:51:46,718 --> 00:51:48,838

But I, even then I just felt like

we were just like, like kind of,

:

00:51:48,888 --> 00:51:50,983

we were saying, you know, like, of

just like, you're just hanging out.

:

00:51:50,993 --> 00:51:52,853

Like, it's not like they're

actually taking you on a date.

:

00:51:52,853 --> 00:51:55,843

So I literally think I had one boyfriend

in high school who took me on dates.

:

00:51:56,173 --> 00:52:00,373

And then other than that, we just

became boyfriend and girlfriend really

:

00:52:00,373 --> 00:52:02,753

quick because you're in class together.

:

00:52:02,753 --> 00:52:06,123

It's, it's almost like you're getting

to know each other through daily things.

:

00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:08,383

And it's not like you're actually

like, Needing to go on dates

:

00:52:08,403 --> 00:52:09,113

to get to know each other.

:

00:52:09,113 --> 00:52:14,613

So yeah, I think like actual dates,

um, happened more in college and

:

00:52:14,613 --> 00:52:18,493

a lot of them were with Trey, but

before I met Trey, there was one

:

00:52:18,563 --> 00:52:20,463

that was a really interesting moment.

:

00:52:20,523 --> 00:52:26,573

Um, I worked at the Gonzaga

marketing office, like as like a,

:

00:52:26,573 --> 00:52:28,363

I don't know, office assistant.

:

00:52:28,373 --> 00:52:31,853

Like I would just like basically

do admin work for them.

:

00:52:32,383 --> 00:52:38,958

And yeah, This was, I think my freshman

year and there was like another guy

:

00:52:38,998 --> 00:52:40,888

who started to come in and work.

:

00:52:40,898 --> 00:52:42,938

Like I'd already been there

for like the first semester.

:

00:52:42,938 --> 00:52:45,368

And then I think he started second

semester and he would try and

:

00:52:45,368 --> 00:52:46,598

come and talk to me and whatever.

:

00:52:46,598 --> 00:52:47,648

And he seemed nice.

:

00:52:47,668 --> 00:52:48,318

He was fine.

:

00:52:48,328 --> 00:52:51,758

Like he was kind of cute, like nothing

that I'm like, wow, so dreamy, but

:

00:52:51,758 --> 00:52:52,828

I'm like, okay, you're kind of cute.

:

00:52:53,358 --> 00:52:56,448

And so then he asked me out

on a date after work one day.

:

00:52:57,103 --> 00:52:59,033

And I was like, wow,

this guy's like so nice.

:

00:52:59,073 --> 00:53:01,523

Like he actually like came up

to me in person, like asked me

:

00:53:01,523 --> 00:53:03,023

on a date, like who does that?

:

00:53:03,463 --> 00:53:08,803

And we like went over to lunch

and I'm pretty sure that like, he

:

00:53:08,883 --> 00:53:10,093

like didn't let me pick the place.

:

00:53:10,093 --> 00:53:12,643

He was like asking me like where

I wanted to go and he kind of gave

:

00:53:12,643 --> 00:53:14,503

me some options and I said where

I wanted to go and he's like, no,

:

00:53:14,503 --> 00:53:15,403

I really want to go to this place.

:

00:53:15,403 --> 00:53:18,313

I'm like, okay, we'll just, We'll

just go to this place, you know,

:

00:53:18,313 --> 00:53:19,393

like, why don't you just pick it then?

:

00:53:20,133 --> 00:53:25,283

And so we ended up going to like the place

he wants to go eat and he didn't pay for

:

00:53:25,313 --> 00:53:27,443

my lunch, which was kind of a bummer.

:

00:53:27,453 --> 00:53:29,353

Cause I'm like expecting

him to pay for my lunch.

:

00:53:29,353 --> 00:53:30,488

If you asked me out on a date

:

00:53:30,788 --> 00:53:33,018

-:

You wanted to go and not

:

00:53:33,018 --> 00:53:33,998

where you wanted to go.

:

00:53:34,048 --> 00:53:34,298

-:

:

00:53:34,768 --> 00:53:35,263

And then,

:

00:53:35,758 --> 00:53:37,078

-:

this?

:

00:53:37,378 --> 00:53:39,438

-:

turned 21, I think recently.

:

00:53:39,458 --> 00:53:42,568

And all he talked about

was drinking alcohol.

:

00:53:42,578 --> 00:53:45,188

Like that was his big flex.

:

00:53:45,218 --> 00:53:48,688

And that was like literally the whole

conversation where he was just like,

:

00:53:49,078 --> 00:53:54,448

yeah, like we just go out to bars and

like, I drink so much at this party.

:

00:53:54,448 --> 00:53:58,088

And like, it was literally all

about like drinking and bars.

:

00:53:58,118 --> 00:54:02,323

And I'm kind of sitting there like,

do you think This is going well

:

00:54:02,333 --> 00:54:07,383

for you, because, like, do you, do

you feel like this is impressive?

:

00:54:07,933 --> 00:54:09,693

Because it's not.

:

00:54:09,803 --> 00:54:11,643

Like, I, like, I'm, I'm done.

:

00:54:11,653 --> 00:54:11,933

Thank you.

:

00:54:11,933 --> 00:54:12,113

Bye.

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00:54:12,568 --> 00:54:12,988

-:

Yeah.

:

00:54:13,143 --> 00:54:14,263

-:

And I don't,

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00:54:14,878 --> 00:54:15,338

-:

:

00:54:15,528 --> 00:54:17,703

Like, hmm.

:

00:54:17,833 --> 00:54:20,283

-:

didn't even ask you about alcohol.

:

00:54:20,293 --> 00:54:22,173

Like, why are we talking about this?

:

00:54:22,783 --> 00:54:28,488

Um, so, yeah, so, I don't really remember

how that whole thing ended, but, I

:

00:54:28,488 --> 00:54:33,348

think I just, I think I just like didn't

text him afterwards and he just kind

:

00:54:33,348 --> 00:54:34,648

of stopped showing up at the office.

:

00:54:35,088 --> 00:54:40,148

So I think like he just like quit

or I don't know, but he was gone.

:

00:54:40,148 --> 00:54:42,788

I like saw him at that date and then

I don't think I saw him the rest

:

00:54:42,788 --> 00:54:44,068

of the semester, which was funny.

:

00:54:44,598 --> 00:54:45,938

Um, okay.

:

00:54:45,938 --> 00:54:48,808

But then another, okay,

this is kind of funny.

:

00:54:48,848 --> 00:54:51,798

This was a date that almost

was, but never happened.

:

00:54:52,668 --> 00:54:57,198

So, at my 20th birthday party,

my friends took me out to P.

:

00:54:57,198 --> 00:54:57,368

F.

:

00:54:57,398 --> 00:54:57,948

Chang's,

:

00:54:58,283 --> 00:54:58,843

-:

Love it.

:

00:54:59,143 --> 00:55:02,228

-:

it's so good.

:

00:55:02,493 --> 00:55:03,303

-:

rangoon.

:

00:55:04,068 --> 00:55:06,578

-:

way, I have a recipe for those chicken

:

00:55:06,578 --> 00:55:08,418

wraps that I've made a couple times.

:

00:55:08,438 --> 00:55:11,768

It is phenomenal and so easy,

so if you like those, I'm

:

00:55:11,768 --> 00:55:12,268

gonna send them to you, CeCe.

:

00:55:12,773 --> 00:55:13,623

-:

Best place, though.

:

00:55:14,088 --> 00:55:15,088

-:

:

00:55:15,268 --> 00:55:15,808

-:

right now.

:

00:55:16,028 --> 00:55:16,388

-:

:

00:55:16,503 --> 00:55:16,593

-:

:

00:55:16,808 --> 00:55:17,228

-:

the waiter,

:

00:55:17,528 --> 00:55:17,793

-:

there.

:

00:55:17,813 --> 00:55:18,233

I'm sorry.

:

00:55:18,313 --> 00:55:19,683

It's just, I miss, I

:

00:55:19,728 --> 00:55:21,028

-:

we're just still on BFJ.

:

00:55:22,103 --> 00:55:22,963

-:

Okay, keep going.

:

00:55:23,223 --> 00:55:23,743

So good.

:

00:55:24,538 --> 00:55:27,458

-:

waiter, uh, the waiter was really cute.

:

00:55:27,458 --> 00:55:30,948

We couldn't tell how old he

was, but he was really cute.

:

00:55:30,968 --> 00:55:33,298

And he was like totally flirting with me.

:

00:55:33,318 --> 00:55:34,668

This was before I met Trey, okay?

:

00:55:34,688 --> 00:55:35,458

Just so everybody knows.

:

00:55:36,078 --> 00:55:41,778

Um, and, um, At the end of the

dinner, my friends didn't tell me

:

00:55:41,778 --> 00:55:44,428

this, but they all wrote my phone

number on the back of their receipts.

:

00:55:44,538 --> 00:55:49,478

So every single receipt had my

phone number on it and either like

:

00:55:49,478 --> 00:55:54,158

a little heart or a winky face or

call her or text me or whatever.

:

00:55:54,728 --> 00:55:58,053

And sure enough, he did text me,

his name was Alex and I had him

:

00:55:58,053 --> 00:55:59,858

in my phone as Alex the waiter.

:

00:56:00,218 --> 00:56:05,603

And we like, um, He called me and

left a message and was like, Hey,

:

00:56:05,603 --> 00:56:07,373

like, this is, I'm your waiter.

:

00:56:07,413 --> 00:56:08,143

Like it's Alex.

:

00:56:08,143 --> 00:56:10,683

His phone number was left

on the back of the receipt.

:

00:56:10,683 --> 00:56:12,573

Like, I'm assuming it's the birthday girl.

:

00:56:12,583 --> 00:56:14,053

Like, would love to take you out.

:

00:56:14,553 --> 00:56:16,093

And like, we were all like, Oh my God.

:

00:56:16,858 --> 00:56:17,088

-:

cute!

:

00:56:17,178 --> 00:56:17,678

Yeah.

:

00:56:19,073 --> 00:56:21,673

-:

And we planned, he like planned,

:

00:56:21,683 --> 00:56:23,923

I think to take me out to dinner

or something like that one night.

:

00:56:24,518 --> 00:56:28,638

And I like told my mom about it because I

was excited and this goes back to my mom

:

00:56:28,668 --> 00:56:33,318

being a realist like I said before and

she was like, well, how old is this guy?

:

00:56:33,338 --> 00:56:37,438

And I think he was like

25 or something like that.

:

00:56:37,488 --> 00:56:40,248

And she was like, absolutely not.

:

00:56:40,258 --> 00:56:43,948

Like this is like a grown

man who's not in school.

:

00:56:43,958 --> 00:56:46,388

Like you do not like, don't

tell him where you live.

:

00:56:46,398 --> 00:56:47,528

You don't know his intentions.

:

00:56:47,528 --> 00:56:50,698

Like why does he want to

take out a 20 year old girl?

:

00:56:50,698 --> 00:56:52,608

Like, doesn't he have his life together?

:

00:56:52,608 --> 00:56:54,253

And I was like, Oh my gosh.

:

00:56:54,683 --> 00:56:57,643

And she just like instilled all this

fear in me that he was going to like,

:

00:56:57,643 --> 00:56:59,333

kidnap me and rape me and take me away.

:

00:56:59,333 --> 00:57:05,813

And I was like, okay, actually, like, I

think we're different parts of our lives,

:

00:57:06,013 --> 00:57:08,013

so maybe we shouldn't go on a date.

:

00:57:08,023 --> 00:57:09,823

And it was literally like day before and

:

00:57:10,248 --> 00:57:10,988

-:

:

00:57:11,083 --> 00:57:11,543

-:

never happened.

:

00:57:11,763 --> 00:57:13,563

-:

like, I'm just wanting to take you out.

:

00:57:13,563 --> 00:57:15,383

Like, I'm not asking you to marry me.

:

00:57:16,743 --> 00:57:18,163

-:

I know, I know.

:

00:57:18,313 --> 00:57:20,513

But yeah, we'll never know

what would have happened.

:

00:57:21,788 --> 00:57:21,938

-:

Whatever.

:

00:57:22,413 --> 00:57:23,243

-:

So funny.

:

00:57:23,293 --> 00:57:23,743

Oh my gosh.

:

00:57:23,743 --> 00:57:25,133

I wonder where Alex is today.

:

00:57:25,483 --> 00:57:26,043

-:

:

00:57:26,343 --> 00:57:27,278

-:

dating a 20 year old.

:

00:57:27,278 --> 00:57:28,868

If

:

00:57:28,883 --> 00:57:30,903

-:

at PF Chang's.

:

00:57:32,128 --> 00:57:33,828

-:

you are a waiter, a waitress, know

:

00:57:33,828 --> 00:57:37,798

that you, you may not, you, you

can move on to, if you really want

:

00:57:37,878 --> 00:57:43,488

to, it's okay if you still are, but

you're not stuck there forever, like

:

00:57:43,523 --> 00:57:46,223

-:

don't have to make a career out of it.

:

00:57:47,938 --> 00:57:48,388

-:

:

00:57:48,923 --> 00:57:50,683

-:

What about first kisses?

:

00:57:51,623 --> 00:57:52,753

When did you have your first kiss?

:

00:57:53,523 --> 00:57:56,813

And do you have like, was it

like a cute funny story or was it

:

00:57:56,813 --> 00:57:57,923

just like, not really a big deal?

:

00:57:59,388 --> 00:58:00,198

-:

I don't remember mine.

:

00:58:01,018 --> 00:58:03,388

-:

Mine was like the epitome of high school.

:

00:58:03,398 --> 00:58:04,123

Wait, Megan, you don't.

:

00:58:04,333 --> 00:58:04,423

You

:

00:58:04,448 --> 00:58:05,448

-:

You don't remember?

:

00:58:05,478 --> 00:58:07,118

How do you not remember?

:

00:58:07,618 --> 00:58:09,588

-:

sitting here thinking, I remember

:

00:58:09,588 --> 00:58:10,748

Avery and I's first kiss.

:

00:58:11,743 --> 00:58:17,033

But I don't remember, I had a boyfriend

for like a year, prior to meeting

:

00:58:17,033 --> 00:58:20,293

and dating Avery, and I'm like, we

for sure kissed, and I'm sitting

:

00:58:20,293 --> 00:58:23,593

here thinking, we kissed, right?

:

00:58:23,623 --> 00:58:24,943

Like, why can't I remember?

:

00:58:25,713 --> 00:58:28,013

Like, did my brain just block it all out?

:

00:58:28,043 --> 00:58:28,863

I don't remember.

:

00:58:30,113 --> 00:58:30,563

-:

:

00:58:30,648 --> 00:58:32,398

-:

we can hear your Avery first kiss

:

00:58:32,408 --> 00:58:33,998

story because I'm sure that's cute.

:

00:58:34,603 --> 00:58:35,083

-:

:

00:58:35,083 --> 00:58:42,783

Well, we, we started

dating like long distance.

:

00:58:42,783 --> 00:58:48,503

Was that even mean we started dating

in October or August, October?

:

00:58:48,503 --> 00:58:48,933

I don't know.

:

00:58:50,653 --> 00:58:53,073

and we didn't actually

see each other in person.

:

00:58:53,263 --> 00:58:54,023

He's in California.

:

00:58:54,043 --> 00:58:54,673

I'm in Alabama.

:

00:58:54,683 --> 00:58:57,623

We didn't see each other in

person until December and prior to

:

00:58:57,623 --> 00:58:58,993

seeing each other in person now.

:

00:58:59,123 --> 00:59:00,073

-:

knew each other though.

:

00:59:00,083 --> 00:59:00,973

They had seen each other in

:

00:59:01,273 --> 00:59:02,283

-:

Yeah, sorry.

:

00:59:02,283 --> 00:59:02,513

Okay.

:

00:59:02,813 --> 00:59:03,163

-:

each other.

:

00:59:03,173 --> 00:59:03,203

Can

:

00:59:03,503 --> 00:59:04,003

-:

Rewind.

:

00:59:04,013 --> 00:59:06,123

Knew each other for

three days at Disneyland.

:

00:59:06,298 --> 00:59:07,913

-:

For three days.

:

00:59:08,213 --> 00:59:08,723

-:

three days.

:

00:59:09,093 --> 00:59:12,003

Um, and had a mutual friend there.

:

00:59:12,003 --> 00:59:14,753

That was the bridge between how we

had three days at Disneyland together.

:

00:59:15,083 --> 00:59:17,863

And then, forward, we kept in touch.

:

00:59:17,903 --> 00:59:18,813

Really hit it off.

:

00:59:18,813 --> 00:59:20,313

Never ran out of anything to talk about.

:

00:59:20,563 --> 00:59:22,363

I was like, eh, I don't know.

:

00:59:22,593 --> 00:59:23,563

Gotta go back to school.

:

00:59:23,563 --> 00:59:24,353

I'm not gonna do this.

:

00:59:25,083 --> 00:59:27,373

But my mom, oh, he did come out too.

:

00:59:27,403 --> 00:59:29,543

He bought tickets to fly out to college.

:

00:59:30,008 --> 00:59:37,473

Where I was at in Alabama and he showed up

and we weren't dating and I was like, What

:

00:59:37,473 --> 00:59:41,023

guy just spends hundreds of dollars on

a ticket to come hang out with a friend?

:

00:59:41,323 --> 00:59:45,033

So he clearly wants something and so then

I felt pressure to tell him something and

:

00:59:45,033 --> 00:59:48,953

I told him no because I was scared and

Then my mom was like, do you miss him?

:

00:59:49,263 --> 00:59:52,773

And I was like, yeah, and she's

like, okay Well, then maybe

:

00:59:52,773 --> 00:59:53,713

you should give him a chance.

:

00:59:54,493 --> 00:59:59,283

And so then I said, okay, we can date

but like now at this point He's On a

:

00:59:59,363 --> 01:00:03,293

flight to Australia for his brother's

wedding, and I'm in Alabama still, so

:

01:00:03,293 --> 01:00:04,673

we don't see each other until December.

:

01:00:04,983 --> 01:00:08,053

And we've spent a total of maybe

a week together, in person.

:

01:00:08,783 --> 01:00:09,803

we're now dating.

:

01:00:10,248 --> 01:00:14,588

Long distance and then we see each other

in December and we have our first kiss

:

01:00:15,068 --> 01:00:20,378

and it was Just like he dropped me back

off with my girlfriends Who's I was

:

01:00:20,388 --> 01:00:24,858

staying with out in California when I

visited and we like kissed in the driveway

:

01:00:24,858 --> 01:00:25,988

And then he was like, was that good?

:

01:00:26,058 --> 01:00:29,758

And I was like, mm hmm Yep,

:

01:00:30,778 --> 01:00:33,158

-:

I get some quick feedback after that?

:

01:00:34,853 --> 01:00:35,853

-:

you give me a rating?

:

01:00:36,783 --> 01:00:37,283

Five stars?

:

01:00:37,758 --> 01:00:39,188

-:

I know I said yep, and I turned

:

01:00:39,188 --> 01:00:41,348

around and went back into her house.

:

01:00:42,018 --> 01:00:43,978

-:

Oh my goodness.

:

01:00:45,028 --> 01:00:46,948

-:

It can't continue like this Like,

:

01:00:46,948 --> 01:00:49,198

it has to be, we have to fix this.

:

01:00:49,228 --> 01:00:49,958

Like, this has to get better.

:

01:00:50,258 --> 01:00:51,808

-:

:

01:00:52,108 --> 01:00:53,508

-:

I mean, hello, we'd spent a

:

01:00:53,508 --> 01:00:54,918

total of seven days together.

:

01:00:54,918 --> 01:00:56,618

We weren't really

boyfriend and girlfriend.

:

01:00:56,618 --> 01:00:59,808

Like, we were choosing to be exclusive

with each other, but we didn't

:

01:00:59,818 --> 01:01:01,768

really know each other that well.

:

01:01:01,768 --> 01:01:03,798

So, it was just awkward.

:

01:01:03,808 --> 01:01:07,768

And clearly, obviously, we've got three

kids now, so we're fantastic at it now.

:

01:01:07,933 --> 01:01:08,303

-:

guys.

:

01:01:08,488 --> 01:01:09,298

-:

But, yeah,

:

01:01:09,343 --> 01:01:09,663

-:

:

01:01:09,798 --> 01:01:09,948

-:

fine.

:

01:01:10,248 --> 01:01:11,303

-:

fantastic at it.

:

01:01:11,888 --> 01:01:12,898

-:

my gosh.

:

01:01:14,343 --> 01:01:17,823

-:

Oh, I love that.

:

01:01:17,893 --> 01:01:19,953

-:

like the epitome of just

:

01:01:19,953 --> 01:01:22,273

like high school hoopla.

:

01:01:22,273 --> 01:01:29,938

Like, I mean, friend's basement,

her 16 year old birthday, you know,

:

01:01:29,988 --> 01:01:36,768

sitting on a recliner with this guy

that I like liked and had a crush on.

:

01:01:36,838 --> 01:01:39,408

And then we kissed.

:

01:01:40,438 --> 01:01:44,328

I don't think we ever kissed again,

but then I, I, two years later,

:

01:01:44,748 --> 01:01:49,198

actually dated his brother, who

ended up being my, like, boyfriend.

:

01:01:50,543 --> 01:01:50,933

-:

:

01:01:51,298 --> 01:01:51,698

-:

:

01:01:52,663 --> 01:01:54,743

-:

have a feeling one of you guys would be

:

01:01:54,743 --> 01:01:57,843

like 16 year old birthday party basement.

:

01:01:57,853 --> 01:02:00,583

I thought spin the bottle

would be in the picture, but

:

01:02:00,918 --> 01:02:01,543

-:

I am goody

:

01:02:01,843 --> 01:02:02,413

-:

close enough.

:

01:02:02,713 --> 01:02:03,398

-:

all the way.

:

01:02:03,408 --> 01:02:05,428

First kiss was not till college.

:

01:02:05,448 --> 01:02:07,108

I didn't date till college.

:

01:02:07,108 --> 01:02:07,748

Yeah, no.

:

01:02:08,208 --> 01:02:08,508

-:

I didn't,

:

01:02:08,618 --> 01:02:08,953

-:

:

01:02:09,108 --> 01:02:10,338

-:

a spin the bottle girl.

:

01:02:10,358 --> 01:02:11,468

I was exempt.

:

01:02:11,488 --> 01:02:14,368

I usually, like, bowed out of that game.

:

01:02:14,838 --> 01:02:18,198

But, yeah, if only you

guys knew this guy's name.

:

01:02:19,888 --> 01:02:21,118

No, it wasn't Patrick.

:

01:02:21,713 --> 01:02:22,023

-:

Good guess.

:

01:02:22,518 --> 01:02:24,098

-:

But saying his name would just

:

01:02:24,098 --> 01:02:27,623

make so many things make sense,

but I'll have to tell you after

:

01:02:27,923 --> 01:02:28,173

-:

:

01:02:28,173 --> 01:02:30,313

It's good.

:

01:02:30,363 --> 01:02:30,873

-:

Cover.

:

01:02:30,933 --> 01:02:32,723

That's how unique the name is.

:

01:02:32,808 --> 01:02:33,708

-:

yeah, yeah.

:

01:02:33,708 --> 01:02:34,244

It

:

01:02:34,273 --> 01:02:34,673

-:

:

01:02:34,743 --> 01:02:35,073

Okay.

:

01:02:35,073 --> 01:02:35,403

Well,

:

01:02:35,498 --> 01:02:35,798

-:

describe this

:

01:02:35,893 --> 01:02:36,253

-:

First Kiss.

:

01:02:36,553 --> 01:02:38,078

-:

because he didn't go, he

:

01:02:38,078 --> 01:02:39,958

didn't like use his name.

:

01:02:39,968 --> 01:02:44,148

His whole family called him

this like of rapper name.

:

01:02:44,428 --> 01:02:44,488

And

:

01:02:45,783 --> 01:02:46,303

-:

Yeah.

:

01:02:47,038 --> 01:02:49,268

-:

it's, yeah, it's on.

:

01:02:49,383 --> 01:02:49,558

Uh,

:

01:02:49,683 --> 01:02:49,793

-:

Thank you.

:

01:02:49,858 --> 01:02:51,198

-:

your first, first kiss

:

01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:56,823

-:

I feel like it's funny that I asked

:

01:02:56,823 --> 01:02:59,013

this question because I was more

curious about your guys's, but I

:

01:02:59,043 --> 01:03:00,643

feel like mine's not very exciting.

:

01:03:01,113 --> 01:03:01,983

Um, okay.

:

01:03:02,013 --> 01:03:07,103

I always did kind of want to play spin

the bottle, but nobody ever played it.

:

01:03:07,413 --> 01:03:11,263

Like where I grew up, like

I was never, ever, ever in a

:

01:03:11,263 --> 01:03:12,173

place where they played it.

:

01:03:12,173 --> 01:03:15,653

And like, I mean, I was a pretty

good kid, but I also just, like, I

:

01:03:15,653 --> 01:03:17,513

had friends who weren't good kids.

:

01:03:18,363 --> 01:03:18,753

-:

Yeah.

:

01:03:18,813 --> 01:03:19,223

Yeah.

:

01:03:19,283 --> 01:03:22,248

-:

But anyways, um, I believe it

:

01:03:22,248 --> 01:03:24,288

was, I was in eighth grade.

:

01:03:24,898 --> 01:03:28,498

So I feel like I was kind

of young when I look back.

:

01:03:28,568 --> 01:03:32,268

Um, and it was just like this

cute guy I was talking to who

:

01:03:32,268 --> 01:03:34,488

was actually in seventh grade.

:

01:03:34,528 --> 01:03:36,608

So I guess I have a

thing for younger boys.

:

01:03:36,608 --> 01:03:42,468

Cause Tracy, you're younger than me

as well, but he, uh, he walked me home

:

01:03:42,478 --> 01:03:44,678

from school and then just kissed me.

:

01:03:44,878 --> 01:03:48,078

In my neighborhood and then

we said goodbye and I walked

:

01:03:48,078 --> 01:03:49,648

all the way home after that.

:

01:03:51,358 --> 01:03:52,268

-:

and that was that.

:

01:03:52,633 --> 01:03:53,823

-:

And that was like the nothing

:

01:03:53,843 --> 01:03:54,853

followed suit after that.

:

01:03:54,863 --> 01:03:55,753

That was just it.

:

01:03:58,238 --> 01:03:59,908

-:

Uh, yeah, I think that was it.

:

01:03:59,908 --> 01:04:02,898

I mean, like we were just like texting

for, I mean, you're, you're in eighth

:

01:04:02,898 --> 01:04:05,608

grade, like you can't go anywhere.

:

01:04:05,738 --> 01:04:07,198

You can't drive.

:

01:04:07,228 --> 01:04:09,788

So like, what is a

relationship in middle school?

:

01:04:09,788 --> 01:04:10,178

You know?

:

01:04:10,178 --> 01:04:14,378

So I think we like, we texted

a lot and like, maybe like saw

:

01:04:14,378 --> 01:04:17,998

each other in the hallway, but

he walked me home that one time.

:

01:04:18,858 --> 01:04:20,308

He kissed me in the neighborhood.

:

01:04:20,388 --> 01:04:22,838

Then I walked like, he didn't

walk me all the way home.

:

01:04:22,838 --> 01:04:25,408

Like I walked home the rest of the

way and then it was like, cool.

:

01:04:25,518 --> 01:04:27,628

Well, we, we did that

and that was kind of it.

:

01:04:27,648 --> 01:04:27,898

So,

:

01:04:28,853 --> 01:04:29,693

-:

So magical.

:

01:04:30,508 --> 01:04:32,248

-:

so yeah, my first kiss with Trey

:

01:04:32,248 --> 01:04:36,878

was much more magical after we saw

a shooting star across the sky.

:

01:04:36,918 --> 01:04:37,278

So

:

01:04:37,608 --> 01:04:38,648

-:

How many dates did it

:

01:04:38,648 --> 01:04:39,328

take for you guys to kiss?

:

01:04:40,778 --> 01:04:47,578

-:

I, so we both like dated a lot of people

:

01:04:47,598 --> 01:04:55,213

before we met each other and we both

like had Uh, like kissing and like more

:

01:04:55,213 --> 01:04:59,383

like physical aspects to the relationship

before we dated a lot of people before

:

01:04:59,413 --> 01:05:03,683

like each other And so when we first met

and started talking about like how we

:

01:05:03,683 --> 01:05:07,643

felt about each other and everything We

like really wanted to set a foundation

:

01:05:07,643 --> 01:05:10,613

of friendship before we dated and I mean

That's part of the reason why I like

:

01:05:10,613 --> 01:05:13,443

was so crazy about him because i'm like,

oh my gosh This is like the first guy

:

01:05:13,453 --> 01:05:17,163

ever who's been like, I just want to be

your friend first Like I don't just want

:

01:05:17,163 --> 01:05:23,323

to kiss you Um, and so we were friends

You Slash kind of starting to date

:

01:05:23,383 --> 01:05:26,513

for about two months before we kissed.

:

01:05:26,933 --> 01:05:32,013

Um, so whether you call them dates or

not, I mean, we didn't officially call

:

01:05:32,013 --> 01:05:36,433

them dates because we said we weren't

going to date until whatever the day that

:

01:05:36,433 --> 01:05:41,763

we chose to date, but we were hanging

out us to getting food, sometimes going

:

01:05:41,773 --> 01:05:44,983

to the movies, like they were dates.

:

01:05:45,023 --> 01:05:46,213

So it was like two months,

:

01:05:47,533 --> 01:05:47,993

-:

Okay.

:

01:05:48,173 --> 01:05:48,803

Two months.

:

01:05:48,883 --> 01:05:49,103

Yeah.

:

01:05:49,103 --> 01:05:50,283

And Megan, yours was

:

01:05:51,103 --> 01:05:51,793

-:

Seven days.

:

01:05:52,563 --> 01:05:54,553

-:

It was like months, months.

:

01:05:54,693 --> 01:05:56,373

-:

like months, but like seven days.

:

01:05:57,243 --> 01:05:57,663

-:

Yeah.

:

01:05:59,133 --> 01:06:01,863

-:

seven days of like you being together.

:

01:06:01,943 --> 01:06:04,213

What about, CeCe, what

:

01:06:04,513 --> 01:06:06,828

-:

to Texas Roadhouse once during his

:

01:06:06,878 --> 01:06:11,188

trip in Alabama and then Disney

was with a mutual friend where I

:

01:06:11,188 --> 01:06:12,968

had no clue he was even for me.

:

01:06:13,008 --> 01:06:17,708

So it was like just a

very nuanced situation.

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And he had never dated

anyone before either.

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So I think that's why he

was like, is that good?

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about you and Patrick, what

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was your first kiss like?

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01:06:29,923 --> 01:06:31,473

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It was the second time I met him,

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which was also the second date.

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Cause we were, we were set up.

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Um,

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01:06:35,513 --> 01:06:35,613

-:

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so we had

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-:

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was like a day, it was a weekend date.

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but it was the first

night of the weekend day.

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And he also asked me to be his girlfriend

then the second time I met him.

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So it was like, it's just, I don't

know how much time do we have?

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01:06:56,048 --> 01:06:59,208

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I have like no, have like no time left,

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Megan's like, um

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kids are all up.

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01:07:01,283 --> 01:07:03,803

But, um, yeah, it was

the second, second day.

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Honestly, I probably would

have kissed him the first date.

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Not that I'm like loose lips over

here, but I mean, I probably would

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have, but I knew he would never,

he would have never done for it.

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I asked him, I was like, would

you have kissed me the first day?

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He's like, I mean, I wanted to,

but I would never have done that.

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I was like, Oh yeah.

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He's like, I'm a gentleman.

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What?

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01:07:23,813 --> 01:07:24,563

You would have kissed me?

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I'm like, yeah.

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Thousand percent!

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01:07:28,933 --> 01:07:30,913

-:

So I mean, I hate the saying, when you

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01:07:30,913 --> 01:07:32,893

know, you know, but it is kind of true.

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01:07:34,193 --> 01:07:35,493

-:

It is so true.

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01:07:35,503 --> 01:07:36,513

It is really true.

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01:07:36,593 --> 01:07:39,813

Um, and maybe one day we'll have

to talk about it, but I know

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01:07:39,813 --> 01:07:41,293

Meg, you got to get going, right?

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01:07:41,888 --> 01:07:43,428

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for the sake of Avery and his

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01:07:43,428 --> 01:07:45,188

grade in scuba class, yes.

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01:07:46,273 --> 01:07:46,833

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Oh my gosh.

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01:07:46,933 --> 01:07:47,393

-:

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01:07:47,723 --> 01:07:50,708

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Don't so many questions not enough time.

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01:07:51,008 --> 01:07:51,688

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We'll have to get back on

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01:07:51,688 --> 01:07:53,358

a national app sometime.

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01:07:53,863 --> 01:07:54,193

-:

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01:07:55,188 --> 01:07:55,468

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Scuba.

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01:07:56,468 --> 01:07:59,648

Yes, like he's getting his

scuba certif certification.

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01:08:00,778 --> 01:08:00,978

Yep,

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01:08:01,053 --> 01:08:01,143

-:

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01:08:01,178 --> 01:08:01,768

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has to take a

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01:08:02,003 --> 01:08:02,093

-:

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01:08:02,178 --> 01:08:04,498

-:

electives, he's like scuba.

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01:08:05,653 --> 01:08:06,303

-:

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01:08:06,363 --> 01:08:07,333

Well, I love it.

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01:08:07,393 --> 01:08:07,823

Okay.

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01:08:08,133 --> 01:08:10,323

Well, we'll have to do a part two later.

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01:08:10,343 --> 01:08:14,473

Cause I do want to get to marriage

and mental health and fun life

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01:08:14,473 --> 01:08:16,252

topics in career and advice.

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01:08:16,283 --> 01:08:19,693

You have a lot of other women, so we'll

have to circle back at some point, but.

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01:08:20,198 --> 01:08:22,587

Thanks for just pouring

your heart out today, girls.

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01:08:23,098 --> 01:08:23,618

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course.

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01:08:23,618 --> 01:08:24,917

It's so fun!

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01:08:25,153 --> 01:08:25,633

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Yeah,

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01:08:26,827 --> 01:08:27,468

-:

Next time we'll have to do it

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01:08:27,523 --> 01:08:27,813

-:

stealing

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01:08:27,898 --> 01:08:28,278

-:

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01:08:28,693 --> 01:08:29,303

-:

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01:08:31,288 --> 01:08:31,358

-:

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01:08:31,358 --> 01:08:31,680

Oh!

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01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:32,002

Oh!

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01:08:32,002 --> 01:08:32,325

Oh!

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01:08:32,325 --> 01:08:32,648

Oh!

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01:08:33,778 --> 01:08:34,268

-:

All right.

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01:08:34,417 --> 01:08:34,898

-:

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01:08:35,023 --> 01:08:37,653

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are the best and yeah, I needed this I

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01:08:37,653 --> 01:08:40,183

needed some just like adult convo today

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01:08:40,678 --> 01:08:41,028

-:

love that.

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01:08:41,053 --> 01:08:42,093

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I appreciate it

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01:08:43,198 --> 01:08:43,688

-:

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01:08:44,087 --> 01:08:44,538

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Of course.

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01:08:44,938 --> 01:08:45,718

All right, you guys.

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01:08:45,768 --> 01:08:46,638

We'll see you later.

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01:08:47,023 --> 01:08:47,957

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Thank you

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01:08:48,258 --> 01:08:48,877

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