62: If You're Not Convinced About Non-Toxic Living This One's For You

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Hey friends.

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Welcome back today.

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I'm here because we are full force diving

into one of my favorite topics right now.

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We are gonna talk all about toxins,

where you can spot them in your

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home, how you can lower your

toxin burden by leaning into clean

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living because this is important.

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And this is just gonna be a different

kind of episode that I've done

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in the past about clean living.

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I feel like in the past I've really

taken a, like first steps approach, which

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you'll still get here, but I am gonna

give you all the education here that

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I feel like I haven't fully dive in.

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Dive in.

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How do, how do you even say that Dove?

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That I feel like I haven't fully dove

into in the past, um, that I feel like

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I learned in the beginning steps of my

journey that really convicted me because.

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You need to know why

this is important, right?

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It's not just a trend.

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And at this point in time, I feel like

we spend a lot of time in our homes and

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we have a lot of products that we use.

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And I think in our consumeristic

culture in America, we are constantly

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pumped with advertising of what

products to have in your home.

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And so we're using more products now

than ever, I feel like that we ever have.

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And I.

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You're constantly being told what beauty

products to use, what to do on your

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hair, what to have in, what products

to use in your kitchen, or for cleaning

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or for your yard or whatever it is.

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We have so many products that are

marketed to us all the time, but what

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is never actually revealed to us in this

advertising and marketing is what is.

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In those products and how they were made

and how those ingredients could actually

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over time, quietly harm our health.

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And so we're starting to see

the effects of this today, which

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is why I think this movement is

gaining more and more traction.

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Um, and it's honestly, I think, a

really good thing and amazing that

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we're getting more information so we

can make better informed decisions.

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And so.

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I think the reason like it's gaining so

much traction right now is because we're

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seeing a lot of the effects of it today,

which that part is not amazing, and we

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see it with increased chronic illnesses.

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People are dealing with it everywhere,

increased inflammation, digestive and

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gut problems, hormone imbalances like

crazy, and women struggling with their

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cycle and their fertility and cancer

rates rising and toxins in our products

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is the only culprit of all things.

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Like we have a lot of work to do in

our, like health culture in America

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and food quality and all those things,

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but we are more exposed to toxins in our

products because of the regulations, the

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poor regulations that our country has.

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So I think it's important to talk about,

um, and I know that we are an all time

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high in some of these, uh, levels, like

infertility levels in cancer rates and

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all that kind of stuff in our country.

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And obviously that's really

just really not good.

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Um, and the fertility stuff

is really close to my heart.

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So I think it's important to talk

about, and today I just wanna talk,

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especially I think to the people, um,

obviously that are already serious

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about this journey and wanna learn

more, but especially I wanna talk to the

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people that are more skeptical of this.

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Like, maybe you're still not sure why

it's such a big deal, or you think it's

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all kind of bogus, or you think clean

living is a trend or maybe it's extreme.

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Um, because I think that.

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You know, I, I, I've been in a place

like that before where I think I was,

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I had healthy skepticism, um, which

is still good to have because I think

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that I, there was a time when I felt

like that too, where I'm like, uh,

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is this, like, I'm kind of skeptical

of like, what is going on here?

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Like, how come everything is bad?

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But I honestly think if you're coming

from that place as I was in the past,

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it comes from a lack of information.

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Um, and I think more information helps

us make better informed decisions.

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So hopefully this episode's gonna

give you so much information to

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help you make better decisions.

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Um, and you know, I get it.

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Like there were times in the

past where I thought, you know,

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this is a little too much.

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I don't know if this is true.

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And it actually just took me diving into

the education to change my mind to read.

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The studies to see the numbers, to

like actually learn what the names

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of ingredients are and what they do.

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Um, so that's what we're

gonna dive in today.

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Today we're gonna talk about common

hidden toxins in our homes, we're gonna

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talk a little bit about the history

of what is our country even doing to

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like, protect us from this and more of

like what has not been done, honestly.

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Um.

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As well as some practical ways to

start detoxing your space and some

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key ingredients to be aware of so that

you can have some autonomy when you're

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picking products and you feel confident

in spotting these ingredients and being

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like, okay, you know, I know that if I

see that I'm, I'm not gonna buy that.

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And you get to kind of make that

decision for yourself instead of

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feeling like, I don't know what

these mean and I'm just gonna buy it.

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Um, so.

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I'm gonna share some strategies

that you can use, uh, to kind of

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simplify this journey and not get too

overwhelmed in the process because

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ultimately caring for our homes and for

our bodies is an act of stewardship,

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and it shouldn't be crippling.

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Um, I think in this wellness space,

fear mongering can be a thing and people

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can really make you feel like, oh my

gosh, like I have to be doing this.

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And while I think it is important.

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For our health, just as

good nutrition is sleep.

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It's just part of healthy think and

health and supporting our bodies.

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So you get to take this information

and make the decision that you feel

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is best for you and your health.

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I like to look at it as an act of

stewardship, um, because it's caring

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for the body that God gave me and

honoring the body that God and me.

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And so it's an act of stewardship.

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It's an act for ourselves and families.

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Um, you know, if you have children

for your, your children that you were

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entrusted with and for our homes.

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So.

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Let's just dive in, you guys.

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Okay.

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Buckle up.

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We're jumping in.

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Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,

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mari-wagner_10_05-29-2025_133629: Okay.

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Before we get into the details, I feel

like it's important to share a bit of

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my story and kind of how I ended up here

because it's been a journey the past.

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Honestly like four or five years.

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Um, so we'll just start way back in 2020.

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What a monumental year

that affected us all.

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Um, back then, I was a senior

in college and I was really, I.

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Like my Instagram was kicking off, my

business was kicking off and somebody in

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the Catholic Instagram world reached out

to me to be a beauty counter consultant.

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Um, if you dunno what that is, it was a

claim beauty brand that was pretty big.

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Um, it shut down last spring, I think.

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I've heard stuff about them coming back,

but I'm not a hundred percent sure.

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Um, and so anyways, she reached out to

me and she talked about clean beauty

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and how empowering her role was as a.

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Clean beauty consultant to share

about clean makeup and skincare

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with women because it allowed them

to have products that essentially

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wouldn't har harm their bodies,

but still made them feel beautiful.

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In the end, I didn't end up joining

because honestly, I, I tried the

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products myself, but um, it just

wasn't what I was looking for.

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I didn't love them really.

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And so I just kind of

put the products aside.

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But the whole idea of clean

beauty still kind of intrigued me.

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And so I hadn't really heard

about it before and that just

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kind of like lingered in my brain.

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And I feel like that was kind

of like my gateway, if you will,

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to kind of start looking into

what is this whole like clean.

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You know, clean products mean

like, what do you mean my

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makeup is bad for me right now?

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Like, I just had never heard that before.

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So.

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Soon after that, I started listening to

another creator's podcast and I noticed

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that she was talking a lot about toxins

and clean eating and clean living, and it

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was this whole kind of like theme popping

up again of like, wow, we've grown up not.

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Knowing all this information about our

products, and now we're seeing the effects

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of it, and now people are talking and

researching them, and so this information

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is like kind of coming out more now.

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Um, and so she was, she was talking

about all this kind of stuff and

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I found myself intrigued again.

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In conjunction with that.

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She was also talking about her

fertility journey and how this was

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all part of her journey to support

her goal of becoming a mother.

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And at the time I wasn't even married yet.

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I was engaged.

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I was getting married in a couple

months, so I wasn't thinking about like,

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oh, I'm gonna get pregnant right now.

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And I never thought I would

have trouble getting pregnant.

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And so the whole fertility thing

like didn't really like matter that

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much to me at the time, but I just

found it intriguing that she was like

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sharing about that at the same time.

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So.

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Honestly, I spent I think like

a year, maybe even two, just

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absorbing this type of content,

like learning and taking it all in.

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It just really intrigued me and

everything I was learning was factual.

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Um, like based off evidence,

based off research, like.

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It was real.

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It wasn't like bogus, weird

claims that were being made.

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It was all backed up and I watched

documentaries on it and I bought

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guides and I like learned and I read

stuff and I listened to podcasts.

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And even though I was like taking

in all this information, I still

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didn't really take any action.

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And I think I didn't because

it seemed a bit daunting and

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intimidating to me at first, like.

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These women I was learning from,

spoke with so much knowledge and I was

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like, how do they know these things?

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Like how do they know so much?

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How did they get to learn so

much about these ingredients?

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And they, you know, said the words like

carcinogens and endocrine disruptors

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and phthalates and formaldehyde.

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And I was like, what do these.

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Words even mean like, oh my gosh, I

was so intimidated and I kind of felt

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like if I wasn't an expert then I

like couldn't actually lean into this.

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Um, and I think that kind of comes

from my type A, like all in type

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of person like personality, which.

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Can be a really great thing

sometimes, but sometimes I think

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it can hold me back from things.

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And so in this case, it kind of

made me approach clean living

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with an all or nothing mindset.

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Like, if I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna go

all in and I need to know everything and I

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need to swap everything at the same time.

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So.

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That was like not a great mindset because

basically what that did was make me

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do nothing for a year or two because I

never felt like I was an expert enough.

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I never felt like I knew enough to

be able to know what was actually

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good product, what was not.

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Um, and I wanted like

the top tier product.

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I didn't want the one that was

like greenwashed, where I was

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like, oh, I'm trying to make a

clean living decision, and then you

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just find out it's actually not.

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And so I was like, I

need to know everything.

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Finally, I just got out of that space,

and that was really until one of

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these clean living creators shared

about how you just need to take one

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small step to take the first step.

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You need to swap out one thing, and

then the next, and then the next, and

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then little by little it'll all add up.

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But if you wait to know everything

or if you wait to know what to like,

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what exactly to swap everything

for, then you're never gonna make.

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The next right step.

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And just like shopping for anything,

it takes time to kind of figure

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out like, what brand do I like,

what works well, what doesn't?

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Um, and so basically that was my

encouragement to be like, okay, I'm

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gonna shed all of this like pressure

that I'm putting on myself and this like.

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Overwhelm and intimidation, and

I'm just gonna start one by one.

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And if it's not like the

best product, that's fine.

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I am making an effort to do

something better for my family

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and that's a good thing.

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So I looked at what I had in my home

and I decided to swap out products

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that went directly on my body and

were absorbed by my skin first.

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My logic with that was like,

okay, these things affect my body.

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So the ones affecting it the

most are probably the ones

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that go on my body directly.

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So I personally started with skincare

and makeup as those were things

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that I was using every single day.

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Then I moved on to body wash

and haircare because I was

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also using that like every day.

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Then I moved on to lotion, you know,

and then hand soap and all the things.

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So once I realized, wow, there actually

are brands creating these products

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in a way that won't harm me, I.

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And they still work well.

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Like my old toxic brands, I was

bought in because I think at first,

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especially with my experience with

the first clean brand that I tried,

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the first Clean beauty makeup brand

and how I didn't like how it worked.

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I was kind of discouraged

and I was like, I.

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These products don't really work.

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Like the whole clean thing doesn't work.

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The whole natural products doesn't work,

but I think it just kind of takes trying.

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What brands work for you?

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What brands work for your home?

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What brands you actually

like, how they work?

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There are several brands and you don't

have to be stuck in the mindset of

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like, everything is bad around me and.

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If I don't use this, you know, tide

Soap, or Cascade Soap or uh, naked

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Palette, you know, eyeshadow palette

or Tart or whatever, then like, I'm

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not gonna have a product to use.

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No, that's not it.

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Like you just find the

brand that actually works.

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You try different brands just like you

did when you were first shopping for

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your makeup or, um, you know, household

products, and then you find the one

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that works for you and they'll find

you and you find the one that you like.

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So.

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Once I started actually trying brands

out and realizing that they can still

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work just as well, sometimes even

better than your conventional brands.

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I was bought in and I was like,

this can actually be easy.

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All you need to know is a few red

flag ingredients to get started

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and just start learning about what

brands you can actually trust.

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So I kept going.

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That was my motivation

and I kept learning.

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I kept swapping.

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Next was my laundry detergent, then

my dishwasher soap, then my dish

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soap, then my all purpose spray, and

I tried a few different brands until I

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found the one that I felt worked best.

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I think I tried like three

different laundry soaps that

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were clean and non-toxic before I

landed it on the one that I love.

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Truly free.

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Basically once that, I had a brand that

I love that I didn't think twice about

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and it, it didn't stress me out anymore.

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It didn't stress me out to be

like, oh my gosh, what can I use?

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I just had my brand and I just reordered

usually online and continued living life

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as usual, and now like swapping products

is not a point of overwhelm for me.

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And another thing to note here too

is that my motivation behind all this

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comes from just being someone that

cares about health in general, health

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and wellness, but also this journey was

spurred on by our own fertility journey

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and in struggling to conceive, um, in

that first year of marriage and now

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over three years of this journey, I.

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I wanted to learn how these toxins were

affecting my hormones and my fertility

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specifically, and that gave me even

more motivation to actually do something

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about it all and make changes in my life.

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So.

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That's kind of the groundwork.

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That's kind of my story of how I got

into it, and if you relate to it at

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all, I just wanna invite you to shift

your mindset about clean living.

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This isn't about stress or perfection.

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Okay?

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We're gonna get that out the window.

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It's about embracing.

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Truly the beautiful vocation God has

given us as caretakers and stewards

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of our homes and our bodies, of

our families, and of our children.

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It's about having autonomy and

ownership over what products we bring

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into our home and put on our bodies.

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We don't have to use the

conventional big brand names that

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have been around for forever.

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Sure, it's more convenient, maybe because

you know the name and it's easy to grab

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it at the store, but if you just learn.

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Where to buy the clean products.

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It's actually not that much

harder, and it's not that hard to

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buy it online when you run out.

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And if there's a couple, you know, if

there's a week or two where you're like,

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you don't have that product and you need

to fall on the like old one, that's fine.

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Like it's about also having grace

throughout the process and not

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letting the stress of needing

everything to be clean, like override.

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Your intention to just do

the next best thing for your

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family, so, so there's that.

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There's my story, my little pep talk.

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Now we are gonna dive into the

specifics and talk education because

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this is what really convinced me in

the beginning, and this is what I

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really needed to hear to be bought in.

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So I wanna share with you.

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Okay, so here's a fact that shocked

me when I first started learning about

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clean living and this is what sort of

started hooking me in this whole journey,

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and that is that the last major federal

law that the govern that governs the

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cosmetic and personal care industry in

e United States was passed in: 1938

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Yeah, lemme just repeat that.

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The last major law that governs the

cosmetic and personal care industry, AKA.

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The laws that protect us, make sure

that our products are safe in the

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cosmetic and personal care industry in

e United States was passed in: 1938

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That means it's been over 80

years since there has been any

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real update to how these products

are regulated for our safety.

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So, yeah.

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That doesn't make me feel very good

because think about how much has

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changed in the world since 1938.

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Like the products we have now are not the

products they used 80 years ago, and yet

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the laws protecting what we're putting on

our skin daily have not kept up one bit.

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So because of this, come, companies

can legally use thousands of

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ingredients in their products.

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Even if those ingredients are linked

to things like cancer, hormone

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disruption, infertility, allergies,

skin irritations, uh, chronic illnesses,

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et cetera and more, and plus the

cherry on top, they don't even have

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to fully disclose what they're using.

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One of the biggest loopholes

in this industry is the word.

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Fragrance, which we'll get

into a little bit later.

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Um, but the biggest loophole is the word

fragrance on an ingredient label, because

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that one word can legally hide hundreds

of different chemicals, which many have

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never been tested for long-term safety.

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So fragrance doesn't just mean

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What makes the product smell good,

they might be hiding a bunch of

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other ingredients in that so that

they don't have to disclose it.

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So that in itself, right there is a

hu was a huge motivator for me and

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I hope is a huge motivator for you.

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Now, here's another big one.

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What we put on our skin doesn't

just sit on the surface.

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Our skin is a living, breathing organ.

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It's the largest organ in our body, and

everything we put on our skin is absorbed

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through our skin and can enter our

bloodstream in literally like 30 seconds.

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So yes, that lotion, that makeup,

that body wash isn't something that

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we just lather on and then wash off.

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It becomes part of our like

internal environment in our body.

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And as women, we are constantly

coming into contact with stuff like

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this because the average woman uses

about 12 personal care products every

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day at least, which exposes her to

around 168 different chemicals daily.

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And that exposure is.

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Like it builds up over time.

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So just think about that.

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Like you don't think about that

when you're going about your day

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and you're brushing your teeth and

laying on your foundation and you're

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washing your hair and you're putting

lotion on, or you're using, um,

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shaving cream or perfume or whatever like.

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You use a lot of products every single

day, and if you just sit down and start

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to write them out, you can see them add up

and you realize that the average is around

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you realize.

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How often we're exposing ourself to this.

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So it's not about a single

product here or there.

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Essentially it's about the layers and

the years of exposure, layer upon layer.

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So using a certain lipstick one day

isn't gonna be much, but adding on the

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foundation, adding on the shampoo, adding

on the hairspray, the perfume, the lotion,

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all of it together throughout the day.

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Day after day is what adds up and makes

an impact and negative impact in our body.

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And what's even more disturbing is how

far behind the US is when it comes toban,

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these kind of toxic ingredients, the

European Union has banned or restricted

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over 1600 ingredients from cosmetics

because they've deemed them unsafe.

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Guess how many the

United States has banned?

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The United States has banned about 30.

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That's literally.

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I'm, I'm this, I'm not misspeaking.

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It is not a typo.

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You guys.

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1600 versus 30.

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Many of the harmful ingredients that

the US still legally uses in their

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products includes red flag ingredients

that I'm about to share with you.

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So this is one, if you haven't been

taking notes already, my goodness.

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Take out your notepad.

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This is gonna be a really helpful

list that I want you to write down

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and keep somewhere so that you can

start learning about these kind of

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ingredients and having that empowerment

and confidence and autonomy yourself.

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So let's talk about some

of these ingredients.

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Number one, so, so just so you know,

these are the ingredients that are still

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legally used in products in the us.

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Number one, parabens.

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Parabens are preservatives that have been

linked to hormone disruption and are often

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found in products like lotions, shampoos,

makeup, cleaning products, et cetera.

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Next, phthalates.

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They're commonly hidden under

the term fragrance, and they're

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linked to reproductive issues and

hormone interference, AKA hormone

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disruption, endocrine disruptors.

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Next fragrance.

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We talked about this a little bit.

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It's a catch all term that can legally

conceal hundreds of undisclosed

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chemicals, many of which have been

associated with allergies, hormone

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disruption, and even cancer.

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Next is talc.

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This is a product that's often used in

powders like powder makeup, and it can

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be contaminated with veto asbestos, which

is a known carcinogen, AKA causes cancer.

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Formaldehyde releasers.

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These are chemicals that slowly

release formaldehyde, which is a known

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human carcinogen yet again, and it's

used usually to preserve products.

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Next we have PPGs and pegs.

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So PPGs, gosh, I, these are words are

that are hard to, um, pronounce, polypro.

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Glycols, which are petroleum-based

compounds that are often used

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to like soften skin or as

like thickeners in products.

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They, and they have potential links

to skin irritation an organ toxicity.

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And then pegs, polyethylene Glycols

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they're used to create

creamy textures or as.

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Like basically help the product enter

into your skin even more, which means

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it can help other potentially harmful

ingredients also be absorbed more

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deeply into your skin and your body.

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And the other thing with pegs and PPGs.

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Is that they can carry

carcinogenic contaminants if

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they're not properly purified.

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So basically they just increase your

exposure to carcinogen and other

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harmful substances through the enhanced

absorption that they offer a product.

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These ingredients, all the ones that

I listed, are in your shampoo, in

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your body wash, in your toothpaste,

in your deodorant, in your makeup,

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in your skincare, even in baby

products, which is just so messed up.

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Um.

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And this is what, like I feel like

our society is just not aware of.

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We just have no, like not until now

have we really had any education

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of these types of ingredients

and what they do in our bodies.

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And I think that we just assume that

bodies that are, that products that

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are being made are just good for us.

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Especially when the marketing

is geared towards that.

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You know, secret dove,

pantene, like it's all like.

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Beautiful and healthy, you know,

to have healthy hair and good

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skin and all this kind of stuff.

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And the reality is that it, it's

not contributing to our health.

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It's truly harming our health,

and we're seeing it now.

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We're living in a time where

chronic illness, hormone imbalances,

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fertility issues, they're all rising.

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And while there are many contributing

factors, we have to start

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acknowledging that the products

we use on our bodies every single

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day might be part of the equation.

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I.

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So, let me say this,

it's, it's not about fear.

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It's about awareness.

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It's about having the confidence to

learn these things, to be able to

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steward your body and your home well.

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And that first comes with education and

awareness, which is why I'm so glad you

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are even listening to this episode 'cause

this is an incredible step to take.

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And as women, as mothers, as.

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Daughters of God, we have the right

to know what's going into and onto our

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bodies, and we deserve better than the

outdated laws and hidden ingredients

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that we are currently experiencing.

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And it is possible to do better,

which is, which is why we're

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: 00:25:53

even having this conversation.

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I know so far it's been kind of like

doomsday, but like I'm gonna teach

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you as I have been what to look

for and how to turn it all around.

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So I'll just leave you with this thought.

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Basically, just because a product is on

a store shelf, it doesn't mean it's safe.

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That's the bottom line.

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We have to learn.

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We have to learn to be skeptical.

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And just because something is common

doesn't mean it's good for us.

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And just because it's packaged

with a green and white organic

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look, it doesn't mean it's healthy.

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And this is basically what I've learned

over the past four years of researching

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and learning in this, in this field.

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So.

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All like to say, we don't have to

live in fear, but we do have to be

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: 00:26:31

informed and we have the right to be

informed because it's our bodies and

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: 00:26:34

our health that is jeopardized here.

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And I think it's, it's also just easy

to kind of hear all this and kind of

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shut down like I did at first and just

be like, oh my gosh, it's too much.

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Everything is bad.

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But what I'm encouraging you to do

is just keep listening, lean in.

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And just start learning some basic

first steps so that you can gain that

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confidence to swap out your products.

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I think it's also just easy to stop

at the personal care products we use,

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because that's what goes on our body.

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But once you've kind of conquered those,

there are also some common household

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items that have toxic ingredients that

can be silently impacting your health.

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So I do also wanna share what those

toxins are that we can find in our homes.

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And why they matter, so

that you can be aware.

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And if you feel ready to take

that step, you can start swapping

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those things out as well.

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okay, so first up, we've

got non-stick cookware.

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Many of us, I think, grew up using

non-stick pans because while they're just

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so convenient, but traditional non-stick

cookware often contains PFOA, which is

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: 00:27:36

a chemical that's a known carcinogen and

Teflon, and when you're using them, when

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these pans get scratched or overheated.

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: 00:27:44

They release these toxic fumes and they

also can start scraping off that like

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: 00:27:51

non-stick layer and you start ingesting

that and eating that with your food,

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which can cause harm obviously to our

bodies, and they've been found to be

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linked to cancer causing ingredients.

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So the health impact here,

it's a carcinogen risk.

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It's an endocrine disruptor and can even

cause a lung irritation in some people.

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Um, which is just, I think if

you're experiencing that, that's

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: 00:28:19

probably a more obvious symptom

that you're experiencing right away.

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Um, so the better choice would be to

switch to stainless steel or cast iron

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: 00:28:27

or ceramic cookware 'cause they're

safer, they're longer lasting, honestly,

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and they still cook really well.

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Next is plastic cutting boards.

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A plastic cutting boards may seem

harmless, and I mean, I grew up using

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: 00:28:40

them all the time, but now we've learned

that they can release micro microplastics

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into your food as they get worn down.

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: 00:28:47

So as you cut your vegetables,

your meat, all this kind of stuff,

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: 00:28:51

the tiny plastic particles that

are coming off of the board.

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: 00:28:54

Get mixed into your food and

can be ingested without you

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: 00:28:57

even realizing it and over.

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I mean, I think at first it sounds stupid.

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It's like it's just a tiny piece of

plastic, but over time, the more you

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use it, the more that plastic adds up.

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And I actually saw a video on

Instagram once of somebody explaining,

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and the average American's weekly

microplastic, um, exposure or like

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intake was equivalent to a credit card.

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It's like you're eating

a credit card a week.

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Maybe it was per month.

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I actually think it was per week.

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: 00:29:25

Either way, that's like

extremely concerning.

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Whether you're eating a credit card

a week or per month, you shouldn't

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be eating a credit card at all.

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Can we all agree on that?

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Yes.

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So that's why the microplastics

matter and many microplastics.

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Many plastics in general can contain

BPA or thalates, which are endocrine

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: 00:29:43

disruptors, um, which you don't

affect your hormone balance, and they

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: 00:29:46

can even affect your brain health.

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: 00:29:48

So health impact of plastic cutting

boards, hormone disruption, potential

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: 00:29:52

neurotoxicity and microplastic ingestion.

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: 00:29:55

So let's swap those out for wooden

cutting boards, solid wood cutting

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boards, or stainless steel cutting

boards or glass cutting boards.

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: 00:30:03

Um.

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: 00:30:05

I use wooden cutting boards.

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: 00:30:06

I think they're beautiful.

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: 00:30:07

I, I like 'em.

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: 00:30:09

They make me feel a lot better,

obviously, and don't shed plastics okay.

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: 00:30:13

Next we have synthetic fragrances.

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We are exposed to these all

the time, whether it's your air

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: 00:30:19

fresheners, your candles, your

plugins, your cleaning products.

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: 00:30:24

Many of these products use synthetic

fragrances, which we learned earlier is.

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: 00:30:31

A top red flag ingredient to look for.

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: 00:30:33

They often contain phthalates, which

are known endocrine disruptors.

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: 00:30:37

They are linked to reproductive issues.

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: 00:30:39

They can also emit formaldehyde, which

is a carcinogen, and it can trigger

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: 00:30:44

respiratory problems like asthma.

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: 00:30:47

And I think a lot of people don't even

realize these are impacting their health.

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: 00:30:50

People complain about headaches all the

time, or allergies or asthma problems.

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: 00:30:55

All the time, and you don't even

realize it can be linked to the

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: 00:30:58

candles in your house or the air

freshener or the perfume you're using.

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: 00:31:02

So the health impact here, hormone

disruption, carcinogen exposure, and

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: 00:31:06

breathing difficulties and allergies.

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: 00:31:09

Better choices we can use are pure

essential oils or bees, sweat candles,

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: 00:31:13

or simmering natural ingredients on your

soap top, like simmon sticks or citrus

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: 00:31:19

peels, or just finding non-toxic candles.

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: 00:31:22

I love a candle just as

much as an next girl.

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: 00:31:25

So it's about finding the brands

that are non-toxic, that are made

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: 00:31:29

with the wax that is okay to use, and

the fragrances that are not harmful.

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: 00:31:35

Next is laundry detergents

and dryer sheets.

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: 00:31:38

Another super mainstream

common product we are all using

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: 00:31:43

that actually can be harmful.

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: 00:31:45

Many mainstream laundry detergents

and dryer sheets contain chemicals

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: 00:31:48

that irritate the skin, the lungs,

and many fragrances in these products,

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: 00:31:53

as we know can disrupt our hormones.

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: 00:31:55

Plus some of the ingredients

actually have been linked to

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: 00:31:57

neurotoxic effects, um, which can be.

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: 00:32:01

Concerning, obviously for children

that are in a developmental stage.

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: 00:32:04

Um, so the health impact here, obviously

skin irritation, this is common

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: 00:32:09

for a lot of people and people just

wonder why, like, they just wonder

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: 00:32:12

like, oh, maybe my skin's sensitive.

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: 00:32:13

It's like, well, yeah, your skin

is sensitive to harsh products

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: 00:32:17

that are harsh ingredients that

are used in the laundry detergents.

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: 00:32:20

So health impact, skin irritation,

respiratory issues, hormone disruption.

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: 00:32:25

Better choice all around is to opt for

a natural non-toxic laundry detergent.

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: 00:32:32

Um, there are some that you

can still get that smell great.

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: 00:32:36

Most of them are fragrance free,

which is super safe as well.

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: 00:32:40

Um, and I mean, at the end of this

episode, I'll give you the information of

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: 00:32:46

where I like to buy all these different

types of products so that you know

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: 00:32:49

exactly where to shop from, but basically.

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: 00:32:52

Throw away your tide is,

is the conclusion here.

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: 00:32:56

Next we have conventional

cleaning products.

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: 00:32:59

I think this is also an important

one to add 'cause these are products

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: 00:33:01

we use every day in our home.

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: 00:33:02

Like all purpose cleaners, disinfectants,

you know, bleach, uh, dishwasher,

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: 00:33:08

soap, all that kind of stuff.

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: 00:33:09

They all contain harsh chemicals

that can cause asthma, irritation,

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: 00:33:14

disrupting hormones and disrupting

your reproductive health over

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: 00:33:18

time, disrupting your gut lining.

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: 00:33:20

Um.

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: 00:33:21

Just not great effects.

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: 00:33:23

Um, there's a study that recently

came out, actually, I don't know what

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: 00:33:26

date it was, but I found out about

it recently where your traditional,

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: 00:33:30

like conventional, um, dish washer

soap can actually cause holes, like

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: 00:33:36

burn holes through your gut lining.

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: 00:33:39

Um, and I just know so many people that

struggle with gut issues, leaky gut,

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: 00:33:44

and I'm not saying this is the sole,

like perpetrator, but if we all use.

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: 00:33:50

Conventional dish soap and studies are

showing that it's causing this, these

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: 00:33:56

like burning holes in your stomach or

can do that, then I mean, there's a

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: 00:33:59

correlation there, you know, and we just

don't realize it because these are things

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: 00:34:02

that are not being pointed to, or they

haven't been pointed to in the past.

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: 00:34:05

And so we just think that these

symptoms are normal or it's always

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: 00:34:08

just was just born that way, or this

is just my problem, but actually

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our products are affecting that.

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So.

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Better choices to use here

are trusted brands that use

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ingredients that are not harmful.

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Um, I like truly freeze,

I like branch basics.

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: 00:34:26

Okay.

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: 00:34:26

That was a lot.

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: 00:34:27

I know this can feel overwhelming

and I don't wanna add more because

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I know I've already like thrown

so much information at you, which

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: 00:34:33

you might be super pumped about.

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: 00:34:35

And if you are, then you are

like me because I like learning

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: 00:34:39

about all this kind of stuff.

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: 00:34:41

Um, but here's the good news.

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Even though this can feel like a lot,

the good news is that detoxing your

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: 00:34:45

home doesn't have to happen all at once.

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: 00:34:48

Just like I said before, starting with

small, doable swaps is what is going

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to actually help you make progress.

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: 00:34:55

And you also have to think about what

fits your budget and what fits your life.

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: 00:34:58

Style.

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: 00:34:59

I know that clean products can be

priced higher than your conventional

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: 00:35:03

products, and we intentionally like moved

things around in our budget so we could

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: 00:35:08

prioritize the, like, cleanest type of

food that we can and the cleanest type

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: 00:35:13

of in of, uh, household products and

personal care products that we could.

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So for us, it was important

enough and a priority enough to

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move things around in our budget.

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: 00:35:22

Um.

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So start with small, doable swaps

and things that we talked about

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are swapping out your non-stick pan

for cast iron or stainless steel.

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: 00:35:31

Replacing one cleaning product at

a time with a better alternative.

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: 00:35:34

I would start with your laundry detergent

first and then your dishwasher soap.

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: 00:35:38

Um, make sure that you're avoiding

things that have fragrance in it and

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parabens pegs, PPGs, um, phthalates.

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: 00:35:47

Swap out your shampoo or makeup or

skincare, or just start thinking

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about the things that go on your body.

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: 00:35:53

If you are somebody that washes your

face every day, you're like, okay,

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let me look for a non-toxic face wash.

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: 00:35:58

If you like to wear makeup every day,

let me find a non-toxic foundation.

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: 00:36:02

Um, or a non-toxic shampoo or

non-toxic lotion, all that kind of

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: 00:36:06

stuff that you put on your body.

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Start.

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Start one by one and

start swapping those out.

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And in the end, just

remember, it's about progress.

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One step at a time, not perfection.

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: 00:36:16

And the reality is we're never gonna

be perfect, and it's impossible

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: 00:36:20

to live a fully non-toxic life.

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: 00:36:22

And that's not the goal.

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: 00:36:24

The goal is to lower our toxin

burdens to support our body's

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: 00:36:27

health and hormones and fertility.

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: 00:36:30

It's not about eliminating.

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Everything that could harm us because

we live in a fallen world and we will

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: 00:36:36

not be perfect until we get to heaven.

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: 00:36:39

So each step is just taking a step in the

right direction and just doing something

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good for you and your family's health.

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: 00:36:46

And just remember that in caring

for the temple that God gave us our

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: 00:36:50

bodies, we participate in his work.

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: 00:36:53

Of loving and healing our bodies and every

small act, every choice we make to make a

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healthier home and avoid toxins is a way

of saying thank you Lord for this body.

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: 00:37:03

Thank you Lord for this life.

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: 00:37:04

Thank you Lord for these precious

children that you've entrusted to me.

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: 00:37:07

Um, I'm gonna do my best

to steward them well.

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: 00:37:10

And I just wanna give a caveat here

too, if this is something you're

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not doing, it doesn't make you a bad

Christian, so don't take what I just

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said as a, as a way of being like,

oh wow, if I'm not leaning into clean

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: 00:37:21

living, then I'm a bad Christian.

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: 00:37:22

No.

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: 00:37:23

It's just a way that we can steward

our bodies well and honor the

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: 00:37:27

gift of our life and our bodies.

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: 00:37:28

And I mean.

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: 00:37:29

I would argue it's a really good

thing to do as a Christian, and I

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: 00:37:33

think it makes all the more sense

to do as a Christian because we

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: 00:37:36

care about caring for our bodies.

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: 00:37:38

But if you don't, it doesn't

mean you're a bad Christian.

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: 00:37:40

The other thing to say, 'cause I feel

like you have to say this whenever you

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: 00:37:43

give advice like this, is that none

of this is medical advice, and I'm not

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: 00:37:47

liable for any of your personal choices.

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: 00:37:51

If you have any questions or doubts,

you can contact your provider

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: 00:37:54

and make decisions yourself.

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: 00:37:57

Okay.

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: 00:37:58

I've given you a lot and you

may be ready to like start

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: 00:38:02

taking steps and taking actions.

688

: 00:38:04

So if you're feeling inspired, but maybe

you're not sure exactly where to start,

689

: 00:38:07

I wanna invite you to check out a few

resources that I have on my website.

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: 00:38:12

I have a Red Flag ingredients

label guide that lists ingredients

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: 00:38:15

to watch for that you could just

have as a little cheat sheet.

692

: 00:38:18

I have a toxic swaps guide that helps

you start to swap your first five swaps.

693

: 00:38:22

And then I have some brand new

clean guides that just dropped.

694

: 00:38:24

So all these things I'm gonna link

in the show note just in case you

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: 00:38:27

wanna find 'em on Instagram as well.

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: 00:38:28

I believe that if you DM me or if

you reply to my story with the word

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: 00:38:33

guide, then you'll be able to get my

Clean Living Guides that just dropped.

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: 00:38:37

I wait to tell you guys about these.

699

: 00:38:39

I just launched these this

week and they are incredible.

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: 00:38:44

I have teamed up with my friend Kris

and Mama to blend her expertise,

701

: 00:38:47

HOK and Clean living with my passion

for space and as well as my passion

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: 00:38:51

for Christ Christ-centered Living.

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: 00:38:53

To bring you these guides.

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: 00:38:54

'cause like I said, I feel like

this is a part of how I am looking

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: 00:38:58

at clean living as stewardship.

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: 00:38:59

I think it's, it's part of my

Christ-centered living journey.

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: 00:39:02

And I think that as Christians, like

we should be honoring our bodies in our

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: 00:39:06

homes and, um, our families as as we can.

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: 00:39:09

And so, like I said, with more

knowledge, we can make better choices.

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: 00:39:13

Um, and together, Kirsten and I

have literally like nine years

711

: 00:39:16

of experience in researching and

learning, um, what brands are actually.

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: 00:39:21

Good for you.

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: 00:39:22

What brands are not, what

brands are greenwashing.

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: 00:39:24

Basically these guides are

here to help you do this.

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: 00:39:28

And if you wanna hear more

from Christian, you can go back

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: 00:39:31

to episode 20 of my podcast.

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: 00:39:34

We recorded an episode called

Small Steps to Living Toxin Free.

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: 00:39:37

So another great episode to start

with that we'll teach you even more,

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: 00:39:41

um, shield because she struggled with

a really difficult and for years.

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: 00:39:46

Um, she tried to figure out what's

going on and through clean living and

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: 00:39:51

lifestyle changes, she was actually

able to be healed from her illness and

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: 00:39:55

she has not had a flare up in years.

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: 00:39:57

Um, and she attested to really clearing

her home, her body and lifestyle

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: 00:40:02

free of toxins, which is crazy.

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: 00:40:04

Just how much that can affect

us and our immune systems, um,

726

: 00:40:08

and cause inflammation and such.

727

: 00:40:09

She has these guides and she collaborated

with me to bring them to my audience.

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: 00:40:13

I added content to them each to kind

of add this Christ-centered lens to

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: 00:40:17

approach clean living in these three

different areas of the guides, which is

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: 00:40:21

a home guide, a uh, clean beauty guide,

which is just for like personal care

731

: 00:40:25

products and then a baby registry guide.

732

: 00:40:27

Um, so building a toxin

free baby registry.

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: 00:40:30

And these guides are packed with

information and they will view.

734

: 00:40:34

After years of research, I'm telling

you they teach you what ingredients to

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: 00:40:38

avoid, what to look for, and what actual

product recommendations with actual links

736

: 00:40:44

and brand discount, um, for every single

product category that you can imagine.

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: 00:40:49

There's all of that in the three guides.

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: 00:40:52

Um, like I said, there's a clean home

one, a clean beauty and clean baby.

739

: 00:40:56

So clean home is your guide to

creating and non talk in your home,

740

: 00:41:00

so you learn to identify what kind

of materials or toxins can commonly

741

: 00:41:04

be for and how to avoid them.

742

: 00:41:06

has over 80 categories of toxin-free

items recommendations for your kitchen,

743

: 00:41:09

your living room, your bathroom, your

bedroom, your technology, um, and so

744

: 00:41:13

much more, which is super helpful.

745

: 00:41:15

Uh, next we have the Clean Beauty,

and this guide is to help you

746

: 00:41:19

choose personal care products.

747

: 00:41:21

So you'll find the breakdown for

what ingredients to avoid again,

748

: 00:41:25

Plus product recommendations to

help you choose products that are

749

: 00:41:28

actually safe and actually work.

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: 00:41:30

'cause I think that's the key here.

751

: 00:41:31

So that you can build a safe personal

care routine, a daily beauty routine that

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: 00:41:35

you can actually trust, feel good about.

753

: 00:41:37

And then we have the Clean Baby

Guide, and this is the Ultimate

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: 00:41:41

Guide to Toxin Free Baby Registry.

755

: 00:41:43

So you can learn how to choose products

that protect your little wealth.

756

: 00:41:46

It's laid out in a way that you can

easily make your baby registry based

757

: 00:41:50

off the way that it's laid out.

758

: 00:41:52

Um, so I know Mamas will love this one.

759

: 00:41:54

We're recreating their registries,

um, so they can still get all those

760

: 00:41:57

incredible products that you need

for when baby comes, but they're

761

: 00:42:01

actually clean and safe for your baby.

762

: 00:42:02

And these are collaborative guides, so

they are one of Organ Mama's guides.

763

: 00:42:07

Uh, we just brought them together

to bring 'em to immunity.

764

: 00:42:10

And I added that faith-based

content at the beginning.

765

: 00:42:12

For example, the baby one has

prayers for your pregnancy and

766

: 00:42:16

Patron Saints of expectant mothers

for you to ask their intercession

767

: 00:42:20

for throughout your pregnancy.

768

: 00:42:22

Um, for the home guide, there are

scripture verses to pray over your home.

769

: 00:42:27

And for the Clean Beauty Guide, I

believe it's, um, a couple pages

770

: 00:42:30

of content of just my perspective

of looking at clean living through

771

: 00:42:34

those of a Christ-centered life.

772

: 00:42:37

They're incredible.

773

: 00:42:38

I swear you guys, these are the

guides that I literally wish I had

774

: 00:42:41

in the beginning and they would be

years of research and experience.

775

: 00:42:45

Um, and they're for you.

776

: 00:42:48

Like clearly, if you're still listening,

that means that these guides are for you.

777

: 00:42:52

Um, so I'm just really proud of you for

pressing on, for wanting to learn more,

778

: 00:42:57

for wanting to educate yourself and just

for being here and hearing this all out.

779

: 00:43:00

So make sure you check out the website,

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: 00:43:03

marie wagner.co/clean-living,

781

: 00:43:07

that was kind of like the main clean

living landing page where you check

782

: 00:43:10

'em all out and then you can click

into each one individually to learn

783

: 00:43:13

more about each individual guy.

784

: 00:43:15

Um, but the best thing is that there

is an incredible bundle deal where

785

: 00:43:18

you can get three for the price of.

786

: 00:43:20

So honestly, interested in multiple,

I get the bundle deal because like.

787

: 00:43:24

Why would you just buy one when you can

get literally three for the price of two?

788

: 00:43:28

So that's, that's all I have about that.

789

: 00:43:31

Um, if you feel like this episode

had helped you and encouraged you.

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: 00:43:36

Please leave a review and please

share with them until you feel

791

: 00:43:39

like, Ooh, they need to know this,

they need to learn more about this.

792

: 00:43:42

Or if your husband is like not on board

with your clean living choices and

793

: 00:43:46

you're like, oh my gosh, babe, just

like get with the pro this episode.

794

: 00:43:49

Like maybe he just some factual

information to kind of like,

795

: 00:43:52

be convinced men are logical

creatures, so send this to him.

796

: 00:43:55

Um, but all in all, I hope it will.

797

: 00:43:57

And I know it was a little bit of a

long one of me just talking at you about

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: 00:44:02

this kind of really nerdy topic, so.

799

: 00:44:04

Thanks for listening.

800

: 00:44:05

Hope you enjoyed.

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: 00:44:06

Hope it was helpful.

802

: 00:44:06

And until next time you guys,

God bless you and your homes.

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: 00:44:10

Bye.